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Post by toothache on Feb 3, 2010 13:53:12 GMT
Bp, let me put this way lets say you met with qpr-report and relayed your opinion on matters to him. They would be your opinion, not his. If he then speaks about his views, it would be yours and not his. Certain things of course you can have an opinion about, but not how players are performing, the current director of football or the goings on at the club, because its all second hand information being told him via the net or personally Don't you agree? Ps cpr still some offending words, my friend
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Post by cpr on Feb 3, 2010 13:54:49 GMT
*checked agenda again*...*yes here it is*...*ok here we go*....
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Post by toothache on Feb 3, 2010 13:55:33 GMT
many thanks, for keeping this a nice clean board and personal stuff omitted..
Best wishes
toothache
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Post by QPR Report on Feb 3, 2010 13:57:45 GMT
Bp, let me put this way lets say you met with qpr-report and relayed your opinion on matters to him. They would be your opinion, not his. If he then speaks about his views, it would be yours and not his. Certain things of course you can have an opinion about, but not how players are performing, the current director of football or the goings on at the club, because its all second hand information being told him via the net or personally Don't you agree? Ps cpr still some offending words, my friend As we invited you to do "Toothache", provide us with the words that you find objectionable. Then we can make our determination. Now as for the posts, statements and actions on the WATRB board, well that's of course the responsibility of those who run the WATRB board
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Post by toothache on Feb 3, 2010 13:59:30 GMT
They have been removed.
many thanks
qprreport, you do understand my points regards opinions, don't you?
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Post by toboboly on Feb 3, 2010 14:02:09 GMT
Why did you ask for nutters post to be edited when he was adressing a user by his username?
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Post by obk on Feb 3, 2010 14:05:11 GMT
I think we all do tooth, but I would assume most of us think you are clearly wrong. Not the least since there are so many ways to get information nowadays.
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Post by numpty66 on Feb 3, 2010 14:05:41 GMT
Why did you ask for nutters post to be edited when he was adressing a user by his username? I wondered that myself
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Post by numpty66 on Feb 3, 2010 14:07:57 GMT
Bp, let me put this way lets say you met with qpr-report and relayed your opinion on matters to him. They would be your opinion, not his. If he then speaks about his views, it would be yours and not his. Certain things of course you can have an opinion about, but not how players are performing, the current director of football or the goings on at the club, because its all second hand information being told him via the net or personally Don't you agree? Ps cpr still some offending words, my friend As far as i see it, there are many ways of forming opinions. As to whether they are right or wrong who is to say. Really cant see why this bugs you so much
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Post by Sabas on Feb 3, 2010 14:10:12 GMT
I think we all do tooth, but I would assume most of us think you are clearly wrong. Not the least since there are so many ways to get information nowadays. QPR Player, in particular, successfully discredits the efforts of our defense. It must be painful to go through the whole spectacle. Hence, I assume, the nickname
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Post by bp on Feb 3, 2010 14:10:18 GMT
Bp, let me put this way lets say you met with qpr-report and relayed your opinion on matters to him. They would be your opinion, not his. If he then speaks about his views, it would be yours and not his. Certain things of course you can have an opinion about, but not how players are performing, the current director of football or the goings on at the club, because its all second hand information being told him via the net or personally Don't you agree? Ps cpr still some offending words, my friend Well actually I don't agree with what you post. I presume you are referring to qprreport? If and can I say I did speak to qprreport in DC some 7 or 8 years ago along with 2 other US based QPR fans before I was anything to do with the club but I have not spoken to him since. But as you put it they would be my opinions if he just parroted back what I had said and on that I completely agree with you but I can tell you in my case he hasn't agreed with what I said and continues not to in quite a few areas. He has just as much knowledge of Gianni as you do. His opinion is that Gi' is not doing a great job, yours is that he is doing a good job. There you go 2 people don't agree on something, but you are both perfectly entitled to your views. He has seen games although only on TV and videos put up on various fans sites, including yours I would presume, so again he is entitled to his opinion. I would accept that someone who sees every game has a lot more to base his opinion on but that does not make it correct because as you will have read in the Gorkss thread people who watch most games are divided as to his ability but again that is their opinion and they are perfectly entitled to it.
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Post by eastpaddoknutta on Feb 3, 2010 14:12:53 GMT
God some people talk a lot of nonsense dont they. Sad part is, Mr Toothache believes he is right. Me thinks next time he goes to the dentist he should ask to have his head extracted from his a*se u do make me laugh [1 word deleted] can i ask what is offending about my post other than the fact i stated blatent facts that were true i wasnt offending you toothache this offending pull your head out your own arse and stop think only your opinion matters dissagreeing isnt saying anything else other than a differnce in opinion next time ill pm it to you so u can read it propaly and not hide behind exuses
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Post by toboboly on Feb 3, 2010 14:14:35 GMT
It is my opinion that most believe Gorkss to be the last bit of glue holding the poor excuse of a defence together...
