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Post by nomar on Nov 20, 2012 17:20:13 GMT
Just my take.
Its now out in the open that the board asked hughes to resign. That much we now know is fact.
The board would not go against TF behind his back and do that. So, logically, this had to have the consent of TF. I suspect TF really does not want to be the one to have to pull the trigger on his mate and so tried this half assed attempt to see if he could get Hughes to walk and spare him having to push him.
Having said no, it would appear that Hughes has now thrown the ball back in TF's court and basically said you either back me or sack me but be a man and do it to my face instead of hiding behind Beard and trying to get me to fall on my sword.
Which is fair enough really.
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Post by Marc on Nov 20, 2012 17:37:48 GMT
How is Beard asking Hughes to resign a fact nomar? Only heard rumour ad conjecture so far
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Post by cpr on Nov 20, 2012 17:41:06 GMT
Indeed, don't see it as a fact either. You ask an employee to resign in order to end things amicably but you want then to go, if they decline, you then sack them. In football you issue any old usual statement, mutual consent, whatever!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 17:46:12 GMT
Be amazed if he's there after the weekend if we let in more than 5 ? In that case he may be gone at h/t
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Post by haqpr1963 on Nov 20, 2012 17:50:28 GMT
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I can confirm that stories suggesting that Mark Hughes was asked to resign and refused to are inaccurate. #QPR
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 18:06:34 GMT
Inaccurate: Is that same as "Completely False?
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Post by cpr on Nov 20, 2012 18:07:15 GMT
Inaccurate, good word.
Truth is, Hughes offered his resignation but Beard refused to accept it.
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Post by tom007 on Nov 20, 2012 18:09:28 GMT
Inaccurate, good word. Truth is, Hughes offered his resignation but Beard refused to accept it. hypnotised beard as he came out with a hughes type phrase of we are working hard to turn it around.
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 18:10:46 GMT
Inaccurate, good word. Truth is, Hughes offered his resignation but Beard refused to accept it. Is that something that you're sure of? If so, WHY would he refuse? How depressing.
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Post by Bushman on Nov 20, 2012 18:16:29 GMT
Din Kamarudin is in town.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 20, 2012 18:21:40 GMT
Ian, can he play like Cyril Hatton did?
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Post by Sabas on Nov 20, 2012 18:43:02 GMT
Can we then have TWO managers on 4mil a year?
And Beckham! And Anelka!
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 19:44:03 GMT
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Board will discuss Hughes, sure, but not the case that Big Phil can't be the one to wield the axe. Was him who delivered the news to Warnock
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Post by Bushman on Nov 20, 2012 19:45:46 GMT
Ian, can he play like Cyril Hatton did? If only Harry.
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Post by harlowranger on Nov 20, 2012 19:50:39 GMT
Oh well , No League win for 14 games then
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Post by nomar on Nov 20, 2012 19:59:38 GMT
Ok, so it never happened then. Club needs to sue all these people who are lying then.
Whole thing is beyond a joke now. Just come out and say that you are sticking with him for the rest of the season or act now and get rid.
Surely they know by now whether they want him to stay or go. They also know the feelings of the ever growing disenchanted fan base.
Becoming farcical now.
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 20:03:19 GMT
I did tweet Mr. Taylor but didnt hear back
QPR REPORT þ@QPRReport @ijtaylor81 Just to be sure no "Misunderstanding"! By "Inaccurate" do you mean "Totally False" and "Completely Without Substance"? #QPR
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Post by londonranger on Nov 20, 2012 20:10:22 GMT
So this from Independent and Standard is fictional? Please let me know how one can decipher that.
he Evening Standard says Hughes met senior figures including chief executive Philip Beard and other influential figures in a meeting at which the Welshman was asked whether he would stand down after just 10 months in charge.
With the club willing to allow Hughes to depart
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Post by Markqpr on Nov 20, 2012 20:20:30 GMT
Din Kamarudin is in town. Did he happen to bring anyone who has experience and knows how to run a football club with him?
