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Post by cpr on Jan 2, 2012 22:30:45 GMT
That's no good maude, so did I Although I moved to left back as I got older and wiser. Played as a sweeper for a while, it was all the rage then! ;D
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 2, 2012 22:42:05 GMT
I was right back !like Luke
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 2, 2012 22:45:26 GMT
I played centre midfield (enforcer)
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 2, 2012 22:50:33 GMT
were getting there boys! so far..... harlow, right back. cpr, left back eusebio, midfield general maude ,left wing.(making this position mine cpr cos i said it first) anymore?
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 2, 2012 22:54:05 GMT
were getting there boys! so far..... harlow, right back. cpr, left back eusebio, midfield general maude ,left wing.(making this position mine cpr cos i said it first) anymore? general my arse I just liked to kick people
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Post by Bushman on Jan 2, 2012 23:02:22 GMT
18 years central defender.
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 2, 2012 23:07:33 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 2, 2012 23:10:08 GMT
KLR on the Right Wing? ;D
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 2, 2012 23:11:34 GMT
KLR on the Right Wing? ;D ;D wet pants
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 2, 2012 23:14:00 GMT
KLR on the Right Wing? ;D very good
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Post by superckat on Jan 2, 2012 23:34:58 GMT
We are playing in the hardest league in the world. Teams aren't just going to lie down and let us win. We have to work a lot harder for victories than we did last season. Warnock deserves a full season. Has he made mistakes. Yes he has. I will admit he frustrates the hell out of me with some of his decisions. But I'm not convinced we will be relegated. Barton getting sent off, cost us today. Not much NW could do about that.
I read comments criticising NW for not playing Adel sooner. There are a lot of short memories, as Adel was probably the worst player on the pitch in the last couple of games, before he was dropped . His attitude was all wrong. He has returned the last few games and looks a different player. So I would say that NW got that one right.
There has also been criticism of some of the players that we signed. Puncheon. Dyer and Perone are bad signings. No argument there. But look at the rest. Traore, SWP, Barton, Young, Bothroyd, Campbell, Ferdinand, Gabbidon. They aren't bad players and looking at those names. I'm sure the majority of fans would say they have improved the squad not worsened it. It's not working at the moment and to be honest NW does seem to be struggling. Is he struggling because he doesn't really have the players that he wanted, to play the system he wants. Looking at that list, I wonder how many of those players would be here now if Fernandes arrived in May and NW had the funds to bring in the players he wanted then. We could be looking at different set of players. He has the chance to correct things in this transfer window and I think he will as I don't believe the squad is that bad and is good enough to keep us up. But as I said earlier teams aren't going to lie down for us and we haven't done that either. It was always going to be a tough season and nothing has changed on that front.
If you look at our last 8 matches. 2 points from 24. 6 defeats. With exception of 2-0 against Man Utd we have only lost by the odd game. In the other 5 defeats 2 of them we conceded goals late on. One of them (todays game), we were down to 10 men and in the and in 2 of the the other games we lost 1-0 away to Liverpool and Arsenal with goals scored by Suarez and Van Persie. So although things aren't great at the moment. I don't think that it's as bad as some are saying. Warnock has made mistakes, but I believe he can put it right and definitely thinks he should be given the chance to do so.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 2, 2012 23:39:38 GMT
We are playing in the hardest league in the world. Teams aren't just going to lie down and let us win. We have to work a lot harder for victories than we did last season. Warnock deserves a full season. Has he made mistakes. Yes he has. I will admit he frustrates the hell out of me with some of his decisions. But I'm not convinced we will be relegated. Barton getting sent off, cost us today. Not much NW could do about that. I read comments criticising NW for not playing Adel sooner. There are a lot of short memories, as Adel was probably the worst player on the pitch in the last couple of games, before he was dropped . His attitude was all wrong. He has returned the last few games and looks a different player. So I would say that NW got that one right. There has also been criticism of some of the players that we signed. Puncheon. Dyer and Perone are bad signings. No argument there. But look at the rest. Traore, SWP, Barton, Young, Bothroyd, Campbell, Ferdinand, Gabbidon. They aren't bad players and looking at those names. I'm sure the majority of fans would say they have improved the squad not worsened it. It's not working at the moment and to be honest NW does seem to be struggling. Is he struggling because he doesn't really have the players that he wanted, to play the system he wants. Looking at that list, I wonder how many of those players would be here now if Fernandes arrived in May and NW had the funds to bring in the players he wanted then. We could be looking at different set of players. He has the chance to correct things in this transfer window and I think he will as I don't believe the squad is that bad and is good enough to keep us up. But as I said earlier teams aren't going to lie down for us and we haven't done that either. It was always going to be a tough season and nothing has changed on that front. If you look at our last 8 matches. 2 points from 24. 6 defeats. With exception of 2-0 against Man Utd we have only lost by the odd game. In the other 5 defeats 2 of them we conceded goals late on. One of them (todays game), we were down to 10 men and in the and in 2 of the the other games we lost 1-0 away to Liverpool and Arsenal with goals scored by Suarez and Van Persie. So although things aren't great at the moment. I don't think that it's as bad as some are saying. Warnock has made mistakes, but I believe he can put it right and definitely thinks he should be given the chance to do so. very wise ckat but what position do you play