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Post by FloridaR on Feb 3, 2010 14:16:31 GMT
Is there no middle ground on opinion ?
Defined
o·pin·ion (-pnyn) n.
1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: "The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion" (Elizabeth Drew).
2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.
4. The prevailing view: public opinion.
5. Law A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.
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Post by FloridaR on Feb 3, 2010 14:20:33 GMT
Just expanding the definition a little
heterodoxy
1. the state of being at variance with established doctrines or beliefs.
2. a heterodox view or belief. opinionist
a person fond of his own opinions and of making them known
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Post by eastpaddoknutta on Feb 3, 2010 14:22:03 GMT
Is there no middle ground on opinion ? Defined o·pin·ion (-pnyn) n. 1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: "The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion" (Elizabeth Drew). 2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion. 3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts. 4. The prevailing view: public opinion. 5. Law A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court. exactly that was my point earlier i didnt dissagree with you i was answering your questions and giving you my opinion "on what you said" if you dont like hearing other peoples opinions on your own dont start threads its not hard to be growen up and admit that your opinion is not the same as others
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Post by FloridaR on Feb 3, 2010 14:28:03 GMT
Idea's are good as well & are always highly debatable
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Post by FloridaR on Feb 3, 2010 14:29:33 GMT
;D Good i think we killed the infection with definitions
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Post by moriarty on Feb 3, 2010 14:31:31 GMT
Idea's are good as well & are always highly debatable That's just your opinion ;D
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Post by FloridaR on Feb 3, 2010 14:33:24 GMT
lol So - when we make a suggestion is it really an idea based on a personal judgement or belief/doctorine that we follow
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Post by toothache on Feb 3, 2010 14:36:24 GMT
bp
Would one of the constant things you disagree on, be
You like Gianni and he doesn't
be one??
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Post by FloridaR on Feb 3, 2010 14:38:09 GMT
bp Would one of the constant things you disagree on, be You like Gianni and he doesn't be one?? Is that based on 2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
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Post by bp on Feb 3, 2010 14:39:49 GMT
bp Would one of the constant things you disagree on, be You like Gianni and he doesn't be one?? I don't think I have ever seen 'report post that he dislikes Gianni. I would also say it is not something that is constantly discussed but yes you are right I have said if they ever met they would get on like a house on fire, he disagrees I don't.
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Post by obk on Feb 3, 2010 14:39:53 GMT
Ok, lets do some moderating here in a friendly manner. BP, if you wish to, answer toothaches question.
But after that, can we please keep the thread on topic?
If you want to discuss things not related to the original topic, it would be much better to start a new thread.
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Post by bp on Feb 3, 2010 14:41:44 GMT
Ok, lets do some moderating here in a friendly manner. BP, if you wish to, answer toothaches question. But after that, can we please keep the thread on topic? If you want to discuss things not related to the original topic, it would be much better to start a new thread. No problem, sorry if this has sidetracked.
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Post by FloridaR on Feb 3, 2010 14:41:45 GMT
I agree "New opinions are always suspected, and usually opposed, without any other reason but because they are not already common" [John Locke Essay concerning Human Understanding]
Sorry for derailing the topic..I'm leaving now.
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Post by toothache on Feb 3, 2010 14:56:13 GMT
Apologies for the sidetrack
Going back to the original question.
Glad you adhere to respecting posters
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Post by eastpaddoknutta on Feb 3, 2010 15:02:52 GMT
bp Would one of the constant things you disagree on, be You like Gianni and he doesn't be one?? in all honesty what gives toothache the right to questions one mans work hiding behind his computer its not exactly (i dont think so) if BP knows this guy from adam and hes asking a personal question like that which is putting BP in a postion you dont answer my questions tootache again what "offended" you about this thread that i posted in refering to comments you posted? ? just to reiterate im not offending you im giving you my opionion and asking you a question so dont ask for it to be deleted so you can avoid answering sensible questions
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Post by Lonegunmen on Feb 3, 2010 17:36:06 GMT
fan a talks to fan b about qpr, fan b forms an opinion off what fan a has said. fan b tells fan c his opinion, not necessairly that of fan a but his own opinion. Therefore toothache, your assumption is incorrect. fail. It does not mean fan b is parroting fan a at all.
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Post by QPR Report on Feb 3, 2010 17:40:15 GMT
Club official a offers his view to "fan" b about what to think and say..."Fan" b tries to persuade Fans c, d, e, f and g what to think...Fans c,d,e,f and g don't give a damn what "Fan" b thinks and slough him off.
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