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Post by simonr on Nov 12, 2014 22:28:55 GMT
So...nothing to see here then, the only dodgy stuff involved our very own FA and Mr Jack Warner! linkFrom the BBC Sport website 12 November 2014 Last updated at 20:51 World Cup 2022: Qatar to be cleared of corruption over bid By Richard Conway & Dan Roan BBC Radio 5 live sports news correspondent & BBC sports editor Qatar will be cleared of corruption claims over the 2022 World Cup bidding process when a Fifa report is published on Thursday, BBC Sport has learned. It was alleged that officials took £3m in return for supporting Qatar. Fifa's independent ethics adjudicator, Hans Joachim Eckert, will clear Qatar of wrongdoing in his report. The English Football Association will be admonished over its relationship with the then Fifa vice-president Jack Warner, who resigned in 2011. Russia and Qatar were awarded the 2018 and 2022 World Cups respectively after Fifa executives voted in 2010. After multiple corruption allegations, Fifa's independent ethics investigator Michael Garcia began an inquiry. Qatar's 2022 bid committee denied "all allegations of wrongdoing". Garcia, together with deputy Cornel Borbely, interviewed individuals involved in all nine bids, across 11 nations. He submitted a 430-page report to Eckert, a German judge, in early September. After studying Garcia's findings, Eckert will publish a 42-page summary on Thursday at 09:00 GMT. Warner resigned in June 2011, having been suspended pending an investigation into bribery allegations. A senior FA source told the BBC on Wednesday that the governing body will take stock of the report once it is published and want to see Eckert's findings in relation to the conduct of other bidding nations. It is understood that the FA believes it was fully compliant with Garcia's investigation and thinks any transgressions contained in the report will be relatively minor. The bid company that promoted England's World Cup bid has since closed, with many of its employees, who were not FA staff members, now working outside the football industry.
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Post by sharky on Nov 13, 2014 6:20:45 GMT
Now why aren't I surprised.
No good bunch of to**ers!
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Nov 13, 2014 10:18:46 GMT
Yes, saw that last night, just after the news confirming that Pope Francis is in fact a Catholic and that bears really do sh*t in the woods - confirmation here... www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtOckG5tNhc
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Post by alfaranger on Nov 13, 2014 12:45:08 GMT
Well, this is getting interesting. The guy who FIFA appointed to investigate the bidding process, Michael Garcia, gave the report to FIFA in September and FIFA have published it today. Garcia is saying that the publication is NOT the report he gave them and there are substantial errors, facts missing etc. I wonder if the bit about the FA is as Garcia wrote it or if its a 'fabrication' from that c*nt Blatter and his lacky (who wont hand his watch back). www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30037729
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Post by simonr on Nov 13, 2014 13:34:33 GMT
Yes, this one could run and run. I particularly like the quote in the piece from the Russians. "Alexey Sorokin, the chief of Russia's 2018 World Cup organising committee, said the country had nothing to hide."
This is probably why they destroyed all the computers that were used in the bidding process and so were unable to provide any e mail evidence to Sr Garcia.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Nov 13, 2014 15:42:01 GMT
"Alexey Sorokin, the chief of Russia's 2018 World Cup organising committee, said the country had nothing to hide." This is probably why they destroyed all the computers that were used in the bidding process and so were unable to provide any e mail evidence to Sr Garcia. "We have nothing to hide (let's destroy all the computers)" This would be so hilariously funny, if it wasn't so sickeningly par-for-the-course in anything to do with FIFA. Can there be anyone on the planet who believes one single word coming out of Zurich?
