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Post by QPR Report on Jan 21, 2010 23:23:44 GMT
Going to come back to this in the coming days. But basically everyone knows what's wanted and expected. Just a few thoughts...
I think the moderators basically agree with each other on what we want and expect. My own philosophy is to generally back up decisions made by my fellow moderators - even if I might not fully agree.
As posters, we all have our own views. As moderators we have the board as a whole to keep up. So it's not whether we agree or disagree with your general thesis.
re Linking to other sites: I have absolutely no problem with that. Actually want that. Especially QPR related news or QPR related rumours.
Ultimately what other posters say and do on this site or other sites is not the core. It's what QPR do. We want to discuss. To convince. To set out the facts. But this can all be done without ad hominems. Without snideness, etc.
If you're attacked, ignore or respond without yourself engaging
I'll add to this later - and I encourage others to contribute. Eventually a new "Statement of Purpose/Expectations will be set out
As I posted on "Welcome to this website"
he FOCUS OF THIS NEW MESSAGEBOARD The intended focus of the QPR Report Messageboard is QPR matters, on and off the field.. Playing, mangerial, boardoom matters, nostalgia etc, as well as generic Football ("soccer") matters of general interest.
There is not an "official" QPR Report Messageboard perspective on how to view QPR matters. Both critics and skeptics and defenders and boosters are equally welcome. People are not going to get banned for having different viewpoints from that of myself. They will get banned for nastiness towards other posters or for character assassination.
What This Board Does Not Want to Focus on:
- Don't want ad-hominem attacks on other posters, or attacks on other messageboards. Really want people to be able, as the cliche goes, to "Disagree without being disagreeable." Tolerance of other perseptives and viewpoints.
- While not into "PC," racism, anti-Semitism, homophobia, etc - even in jest - is not permitted and won't be tolerated.
- Not interested in this being a moderator-driven messageboards, or posting topics just to build up readership, or posting popularity. If there's something to talk about, that's great. If it's quiet, so be it.
- If you want to post links from other message boards re subjects of QPR or football-in-general interest; feel free. If the information is of interest, QPR fans here should be interested.
he Moderators: Many Thanks To Those Who Agreed to be Moderators. "... and with a focus solely on QPR and football: This board is trying to send a message that we're all QPR fans who just may have different perspectives and opinions about what's best for QPR, etc. And by avoiding politics and "Current Events", this site hopefully will be a haven for people who disagree - sometimes very vociferously - on so many other issues."
And finally let me remind you of my tagline "Welcome to the QPR Report messageboard: A completely independent board, which focuses solely on football (QPR and general); never deliberately misleads its readers; actively encourages links to other QPR sites' postings; and endeavors to treat with respect the views of all posters - regardless of "perspective! So welcome!
Thanks!
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 21, 2010 23:33:43 GMT
Admittedly my verbals on Paladini could be toned back. As for other users on here Some bring some of it on themselves but then again others go a bit too far with their follow-ups. What i would like to see is answers, certain members have asked fair questions and wanted fair , honest and factual answers and usually get a burst for their trouble.
That we all digest everything going on about OUR club and care passionately about it, I think some need a reminder that the club is more important than anyone of us or those actually involved in the running of the club.
Perhaps those in those positions at the club whom have someone allegedly trolling the various message boards for the "feeling" of the fan base, would be better served at taking notice of the content of what is being said, not so much the emotion of which it is being said.
I actually enjoy most of the fans on this site and that includes visitors and those from rival sites. It gives us food for discussion. but having read some of todays drivel going back and forth, I wonder what on earth is going on.
Have ban stick now, will use it sooner than later. come on EVERYONE, let's get re-focussed again. It's QPR's future we should prioritise.
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Post by cpr on Jan 21, 2010 23:52:51 GMT
Banning is not the answer. All too easy to ban but any root problem is not addressed.
I didn't think banning people was what Report wanted either.
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Post by FloridaR on Jan 21, 2010 23:54:27 GMT
i enjoy this site & want to keep on posting here, i admit i have called some a loser but that's gone with the wind the next day. right now there seems to be a faction of the trouble causing fanbase infiltrating this board & stuff's getting ugly at times. Anyway - Will leave it to the power of the excellent moderators to sift through the junk posts & i'm sure stuff things will return to normal soon...
