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Post by Macmoish on May 29, 2011 7:35:38 GMT
Would be interesting if someone put together the QPR Ticket prices year by year.... How much they've gone up in the past 5 and 10 years (and what's happened at comparable clubs)
Flashback: Friday, May 30, 2008 QPR Fans Condemn QPR Ticket Price Increases - Ealing Gazette/Yann Tear- Owners blasted over 'contemptuous' hikes
SEASON ticket holders who are faced with forking out 50 per cent more to watch QPR from next August have accused the club of taking their loyalty for granted.
One supporters' group website has branded the move "an absolute disgrace," saying that ordinary fans were now going to be priced out of renewing tickets.
At a time when even many Premier League clubs like Chelsea have decided to freeze tickets or peg prices to inflation, Rangers fans are being asked to pay far more.
A seat in the upper Loft End last season cost £398. Next season, it will cost £599 and some supporters are threatening to end long associations with the club rather than pay up to keep watching their team.
Rangers' price rise is the biggest in London and comes despite calls from the Government and supporters' groups to address the soaring cost of watching football. t One 40-year-old fan, who has been a season ticket holder for 13 years, told the Gazette: "I haven't renewed my ticket yet and I honestly don't know that I will.
"It's ironic that at a time when we have the richest owners we have ever had, we are now being asked to pay this huge increase - and there was not even an 'early bird' option this year to keep the cost down.
"I think we are now not far off the average cost of a Premier League season ticket and I don't think fans of any other club in the Championship are being asked to meet such an increase on demand."
Paul Finney of indyrs.co.uk, one of the club's independently-run web messageboards told the Gazette: "When the new owners talked in terms of getting to the Premier League, they didn't mention that the fans would be the ones paying for it.
"Are we there to fulfil their dreams or are they there to realise ours? Frankly, it's an absolute disgrace because they are pricing ordinary fans out of it. Our loyalty is being taken for granted and we are being treated with contempt."
Finney continued: "They have classified the ground into gold, silver and platinum areas but they have to sort out the standard of the ground if they want to justify that - not just the directors' box so Naomi Campbell and the other celebrities can watch in comfort."
Rangers say they are sensitive to the views of their fans but claim the ticket prices are in line with the club's ambitions and the top clubs in the division.
A club spokesman said: "It is the club's aim to achieve promotion to the Premier League and as such we have to generate further income to assist us in our pursuit of that goal.
"Whilst these decisions are never easy or straightforward, the club does need the continued support of the fans to help achieve that.
"It is certainly not our intention to drive away loyal fans who have supported the club through some very difficult times.
"However, whilst the new owners have invested heavily in the squad, as well as improving particular areas of the stadium, the club itself must endeavour to run more cost effectively. As a result, it is necessary for prices to increase.
"We do feel, however, that the new pricing structure has been designed to accommodate the needs of each and every QPR fan."
It is not clear yet whether season ticket sales have been affected by the price rise. Last year, 8,100 tickets were sold but the club have not disclosed how many have been sold so far.
Prices range from £450 to £699 and considering a typical price at Stamford Bridge is £790, Rangers appear close to embracing Premier League status before they are even there. * Give us your views:Sende-mails to sport@ealinggazette.co.uk Ealing Gazette
Also: The fan group QPR1st heard from QPR's De Facto, CEO, Ali Russell this week - QPR1st AGM Report. A combination of Fan Groups are meeting with Ali Russell tomorrow (May 31). See Also: Previous Club Statements re Season Tickets and: Season Tickets Hike at Rangers Sparks Outrage"
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Post by saphilip on May 29, 2011 16:46:10 GMT
Goebels couldn't have done it better.
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Post by tonyr1 on May 29, 2011 17:41:15 GMT
I find it quite hypocritical of fans who bring up the season ticket issue, that actually never get one.
It hardly effects anyone on here.
I do feel sorry for fans who cannot afford it, but often fans like a drink or a smoke. I consume 5 pints on a match day, if I knock that on the head, I'll save around £20 per game.
I can watch our QPR play the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, not a bad price to pay and I can actually watch them sober.
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Post by maudesfishnchips on May 29, 2011 17:54:56 GMT
you will soon starve i fear tony
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Post by cpr on May 29, 2011 18:21:57 GMT
I find it quite hypocritical of fans who bring up the season ticket issue, that actually never get one. It hardly effects anyone on here. I do feel sorry for fans who cannot afford it, but often fans like a drink or a smoke. I consume 5 pints on a match day, if I knock that on the head, I'll save around £20 per game. I can watch our QPR play the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, not a bad price to pay and I can actually watch them sober. You defnitely have lost it, watch Rangers sober !!!! I'll stick with the beer thanks.
