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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 7, 2013 20:35:32 GMT
Report: Former DC defender Nelsen to be new TFC coach JANUARY 7, 2013 Matthew Doyle MLSsoccer.com New Toronto FC president Kevin Payne appears set to shake things up a bit more at BMO Field. According to a Soccer By Ives report on Monday, Payne has relieved current head coach Paul Mariner of his duties, and is set to name former D.C. United defender Ryan Nelsen as Mariner's replacement. This comes just hours after the news that technical manager Bob de Klerk has also been let go. There is expected to be a press conference announcing Nelsen on Tuesday.TFC did not immediately respond to a request for comment from MLSsoccer.com. Nelsen, a New Zealand international, spent five seasons with D.C., winning an MLS Cup title in 2004. He then moved on to a long and productive career in England, primarily with Blackburn Rovers. He also captained the All-Whites at the 2010 World Cup, in which they were the only squad to finish the tournament unbeaten. The 35-year-old Nelsen is currently on the books at Queens Park Rangers, but is not expected to feature as a player/coach for TFC, according to the report. www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/01/07/report-former-dc-defender-nelsen-be-new-tfc-coach?
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Post by cpr on Jan 7, 2013 20:40:05 GMT
Makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Other to reiterate my question.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2013 20:43:04 GMT
I don;t believe they pay really massive wages in the SOCCER world over here. So weird
And surely opportunity to play at the very top level should have appealed
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 7, 2013 20:43:29 GMT
I can only think that he has a clause in his contract that allows him to leave if he's offered a coaching/management role.....makes our hunt for a centre back critical
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Post by nomar on Jan 7, 2013 20:55:01 GMT
What doesn't make sense about it?
How many years do you think Nelsen has left playing? He only had a 1 yr deal with us so the chances are very high he would not be here with us next season regardless.
Most players would love the opportunity to move to the next tier of their profession and coach. These opportunities don't come about very often and so Nelsen is right to take it when its offered.
I am grateful to him for the 6 months he has given QPR and wish him all the best in this next phase of his career.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 7, 2013 20:55:06 GMT
I suppose it could mean we've signed a centre back? N'Koulou perhaps
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2013 20:55:28 GMT
I didnt think too much of Wilkins as manager. But did admire the way he wanted to keep playing even at 37.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 7, 2013 21:12:29 GMT
Heard loads just before the Chelsea match about Nelsen being exhausted so can only imagine this offer is too good to turn down and he doesn't feel he can carry on playing week in week out
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Post by cpr on Jan 7, 2013 21:21:14 GMT
What doesn't make sense about it? How many years do you think Nelsen has left playing? He only had a 1 yr deal with us so the chances are very high he would not be here with us next season regardless. Most players would love the opportunity to move to the next tier of their profession and coach. These opportunities don't come about very often and so Nelsen is right to take it when its offered. I am grateful to him for the 6 months he has given QPR and wish him all the best in this next phase of his career. What doesn't make sense? What sort of question is that? He signed a contract for a year and wants out halfway through it when he's most needed. If this is true of course. Thought he was a bloke to have alongside you in the trenches but he clearly is not. If he goes, bollox to him, I'll have lost all respect and anything he has done in the past six months is quickly forgotten. This pisses me off a lot, if it doesn't you, so be it.
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Post by nomar on Jan 7, 2013 21:52:23 GMT
Bosingwa has a 3 yr deal. But we don't want to hold him to that, do we! Cuts both ways really.
Toronto will have to compensate the club for his remaining few months anyway. Its a shame but like Harry said, you can't stand in the way of people when they want to go into management roles.
Its not like he's jumping ship to Reading or Wigan either. He's making a lifestyle and career choice, the like of which he may never get the chance to make again.
Just a shame really if we can't appreciate the professional attitude and application he has shown these last 6 months and allow him to set himself up for the next phase of his career without being bitter about him leaving.
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Post by cpr on Jan 7, 2013 22:06:32 GMT
Bosingwa has a 3 yr deal. But we don't want to hold him to that, do we! Cuts both ways really. Toronto will have to compensate the club for his remaining few months anyway. Its a shame but like Harry said, you can't stand in the way of people when they want to go into management roles. Its not like he's jumping ship to Reading or Wigan either. He's making a lifestyle and career choice, the like of which he may never get the chance to make again. Just a shame really if we can't appreciate the professional attitude and application he has shown these last 6 months and allow him to set himself up for the next phase of his career without being bitter about him leaving. Bosingwa is a different apple, one we are not discussing. Tis is about Nelsen leaving us. He's jumping ship, end of, where to is an elephant. Hw do you appreciate an attitude that clears off halfway through a job? I mean a five month wait will clearly destroy his life and future opportunities, how naive of me! I'm not being bitter, I'm being realistic. He has been touted as the man people would most want alongside them in the trenches. It now seems that as there a too many bullets he wants to climb the ladder and leg it. I hope I'm wrong but I won't be applauding him if he buggers off, I'll leave that to you.