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Post by londonranger on Jan 22, 2010 1:16:47 GMT
What is the root problem Baz? please pm me.
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Post by funky on Jan 22, 2010 6:38:28 GMT
Your moderation of this board is an absolute disgrace some of the stuff that has been posted recently and the venom directed towards anyone with an alternative view is quite frankly beyond the pale.
I hope your happy with what you have achieved Mike ...your band of brothers few but full of spite and personal vendettas.
Your purpose of this board is to spin anti GP propaganda you dont like the guy lets just be honest about it.
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 22, 2010 7:18:43 GMT
Your moderation of this board is an absolute disgrace some of the stuff that has been posted recently and the venom directed towards anyone with an alternative view is quite frankly beyond the pale. I hope your happy with what you have achieved Mike ...your band of brothers few but full of spite and personal vendettas. Your purpose of this board is to spin anti GP propaganda you dont like the guy lets just be honest about it. Rather harsh words, Funky Would I agree that a number of posts have been "'problematic? " Well what did I start this thread for? What have I posted several times including my "Thesis..AntiThesis...Synthesis" post yesterday? [ qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=9903&page=1 ] What have several moderators been posting recently and warning? So yes, no denying there have been some things posted we're not happy about, and we're looking to change. We've spoken publicly. We've spoken privately. (And we primarily expect the posters who were responsible to take a central role in "enforcing" themselves. And all the people know what's expected. And it's not just on one "side" Now there is much more I could say. But overall I'd say every site has its problems...I don't see you going on to other sites...I don't see you posting on your primary site, similar complaints. Not now. Not in the past. Not when there were I and others clearly perceived as anti-Semitic inuendoes going on. And nothing was being done. While Scott resigned..You did and said nothing. And again and again there have been controversies. "The purpose of THIS board" is to actually to focus and discuss QPR. It was set up by me alone; without the support or involvement of anyone else. Others have very kindly joined in. It does not rely on internal leaks or club backing at any level. It's fully independent. I've NEVER posted anything that I knew to be untrue to promote this site. And talking of agendas: From you-Laughable. So yes: There are things that are changing. That my moderators will be working on. But in the fifteeen months of this site, I'm overall pretty happy with how things. It's trying to deal with substance not fluff.
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Post by funky on Jan 22, 2010 7:32:00 GMT
Harsh but fair Mike and you know it hence why you are looking to change things.
Look at the new poster for example, did he really deserve that amount or level of abuse?
A good site deserves good debate, its very good for the site hence your increase in numbers and posters but offer an alternative view and you get attacked which I dont think is fair.
You start a number of anti GP posts to goad responses and then sit back after you have thrown in the initial grenade then followed up by the usual band of "new posters" who join in for a group kick in.
I have always tried to be civil on this site Mike and stop posting for a while, its not so much about internal club politics its always comes back to Gianni?
Why?
Cant we look at the bigger picture some say he is the problem others disagree, but there are others at the club that in my opinion deserve similar type scrutiny?
Is GP responsible for the falling gates which many are concerned about NO thats the Deputy MD Ali Russell, are others slightly concerned that the Mittalls have been rather quiet for 6 months?
Who really is in control ? Who dicates transfer policy the contracts the player recruitment? Is that all GP who sets the budgets?
I respect the fact that you put alot of time and energy into your blog and the message board.
And an outstanding job you do.
I just wish sometimes you could stop having such a polarised view on certain issues.
This boards original agenda has good inetentions but some of your posters over step the mark time and time again.
It's worth looking at Mike because it does you no real good at all.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jan 22, 2010 7:44:05 GMT
Your moderation of this board is an absolute disgrace some of the stuff that has been posted recently and the venom directed towards anyone with an alternative view is quite frankly beyond the pale. I hope your happy with what you have achieved Mike ...your band of brothers few but full of spite and personal vendettas.