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Post by simonr on Nov 13, 2014 22:40:30 GMT
On the BBC website Greg Dyke has this to say... Fifa's report into World Cup corruption is now pointless and a joke, according to English Football Association chairman Greg Dyke. He made his comments after the man who investigated claims of wrongdoing said the report was "erroneous". "It's a bit of a joke, the whole process," Dyke told BBC Sport, adding that it looked "pretty ugly for Fifa". linkA rather less realistic response from FIFA Vice President Jim Boyce in the Independent... Boyce, from Northern Ireland, told Press Association Sport: "Personally I am pleased that the report has been issued by Mr Eckert and the findings would appear to confirm that no further action should be taken on the decisions that had been made by Fifa in respect of the awarding of the World Cups for 2018 and 2022."The people charged with issuing this report, Michael Garcia and Hans-Joachim Eckert, are people of the highest professional integrity and following their extensive investigations I feel it is now very important that people should concentrate solely on the wonderful occasion that the World Cup provides to the many millions of people who enjoy our game." link
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Post by Markqpr on Nov 14, 2014 9:05:33 GMT
FIFA Vice President Jim Boyce in the Independent... "I feel it is now very important that people should concentrate solely on the wonderful occasion that the World Cup provides to the many millions of people who enjoy our game." linkIs he talking about the "wonderful" opportunity afforded by Qatar to Nepalese workers to come to Qatar, get ripped off as slave labour, have their passports confiscated by their employers under law and treated in abhorrent conditions including dangerous practises in the work place leading to hundreds of unaccounted for deaths on the stadium building sites? More than 180 migrant workers died in Qatar last year and a significant number are believed to have suffered injuries as a result of unsafe working practices.I counter Jim Boyce's quote with this one: Sherif Elsayed-Ali, Head of Refugee and Migrants' Rights at Amnesty International, said: "Time is running out fast. It has been four years since Qatar won the bid to host the World Cup, putting itself in the global spotlight, so far its response to migrant labour abuses has not been much more than promises of action and draft laws." "Urgent action is needed to ensure we do not end up with a World Cup tournament that is built on forced labour and exploitation."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30016202
Or we could discuss Human Rights abuses in Russia against it's own people if FIFA would prefer...............
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Nov 14, 2014 12:00:44 GMT
Refuse to defend the FA over this, they're just as corrupt and ineffective as FIFA are.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 15, 2014 20:18:45 GMT
This news gave me a full one hour of laughter. Almost as funny as watching Porridge. How can Blatter look at himself in a mirror and keep a straight face. Mind you, it must be nice knowing that whe. You walk past people, some of them are s.n.i.g.g.e.r.i.n.g about you.
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Post by simonr on Nov 16, 2014 8:20:47 GMT
FIFA update: UEFA could withdraw from FIFA! I'm not sure if that would leave us any better off. From the Guardian website linkThe president of the German Football League has warned that Uefa’s 54 member nations could take the ultimate step of quitting Fifa if Michael Garcia’s report into World Cup bidding is not published in full. Dr Reinhard Rauball laid bare the tensions within Fifa over the split between the ethics committee judge, Hans-Joachim Eckert, and Garcia, the US attorney who heads the investigatory arm and spent 18 months probing the race for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. Garcia has disowned Eckert’s summary of his 430-page report, which effectively cleared Russia and Qatar. “The result was a breakdown in communication, and it has shaken the foundations of Fifa in a way I’ve never experienced before,” said Rauball. “As a solution, two things must happen. Not only must the decision of the ethics committee be published, but Mr Garcia’s bill of indictment too, so it becomes clear what the charges were and how they were judged,” he told the German website kicker.de. “Additionally, the areas that were not evaluated [in the report] and whether that was justified [should be published]. It must be made public. That is the only way Fifa can deal with the complete loss of credibility.” He said that if the report was not published in full – and Eckert has already said that he will not do that, while Fifa argues it cannot intervene – then Uefa should consider its own position within Fifa. “If this doesn’t happen and the crisis is not resolved in a credible manner, you have to entertain the question of whether you are still in good hands with Fifa,” Rauball added. “One option that would have to bear serious consideration is certainly that Uefa leaves Fifa.” Rauball’s intervention comes against the backdrop of Uefa’s calls for the Fifa president, Sepp Blatter, to stand down, as he promised to do at the end of his current four-year term. Although the Uefa president, Michel Platini, has opted against standing against Blatter in next year’s election, Uefa is continuing to cast around for an alternative candidate to take on the 78-year-old Swiss. Before the Brazil World Cup, a series of speakers at Uefa’s congress stood up to call for Blatter to make his current term his last, while the FA chairman, Greg Dyke, denounced Blatter for claiming corruption allegations in the media were motivated by racism. Fifa confirmed on Friday night that it had received formal notification of Garcia’s intention to take Eckert’s summary of his investigation to its appeals committee. Meanwhile, one of the two whistleblowers discredited in Eckert’s statement, Bonita Mersiades, the head of communications for Australia’s 2022 bid, was scathing in her assessment of Fifa’s handling of the investigation. “It’s an organisation that, in terms of governance, is just a farce,” she said. “The only people that come out well in that summary report by Eckert is Fifa. [It says] they got their decisions right in respect to Qatar and Russia, and there’s even a sentence and a reference in there that Sepp Blatter ran a wonderful process. It’s almost like high comedy.”
