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Post by sharky on Apr 6, 2019 12:11:05 GMT
FFS
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 12:11:31 GMT
Another absolute joke of a goal. Leistner deciding to knock it to Freeman drifting back, Freeman miss-hits and plays Norwich through for an easy goal. Hard enough without us gifting bloody goals. Suicidal football.
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Post by harr on Apr 6, 2019 12:13:45 GMT
It’s a Norwich training session against boys and a defence that’s one of the worst at QPR in a decade and Eustace can do one as well. Fodderrrrrrrr
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Post by Lonegunmen on Apr 6, 2019 12:15:37 GMT
Insert "Benny Hill theme music" here
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Post by harr on Apr 6, 2019 12:16:32 GMT
I disagree Bow, Eustace could well have easily got these guys fired up a little, we see it all the time after a Manager change. They look as flat as pancakes.
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Post by harr on Apr 6, 2019 12:18:17 GMT
Will it be less than 7 ?
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 12:18:57 GMT
I disagree Bow, Eustace could well have easily got these guys fired up a little, we see it all the time after a Manager change. They look as flat as pancakes. Not saying he's any good or not culpable but if you think a caretaker manager was going to change a team on a run like this against team like Norwich then I don't know, really. Unless you think we are one change away from this team putting in a powerful performance. Also completely disagree about the manager bounce. When have we last seen that at QPR, let alone from a caretaker?
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Post by nomar on Apr 6, 2019 12:22:13 GMT
Will it be less than 7 ? I doubt it They may take pity on us after their 6th.
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Post by sharky on Apr 6, 2019 12:23:07 GMT
HT 3-0 QPR. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to the final score? 8-1 for me
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Post by Lonegunmen on Apr 6, 2019 12:23:14 GMT
phew, half time.
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 12:25:52 GMT
HT 3-0 QPR. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to the final score? 8-1 for me Five I reckon. They've got big matches coming up, maybe they'll just shut it down in the end.
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Post by harr on Apr 6, 2019 12:41:13 GMT
I disagree Bow, Eustace could well have easily got these guys fired up a little, we see it all the time after a Manager change. They look as flat as pancakes. Not saying he's any good or not culpable but if you think a caretaker manager was going to change a team on a run like this against team like Norwich then I don't know, really. Unless you think we are one change away from this team putting in a powerful performance. Also completely disagree about the manager bounce. When have we last seen that at QPR, let alone from a caretaker? I recall Bircham getting one against WBA, admittedly a while back were unlucky not to win. Also When Warnock stepped back in for a month, made us hard to beat straight away, weren’t pretty but effective. We are as open as plane in the sky here, hard to watch such a shambles. Anyhow won’t go on, just peeved by this crap.
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 13:01:38 GMT
Buendia, cheeky prick claiming Scowen dived. Deserved red.
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Post by sharky on Apr 6, 2019 13:03:02 GMT
They are down to 10 men so I'll change my prediction from 8-1 to 5-1!
No really a much better display so far in the second half!
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Post by Marc on Apr 6, 2019 13:04:13 GMT
Buendia, cheeky prick claiming Scowen dived. Deserved red. Awful challenge, definitely a red. Doubt it'll make any difference to the result though.
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 13:08:29 GMT
Buendia, cheeky prick claiming Scowen dived. Deserved red. Awful challenge, definitely a red. Doubt it'll make any difference to the result though. Definitely, shameful. And agree, they were hard enough to break through as it was, let alone with a cushion to fall back on.
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Post by sharky on Apr 6, 2019 13:15:21 GMT
Well that's 4
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 13:15:23 GMT
You are your timing 75...
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Post by harr on Apr 6, 2019 13:16:07 GMT
Men v Boys
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Post by Lonegunmen on Apr 6, 2019 13:16:19 GMT
Bugger, that's screwed up my score prediction, now 4-0
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 13:18:48 GMT
The performance today implies to me that the club have lost the dressing room by sacking their manager who despite the terrible run of results was still held in some regard by many of the players. That feels a bit of reach to me. As you say, no one expected us to get anything from today but we've been crap for almost the whole of 2019, I don't think this game with a near-identically poor performance can imply that.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Apr 6, 2019 13:26:02 GMT
Should I punish myself when I get home and watch it or just delete it?
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Post by harr on Apr 6, 2019 13:26:48 GMT
Thank heavens the pain has finished. On another day could easily have been six or seven. Pretty gutless display under the circumstances, specially first 45.
Didn’t really expect a win but expected more than that from QPR
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Post by harr on Apr 6, 2019 13:27:02 GMT
Should I punish myself when I get home and watch it or just delete it? DELETE
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 13:27:23 GMT
Should I punish myself when I get home and watch it or just delete it? Wouldn't put yourself through it to be honest. Nothing you wouldn't have seen before.
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Post by harr on Apr 6, 2019 13:31:59 GMT
That feels a bit of reach to me. As you say, no one expected us to get anything from today but we've been crap for almost the whole of 2019, I don't think this game with a near-identically poor performance can imply that. How about this for reach then 1. we should have got ourselves knocked out in the third round of the FA cup. Up to then we doing ok but then faced cup games, replays too many games squeezed into a short period with a small squad with injuries. At the moment I would swap our cup wins for league wins and 50 points.
