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Post by Macmoish on Jul 7, 2012 10:48:28 GMT
But wait...! West London Sport/Dave McIntyre Rangers to make announcement on new stadium within weeks QPR are expected to reveal plans for a new stadium in the coming weeks. The club have been looking at a number of possible sites to move to and believe they are close to a breakthrough. An announcement could be made before the start of the new season, confirming that Rangers are to leave Loftus Road, which has been their home for the best part of 95 years. Relocation is key to the ambitious long-term plans of the Tony Fernandes-led regime – as is the imminent signing of Korean star Park Ji-sung from Manchester United. Rangers have scheduled a press conference for Monday to unveil Park and not, as has been widely suggested, to discuss their stadium plans. www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/rangers-to-make-announcement6-on-new91-stadium-within-weeks/
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Post by eusebio13 on Jul 7, 2012 10:51:06 GMT
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jul 7, 2012 11:07:44 GMT
Sorry but I highly doubt they would have Beard, Bhatia, Fernandes and Hughes at a press conference being held at a hired location just to announce a new signing.
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Post by scarletpimple on Jul 7, 2012 11:10:42 GMT
If it is to announce park, The conference has been well pre-empted, unless its more than one player of which no one knows about.
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 7, 2012 11:11:39 GMT
Sorry but I highly doubt they would have Beard, Bhatia, Fernandes and Hughes at a press conference being held at a hired location just to announce a new signing. Going to announce they're renaming the club "London Park Rangers"
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 7, 2012 11:29:31 GMT
Simon Peach @simonpeach Day off? Pah. Update on #QPR's stadium hunt coming up shortly.
Simon Peach @simonpeach
#QPR's major announcement on Monday will be the unveiling of #MUFC's Park Ji-sung & not about a new stadium. That will come after Asian tour
QPR will reveal plans for a new 35,000-seater stadium within weeks, I can reveal. Drawings are at an advanced stage & progressing
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Post by Bushman on Jul 7, 2012 11:32:45 GMT
Sorry girls, never saw or heard of jim planning that Memory goes when you get to your age sweetheart.
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Post by obk on Jul 7, 2012 11:37:35 GMT
What did I tell you? I wouldn't be at all surprised if signing an asian star player (which he is) is what the owners consider "going global brand".
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 7, 2012 11:38:34 GMT
"We Are The Hype Boys...Tweet and make some Noise!"
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Post by ozzh00p on Jul 7, 2012 11:42:51 GMT
Tweeting the modern day Chinese whispers...
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Post by scarletpimple on Jul 7, 2012 12:38:50 GMT
Sorry girls, never saw or heard of jim planning that Memory goes when you get to your age sweetheart. Up yours sweetie pie..............
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Post by haqpr1963 on Jul 7, 2012 12:51:00 GMT
What did I tell you? I wouldn't be at all surprised if signing an asian star player (which he is) is what the owners consider "going global brand". If we have all our new signings. Green - Johnson : Europe Fabio : South America Diakite : Africa Nelson : Oceania Park : Asia All we need now is Hoillet : North America Pingu : Antarctica Sounds pretty global to me....... ;D
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Post by Marc on Jul 7, 2012 13:10:24 GMT
What did I tell you? I wouldn't be at all surprised if signing an asian star player (which he is) is what the owners consider "going global brand". If we have all our new signings. Green - Johnson : Europe Fabio : South America Diakite : Africa Nelson : Oceania Park : Asia All we need now is Hoillet : North America Pingu : Antarctica Sounds pretty global to me....... ;D Yay, Pingu! Get him signed although I'm not so sure he's that good on the wing. *coat on*
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Post by ingham on Jul 7, 2012 13:15:59 GMT
Cheap, too. They can't buy the rubbish players we have now without running up enormous losses, but there's £180 million for a new 'global brand'.
It's the shirts, of course. And the badge. Once supporters round the world realise they can support 35,000 capacity QPR instead of 76,000 capacity Man Utd or Barca or Real, those bigger grounds will be empty, not to mention India, China and the Philippines, which will become depopulated.
A question. How will we squeeze the 16,000 in? One end. Or a few scattered about here and there, like the old White City.
Sounds like rubbish to me.
It's always difficult to decode the ever changing garbage that comes out of investors' mouths - what happened to the 45,000 of a few months ago? - but it may just be code for shunting us into Craven Cottage - accompanied by all the big talk that Fayed gave the world about Fulham competing directly with Real Madrid and Manchester United in a 36,000 capacity ground which never materialised - surprise, surprise - and then demolish LR and sell it off.
That's a clear cash profit. Money for nothing, which is usually what football clubs are capable of, nothing.
If Clubs like Arsenal with nationwide and even worldwide support play in grounds which are barely more than twice the size of this thing - United a little more, Arsenal a LOT less than double QPR's new giant ground - they've left something out of the equation (apart from the talent you need to make it work).