Your purpose of this board is to spin anti GP propaganda you dont like the guy lets just be honest about it.Sorry Funky but that is complete rubbish. Why is it that when your lot can't answer simple questions, or defend 'your man', you cry foul and make false allegations about others? Next thing you'll be using Scott and Fisher's "I've been threatened with violence" card. Sad.
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Post by londonranger on Jan 22, 2010 7:46:01 GMT
This board to a man feel Paladini has done a terrible job with al the money spent. He personally is not dreadful,though some questionable stuff on that level has been reported. The definition of the level of moderation can be looke ay from a number of angles.
Generallly we are quite liberal and let the game flow. There has been an increase in questionable posting in the last 10 days or so. However this board is run according to our ethic. People that find it not to their suiting should post on another board. Coming on once in a while and taking a shot quickly and retreating are not really welcome if thats all they are here for.
Returning to Paladini, it is a small minority that are Paladini defenders that put him in a place of being his advocates,and they are limited to one board.
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 22, 2010 7:47:08 GMT
Harsh but fair Mike and you know it hence why you are looking to change things. Look at the new poster for example. A good site deserves good debate, its very good for the site indeed hence your increase in numbers or posters but offer an alternative view and you get attacked which I dont think is fair. You start a number of anti GP posts to goad responses and then sit back after you have thrown in the initial grenade then followed up by the usual band of "new posters" who join in for a group kick in. I have always tried to be civil on this site Mike and stop posting for a while, its not so much about internal club politics its always comes back to Gianni? Why? Cant we look at the bigger picture some say he is the problems others disagree, but there are others at the club that in my opinion deserve similar type scrutiny? Is GP responsible for the falling gates which man are concerned about NO thats the Deputy MD Ali Russell, are others slightly concerned that the Mittalls have been rather quiet for 6 months? I respect the fact that you put alot of time and energy into your blog and the message board I just wish sometimes you could stop having such a polarised view on certain issues. This boards original agenda has good inetentions but some of your posters over step the mark time and time again. It's worth looking at Mike because it does you no real good at all. As I say, I acknowledge there are things I and my fellow moderators would like to change. And changes will come. Because as Edith Cavell said " n spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart." (at least on his board )
I have never denied I have views - as we all do. I do believe and hope and expect that people should be able to express those views - no matter how valid their points, or how 'provoked' they may have been by past events - in a certain way.
re Beyond Paladini: Absolutely...And we certainly have discussed the others. And feel free to start threads yourself. But if you believe a core problem is this individual. Not the only individual but a core problem, not unreasonable to discuss. As for my starting posts: If you cite specific ones, I'll be happy to discuss.
I want certain things of this board. But it's certainly fair to say you don't "dissect" and critique WATRB as you do here. And "first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye"
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Post by nico on Jan 22, 2010 8:37:05 GMT
I would prefer not to get involved in the Funky v Mike debate above and limit my words to something positive going back to Mike's original message.
One positive thing about this site is that you can read a debate, with different views expressed (re Mike' Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis thread). But when fans debate sometimes tempers get lost and then abuse is swapped for argument. Anyone who disagrees with another view risks being accused of not being a real QPR fan, or worse still supporting Chelsea. I'm not taking the high ground here, as one I used to get heated up myself in such arguments many moons ago I was guilty of slipping into the first form of abuse now and then.
In fact that is all nonsense. People should accept that they can have different views and still all be fans of the same club, and just because someone disagrees with you it does not make them a poodle or any other kind of canine variety, nor a P*******, troll or someone with mental problems (all of which have regularly been thrown around in the last few days).
It's the abuse that needs to be cut out or trimmed down, that's all. I have seen some rather bizarre messages suggesting that the problem is that people who post on another board (eg WRTRBs) are the cause of the problem for somehow invading this site and posting a view different from the posters. That is surely nonsense and runs against the idea of this site being able to host debates between fans. It would be just as misconceived as saying the problem is caused by regular posters from IndyRs coming on this site to post their views. Surely both sets of posters should be welcome. Claiming the reasons for abuse is that someone has a different view (and thus somehow deserves it) as as contrary to the idea of free expression as complete censorship.