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 2, 2012 23:46:45 GMT
We are playing in the hardest league in the world. Teams aren't just going to lie down and let us win. We have to work a lot harder for victories than we did last season. Warnock deserves a full season. Has he made mistakes. Yes he has. I will admit he frustrates the hell out of me with some of his decisions. But I'm not convinced we will be relegated. Barton getting sent off, cost us today. Not much NW could do about that. I read comments criticising NW for not playing Adel sooner. There are a lot of short memories, as Adel was probably the worst player on the pitch in the last couple of games, before he was dropped . His attitude was all wrong. He has returned the last few games and looks a different player. So I would say that NW got that one right. There has also been criticism of some of the players that we signed. Puncheon. Dyer and Perone are bad signings. No argument there. But look at the rest. Traore, SWP, Barton, Young, Bothroyd, Campbell, Ferdinand, Gabbidon. They aren't bad players and looking at those names. I'm sure the majority of fans would say they have improved the squad not worsened it. It's not working at the moment and to be honest NW does seem to be struggling. Is he struggling because he doesn't really have the players that he wanted, to play the system he wants. Looking at that list, I wonder how many of those players would be here now if Fernandes arrived in May and NW had the funds to bring in the players he wanted then. We could be looking at different set of players. He has the chance to correct things in this transfer window and I think he will as I don't believe the squad is that bad and is good enough to keep us up. But as I said earlier teams aren't going to lie down for us and we haven't done that either. It was always going to be a tough season and nothing has changed on that front. If you look at our last 8 matches. 2 points from 24. 6 defeats. With exception of 2-0 against Man Utd we have only lost by the odd game. In the other 5 defeats 2 of them we conceded goals late on. One of them (todays game), we were down to 10 men and in the and in 2 of the the other games we lost 1-0 away to Liverpool and Arsenal with goals scored by Suarez and Van Persie. So although things aren't great at the moment. I don't think that it's as bad as some are saying. Warnock has made mistakes, but I believe he can put it right and definitely thinks he should be given the chance to do so. very wise ckat but what position do you play great post, and sums my thoughts up to. but as eus says, what position do you play superc? need to get this team sorted quickly as some seem to think we should get rid of the lot, a starting 11 is needed for the wimbles
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Post by superckat on Jan 2, 2012 23:51:13 GMT
We are playing in the hardest league in the world. Teams aren't just going to lie down and let us win. We have to work a lot harder for victories than we did last season. Warnock deserves a full season. Has he made mistakes. Yes he has. I will admit he frustrates the hell out of me with some of his decisions. But I'm not convinced we will be relegated. Barton getting sent off, cost us today. Not much NW could do about that. I read comments criticising NW for not playing Adel sooner. There are a lot of short memories, as Adel was probably the worst player on the pitch in the last couple of games, before he was dropped . His attitude was all wrong. He has returned the last few games and looks a different player. So I would say that NW got that one right. There has also been criticism of some of the players that we signed. Puncheon. Dyer and Perone are bad signings. No argument there. But look at the rest. Traore, SWP, Barton, Young, Bothroyd, Campbell, Ferdinand, Gabbidon. They aren't bad players and looking at those names. I'm sure the majority of fans would say they have improved the squad not worsened it. It's not working at the moment and to be honest NW does seem to be struggling. Is he struggling because he doesn't really have the players that he wanted, to play the system he wants. Looking at that list, I wonder how many of those players would be here now if Fernandes arrived in May and NW had the funds to bring in the players he wanted then. We could be looking at different set of players. He has the chance to correct things in this transfer window and I think he will as I don't believe the squad is that bad and is good enough to keep us up. But as I said earlier teams aren't going to lie down for us and we haven't done that either. It was always going to be a tough season and nothing has changed on that front. If you look at our last 8 matches. 2 points from 24. 6 defeats. With exception of 2-0 against Man Utd we have only lost by the odd game. In the other 5 defeats 2 of them we conceded goals late on. One of them (todays game), we were down to 10 men and in the and in 2 of the the other games we lost 1-0 away to Liverpool and Arsenal with goals scored by Suarez and Van Persie. So although things aren't great at the moment. I don't think that it's as bad as some are saying. Warnock has made mistakes, but I believe he can put it right and definitely thinks he should be given the chance to do so. very wise ckat but what position do you play LOL. I played right wing, right back, right side of central midifeld. I was a bit of s SWP I'm afraid. lots of pace bags of energy, but my crossing was poor. but did bang in afew goals. In school I even played in goal for a season and was watched by the Hackney district scouting team. But I hated it in goal.