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 16, 2014 9:59:29 GMT
What corruption? Honest Sepp and his cronies have never seen one of these, i am sure.
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Post by sharky on Nov 16, 2014 13:55:18 GMT
And the country that got 1 vote only, Australia is accused of corruption by FIFA. If it wasn't so serious it would be a good laugh!
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Post by simonr on Nov 17, 2014 8:18:27 GMT
David Bernstein sticks his oar in. Isn't it amazing how people can grow a pair once they have left an organisation... World Cup: Former FA chief David Bernstein calls for boycott By David Ornstein BBC Sport The Football Association has been urged to lobby Uefa for a European boycott of the next World Cup - unless Fifa implements meaningful reform. Former FA chairman David Bernstein told BBC Sport it was time for "drastic" action against the governing body. He believes the tournament could not be taken seriously without Europe's major nations and that a boycott would be supported by the English public. Meanwhile, Bernstein has resigned from Fifa's anti-discrimination taskforce. He described it as "ineffectual" and wishes to end his ties with the organisation. In an exclusive interview, the 71-year-old also said: Fifa is a "totalitarian" set-up that reminds him of "the old Soviet empire" and is "beyond ridicule". The credibility of football is "suffering enormously" under the current Fifa regime. Choosing Qatar to host the 2022 World Cup was "one of the most ludicrous decisions in the history of sport". Fifa president Sepp Blatter will remain in power "unless someone does something about it". Those are the main points but the whole article is here for those who are interested linkThe picture of Blatter holding up the card saying 'Qatar' is really starting to annoy me.
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Post by alfaranger on Nov 17, 2014 9:19:40 GMT
Eusebio's previous avatar would be quite relevant for this subject (what happened to that by the way; I rather liked it as it contained a universal truth not constrained by borders - was it originally Martin Luther King or did he take it from somewhere else?)
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Nov 17, 2014 15:32:55 GMT
More FIFA excrement... The two whistleblowers whose anonymity was effectively blown by Fifa’s summary of its ethics probe into the 2018 and 2022 World Cup tournaments have submitted formal complaints about their treatment at the hands of investigators. Phaedra Almajid, who first made serious allegations about Qatar’s 2022 World Cup bid, said her identification has threatened the safety of her family. She has now written to Michael Garcia, the head of the investigatory arm of Fifa’s ethics committee, to protest at her treatment. Her intervention comes amid growing disquiet about the way whistleblowers who spoke to Garcia under condition of anonymity have been publicly traduced by the judge Hans-Joachim Eckert, whose 42-page summary was disowned by the New York attorney. Eckert – who has already said he will not publish the full 430-page report – and Garcia plan to meet on Thursday to try to settle their differences over the summary findings of an 18-month, £6m investigation that effectively cleared Russia, winner of the 2018 vote, and Qatar of serious wrongdoing. Bonita Mersiades, the former Australia 2022 executive who also gave evidence to Garcia on three occasions under condition that her anonymity would be protected, has also submitted a formal letter of complaint to him. “It says much about Fifa and those inside their tent that they felt it necessary to engage in a denigration of the two women who had been courageous enough to say something,” said Mersiades in an article for the Guardian. “It is one thing to discount our discussions and the evidence – an investigator is entitled to do that - but it is extraordinary to single out two individuals and detail (mostly incorrectly) the contact with Mike Garcia, especially when we were assured in writing and in person that our dealings with him were confidential.” In the letter from Aljamid, seen by the Guardian, she said she had agreed to speak to Garcia despite no longer working in football but did so “in the belief that the true facts known to me are important to the purposes of your investigation”. “My cooperation was based on your promise of confidentiality. You have said that ‘in the course of any investigation [you are] bound by confidentiality’, and ‘also want to protect anyone who would wish to come to me in good faith’. As an organisation, Fifa has stated that the identities of the people you spoke with – other than current serving football officials or employees – would remain confidential,” she wrote.Almajid pointed out that the promises of confidentiality were repeated by Fifa’s chief legal counsel, Marco Villiger, two months ago at the height of