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Post by cpr on Nov 20, 2012 20:28:11 GMT
So this from Independent and Standard is fictional? Please let me know how one can decipher that. he Evening Standard says Hughes met senior figures including chief executive Philip Beard and other influential figures in a meeting at which the Welshman was asked whether he would stand down after just 10 months in charge. With the club willing to allow Hughes to depart "other influencial figures" jesus wept, who's that then the tea lady? Beard was at the training ground, had a meeting with Hughes, like they do every Monday, obviously this one had a bit more of the crucial about it but the made up shyte beggers belief! Didn't that citeh fan say Hughes has loads of journos on his side? Not exactly queueing up to spout his virtues are they!
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Post by Bushman on Nov 20, 2012 20:28:26 GMT
Din Kamarudin is in town. Did he happen to bring anyone who has experience and knows how to run a football club with him? Don't be silly.
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Post by cpr on Nov 20, 2012 20:32:34 GMT
Din Kamarudin is in town. Kamarudin Bin Meranun Rolls off the tongue, must sort a song out. He never looks happy anyway. We know why though.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 21, 2012 2:50:08 GMT
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Post by manta on Nov 21, 2012 3:17:24 GMT
If we fail to get a win at Man Utd then Hughes has to resign. If the man has any integrity at all he should hold his hands up admit he's failed and fall onto his sword.
Hughes is not bigger than the club. This is not about how much he can get from buying out his contract by clinging on to his job waiting to get sacked. He must do the right thing or his own reputation and integrity will be tarnished forever. And deservedly so. And I say that as someone who believed in hughes, thought he was the right man to take us forward and defended his terrible start to the season.
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Post by Sabas on Nov 21, 2012 6:31:04 GMT
I did tweet Mr. Taylor but didnt hear back QPR REPORT þ qprreport@ijtaylor81 Just to be sure no "Misunderstanding"! By "Inaccurate" do you mean "Totally False" and "Completely Without Substance"? #QPR Alas, our 'media guru' is convinced that relations with the public should be done exclusively through monologue.
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Post by Sabas on Nov 21, 2012 6:35:00 GMT
Perhaps he WAS given some sort of ultimatum: 4 points from the next 2, or else.
Man Utd have lost their edge through fixture traffic; maybe that's not that impossible.
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Post by nomar on Nov 21, 2012 6:41:22 GMT
Perhaps he WAS given some sort of ultimatum: 4 points from the next 2, or else. Man Utd have lost their edge through fixture traffic; maybe that's not that impossible. Apparently he was given an ultimatum of 5 pts from Reading, Stoke and Southampton matches. If true then why give him another ultimatum if the first one didn't produce the results you demanded? They need to act one way or the other. Either tell everyone that they're sticking with him and tough luck on the fans who want him replaced, or they get rid, put a caretaker in for Man Utd and Sunderland and look towards getting the new man in place for the next home game against Villa.
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Post by Sabas on Nov 21, 2012 7:10:41 GMT
Perhaps he WAS given some sort of ultimatum: 4 points from the next 2, or else. Man Utd have lost their edge through fixture traffic; maybe that's not that impossible. Apparently he was given an ultimatum of 5 pts from Reading, Stoke and Southampton matches. If true then why give him another ultimatum if the first one didn't produce the results you demanded? They need to act one way or the other. Either tell everyone that they're sticking with him and tough luck on the fans who want him replaced, or they get rid, put a caretaker in for Man Utd and Sunderland and look towards getting the new man in place for the next home game against Villa. Where did you hear that? If true, he should have been replaced for the Southampton match, as maths wouldn't add up. But was he? Maybe that 'ultimatum' was 'virtual', and wasn't put on the table openly.
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Post by nomar on Nov 21, 2012 7:18:19 GMT
Just sources on twitter who are usually reliable about QPR info. Hence reason why I said 'apparently' and 'if true'.
Club are not exactly going to issue him an ultimatum and then go public with it though, are they.