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Post by nomar on Jan 7, 2013 22:13:14 GMT
Yeah, ok. Nelsen should tell Toronto to find someone else to take the job they have offered him and tell his family to put their plans on hold indefinitely.
Happy now?
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Post by cpr on Jan 7, 2013 22:16:25 GMT
Yeah, ok. Nelsen should tell Toronto to find someone else to take the job they have offered him and tell his family to put their plans on hold indefinitely. Happy now? Now who's getting grumpy? How does him and his family have to shelve any plans? This offer has only just been made as far as I know, I doubt it's the future he had mapped out for him and his family. Or do you know otherwise? Toronto, the hub of global football, everyone's dream location, Yes, I see your point.
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Post by londonranger on Jan 7, 2013 22:16:49 GMT
CPR always makes sense, except when he doesnt. Still losing the exhausted one is a stab in the back for us. Not intentional, but he was the glue in a sea of blancmange. But its not over til its over, have to drink more Ovaltine. (huh,)
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Post by scarletpimple on Jan 7, 2013 22:24:28 GMT
I have to agree with Baz....if we cant find a decent cb in time then Nelson is dropping us in the shoit big time and possibly the last nail in the coffin.
Ferdinand it is then.......god help us.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 7, 2013 22:25:53 GMT
Mbia to cb and Faurlin back into midfield
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Post by scarletpimple on Jan 7, 2013 22:28:59 GMT
Looks like were losing Ben Haim for a while as well, been called up for his country, three games, could stretch to a month.
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Post by rico on Jan 7, 2013 22:32:32 GMT
This still goes back to Hughes not signing a much needed defender centre back when it was clear the squad was crying out for one along with nelson who i would have thought was going to be cover and not a first team regular as it is now he will be bloody missed unless harry can pull something out of the hat the problems just get bigger
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Post by nomar on Jan 7, 2013 22:32:41 GMT
Yes, eus. M'Bia can play CB, so can Onouha. We bought these players cos we believed they could do a job for us in this league.
So, coach them up and let them do what we are paying them ridiculously well to do in the first place, innit.
If Nelsen stayed and broke his leg on Feb 1st we'd have to somehow manage with the other 24 we were left with.
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Post by scarletpimple on Jan 7, 2013 22:33:51 GMT
Mbia to cb and Faurlin back into midfield Eus, Mbia not impressed me at cb dont know what others think, have no problem with fourlin but something missing since his bad injury, he never was the fastest but seems even slower now. Trouble with our midfield is non of em really seem to be box to box, prob why harry is looking at midfielders as well.
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Post by cpr on Jan 7, 2013 22:39:40 GMT
Yes, eus. M'Bia can play CB, so can Onouha. We bought these players cos we believed they could do a job for us in this league. So, coach them up and let them do what we are paying them ridiculously well to do in the first place, innit. If Nelsen stayed and broke his leg on Feb 1st we'd have to somehow manage with the other 24 we were left with. If Taarabt broke his leg we'd have to manage without him as well but that's not the point is it!!! Nelsen isn't injured, he's dumping us in the shit, shit we are deep enough in already but that clearly doesn't concern him. I will repeat, if this is actually true of course. Let's not forget, Alex, Dawson and Carvalho turned us down, the latter two, very late in the window. I'll wager Hughes banked on getting at least one of them.
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Post by bowles on Jan 7, 2013 22:43:40 GMT
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Post by londonranger on Jan 7, 2013 22:44:14 GMT
We could get One Size back for a song. We struggled last season in that position also. The word was
a good man was hard to find and tres expensive. Still we spent so much on overpriced surplus.
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Post by bowles on Jan 7, 2013 22:48:32 GMT
Id play big dan over aton i live on my brothers name ferdinand!