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Post by dsqpr on Jan 2, 2012 23:53:51 GMT
I'm going to have to agree with LR. I was on the fence but this last result has swayed me. If NW stays in charge for the rest of the season we are going down. I am now convinced of it. NW simply isn't up to the task. He looks like a deer in the headlights - a man who has completely lost the plot. RVP is a dirty player? Come on!
If we bring somebody in then they at least have half a season to save us. Sunderland did a great bit of business brining in Martin O'Neil and they will be fine now. Without spending any time thinking through the candidates, my first thought would be Alan Curbishley, who kept Charlton in this division for many seasons. But we need a change and we need it now.
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Post by dsqpr on Jan 2, 2012 23:57:46 GMT
You can put me down as the "gritty" Centre Back. I'm 6'5" and over 15 stone but a bit challenged in the skill department (so I won't be the sweeper!)
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Post by auburnqpr on Jan 3, 2012 0:04:22 GMT
Dont need to sack him, he has not had many options lately with some injuries. We will need to see what happens after we get some players.
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Post by cpr on Jan 3, 2012 0:07:09 GMT
I'm going to have to agree with LR. I was on the fence but this last result has swayed me. If NW stays in charge for the rest of the season we are going down. I am now convinced of it. NW simply isn't up to the task. He looks like a deer in the headlights - a man who has completely lost the plot. RVP is a dirty player? Come on! If we bring somebody in then they at least have half a season to save us. Sunderland did a great bit of business brining in Martin O'Neil and they will be fine now. Without spending any time thinking through the candidates, my first thought would be Alan Curbishley, who kept Charlton in this division for many seasons. But we need a change and we need it now. Curbishley!!! lol. He took years to get them up first and has got erm how many promotions? Then how many failures after going? Come on, nobody wanting Colin to go has come up with a replacement that would have have got us promoted last season, kept us up the season before let alone keep us up this season. Anyway, what position do you play?
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Post by cpr on Jan 3, 2012 0:08:49 GMT
I'm going to have to agree with LR. I was on the fence but this last result has swayed me. If NW stays in charge for the rest of the season we are going down. I am now convinced of it. NW simply isn't up to the task. He looks like a deer in the headlights - a man who has completely lost the plot. RVP is a dirty player? Come on! If we bring somebody in then they at least have half a season to save us. Sunderland did a great bit of business brining in Martin O'Neil and they will be fine now. Without spending any time thinking through the candidates, my first thought would be Alan Curbishley, who kept Charlton in this division for many seasons. But we need a change and we need it now. Curbishley!!! lol. He took years to get them up first and has got erm how many promotions? Then how many failures after going? Come on, nobody wanting Colin to go has come up with a replacement that would have have got us promoted last season, kept us up the season before let alone keep us up this season. Anyway, what position do you play? OOPS Belay the last question, just saw your follow up. ;D
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 3, 2012 0:11:33 GMT
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Post by Marc on Jan 3, 2012 0:22:36 GMT
Well you need someone to get you goals, I was a striker in my day.
As for NW, throwing the baby out with the bath water is a phrase that springs to mid. This is not the time to panic, knee jerk reactions always do more harm than good.
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 3, 2012 0:24:46 GMT
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Post by Marc on Jan 3, 2012 0:29:10 GMT
So we need another 3.
4-4-2 or am I going to be up there on my own?
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Post by nomar on Jan 3, 2012 1:45:37 GMT
Dont need to sack him, he has not had many options lately with some injuries. We will need to see what happens after we get some players. Every one has injuries. Look at the team Blackburn sent to Old Trafford last weekend. Yet they played with passion and heart and shocked the Champions. We lie down like timid lambs. At some point, and I would think especially when you only pick up 5 pts from a possible 33, you have to stop looking at excuses and start asking some serious questions about the person in charge of your club.