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Post by Markqpr on May 29, 2011 18:46:04 GMT
I find it quite hypocritical of fans who bring up the season ticket issue, that actually never get one. It hardly effects anyone on here. I do feel sorry for fans who cannot afford it, but often fans like a drink or a smoke. I consume 5 pints on a match day, if I knock that on the head, I'll save around £20 per game. I can watch our QPR play the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, not a bad price to pay and I can actually watch them sober. It hardly effects anyone on here? Presumptuous load of rubbish. Glad to hear you will cut down on your drinking though.
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Post by Bushman on May 29, 2011 23:49:20 GMT
I find it quite hypocritical of fans who bring up the season ticket issue, that actually never get one. It hardly effects anyone on here. I do feel sorry for fans who cannot afford it, but often fans like a drink or a smoke. I consume 5 pints on a match day, if I knock that on the head, I'll save around £20 per game. I can watch our QPR play the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, not a bad price to pay and I can actually watch them sober. What an arse.
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 30, 2011 2:07:36 GMT
Mind you the only true QPR fans are those that attend 100% home and away games. The rest of us are not entitled to an opinion nor should we be acknowledged. I'm sure a great writer somewhere said that about us. Sadly Tony, if you had been reading this board properly, you will see that non local fans are so far sympathetic to fans in England and whom may or may not be current season ticket holders, it's not funny. Of course we feel for our fellow fans that are suffering financial hardship so that three morons - well two and a half men, can feel good about themselves. Oh and of course possibly subsidise Press Box seats.
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Post by haqpr1963 on May 30, 2011 7:40:03 GMT
I find it quite hypocritical of fans who bring up the season ticket issue, that actually never get one. It hardly effects anyone on here. I do feel sorry for fans who cannot afford it, but often fans like a drink or a smoke. I consume 5 pints on a match day, if I knock that on the head, I'll save around £20 per game. I can watch our QPR play the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, not a bad price to pay and I can actually watch them sober. Ah, that old chestnut again, of course none of us ever go to matches..... What a bizarre post. I assume that you were in fact being ironic, which you seem to be very good at based on one of your previous posts.... qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=21614&page=4#143663Just to clear up I'm not Pete.
He is my step-dad. I'm not into all this football politics, too busy bringing up my two daughters and can only go to games when I can.
I just love the way a few posters play the innocent, when in fact one especially is a trouble maker of the highest order behind the scenes. Bit of a dilemma now........ Which would be best for your avatar? or
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Post by finney on May 30, 2011 8:54:56 GMT
People will buy the season tickets as proved this week i do not blame people this has been a long time coming. If people think they are good value that is up too them they same people will say that next seasons price for a home shirt close to £50 is also good value and they can afford it then all good for them.
It is the people who find themselves priced out that i feel for and i know how that feels as i am one. Mine is not a protest i just can not get the money in time and if i miss that deadline then it will go up more.
We do not like the prices the hike but people will who can pay it and the numbers will be in line with the club's business plan and then they can say the figures say the fans are backing us. The spin will go into over drive. Gianni will turn up at a pub do a speach in which the tears will flow on how much he loves the club ya da ya we win a few games. Then all is ok and then come June if we stay up and please god we do then we do it all again. This lot will keep on pricing people out until they get the monaco style fan base i said from day one they want.
The hike is just pure greed and the fact many R's fans felt it could have been more money shows how we know their mindset the club have a weapon on us and that is our love for Queen's Park Rangers and they use it well. They have the best fans in the world and what they are doing to us is heartbreaking. If i had the money would i get one and give in i think i would so i do not blame anyone who gets one.
The issue i have is in the wording and the manner of the spin from the club they are treating loyal and decent fans as cash cows for their own greed for more and more money being a billionaire and cashing in on hard working fans loyality is beyond a disgrace but they have no shame. And when Gianni does that speach in a pub when the tears roll ask him how much he got in a bounus he is crying all the way to the bank.
The club will one day come back to the fans when it all goes wrong and it will be our love that saves the club again.
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Post by cpr on May 30, 2011 11:09:57 GMT
I can watch our QPR play the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, not a bad price to pay and I can actually watch them sober. Another difference to point out to you. I go to watch "our QPR" with friends and family, we usually meet up with other fans prior to the game, it's a social event that includes having a few beers and a chat. I for one would not just turn up, watch a game and go home. The most important thing for us is to watch Rangers, I have never turned up to watch the opposition, that's what opposition fans do, therefore the price for me reflects going to watch my team, not somebody elses.
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Post by cpr on May 30, 2011 11:21:36 GMT
If I had a season ticket, I would most likely renew, as I suspect the majority of fans who have season tickets will do. By hook or by crook, they'll get the money. The renewal rises are spectacular enough but if the projected new season ticket prices and matchday hikes are true then the average fan who can only afford a few games now will not be able to afford any. Season ticket holders have to pay more for the Super Hoop Upgrade just to get the chance to buy away tickets, that's the cost of another match. So what will the membership remewal price be? £50? £60? Anything is possible really.