And 35,000 is only 10,000 short of Arsenal, when they were winning titles, Chelsea, and Manchester City. All Clubs with FAR bigger support than ours. All Premiership title winners.
If a ground more than double the average attendance will work for us, why won't it work for them? Why haven't they built MUCH bigger grounds.
One reason is rather embarrassing. City and Chelsea spent £1 billion winning the title.
QPR could have done that. Never mind the Ground, pay the wages, sign the players, appoint the manager. Make enough money available and the title would be ours.
Funny how Mittal's name gets dropped around all the time, because he has at least as much money as Abramovich, but QPR never sees the money.
I know. They prefer not to win anything too soon. Years of failure will prove more impressive than simply buying the title outright. The longer you wait, the less successful you are, and that is the measure of their 'ambition', I assume.
Still, Jim Gregory regularly packed in 35,000. Or was it 45,000? I can't remember now. He could take this lot with one hand behind his back, managed three Wembley finals, one Title near-miss, and several promotions, had all that relative success - built the three best sides we ever had ...
... yet the Rs support never changed. We were getting bigger attendances in the 1940s than we did in Gregory's time and we never got higher than the bottom half of the second tier then.
So £180 million? Yeah, right.
No talent, no know-how, no experience, no track record? Doesn't matter. Just talk about a bigger ground. Throw in the word 'ambition', and it's practically as good as winning things.
Why didn't Ferguson realise there was an easier way? He did, and all the losers take it, every time. Keeps him winning and them losing.
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Post by Bushman on Jul 7, 2012 13:19:41 GMT
Memory goes when you get to your age sweetheart. Up yours sweetie pie.............. Surprised you can remember where it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 13:33:34 GMT
The type of stadium being planned and capacity sounds perfect for the future of the club to me
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Post by Jon Doeman on Jul 7, 2012 13:41:25 GMT
Ingham, you're an old cynic!
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Post by scarletpimple on Jul 7, 2012 13:42:47 GMT
Up yours sweetie pie.............. Surprised you can remember where it is. I hope i dont know where yours is......................
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Post by Markqpr on Jul 7, 2012 13:42:57 GMT
Cheap, too. They can't buy the rubbish players we have now without running up enormous losses, but there's £180 million for a new 'global brand'. It's the shirts, of course. And the badge. Once supporters round the world realise they can support 35,000 capacity QPR instead of 76,000 capacity Man Utd or Barca or Real, those bigger grounds will be empty, not to mention India, China and the Philippines, which will become depopulated. A question. How will we squeeze the 16,000 in? One end. Or a few scattered about here and there, like the old White City. Sounds like rubbish to me. It's always difficult to decode the ever changing garbage that comes out of investors' mouths - what happened to the 45,000 of a few months ago? - but it may just be code for shunting us into Craven Cottage - accompanied by all the big talk that Fayed gave the world about Fulham competing directly with Real Madrid and Manchester United in a 36,000 capacity ground which never materialised - surprise, surprise - and then demolish LR and sell it off. That's a clear cash profit. Money for nothing, which is usually what football clubs are capable of, nothing. If Clubs like Arsenal with nationwide and even worldwide support play in grounds which are barely more than twice the size of this thing - United a little more, Arsenal a LOT less than double QPR's new giant ground - they've left something out of the equation (apart from the talent you need to make it work). And 35,000 is only 10,000 short of Arsenal, when they were winning titles, Chelsea, and Manchester City. All Clubs with FAR bigger support than ours. All Premiership title winners. If a ground more than double the average attendance will work for us, why won't it work for them? Why haven't they built MUCH bigger grounds. One reason is rather embarrassing. City and Chelsea spent £1 billion winning the title. QPR could have done that. Never mind the Ground, pay the wages, sign the players, appoint the manager. Make enough money available and the title would be ours. Funny how Mittal's name gets dropped around all the time, because he has at least as much money as Abramovich, but QPR never sees the money. I know. They prefer not to win anything too soon. Years of failure will prove more impressive than simply buying the title outright. The longer you wait, the less successful you are, and that is the measure of their 'ambition', I assume. Still, Jim Gregory regularly packed in 35,000. Or was it 45,000? I can't remember now. He could take this lot with one hand behind his back, managed three Wembley finals, one Title near-miss, and several promotions, had all that relative success - built the three best sides we ever had ... ... yet the Rs support never changed. We were getting bigger attendances in the 1940s than we did in Gregory's time and we never got higher than the bottom half of the second tier then. So £180 million? Yeah, right. No talent, no know-how, no experience, no track record? Doesn't matter. Just talk about a bigger ground. Throw in the word 'ambition', and it's practically as good as winning things. Why didn't Ferguson realise there was an easier way? He did, and all the losers take it, every time. Keeps him winning and them losing. Judging by the reactions of most to your posts, I can see why Cassandra called it a curse.
