Junior, an adaptable defender or defensive midfielder, made his name with Flamengo in the mid-1970s and went on to represent his country on 74 occasions, featuring in the 1982 and 1986 World Cups.
An unfussy and functional player, Junior represented the shift in the philosophy of Brazilian football that occurred gradually over the course of the 1980s and early 1990s. He was a combative player who was quick to realise (probably because of the time he spent in Italy with Torino) the importance of European-style defensive organisation, something Brazil eventually adopted and used to good effect during their triumph in the 1994 World Cup, just two years after Junior’s international retirement.
Post by RoryTheRanger on Jul 19, 2012 19:21:15 GMT
Hoilett and Mackie play completely different positions so what's the worry?? Mackie WILL NOT be sold, or else Hughes will have an angry Ranger on his hands
Is the bad feeling about signing him or the player himself??
Bit of both, Rory, but I am not comfortable with Hoilett's reasons for coming with us. Don't see him as having a passion for the club.
I do see what you're saying. I think once he arrives and gets to know the players and coaches etc he will get sucked into all the positivity at the club.
Think back to when Adel signed for us, I'm sure he wasn't passionate about the club from the start.
Is the bad feeling about signing him or the player himself??
Bit of both, Rory, but I am not comfortable with Hoilett's reasons for coming with us. Don't see him as having a passion for the club.
Lets wait to it is official and we see him play first He may really show passion for us, I think we should watch him play I think he will show more passion than Zamora is doing
Is the bad feeling about signing him or the player himself??
Bit of both, Rory, but I am not comfortable with Hoilett's reasons for coming with us. Don't see him as having a passion for the club.
But we can't expect players to be fans. Who knows why he chose to come to us, we can only speculate but it's down to the gaffer to motivate him to show the commitment required on the pitch.
You could also question the passion for the club of many of the players signed over the last 12 months but we can only judge them once they're on the pitch.
I'd love to have 11 players on the pitch with Mackie's passion but, in truth, just half a dozen would make for a formidable team.
Is the bad feeling about signing him or the player himself??
Bit of both, Rory, but I am not comfortable with Hoilett's reasons for coming with us. Don't see him as having a passion for the club.
I think you are living in the wrong era if you're expecting players to sign for clubs because of passion.
They are employees, Gramps, and they go where they feel their services are going to be best recompensed. By and large, once they've signed they will give their all for the club but they don't often sign because they have a burning desire to play for the certain team that bids for them.
The days of Brian Clough taking players out for a fish and chip meal and then asking them if they want to play for Forest or not are long gone now.
Hoilett waits on work permit as QPR hope to complete switch from Rovers
By Sportsmail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 23:08, 19 July 2012 | UPDATED: 23:08, 19 July 2012
QPR are trying to secure a work permit for Junior Hoilett before completing the Canadian's signing from Blackburn.
The forward is keen to join Mark Hughes' side, who are on tour in Asia, and the clubs are discussing compensation.
As revealed by Sportsmail last week, an agreement is likely to be reached soon, but QPR officials want confirmation of Hoilett's work permit before finalising the deal.
The move is great news for Rangers' boss Hughes who thought he had lost out in the battle for Hoilett's signature.
Borussia Monchengladbach looked certain to sign him after Hoilett flew out to Germany for talks.
Dont think he needs one, he's as far as i can make out a uk resident.
Born in Brampton, Ontario, Hoilett was part of the Blackburn Rovers academy set up since the age of 13. He was initially unable to obtain a work permit whilst in England; as a result, Blackburn loaned him to German clubs to help the player earn one in the future.
In January 2009, his home club Blackburn Rovers applied for Hoilett to get a work permit for him to play football in England.
In the Summer of 2009, Hoilett was granted a work permit on appeal, allowing him to continue his fledgling career in England at Premier League club Blackburn.
Unbelievable signing for 'li'l old QPR' .I bet there will be some venom spat at 'li'l old QPR ' on a couple of fan forums tonight ... You know the usual suspects..
Bit of both, Rory, but I am not comfortable with Hoilett's reasons for coming with us. Don't see him as having a passion for the club.
I think you are living in the wrong era if you're expecting players to sign for clubs because of passion.
They are employees, Gramps, and they go where they feel their services are going to be best recompensed. By and large, once they've signed they will give their all for the club but they don't often sign because they have a burning desire to play for the certain team that bids for them.
The days of Brian Clough taking players out for a fish and chip meal and then asking them if they want to play for Forest or not are long gone now.
Yep, wouldn't disagree with that. Must confess that "the old days" comes out in me from time to time as I remember in my youth having a team who were all passionate about the club and simply did not want to play anywhere else. Many were "Bush" born and bred. So I plead guilty but it's the old dog and new tricks syndrome. Totally different game and work ethic now.
Agreed with football vein the multi national game it is now we can't expect every player to love the club, however what we can expect as fans is that every players puts in 100% whenever they play in the mighty hoops. To be fair to the lad I think hoilett will do that for us and with his and park Ji signing we have really stated our ambition. Now let's go get Chris Samba and then I'll be really excited!
Bit of both, Rory, but I am not comfortable with Hoilett's reasons for coming with us. Don't see him as having a passion for the club.
I think you are living in the wrong era if you're expecting players to sign for clubs because of passion.
They are employees, Gramps, and they go where they feel their services are going to be best recompensed. By and large, once they've signed they will give their all for the club but they don't often sign because they have a burning desire to play for the certain team that bids for them.
The days of Brian Clough taking players out for a fish and chip meal and then asking them if they want to play for Forest or not are long gone now.
Your flattering Gramps nomar.He remembers the days when players would play a match after a fish and chip supper ( ok then .not that bad but deffinately after a full English breakfast.) And they all smoked 40 players a day..They even had ash trays on the corner flags back then...
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