2 Yr Ago: "NEIL WARNOCK QPR JOB IN DOUBT"

[eusebio13]

Some will be pleased to read, I'm content to believe that its the Daily Star

www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/228570/Neil-Warnock-QPR-job-in-doubt/?

QPR owner Tony Fernandes is ready to block a January spending spree – amid doubts over Neil Warnock’s future as manager.

Neil Warnock had wanted £20m to splash out on new signings during the transfer window to help the club climb away from relegation trouble.

But Malaysian business tycoon Fernandes now has reservatons over whether Warnock is the right man to lead QPR, and over his record in the transfer market.

Fernandes gave Warnock the green light to spend big after completing his Rangers takeover with less than two weeks of the summer window left.

Warnock brought in Joey Barton, Shaun Wright-Phillips and Anton Ferdinand as he pulled off a string of dramatic late swoops. But results have been less than impressive.

Rangers have picked up just 17 points and sit one place outside the Premier League drop zone.

They have been dragged into the relegation scrap after an alarming slump of five points from their last 10 games.

And there are now growing doubts at Loftus Road about whether throwing more money at their problems is the solution – and whether Warnock is the right man to spend whatever funds are available.

Instead, he could be told he is only allowed to bring in short-term signings like striker Federico Macheda, who Warnock borrowed from Manchester United this week.

Starsport understands the Rangers board might soften their stance if Warnock suggests a player they think will be more than a short-term fix.

Manchester City outcast Nedum Onuoha, 25, falls into that category.

Warnock flew to Manchester on Tuesday to try and tie up a £4m deal for the defender.

The concerns held by the board over progress under Warnock this season will place a question mark over his long-term future.

Meanwhile, Rangers midfielder Barton will serve a three-match ban after having his appeal against his red card
against Norwich dismissed by the FA.

[powerpump]

Yes, well need to ask:

Since our promotion have we made a decent signing? And if not or few, then who is to blame?

[FloridaR]

Give the money to someone else ! Warnocks had his time and now its time to get in a top level manager to keep the R's up.

[nomar]

If this is correct then Fernandes has risen 1000% in my estimation.

I was wondering how long a guy as savvy as him could sit back and watch the last 11 games and not have some reservations about whether he actually did have the right man at the helm.

[londonranger]

To avoid my having a Brief reactive Psychosis I have nothing more to say on this matter.

[alfaranger]

Jan 5, 2012 1:09:38 GMT powerpump said:

Yes, well need to ask:

Since our promotion have we made a decent signing? And if not or few, then who is to blame?

He had 8 days to buy from shops that were empty!

[FloridaR]

nomar (brother) : ) I think he's savvy enough to realize that Warnock + Curle stand to lose him 10's of millions pounds...

[FloridaR]

Jan 5, 2012 1:19:56 GMT londonranger said:

To avoid my having a Brief reactive Psychosis I have nothing more to say on this matter.

i dont see why Warnock should be immune to abuse

[nomar]

Jan 5, 2012 1:25:37 GMT alfaranger said:

Jan 5, 2012 1:09:38 GMT powerpump said:

Yes, well need to ask:

Since our promotion have we made a decent signing? And if not or few, then who is to blame?

He had 8 days to buy from shops that were empty!

Bullcrap excuse.

He bought an ex England International, 2 good experienced defenders and Joey Barton who was considered the best signing of the lot. That's 4 proven Premier League talents right there buddy.

He's had 17 games now to work with them. I challenge, nay, dare you to prove to me and everyone else on here that he has bought the best out of any of them or even played most of them in their proper positions.

Sometimes you have to ask awkward questions in life and the answers you get are not always going to be what you want to hear. But the truth hurts sometimes.

The truth is that there are genuine concerns that the man is out of his depth at this level and the spreadsheet of results suggests very strongly that that is the case.

[alfaranger]

Jan 5, 2012 1:47:16 GMT nomar said:

Jan 5, 2012 1:25:37 GMT alfaranger said:

He had 8 days to buy from shops that were empty!

Bullcrap excuse.

He bought an ex England International, 2 good experienced defenders and Joey Barton who was considered the best signing of the lot. That's 4 proven Premier League talents right there buddy.

He's had 17 games now to work with them. I challenge, nay, dare you to prove to me and everyone else on here that he has bought the best out of any of them or even played most of them in their proper positions.

Sometimes you have to ask awkward questions in life and the answers you get are not always going to be what you want to hear. But the truth hurts sometimes.

The truth is that there are genuine concerns that the man is out of his depth at this level and the spreadsheet of results suggests very strongly that that is the case.

All of the players were available throughout all of the transfer window. I expect no one else wanted them. When Warnock had funds available they were all that was left that could be afforded.
The ex England international wasnt getting games at Man City and wasnt going to either. You have a good point about his position. Ferdinand was an out of favour CB and is playing CB. Traore had been dropped by the Arse, played left back (ish) and thats where he's playing now. Luke Young was a back for AV and thats where he is playing now. Barton, well, a whole subject by himself-rejected by Newcastle, not taken up by anyone else, again the only one left. Midfielder and plays in that position. Panic buying with not a lot of time for aforethought, maybe, but it was that or the old team. Would he have bought these players if he'd have had the whole window? Who knows-probably not.

I have no problem with awkward questions and I am not an apologist for NW and I, like you want to see our team stay up. I think though that this month is the turning point not before the transfer window. Just a difference in direction not in our ultimate goal.

[cpr]

That story is utter tosh made up from mb opinions, not a fact in sight.

It's too late to get rid of him and doing so would only destabilse us further.

[nomar]

My guess is that he'll stay and they'll hope like hell that he keep us up.

My guess is also that by next Sunday there will no longer be 3 teams mathematically and positionally worse than us in the league anymore. And then they will really need to start asking very serious questions.