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Post by Bushman on Jul 7, 2012 13:53:02 GMT
Surprised you can remember where it is. I hope i dont know where yours is...................... ;D
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 7, 2012 13:53:38 GMT
In this case, don't think it's going to happen Ingham, but put it this way: If Fernandes screws us.... As Joe Louis said:
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Post by Jo-Onenil on Jul 7, 2012 13:57:29 GMT
I don't know why there is always paranoïa around QPR that someone will want to move us to Craven Cottage. Fernandes made it clear he didn't want a groundshare, and a move to the 26k seats Cottage would not be as profitable as a move to a 35k multi-use stadium.
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 7, 2012 14:07:31 GMT
I guess the counter-argument is that too many Chairmen have screwed too many clubs too many times, not to be sceptical, cautious, etc.
I don't think this is the case on this occasion. But I certainly 100% believe that we should always ask questions; always be skeptical and never give just carte blanche to owners. (Although of course since they are owners, one is rather limited!)
For every Ingham (or Macmoish) there are 100 Fans who swoon over owners. They did initially with Flavio and Bernie. They did with GIANNNI "He saved the Club" Paladini....And at so many other clubs: The Owners come in making promises, etc.
But again in THIS case, I believe.
But I also adhere to the Russian Proverb, "Doveryay, no proveryay"
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Post by Jo-Onenil on Jul 7, 2012 15:00:15 GMT
I agree with you Mac, we should not trust blindly the owner at the start, as we did with Gianni and with Flavio. BUT I think Tony has already proven by acts and not only by words that he wanted to respect the identity of the club and that he would listen to what the fans have to say. He's been in charge for almost a year now, and If you count all the decisions he's made so far, he's had so many more of them right than wrong. Even sacking Warnock proved to be a good decision at the end of the day, even though most of us were against it at the beginning. Good decisions: - New training ground - New academy - Change of manager - Plans for our own new stadium - Fantastic new players brought in with his money (Cissé, Diakité...) - Good communication with the fans and with him, we always quite know where we stand - Ticket prices Bad decisions: - This year's kit is not the best - Change of manager (maybe some will say it was a mistake but I can't see why?) - ?? I really feel we've seen enough of Tony Fernandes' intentions to trust him. Maybe the years will prove me wrong, I don't know, but this guy is passionate about QPR, and is not afraid to invest. He respects the fans, and wants success. Really, so far, Tony has been a blessing. Look back at when we where under Flavio's regime and compare it with now. We're in good hands.
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Post by cpr on Jul 7, 2012 15:10:25 GMT
Anyone see the interview with Fernandes on Sky prior to the F1 qualifying?
I did, gotta love him! ;D
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Post by cpr on Jul 7, 2012 15:12:30 GMT
Bhatia talking on SSN now!!!
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Post by scarletpimple on Jul 7, 2012 15:17:45 GMT
Bhatia talking on SSN now!!! Whats he say baz, whats he say baz, whats he say baz...........I'm going loopy.
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Post by Jo-Onenil on Jul 7, 2012 15:18:57 GMT
I saw it CPR. And Birchy said on Talksports there could be a couple of marquee signings. Park and
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jul 7, 2012 15:23:58 GMT
I agree with you Mac, we should not trust blindly the owner at the start, as we did with Gianni and with Flavio. BUT I think Tony has already proven by acts and not only by words that he wanted to respect the identity of the club and that he would listen to what the fans have to say. He's been in charge for almost a year now, and If you count all the decisions he's made so far, he's had so many more of them right than wrong. Even sacking Warnock proved to be a good decision at the end of the day, even though most of us were against it at the beginning. Good decisions: - New training ground - New academy - Change of manager - Plans for our own new stadium - Fantastic new players brought in with his money (Cissé, Diakité...) - Good communication with the fans and with him, we always quite know where we stand - Ticket prices Bad decisions: - This year's kit is not the best - Change of manager (maybe some will say it was a mistake but I can't see why?) - ?? I really feel we've seen enough of Tony Fernandes' intentions to trust him. Maybe the years will prove me wrong, I don't know, but this guy is passionate about QPR, and is not afraid to invest. He respects the fans, and wants success. Really, so far, Tony has been a blessing. Look back at when we where under Flavio's regime and compare it with now. We're in good hands. You can take the kits out of the bad decisions, he doesn't have a choice over those. we get whatever Lotto give us. Also sacking Warnock has proved to be a good decision.
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Post by cpr on Jul 7, 2012 15:25:31 GMT
He said he coudln't say but tune in on Monday! Update on new stadium plans, players, far east tour and plans to reach into that area, as both him and Tony are native to there. He also winked and told me he was slinging half a mill tax free my way. ;D
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