2. How many points have we dropped since Christmas due to injury time goals both at the end of the game and just before half time? - Then next question is why? - Unfit or lack of concentration or nerves/pressure mounting because of results or just playing crap.
SM should have gone after Stoke imo and we should have got someone in before Rotherham.It was 7 points from 39 then. New Manager would have had two reasonable games at Loftus Road to pick up points or a win. Get rid of him the game before we play Norwich just sums up our owners.
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 13:36:56 GMT
That feels a bit of reach to me. As you say, no one expected us to get anything from today but we've been crap for almost the whole of 2019, I don't think this game with a near-identically poor performance can imply that. How about this for reach then 1. we should have got ourselves knocked out in the third round of the FA cup. Up to then we doing ok but then faced cup games, replays too many games squeezed into a short period with a small squad with injuries. At the moment I would swap our cup wins for league wins and 50 points.
2. How many points have we dropped since Christmas due to injury time goals both at the end of the game and just before half time? - Then next question is why? - Unfit or lack of concentration or nerves/pressure mounting because of results or just playing crap.
I mean that's a different thing entirely. Was just saying that if you've seen us play awful for about 3 months, sack a manager and have another awful game, I don't think that implies very much. On the cup, I wouldn't have sacrificed it simply because I enjoyed us having a little cup run and injected a bit of extra excitement going to matches. All hypothetical really, by the same token if we hadn't sent those players on loan we could have rotated more. I think what's more to do with it is that while Holloway made wholesale changes seemingly regardless of performance, McClaren had his preferred eleven and flogged our core players to death when they needed a rest. Freeman and Eze in particular suffered from that. I wouldn't swap the cup games, one because frankly if you can't enjoy winning a cup game then why bother going and two, there's as much evidence about cup runs galvanizing a team and building momentum as there is for it harming them. We've been crying out for us take cups seriously here for years - I don't look at this group of players and think 'you subtract two cup games and it's a totally different season'. I don't know about the why's of late goals and just before half time. Concentration seems the most likely. But again, that was a documented problem for ages - I remember LFW painstakingly trotting out the stats on it for last season too. Which was a season where we rotated and changed our lineup more than this year, no cup run, without the four loans etc. Just like us being broadly crap away from home for years, sadly.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 6, 2019 13:45:17 GMT
Pretty hard to watch and I think we all just wanted it to end without a cricket score. But.....................Norwich are really good and playing full of confidence. Had we won, it would have been a big shock. I don't think that the players were not trying, but we were poorer than I thought we would be. The setup was strange. Leistner left on the bench was an odd one. Bidwell and Cameron's injuries dictated the changes - it looked like BOS was going to come on at half time, but he had to wait until the last 10 minutes. Norwich did look a lot fitter than we did. Wells has a groin strain and so has not trained all week. Much has been made of how we have suffered through the injuries to Hamed, Cameron and Rangel. Hamed has been a waste of space and today an unfit Wells was preferred to him. Cameron was bypassed throughout and we looked better when Scowen came on. Rangel looked so slow, although is our only option at Left Back for Wednesday with Bidwell out. Eze was dealt with efficiently by Norwich and he will need to learn from the experience. Freeman had one of his poorest games. But our confidence is low - theirs was sky high. As for the timing of the sacking, I think that we would have had a similar result with Shteve and then the knives would have been very sharp. Better to get someone in now who can assess ahead of the Summer. Trouble is, what is available now is a list of out of work failures. But I don't think waiting until the Summer to recruit would open many additional choices.
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Post by bowranger on Apr 6, 2019 13:52:34 GMT
I mean that's a different thing entirely. Was just saying that if you've seen us play awful for about 3 months, sack a manager and have another awful game, I don't think that implies very much. On the cup, I wouldn't have sacrificed it simply because I enjoyed us having a little cup run and injected a bit of extra excitement going to matches. All hypothetical really, by the same token if we hadn't sent those players on loan we could have rotated more. I think what's more to do with it is that while Holloway made wholesale changes seemingly regardless of performance, McClaren had his preferred eleven and flogged our core players to death when they needed a rest. Freeman And See in particular suffered from that. I wouldn't swap the cup games, one because frankly if you can't enjoy winning a cup game then why bother going and two, there's as much evidence about ccup runs galvanizing a team and building momentum as there is for it harming them. Weve been crying out for us take cups seriously here for years - I don't look at this group of players and think 'you subtract two cup games and it's a totally different season'. I don't know about the why's of late goals and just before half time. Concentration seems the most likely. But again, that was a documented problem for ages - I remember LFW painstakingly trotting out the stats on it for last season too. Which was a season where we rotated and changed our lineup more than this year. Agree with that - I'm just throwing out some tangential thoughts as there is not much we can say about the game. For sure, same. Feels a bit like picking over the wreckage and trying to work out how we crashed so badly. What a bleak season.
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Post by rickyqpr on Apr 6, 2019 14:03:33 GMT
Had there been a new manager in the dugout, he would have got off to the worse possible start and the mood would have been even darker e.g that was worse than McClaren Better to let Eustace take the pain in a game we were never going to win. May also be the case for Millwall - new man watching but Eustace in charge. New guy then starts with the home games. Actually.....that makes good sense.
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