a debate about whether Garcia’s report should be published in full. Ironically, Fifa claimed that one of the main reasons for producing a summary rather than publishing the full report was to protect the anonymity of whistleblowers. “As I have explained to you and your colleagues, confidentiality was crucial to my cooperation with your investigation, considering my personal circumstances, particularly the safety of my two sons and me,” said Aljamid. “Not only was Herr Eckert’s summary a crude, cynical and fundamentally erroneous description of me and the information and materials I provided your investigation, it directly breached Fifa’s assurances of my confidentiality.” Like Mersiades, Almajid saw her evidence discredited in the disputed summary of Garcia’s report compiled by Eckert. Eckert said Mersiades, who is not named but is easy to identify from the summary report, provided “some useful information” but claimed “the evidence did not support its specific recollections and allegations” and “further undermined its own reliability” by speaking to the media. The German judge said Almajid “provided voluminous records and other information” but said there were “serious concerns about the individual’s credibility” and therefore the report had not relied on any information or material she provided. Almajid worked on the Qatar bid in a senior communications role and was behind allegations aired under parliamentary privilege that the African Fifa executives Issa Hayatou, Jacques Anouma and Amos Adamu were given $1.5m each to vote for Qatar. The three have denied the allegations, as has the Qatar bid committee. She later retracted the claim but has now said she agreed to do so only under duress, after the Qatar organising committee said it would not bring legal action against her for breaching a confidentiality clause in her contract if she signed the sworn statement. In 2011, Aljamid signed the sworn statement in which she said she had fabricated her original allegations and had not been put under any pressure, or received any financial inducements, for retracting the claims. She said at the time that the decision was “entirely my own” and that she felt “sorry” and “guilty” for undermining the credibility of the ultimately successful Qatari bid. “Although Herr Eckert did not name me in his report, he directly identified me and my information by connecting it to my publicly reported statements three years ago. Within hours of publication of Herr Eckert’s summary, I had already been widely identified as one of the ‘whistleblowers’ in German and British media,” she wrote. “As if identifying me were not enough, Herr Eckert’s report falsely discredits me in order to support his indefensible conclusion that the December 2010 bidding was wholly acceptable.”She said that Eckert had put her safety and that of her family at risk by effectively singling her and Mersiades out from the 70 plus witnesses who spoke to Garcia, making their evidence easy to identify. “In any organisation – particularly one with huge resources and global reach like Fifa – protection of insiders who expose wrongdoing is essential to an honest and healthy business. Identifying me and falsely discrediting me sends a message to anyone who may think to come forward that their credibility and protection will be in jeopardy for the rest of their lives,” she wrote. “I have taken great personal risks to stand up for the truth in a highly politicised atmosphere. However I have found myself betrayed and denigrated for being courageous enough to come forward with critical information. “My fate reveals much about Fifa and its modus operandi. A culture of silence is rewarded; those who speak out and dare to question the system are not just cast aside, but ironically denied any protection or respect under Fifa’s own Code of Ethics.” Hours after Eckert’s summary, which effectively cleared Russia and Qatar to host the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, Garcia complained that it misrepresented the facts of his report and his conclusions and reported the matter to Fifa’s appeals committee. In a joint statement, the pair complained that Eckert had broken rule 16.1 of the ethics committee code, which guarantees confidentiality to whistleblowers. “The summary by Judge Eckert clearly breached all such assurances of confidentiality. Although not named in the report, we were clearly identifiable and within hours of its publication had been widely unmasked as the ‘whistleblowers’ in German, British and Australian media,” they said. “To compound this situation Judge Eckert used his summary report to question our credibility. This is particularly puzzling as the summary simultaneously uses the same information we provided to form significant parts of his inquiry in respect of the Australian and Qatar World Cup bids.” www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/17/whistleblowers-complain-fifa-ethics-report?CMP=twt_gu