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Post by londonranger on Jan 3, 2012 2:24:59 GMT
Very many posters have given very sensible reasons why Warnock should be bade adieu. I have also done that. By the way to Maude, that was a head butt. I saw the thing twice and it was both times. Not perhaps the most vigorous of one but an obvious attempt to knock him back if only slightly its an attemprt to injure and any mild concussive force can do serious post knock delirium or more.
Again, Warnock brought us up with a strong side and in brilliant fashion with a Kenny, Taraabt, Adel and Faurlein.
Yes he was the manager who should lead us through prem. But football is more than an emotional game, an Auld Lang Syne game. Its results. RESULTS that keep managers jobs in sports. Warnock cant get them, so those that are quite satisfied please explain what satiffies them.
Allowing Adel Taraabts personal needs parampunt to team, enough money, not training, having no commitment to staying nor going, not training, overweight, ,,,,,,thishas disrupted entire team front and back management. We had to buy quickly and thank god we did or we would be last now. But we had no time to see if players would blend, to really have a handle on their physical condition, one hasnt played all season another sick until 2 weeks ago, Ferdianand very injury prone, SWP really not worth what we paid. More, but hour is late. Set plays poor, little spine to team,gradual sense of not working as hard as they could and the overall effect of not being able to keep out a goal nor score one.
Warnock is a fine upstanding manager, character and hero. As he was last season but, he was super sucessful. This season he isnt and there is nothing to indicate that a few new well paid players will change much. The fact that he has talked so much about the new players coming in and how we will be alright then, is terrible strategy and quite demeaning tohis players, who go back on their heels and wonder,whats it about. A managerial change would be excellent and give us the only chance of staying up. Keith Curle too who looked like he was going to break down in tears at end of match. If the WArnock wanters go through two or more straight losses, lets see how they think then. I am prepared to eat humble pie if there is a sudden climb in table, like Sunderland who did change managers, happy to do it. Those that are sure we will go up if we change no leadership. I hope will do the same thing when we have secured relegation.
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Post by londonranger on Jan 3, 2012 2:38:06 GMT
They mention the names and the class players we brought in with solid backgrounds. Campbell isnt being given a chance!. But thats not where I want to go. Swansea, Norwich dont have these names but more results and play better than us. Yes I know, we sold off right before window so anyresulting team could look Name recognition top heavy but overpaid and performance weak. After all all these players were dumped at the last minute.
Still that isnt my point. Knowing we have this kind of a mess, a Warnock should be could be, usually is, the best type of manager to sort this BUT HE HASNT. Is everyone willing to wait as the games dwindle down to an ending which is too formidable for any team we put out. As a 70 year fan of this club, Im not. this may be the last time I ever have to see them establish in the Prem which would be a joy. Im not ready to risk it on Warnock. Yes, they have to pick the right manager, yes it will be hard, but no it cant be done, because Warnock deserves the whole season win lose or draw. Up down or sideways. First half so dire that it smells of relegation. Believe me mates, I have smelled that many times before during my waning fandom and I dont like it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 3:27:28 GMT
I would like Warnock to be given a full season, I think he deserves the chance for taking us up. Even if he does keep us up though I am not sure he is the man to take us forward next season.
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Post by qprvancouver on Jan 3, 2012 4:58:46 GMT
What a friggin let down. Its been coming for week and the signs were there early when Colin W started disparaging "tippy tappy " football. We are a pretty week team but no more so than Norwich and Swansea the difference is they have a leader the team believe in> Sure we will get some new blood in but Tony F should act and get a seasoned BPL manager in for the last 4 months. oh and tell me again.....why does Clint Hill still get a run out? Heck we're used to the pain arent we? it comes with the burden of being an R.
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 3, 2012 6:13:10 GMT
Give him the full season.He deseves that much. I recon we will just scrape by.I always predicted 17th and always said I'd be happy with that. We are still on course for 17th so ......
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Post by jayrigg on Jan 3, 2012 7:36:44 GMT
Pressures on now lads, I do respect the point of view Of lads who want change,the problem being that there has been so much instability at this club down the years that it has been a tadge embarrasing.So I am behind warnock this year come what may because I think he deserves it .There are signings I did not agree with, but the man deserves his chance,I think we will survive.
Cheers,
Jay
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