So surely the best thing would be if people like Scott Jones, Funky, ha9, Qpblock Pete, Isleworth Ranger etc on one side, and Finney, awrightmush, floridarR, etc on another were all welcome and posting on here their own views, and were able to debate without the abuse that we have seen. And it's no good saying, 'he started it' or 'what he said was worse' or any of that kind of playground stuff - we could all do that but it is far better to let it go and try and cut out the abuse in the future.
Good luck Mike and the other moderators who I think are doing their best, whatever their views, to encourage this. If you get it to work I am sure the quality, content and authority of this board will only increase.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jan 22, 2010 8:49:19 GMT
I would prefer not to get involved in the Funky v Mike debate above and limit my words to something positive going back to Mike's original message. One positive thing about this site is that you can read a debate, with different views expressed (re Mike' Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis thread). But when fans debate sometimes tempers get lost and then abuse is swapped for argument. Anyone who disagrees with another view risks being accused of not being a real QPR fan, or worse still supporting Chelsea. I'm not taking the high ground here, as one I used to get heated up myself in such arguments many moons ago I was guilty of slipping into the first form of abuse now and then. In fact that is all nonsense. People should accept that they can have different views and still all be fans of the same club, and just because someone disagrees with you it does not make them a poodle or any other kind of canine variety, nor a P*******, troll or someone with mental problems (all of which have regularly been thrown around in the last few days). It's the abuse that needs to be cut out or trimmed down, that's all. I have seen some rather bizarre messages suggesting that the problem is that people who post on another board (eg WRTRBs) are the cause of the problem for somehow invading this site and posting a view different from the posters. That is surely nonsense and runs against the idea of this site being able to host debates between fans. It would be just as misconceived as saying the problem is caused by regular posters from IndyRs coming on this site to post their views. Surely both sets of posters should be welcome. Claiming the reasons for abuse is that someone has a different view (and thus somehow deserves it) as as contrary to the idea of free expression as complete censorship. So surely the best thing would be if people like Scott Jones, Funky, ha9, Qpblock Pete, Isleworth Ranger etc on one side, and Finney, awrightmush, floridarR, etc on another were all welcome and posting on here their own views, and were able to debate without the abuse that we have seen. And it's no good saying, 'he started it' or 'what he said was worse' or any of that kind of playground stuff - we could all do that but it is far better to let it go and try and cut out the abuse in the future. Good luck Mike and the other moderators who I think are doing their best, whatever their views, to encourage this. If you get it to work I am sure the quality, content and authority of this board will only increase. Maybe we should do our own version of Godwin's Law when the Chelsea insult crops up? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Ah link won't work, just type Godwin's law into wiki
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Post by awrightmush on Jan 22, 2010 9:31:12 GMT
funky says abuse of new poster was wrong....HA9 is not a new poster he is well known on watrbs, where he deliberately baits what has now become a large anti paladini following.
he is well known on lfw and i believe banned from there. he comes on here talking nonsense and highjacking every post, then funky gives it "great post new guy"..poppycock
the £30k post started on watrbs and has been backed up via e mails and pms to a lot of posters on more than 1 site.
of course it wont come out until the original press investigator decides to publish it, or so i am told.
my post clearly states the £30k accusation was posted on another site and was apparently true.... i have seen the source and personally i believe the claim 100%, which is my right, whether others do is up to them.
the recent news about GP all eminated from watrbs, despite censoring anti gp posts, they appear now to be flooding through.
Councillor fisher is a public figure who tried to use that position to add a kind of truthfull bias to a disgusting story about mark devlin, total lies and fabrication, which i believe ? is still on watrbs. that now i would hope is going through the legal system.
the names funky mentions including himself, always gang up on anti gp posters on their site, and they have now tried to do it over here. Truth is they caught a cold as now i would say certainly on message boards the anti gp posters are well over 80% (1 in 8 posts dont attack him on any link).
mike allows links to be passed and watrbs post the most contraversal stuff re gp....... posts such as best ever chairman, sporting director, who loves gp, how he saved us etc are used to taunt opponents...fair enough but those opponents are now fighting back
facts have been gathered, old paladini quotes re surfaced and figures and contracts etc being checked.