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Post by nomar on Jan 7, 2013 22:50:26 GMT
Yes, eus. M'Bia can play CB, so can Onouha. We bought these players cos we believed they could do a job for us in this league. So, coach them up and let them do what we are paying them ridiculously well to do in the first place, innit. If Nelsen stayed and broke his leg on Feb 1st we'd have to somehow manage with the other 24 we were left with. If Taarabt broke his leg we'd have to manage without him as well but that's not the point is it!!! Nelsen isn't injured, he's dumping us in the shit, shit we are deep enough in already but that clearly doesn't concern him. I will repeat, if this is actually true of course. Let's not forget, Alex, Dawson and Carvalho turned us down, the latter two, very late in the window. I'll wager Hughes banked on getting at least one of them. I reckon we dodged a bullet by not getting any of them 3. My guess is they'd have been the same as Bosingwa in attitude and application. Why did we buy Onouha for if we weren't going to play him? We cannot just keep going out and buying new players every time a transfer window opens. Now, I suspect Redknapp will bring in a CB or two, but they will still have to then play themselves in for a few games. At least M'Bia and Onouha know the system and the team already. Don't get me wrong, CPR, I am gutted Nelsen is leaving us as he is our best defender, but s*** happens my friend. Fact is, the club has been absolutely criminally stupid in their negligence during the last few windows and those chickens may now be coming home to roost. We'll see what Redkapp does over the next few weeks now to address the CB issue. One things for sure though. Its never a dull moment being a QPR fan!
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 7, 2013 22:51:28 GMT
Looks like were losing Ben Haim for a while as well, been called up for his country, three games, could stretch to a month. Israel face Finland in a friendly match next month on 6th February in Netanya.
That match will be followed by two 2014 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers, the first at home to Portugal (22nd March) before travelling to Northern Ireland four days later (26th March).He'll miss Swansea away at most as that is on the 9th February but could recover in time and play. The weekend of the 23rd March we have no game. He's not pissing off for a month to a Cup Competition!
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Post by cpr on Jan 7, 2013 22:53:23 GMT
If Taarabt broke his leg we'd have to manage without him as well but that's not the point is it!!! Nelsen isn't injured, he's dumping us in the shit, shit we are deep enough in already but that clearly doesn't concern him. I will repeat, if this is actually true of course. Let's not forget, Alex, Dawson and Carvalho turned us down, the latter two, very late in the window. I'll wager Hughes banked on getting at least one of them. I reckon we dodged a bullet by not getting any of them 3. My guess is they'd have been the same as Bosingwa in attitude and application. Why did we buy Onouha for if we weren't going to play him? We cannot just keep going out and buying new players every time a transfer window opens. Now, I suspect Redknapp will bring in a CB or two, but they will still have to then play themselves in for a few games. At least M'Bia and Onouha know the system and the team already. Don't get me wrong, CPR, I am gutted Nelsen is leaving us as he is our best defender, but s*** happens my friend. Fact is, the club has been absolutely criminally stupid in their negligence during the last few windows and those chickens may now be coming home to roost. We'll see what Redkapp does over the next few weeks now to address the CB issue. One things for sure though. Its never a dull moment being a QPR fan! Tis indeed all true my friend. Let's take a flyer and say we lose what we may lose. Does this vack four look too bad? Fabio Onouha M'bia Traore I think not.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 7, 2013 23:09:26 GMT
Nelsen ready to quit QPR and take over as manager of Toronto By SIMON JONES PUBLISHED: 22:57, 7 January 2013 | UPDATED: 22:57, 7 January 2013 Comments (0) Share QPR defender Ryan Nelsen is to take up a post as head coach with Toronto FC and replace Paul Mariner. Toronto will make the announcement on Tuesday with former Arsenal and Ipswich striker Mariner, who doubled as director of soccer operations, likely to return to England. On his way: Ryan Nelsen looks set to join Toronto as manager MLS side DC United had attempted to lure the 35-year-old New Zealander to the MLS but Nelsen has been swayed by Toronto president and general manager Kevin Payne who was an executive at DC United when he played there previously between 2001 and 2005. Speaking over the weekend, boss Harry Redknapp revealed his regret at the fact he was set to lose his star man. He said: ‘There is some truth in the rumour I’m afraid. Nelsen is very important to us, a fantastic leader, a top player. ‘But he has been offered a job in America and I think there is every chance he might want to go. He wants to be a manager and it is a chance for him to manage a club. ‘He has been fantastic. I took him to Tottenham last year from Blackburn. He’s one of the best pros I’ve ever met in my life, a fantastic player, a great trainer, a leader. ‘He is a massive part of your team. To lose him would be a massive blow for us.’ Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2258705/QPRs-Ryan-Nelsen-set-replace-Paul-Mariner-Toronto-FC-manager.html#ixzz2HKllvK6j Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Post by sharky on Jan 7, 2013 23:10:03 GMT
The longer it goes on without an announcement that Nelsen is actually leaving makes it less likely that he will leave IMO. I say this because if it were done and dusted there would have been an announcement. Probably some behind the scenes moves going on. We will just have to wait and see I suppose. That's modern football for you.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 7, 2013 23:11:01 GMT
I think this is not a UK rumour but a north American Confirmation it's happening
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