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 21, 2012 7:41:50 GMT
So Redknapp linked to Ukraine Job. Now Benitez Linked to Chelsea! Guardian Chelsea sound out Rafael Benítez for short-term fix after Juventus defeat • Di Matteo on thin ice months after winning European Cup • 'At the moment I am here and I think I will be in the future' Dominic Fifield in Turin The Guardian, Tuesday 20 November 2012 Chelsea have sounded out Rafael Benítez to determine his willingness to take over on a short-term contract should they decide to dispense with Roberto Di Matteo as manager in the coming days. The Italian saw his team humiliated by Juventus, a defeat that leaves his side teetering on the brink of elimination from the Champions League. Although Di Matteo insists he will stay and fight for his position, the fact that the club are looking at potential replacements will be unnerving, with the former Barcelona coach Pep Guardiola the first choice if he can be persuaded to return to work having stated he wanted a year-long sabbatical last May. The comprehensive 3‑0 defeat in Turin has left Di Matteo's side with only two wins in their last eight matches in all competitions ahead of the visit of Manchester City, the reigning champions and current league leaders, on Sunday. The Italian had taken the bold decision to drop Fernando Torres, their £50m British-record signing, for their most critical match of the season but Juve still prospered, undermining the manager's position only six months after his team won the title in Munich. "At the moment, I think, with the team, we are all in it together," said a deflated Di Matteo in the aftermath. "I'm responsible for the results and at the moment I am here and I think I will be for the future. But that question [about my future] is probably not one you should ask me. As far as I'm concerned, I'll keep working. But I'm responsible for the result. I'm responsible for the performance. It's a negative evening for us – a big disappointment for us, for the team, for the club. If anyone has to take the blame, it's me. I selected a team I was convinced was the right team to win against Juventus, or get at least a draw, so the blame belongs to me." Di Matteo was eventually rewarded for that stunning success in the Champions League final with a two-year contract which incorporates what was considered a standard break clause, which was agreed only once it became clear Guardiola intended to take a sabbatical from the game in the United States. The former Barcelona manager still intends to honour that, though the availability of Benítez, who had previously discussed taking over from André Villas-Boas last season, is unnerving. The Spaniard had been reluctant to accept a short-term contract midway through last season, though he remains out of work and is desperate to return to club management. In that context, the prospect of becoming the first European Cup holders to fail to escape the group stage damages Di Matteo. Juventus need only to avoid defeat at Shakhtar Donetsk next month to qualify at the holders' expense, the Ukrainians' 5-2 defeat of Nordsjaelland in Copenhagen having assured their own progress. That means Chelsea may end up in the Europa League even if they defeat the Danes in the final group match. The decision to drop Torres, while justified on recent form, also constituted a risk given the hierarchy's hopes that the Spain forward would become integral to the way this new-look team functions. "I didn't want to give the centre-backs any point of reference," said Di Matteo. "I'd rather have [Eden] Hazard, Oscar and [Juan] Mata interchanging positions and trying to find the space. In terms of that transition we were very dangerous and created some good opportunities. "I was convinced it was the right selection which is why I decided that. I thought we did create some problems for them. The first goal was fortunate for them. We had to take a few more risks after that. But my conviction was 100% to go with this team. "Mathematically, it's still possible [to go through]. While there's hope you still try. Who says that Juventus aren't going to lose at Shakhtar? We just have to make sure we do our job at our end, win the last group game. With 10 points, normally … usually, it's enough. Sometimes it's not." A sense of realism appeared to have descended over his disconsolate squad. "We said before the game that we have our destiny in our hands, but not any more," said the goalkeeper Petr Cech. "Now we need to do our bit: we need to win our last game and hope our fate is kind. Being realistic, Juventus played very well and they need a point and Shakhtar are already through. We showed much better spirit than the last games. In the first half it was very difficult, we did well and created chances, but if you create a chance you need to take it. "That was the difference. They went ahead with a lucky deflection, the second goal was another deflection, but they did very well and deserved to win. We didn't cope very well. It is a very sad moment because last season the Champions League was like a dream. I wouldn't say it's a nightmare now, but it's a huge disappointment." www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/21/chelsea-rafael-benitez-roberto-di-matteo
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