The line give them enough rope will hang paladini, for sure and now that info has been handled by the right people it will certainly drive the man who tried to destroy QPR out.
my quote about an e mail i recieved from a top national journo was passed to mike for acreditation. this man states that should briatore leave rangers will be relegated 5 divisions....WHY ? thats what i dont know but the indication i believe is because of stuff thats gone on, behind the scenes.
some transfers one in particular stink, so much so that some players have taken a closer look at their contracts, these deals were handled by one man.
like anything you read, you should make your own minds up when they are not stated as pure facts.
what funky and co are upset about is that more people than ever are choosing to believe anyone other than paladini, a known and proven in court..liar.
THe highjacking will stop because now very few will listen to them, the tide has turned and despite talk of 3 yearr contracts for the man, i was told yesterday that he will not be at rangers at the start of next season...now i believe this person, as is my right,whether anyone else does is up to them.
as for abuse, as nico says, stick to your own site and it stops... you would nt walk into the stretford end in a rangers shirt and expect a pleasant repartee, so dont do it here. i post on here and the old official site, i read the others and if allowed by mike post some links
some are from watrbs some are not. watrbs have some good views and posters, but is heavily censored either by locking posts or funky and co trashing them.. their site their rules, but its bit them on the bum becausae every post now seems to go against them, proving if you censor the truth people will look for more, and where paladini is concerned they have begun to find it.
i or no one i know on here advocates violence of any sort to any poster, lets be clear on that. sticks and stones etc.
only one recent post was libelous and that was the councillor who went deliberately out to assasinate one individual, it failed and he has now to deal with it.
once GP has gone funky and co will disapear but of course they will have left behind a scarred battlefield....at least thougfh we will have our Rangers back.
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Post by nico on Jan 22, 2010 9:38:07 GMT
awm, I shan't argue with the rest of your post as I said I am not interested in getting dragged into that at the moment and I doubt we would persuade each other anyway.
But one thing where I think you got the spirit of this thread wrong when you said this:
'as for abuse, as nico says, stick to your own site and it stops... you would nt walk into the stretford end in a rangers shirt and expect a pleasant repartee, so dont do it here. i post on here and the old official site, i read the others and if allowed by mike post some links'
It really is not and should not be about people 'sticking to their own sites'. If that happened you would have no debate on here. In fact this site would not exist as people from other sites would not have been able to join it if they had to stick to their own. WE are all QPR fans and it doesn't matter if Paul Finney who moderates one site, or Scott who does another, come and post here, so long as everyone tried to cut out the abuse.
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Post by awrightmush on Jan 22, 2010 9:44:05 GMT
ok nico on that point fair enough, but its human nature to have 2 sides and whereso both will always disagree... we have an election this year, wait to see the abuse dished out by some of the most educated well paid people in Britain.
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Post by ha9 on Jan 22, 2010 9:48:09 GMT
ok nico on that point fair enough, but its human nature to have 2 sides and whereso both will always disagree... we have an election this year, wait to see the abuse dished out by some of the most educated well paid people in Britain. maybe you should apply the same logic when replying to posts i make? i never abused you but you jumped on my back from when i first signed up In fact im surprised the moderators of this site actually allowed that level of abuse to be directed towards me You have to accept that not everyone has your point of view so ask that you refrain from being personal about it
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 22, 2010 9:54:29 GMT
Some really interesting input since my own, Good to read to be honest. a great debate. As there is so many of us participating, does this make us a Mass?
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Post by ha9 on Jan 22, 2010 9:58:45 GMT
Some really interesting input since my own, Good to read to be honest. a great debate. As there is so many of us participating, does this make us a Mass? For me personally only interested in sensible debate and would hope other users of this site join me in that
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Post by awrightmush on Jan 22, 2010 10:00:08 GMT
i will say this to you once...you are an exposed agitator, who is disliked on every site, you came on here to stir after your ridiclous posts were too much even for petes site.
your name was outed on other sites to stop you trolling, you are someone who from all your posts has no opinion of your own, you just trash others views...my anti gp post was welcomed by most, and even acknowledged to be true in parts by a very pro gp person (via e mail).