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Post by simonr on Nov 17, 2014 17:15:37 GMT
This is all boiling up nicely, but although this whole thing is playing out like a dark comedy I think we have to remember the human cost like the migrant workers in Qatar, I don't think they have much to laugh about. If you really want to wallow in the do do this article sets out some of it. David Hills The Observer, Saturday 15 November 2014 Here's a taster... 1) Michel Zen-Ruffinen, Fifa’s secretary general until 2002, filmed before the process began setting out what it would cost to buy the votes of key executives. “The biggest gangster on earth” wanted £350,000; another was “a guy you can [get] with ladies, not money”. 2) Nigeria’s Exco member Amos Adamu, caught naming his price in a Sunday Times sting, months after telling colleagues: “The public sees every football administrator as corrupt, and I cannot explain why it is so. We must always be transparent to prove them wrong!” 3) Botswana’s Ismail Bhamjee, caught in the same sting offering to work as a fixer, four years after being caught in his first sting – touting 2006 World Cup tickets at three times face value to supplement his £270 daily expenses. “I got myself in a mess. It was out of character.” and here's the whole article link
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 18, 2014 8:18:09 GMT
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Post by Markqpr on Nov 18, 2014 10:02:15 GMT
This is all boiling up nicely, but although this whole thing is playing out like a dark comedy I think we have to remember the human cost like the migrant workers in Qatar, I don't think they have much to laugh about. If you really want to wallow in the do do this article sets out some of it. David Hills The Observer, Saturday 15 November 2014 Here's a taster... 1) Michel Zen-Ruffinen, Fifa’s secretary general until 2002, filmed before the process began setting out what it would cost to buy the votes of key executives. “The biggest gangster on earth” wanted £350,000; another was “a guy you can [get] with ladies, not money”. 2) Nigeria’s Exco member Amos Adamu, caught naming his price in a Sunday Times sting, months after telling colleagues: “The public sees every football administrator as corrupt, and I cannot explain why it is so. We must always be transparent to prove them wrong!” 3) Botswana’s Ismail Bhamjee, caught in the same sting offering to work as a fixer, four years after being caught in his first sting – touting 2006 World Cup tickets at three times face value to supplement his £270 daily expenses. “I got myself in a mess. It was out of character.” and here's the whole article linkGuardian Reader! The only surprise in that article was it's length, though I'm not sure that the internet is big enough for a full report on FIFA's deficiencies and hypocritical behaviour.
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Post by terryb on Nov 18, 2014 17:30:06 GMT
On my way home from work did I hear correctly, that FIFA have asked the Swiss authorities to hold a criminal inquiry into the awarding of the 2018 & 2022 World Cups?
This is a very surprising outcome. Is this knowing that it will be whitewashed or are they running a little bit frightened?
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Post by blatantfowl on Nov 18, 2014 17:35:51 GMT
You heard right..it is breaking news right now. Seems to me that if they knew they were going to make criminal accusations at the time the report was published they should have done exactly that and not waited a few days to see how it was received... www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30103293Fifa lodges criminal complaint over World Cup hosting Fifa has lodged a criminal complaint against individuals connected to the bids to host the next two World Cups. President Sepp Blatter has acted on the advice of judge Hans-Joachim Eckert, whose report cleared Russia and Qatar to host the 2018 and 2022 tournaments. "There is insufficient incriminating evidence to call into question the whole bidding process," said Eckert. Although the report has been widely criticised, Blatter has resisted calls for it to be made public. "If Fifa were to publish the report, we would be violating our own association law as well as state law," he said. However, football's world governing body do have significant areas of concern. In a statement, it said: "There seem to be grounds for suspicion that, in isolated cases, international transfers of assets with connections to Switzerland took place, which merit examination by the criminal prosecution authorities." Blatter said the move shows Fifa is not opposed to transparency. He added: "If we had anything to hide, we would hardly be taking this matter to the Office of the Attorney General." Eckert confirmed he had advised Fifa that a criminal complaint be lodged at or around the same time he produced his report last week.