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Post by Macmoish on May 30, 2011 14:23:34 GMT
Tony doesn't seem to post on here very often. But when he does, it seems to be with a certain theme!
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Post by toboboly on May 30, 2011 14:42:16 GMT
I'm worried that ST holders have to pay £35 more just to be in with a shout of away and cup games. As someone who mainly goes away rather than home this is going to make it extremely difficult to get tickets. Very poor overall by QPR.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 30, 2011 15:16:42 GMT
Regarding ticket prices, where does it actually say that tickets will cost £47-72 ?? Because I can't see that anywhere on the offy, Online ticketing site or that www.yourqpr.co.uk Or is it pure speculation?
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Post by toboboly on May 30, 2011 15:23:39 GMT
It mentions the saving that will be made by buying a ST rather than walk up prices Rory. So by dividing this figure and ST price you get the walk up price.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 30, 2011 15:27:09 GMT
It mentions the saving that will be made by buying a ST rather than walk up prices Rory. So by dividing this figure and ST price you get the walk up price. Fair enough but I bet you they are slightly cheaper than that. They could be exaggerating how much you save to persuade fans to buy an ST. I reckon they will actually be £35-72 But I am most probably wrong
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Post by toboboly on May 30, 2011 15:27:54 GMT
Wouldn't that be illegal/false advertising?
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 30, 2011 15:29:01 GMT
Wouldn't that be illegal/false advertising? Yeah I suppose but you never know with our owners
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Post by toboboly on May 30, 2011 15:32:04 GMT
Very true!
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Post by Zamoraaaah on May 30, 2011 18:42:28 GMT
I find it quite hypocritical of fans who bring up the season ticket issue, that actually never get one. It hardly effects anyone on here. I do feel sorry for fans who cannot afford it, but often fans like a drink or a smoke. I consume 5 pints on a match day, if I knock that on the head, I'll save around £20 per game. I can watch our QPR play the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, not a bad price to pay and I can actually watch them sober. You've been sussed already quisling but please carry on, I'll never tire of laughing at you.
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Post by Macmoish on May 31, 2011 9:59:05 GMT
I find it quite hypocritical of fans who bring up the season ticket issue, that actually never get one. It hardly effects anyone on here. I do feel sorry for fans who cannot afford it, but often fans like a drink or a smoke. I consume 5 pints on a match day, if I knock that on the head, I'll save around £20 per game. I can watch our QPR play the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, not a bad price to pay and I can actually watch them sober. You've been sussed already quisling but please carry on, I'll never tire of laughing at you. As I recall, I believe Tony purportedly is Pete's stepson. Aparatchik
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Post by 56vespanvic on May 31, 2011 22:45:00 GMT
Being reminded by this News Speak of Paladini from yesteryear regarding the ABC loan and the board's 'intention' to seek a cheaper loan, encapsulates the fact that INVESTMENT is merely a ten letter word. These people do NOT invest. They never risk saying goodbye to their money ( a fate that befalls many incompetent INVESTORS) because they simply NEVER put it in to begin with. They are expensive money lenders. The reason the like of E&F have loads of dosh is because they fecking well KEEP it! When will people learn? Replacing a loan with a loan is PROOF that the word INVESTMENT is not in their vocabulary because if it WAS then the 'Club' would not be showing negative equity in its accounts. And they don't even show us what proportion of the 'Club's' deficit comprises interest charged on THEIR money (and nor, probably, the recently levied fine and costs by the FA).
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2011 13:28:53 GMT
Isn't it time for a "Selling like hotcakes" update?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 2, 2011 4:43:19 GMT
I still want to know what the clubs target figure for ST's is. Do they hope to sell 9,000 for example.
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 2, 2011 7:10:57 GMT
From what others have posted, sounds like they actually want to sell less so can make even bigger money from walk ups & tourists. But if we're not doing well and we're playing Wigan etc, maybe won't get sell outs...
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Post by cpr on Jun 2, 2011 9:46:39 GMT
As far as I know they are capping at 9k to leave plenty for matchday.
That way they can charge £100 for Arse etc
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 15, 2011 7:46:57 GMT
Never did find out any more about those two fans who rushed to buy the tickets
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 15, 2011 10:35:12 GMT
You mean Mr Brown of London and Mr Smith of England. I would respect them if they did exist and say pooped on here and gave their case. But no one has said or heard a things. Just 'Puff"??
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 15, 2011 10:55:03 GMT
Last month, I posted on the QPR Report Blog and on my Twitter Feed asking for info on either these two...No one stepped forward saying they were them - or that they knew them. That of course does not mean they don't exist. Just that no one on any board that I've seen has said they know them... Sit near them, etx
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