believe what you want but i have been asked by mods to ignore your posts, i think it may be because you are quite young and may come under the minors act. therefore i will comply with the mods re you. this is my final post to you its a shame someone so young is so easily led and has made so many enemies, mayt i sugest you think for yourself, and trone yourself down a bit...once GP has been outed, you may find your allies disapear toot suite.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jan 22, 2010 10:02:52 GMT
ok nico on that point fair enough, but its human nature to have 2 sides and whereso both will always disagree... we have an election this year, wait to see the abuse dished out by some of the most educated well paid people in Britain. maybe you should apply the same logic when replying to posts i make? i never abused you but you jumped on my back from when i first signed up In fact im surprised the moderators of this site actually allowed that level of abuse to be directed towards me You have to accept that not everyone has your point of view so ask that you refrain from being personal about it As far as I can see, all the insults have thankfully stopped.
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 22, 2010 10:03:45 GMT
maybe you should apply the same logic when replying to posts i make? i never abused you but you jumped on my back from when i first signed up In fact im surprised the moderators of this site actually allowed that level of abuse to be directed towards me You have to accept that not everyone has your point of view so ask that you refrain from being personal about it Ha9 - please feel free to personally PM me with details of any abuse you have received since you joined. It will not be tolerated and people will be dealt with if they deserve it. I personally, whilst have seen some truculent posts, must of missed the beyond the pale ones that were undeserved, so please bring them to my attention for they will not be tolerated. I also asked you some direct questions in regards to your first post but have been ignored by you so far. Any reason why? I would like my questions answered as I find it frustrating to be ignored by you when I ask pertinent questions. Also if either you or Funky can find a personal 'anti-Pallidini' post from me in my entire time as a poster and as a moderator then you would be justified in implying it towards me. Until then, please do not call this an 'anti-Pallidini' message board, as I find that childish and insulting. WE are QPR.
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Post by ha9 on Jan 22, 2010 10:07:11 GMT
maybe you should apply the same logic when replying to posts i make? i never abused you but you jumped on my back from when i first signed up In fact im surprised the moderators of this site actually allowed that level of abuse to be directed towards me You have to accept that not everyone has your point of view so ask that you refrain from being personal about it Ha9 - please feel free to personally PM me with details of any abuse you have received since you joined. It will not be tolerated and people will be dealt with if they deserve it. I personally, whilst have seen some truculent posts, must of missed the beyond the pale ones that were undeserved, so please bring them to my attention for they will not be tolerated. I also asked you some direct questions in regards to your first post but have been ignored by you so far. Any reason why? I would like my questions answered as I find it frustrating to be ignored by you when I ask pertinent questions. Also if either you or Funky can find a personal 'anti-Pallidini' post from me in my entire time as a poster and as a moderator then you would be justified in implying it towards me. Until then, please do not call this an 'anti-Pallidini' message board, as I find that childish and insulting. WE are QPR. apologies for that In fairness as i say i got shot down the minuet i done my first post therefore i went away to let things calm down can you remind me what your questions were please? I did answer some questions for another poster on here the other night so im not dodging anything Thanks
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Post by ha9 on Jan 22, 2010 10:08:35 GMT
i will say this to you once...you are an exposed agitator, who is disliked on every site, you came on here to stir after your ridiclous posts were too much even for petes site. your name was outed on other sites to stop you trolling, you are someone who from all your posts has no opinion of your own, you just trash others views...my anti gp post was welcomed by most, and even acknowledged to be true in parts by a very pro gp person (via e mail). believe what you want but i have been asked by mods to ignore your posts, i think it may be because you are quite young and may come under the minors act. therefore i will comply with the mods re you. this is my final post to you its a shame someone so young is so easily led and has made so many enemies, mayt i sugest you think for yourself, and trone yourself down a bit...once GP has been outed, you may find your allies disapear toot suite. if you call 29 years old young then what can i say.....
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 22, 2010 10:20:56 GMT
Wish I was 29 again, the girls these days are a lot damn hotter than when I really was 29!!