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Post by blatantfowl on Nov 18, 2014 17:44:13 GMT
They should publish the whole report without being concerned about association law. After all, how can an investigation into corruption in an organisation be stopped by the rules of the same organisation?
And as for state laws, a few minor reductions would allow for the report to be published without committing a state offence.
I hope the Swiss Attorney General asks for the whole report and they can make their own judgement whether there has been criminal activity and who has done it
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Nov 18, 2014 18:17:21 GMT
My take on this...
BLATTER: "If we had anything to hide, we would hardly be taking this matter to the Office of the Attorney General."
What, Blatter the good guy? NEVER in a million years.
So they've apparently "lodged a criminal complaint against individuals connected to the bids".
No specifics - but perhaps just enough so they can, most sincerely, with hands on hearts, say:
"Oh, we couldn't POSSIBLY publish the full report, as we've submitted a legal complaint - so therefore it would be sub judice to do so..."
What cynical, conniving sh*ts.... the lies and corruption just go on and on.
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Post by alfaranger on Nov 18, 2014 18:36:01 GMT
My take on this... BLATTER: "If we had anything to hide, we would hardly be taking this matter to the Office of the Attorney General." What, Blatter the good guy? NEVER in a million years. So they've apparently "lodged a criminal complaint against individuals connected to the bids". No specifics - but perhaps just enough so they can, most sincerely, with hands on hearts, say: "Oh, we couldn't POSSIBLY publish the full report, as we've submitted a legal complaint - so therefore it would be sub judice to do so..." What cynical, conniving sh*ts.... the lies and corruption just go on and on. Good points. Seems quite likely this.
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Post by simonr on Nov 18, 2014 19:13:55 GMT
Similarities to the infamous John Terry case where, because someone in the crowd brought a case the effect was that the FA couldn't do anything until the court case had been heard. Now we do not know who that person was, and they may well have brought the case to court with the intention of showing someone up for using racist language, but the consequence was that there was a long delay before the FA could address the case. If these FIFA cases, whatever they are, are tied up in the Swiss Legal system it could go on for years, legal arguements over whether the offences took place in Switzerland etc. by then Blatter could say that preparations for 2018 and 2022 are too far advanced to change at such short notice and sponsor's contracts have been signed and so on. There is the added bonus for him, of never having to publish the Garcia report as it would predudice the case. Just look the slimy fish Blatter quote; "If we had anything to hide, we would hardly be taking this matter to the Office of the Attorney General." and take the opposite meaning 'We have lots to hide so we are taking the matter to the Attorney General' he hasn't got to the top of FIFA's greasy pole by being just an honest guy. Therefore, hopefully the Swiss Courts will throw the case out.
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Post by blatantfowl on Nov 19, 2014 21:18:10 GMT
Blatter nows says FIFA would need the permission of everybody in the full report in order to be able to publish it. He added a question to Greg Dyke to ask whether Dyke's request to have the full report published could be taken as him granting permission for all those involved in the English bid to host the 2018 world cup.
I think FIFA have found an indiscretion in the England bid and the criminal allegations are going to be against 1 or more members of the England bid committee.
If I am right, I believe they call those tactics "passive aggressive".
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 21, 2014 10:00:41 GMT
Meanwhile shredders and uninstall software are working 24/7...including cyberscrub software.
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Post by sharky on Nov 23, 2014 17:02:33 GMT
Isn't it time the Emperor was called for having no clothes?
Time for countries of integrity and honesty to say enough is enough, pull out of FIFA and start a corruption free alternative. The world game deserves so much better!
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Post by alfaranger on Dec 16, 2014 13:18:47 GMT
They are still at it: BBC, just now -
"A complaint by the man who spent two years investigating World Cup corruption claims for Fifa has been dismissed by football's governing body.
US lawyer Michael Garcia's findings were released as a 42-page summary by Fifa-appointed independent judge Hans-Joachim Eckert.
Garcia said his summary was "incomplete and erroneous" and he appealed against it to Fifa's Appeal Committee.
However, it has now ruled that Garcia's complaint is "not admissible". "
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Post by sharky on Dec 16, 2014 13:32:04 GMT
Nothing, I repeat nothing surprises me about FIFA anymore.
And the brazenness of it all. You couldn't make this stuff up, nobody would believe it!
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