However, I wonder whether they are already starting to have doubts that he's the right man for their long term plans.

[cpr]

Agree with that nomar, it's too late now but regardless he'll be gone in the summer methinks.

Unless of course we rally with new players and finish midtable.

[Deleted]

Maybe Tony Fernandes needs to give Warnock a dreaded vote of confidence

[RoryTheRanger]

This would be the worse possible timing to bring in a new manager. If we were going to sack Warnock the best time to do it would have been pretty much the same time that Sunderland sacked Bruce. They saw the signs early and acted on it, which worked out very well for them. I'm not saying Warnock should have been sacked a month ago but he does needs to change something and change it fast.

[nomar]

If he's genuinely the wrong man for the job then there is never such a thing as too late to change him.

In fact, I would argue that, if you genuinely believe he's not the right man for the job then the worst thing you can do is actually just keep hold of him.

The longer he stays the less chance you have to put things right.

If he went now at least a new manager would have 4 weeks and some change to be able to bring in his kind of players. He'd have the backing of Fernandes and Mittal to buy new players so we'd be able to attract a good quality manager.

As ex professionals will tell you though, sometimes all it needs is a new voice in the dressing room and someone with fresh ideas to snap a team out of a rut like this and get them playing again.

I'm with Kylie here, that it's never too late. Its not too late to save our season.

[Macmoish]

I don't want to replace him...BUT if he is to be replaced, it has to be someone for long term...And as we went on another thread, where would we find this long-term manager, now mid season, etc.


(LONG-term was anyway never a Warnock option. But pre-season, I believed when the Briatore-wants-Warnock-out stories were there, that Warnock was our best option for staying up this season. NOT that he was a great Premiership manager, but that he brought more to the existing squad than changing him would. (Especially with a Briatore appointee.) And that stability was an important thing.

[Macmoish]

Will be interesting to see if Fernandes (or Beard or Bhatia) tweet on this story. Say complete nonsense. Warnock's our manager, etc.
Or if stay silent, which would feed the matter

[Zamoraaaah]

IWWT.

[maudesfishnchips]

' our main objective is to secure premiership status, and we (the board) will do every thing in our power to achieve this'

philip beard last night.

[Sabas]

Jan 5, 2012 1:16:07 GMT nomar said:

If this is correct then Fernandes has risen 1000% in my estimation.

I was wondering how long a guy as savvy as him could sit back and watch the last 11 games and not have some reservations about whether he actually did have the right man at the helm.

And why do you think he didn't/doesn't?

[eastactonion]

If Warnock was to go, can he take £80,OOO a week Barton with him !

[maudesfishnchips]

i want warnock to stay, but i get a feeling that this board at as jolly as they make out.

they are proper business men

[jjqpr]

I think everyone wants/wanted things to work out with warnock, we've all warmed to him after initial doubts over his appointment and he's certainly a character. I just don't think he's got it in him to turn this around, the players do not seem "bothered" enough to really fight, and it is NW that should be installing that in to them so the buck has to stop with him really. Though would be nice to see one or 2 players show SOME initiative!!

[kentucky]

Cant believe the level of anti NW comment here. I am not saying he is the worlds best but after a period where we had more managers than games, he came in and got us promoted in some style. He then only had the last few weeks of pre season to get us a Premiership team with only the dregs left.
How soon we forget, I do think on the basis of what he has done for us we owe him a chance this season, we only have to do better that 3 teams, we need a few players and a change of form its not over yet.

[Sabas]

Jan 5, 2012 9:14:25 GMT @maudesfishnchips said:

' our main objective is to secure premiership status, and we (the board) will do every thing in our power to achieve this'

philip beard last night.

That's not what Warnock wants to hear, one would suppose.

But they can't just do nothing and watch their club/business going down.

I think it's more simple than that: we have a nice fixture list and if we don't start picking points with the 'beatable' Newcastle, Wigan, Villa and Wolves (if we don't get at least 4pts)--and after these games end up in the relegation zone... then I'm certain Warnock will go. And, probably, rightly so.

Maybe it's not him. Maybe it's 'bad luck'. But you have to change your luck, too, sometimes--by changing the manager. Fernandes is rich, but not rich enough to go down trusting the beloved Warnock.

[kempton ranger]

Kentucky I could not agree more, well said. Also let's not forget that NW saved us from relegation after the Paul Hart saga. I agree he should remain until the end of this season, then take a fresh look at things. I believe we will finish above at least three teams.

[Macmoish]

I actually think we'll go down. But I'm still sticking with Warnock!

[Markqpr]

Jan 5, 2012 9:14:25 GMT @maudesfishnchips said:

' our main objective is to secure premiership status, and we (the board) will do every thing in our power to achieve this'

philip beard last night.

Not the long term future of the club then?

Will the money needed to sustain the current squad's Premiership status come in the form of actual investment or more Director's loans?

I know it's important for Fernandes to secure Premiership status for the marketing purposes of his airlines but is that more important than the long term stability of the club and achieving self-sustaining Premiership status?

I don't see how that can be achieved with our revenues against our outgoings in the immediate future.

I trust in Fernandes and Beard and understand that they wouldn't want their competitors to know their plans for taking the business forward so they wouldn't be able to publicly answer most questions about their actual plans for the future, but I do get nervous when I see statements like that as they are echoes of what was said elsewhere before and whilst some clubs have notably achieved it or are reaching that goal, though they had far better foundations on which to base it, including stadiums, training facilities and youth setups, others like us didn't and are still paying for the Premiership experience years later, in the lower leagues, resulting in a much longer timeframe needed to get back.

[kilburnhoop]

Wrong time to bring in a new a manager? Martin oneil hasnt done too bad!!!