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Post by ha9 on Jan 22, 2010 10:25:54 GMT
Wish I was 29 again, the girls these days are a lot damn hotter than when I really was 29!! Have to say i concurr with that
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Post by eskey8 on Jan 22, 2010 10:27:04 GMT
Personally I think the Mods and especially mike do a great job on this site.
Yes there are personal attacked but all you grown adults need to just not rise to the bait. Some people on this site do it for a reaction - just ignore it. Sometime the people who do this actually come on the site and have sensible conversations and debate - which is why the mods and mike do not wish to ban people.
Plus I am glad you think 29 is young, I was starting to worry about being thirty in a few years time!
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Post by ha9 on Jan 22, 2010 10:31:15 GMT
Personally I think the Mods and especially mike do a great job on this site. Yes there are personal attacked but all you grown adults need to just not rise to the bait. Some people on this site do it for a reaction - just ignore it. Sometime the people who do this actually come on the site and have sensible conversations and debate - which is why the mods and mike do not wish to ban people. Plus I am glad you think 29 is young, I was starting to worry about being thirty in a few years time! i will repeat it again fella i came here in peace wishing for a sensible and fair debate and yes 29 is young in my eyes although a couple of people on here think im under 16 which quite frankly is laughable
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Post by klr on Jan 22, 2010 10:36:01 GMT
Personally I think the Mods and especially mike do a great job on this site. Yes there are personal attacked but all you grown adults need to just not rise to the bait. Some people on this site do it for a reaction - just ignore it. Sometime the people who do this actually come on the site and have sensible conversations and debate - which is why the mods and mike do not wish to ban people. Plus I am glad you think 29 is young, I was starting to worry about being thirty in a few years time! i will repeat it again fella i came here in peace wishing for a sensible and fair debate and yes 29 is young in my eyes although a couple of people on here think im under 16 which quite frankly is laughable I thought you were 16 judging by the tone of your posts. I still believe that. I also believe that you should be sent back to the circus because clowns like you are without doubt affecting the quality of this board.
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 22, 2010 10:43:54 GMT
Ha9 - please feel free to personally PM me with details of any abuse you have received since you joined. It will not be tolerated and people will be dealt with if they deserve it. I personally, whilst have seen some truculent posts, must of missed the beyond the pale ones that were undeserved, so please bring them to my attention for they will not be tolerated. I also asked you some direct questions in regards to your first post but have been ignored by you so far. Any reason why? I would like my questions answered as I find it frustrating to be ignored by you when I ask pertinent questions. Also if either you or Funky can find a personal 'anti-Pallidini' post from me in my entire time as a poster and as a moderator then you would be justified in implying it towards me. Until then, please do not call this an 'anti-Pallidini' message board, as I find that childish and insulting. WE are QPR. apologies for that In fairness as i say i got shot down the minuet i done my first post therefore i went away to let things calm down can you remind me what your questions were please? I did answer some questions for another poster on here the other night so im not dodging anything Thanks Thanks for the reply! ;D It was in regards to your assertion that if there was a takeover then Pallidni would remain in his present role. I asserted that if you were a new owner and looked at the performance levels on the pitch and then the amount of money lost each year by the club then it would be more than reasonable to assume that the one constant in this over the last 5 years: Pallidini, is primarily responsible for this. Gianni's stated himself that his intentions were that he would lower the losses and try to balance the club's books. That is fact: he said that at a share holders meeting. In that respect he has failed dramatically, nearly running the club into the ground and to a point were we had to be saved by outside investors who now proclaim that without them the club would not exist. They have never claimed that without Gianni the club would not exist! In his role at QPR he has kept us going by hook or by crook but ultimately has failed in his own stated objectives from when he first came in and had to be rescued by others, several times. He is not very good at his job in short and we need better. I'm unsure as to why we need a Sporting Director anyway I suspect it's more to do with Flabio having a constant point of contact at the club because that is obviously not going to happen with the managerial turn around we have, but I think it's in our best interests to get in a manager on a long termm basis that Flabio can trust and do away with the entire Sporting Director role entirely. Just wanted a response to that really, a different viewpoint and then hopefully an insightful debate.
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