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Post by awrightmush on Jan 3, 2010 23:41:08 GMT
interesting accusations on watrbs, ha9 looks to be gps personal batman. not been a good week for those boys, what with the councillor caught out telling lies...maybe paladinis house of cards is about to fall...
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Post by awrightmush on Jan 4, 2010 0:01:41 GMT
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Post by cpr on Jan 4, 2010 0:08:50 GMT
Thanks for the link but I'll pass, awright! Training ground wasn't shut, Funky told us so. Even though Marc Bircham told us it was. Is the Paladini puppet palace house of cards starting to collapse?
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Post by klr on Jan 4, 2010 0:37:18 GMT
You say Amdy Faye, I say Abdoulaye Faye.
This is the man that also thought Swansea were signing James Beattie, when infact they were signing Craig Beattie.
It takes a lot of hard work to be this clueless.
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Post by awrightmush on Jan 4, 2010 1:05:57 GMT
Thanks for the link but I'll pass, awright! Training ground wasn't shut, Funky told us so. Even though Marc Bircham told us it was. Is the Paladini puppet palace house of cards starting to collapse? the training ground was shut..birch was nt the only one there. the kit man as most know was just covering his back' is the house of cards falling ? yes i think it is...councillor paul fisher has now been dis credited in libeling mark devlin. we now have ha9 ranger trying to descredit an ex youth tam player with again wild and inacurate claims www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43644is this to justify the iminent sale of raheem ? more lining of pockets ? greasing agents palms? Pete and Scott changing their beliefs on a daily basis like rats seeking refuge on a sinking ship. funkys recent ramblings again total nonsense as gp calls his big guns to the front line for one more big push. these are the people who have totally torn the fan base up all for a few freebies and some secret info down the pub with the sporting director, oblivious to all the sackings (apart from the one they orchastrated themselves) all the price hikes all the crap signings on long contracts. they are throwing their last bullets alright.......ps on the training ground olly said it was shut and i think your find Macca has an even tastier story to tell over that issue
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 4, 2010 1:24:14 GMT
You say Amdy Faye, I say Abdoulaye Faye. This is the man that also thought Swansea were signing James Beattie, when infact they were signing Craig Beattie. It takes a lot of hard work to be this clueless. I thought he'd struggle to make himself look sillier but hey Pete's managed it
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Post by scottjones on Jan 4, 2010 8:45:48 GMT
I havent changed any "beliefs".
I just feel the club is falling to pieces.
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 4, 2010 8:51:54 GMT
I havent changed any "beliefs". I just feel the club is falling to pieces. A public welcome back, Scott... Care to elaborate (on the current situation "the club is falling to pieces")
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jan 4, 2010 8:58:17 GMT
Who to believe, the manager & players or the kit man? Based on what I have read and heard , I'm going with the former as I believe them to be more credible witnesses but obviously I can't swear it to be true as I wasn't there.
Who not to believe? Someone with zero credibility due to a history of lying, whom personally benefits from peddling a (not so) hidden agenda and wasn't at the training ground/club at the time.
P.S. Welcome back Scott
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 4, 2010 9:02:37 GMT
Bircham said it was closed (but he was only a player) - (I posted the quote a few days ago)
If anyone has the Holloway book and has an actual quote saying it was closed (or not closed) posting that would be interesting
McDonald...?
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Post by eskey8 on Jan 4, 2010 9:07:18 GMT
I may have missed something so hopefully someone can fill in the gaps - but why does it matter whether the training ground was shut or not?
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 4, 2010 9:09:58 GMT
In the broad scheme of things it really doesn't.
But after reports at the time, the claim was made at the time that it was not; And it was vigorously denied by Chairman Paladini. And the claim that it was not is used by defenders of Paladini to attempt to denigrate all critiques of Paladini.
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Post by eskey8 on Jan 4, 2010 9:17:57 GMT
ok cool, sorry thought I had missed something big!
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Post by finney on Jan 4, 2010 11:35:46 GMT
I havent changed any "beliefs". I just feel the club is falling to pieces. Scott can you tell me why you posted up that you watched CCTV footage of my seat and who showed you it please For the record the club has been falling apart for over four years but you and you're mates spent years trying o discredit anyone who stood up and told the truth is we are in a mess because of people like you trying to stop others telling the truth you done a great job for Paladini. Perhaps he should give you an award this time.
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Post by awrightmush on Jan 4, 2010 12:14:15 GMT
Scott can you tell me why you posted up that you watched CCTV footage of my seat and who showed you it please. bloody hell is that true?? Scott??? The paladini shameful abuse of fans continues, and to think other rangers fans are prepared to carry out these tasks. paul fishers shameful and spitefull attack on mark devlin was a put up job im sure. paladini is on the ropes and has his troops slinging the last of their ammo. scott says his beliefs have nt changed yet not so long ago he wanted gp to be knighted, for saving the club, now he thinks he should maybe seek another role other than sporting director.... pete says yes the training ground was shut, then has obviouslly been told to change his tune again quickly, so he quotes the kit man...again, yet we all know the ground was shut, that bills were not paid, bircham said it publicly yet there was no sudden legal action from paladini...why not ? in fact he gave birch a job....the man is a liar 70 odd times in court under oath,....what about that then ? anyone want to deny that ? the freebies and the free drinks down the local, hiring and firing managers was never going to last forever was it scott? you and pete now need to make adjustments cos too man people now are asking questions especially after your councillor friends libelous outburst not to mention our old friend nico, going to the press slagging off fab then sitting back alongside paladini when he thought fab was a goner. gps takeover never quite worked out did it? so what next scott ? what outlandish claims will the next gp boy shout...."finneys not Irish shocker, he just puts the accent on "
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Post by klr on Jan 4, 2010 12:23:06 GMT
Scott can you tell me why you posted up that you watched CCTV footage of my seat and who showed you it please. bloody hell is that true?? Scott??? The paladini shameful abuse of fans continues, and to think other rangers fans are prepared to carry out these tasks. paul fishers shameful and spitefull attack on mark devlin was a put up job im sure. paladini is on the ropes and has his troops slinging the last of their ammo. scott says his beliefs have nt changed yet not so long ago he wanted gp to be knighted, for saving the club, now he thinks he should maybe seek another role other than sporting director.... pete says yes the training ground was shut, then has obviouslly been told to change his tune again quickly, so he quotes the kit man...again, yet we all know the ground was shut, that bills were not paid, bircham said it publicly yet there was no sudden legal action from paladini...why not ? in fact he gave birch a job....the man is a liar 70 odd times in court under oath,....what about that then ? anyone want to deny that ? the freebies and the free drinks down the local, hiring and firing managers was never going to last forever was it scott? you and pete now need to make adjustments cos too man people now are asking questions especially after your councillor friends libelous outburst not to mention our old friend nico, going to the press slagging off fab then sitting back alongside paladini when he thought fab was a goner. gps takeover never quite worked out did it? so what next scott ? what outlandish claims will the next gp boy shout...."finneys not Irish shocker, he just puts the accent on " Have to say, very well said & I agree with this sentiment entirely. Some of "you lot" have put your loyalty & moral responsibility to the club "up for sale" which really is beyond the pale at a club like ours, maybe at Manchester United or somewhere like that, but not at QPR, infact all clubs support would look down on "fans" like you, you should be ashamed to call yourselves "QPR Fans" Male P*******s more like. People like Paladini operate by bribing people with gifts & buying peoples loyalty, people like Paladini know that a lot of people can be corrupted & this is their way of operating / doing business / modus operandi. How any QPR fan can do this is beyond me & this is another obvious thing, the fact that he identified the an obviously less intelligent group of QPR fans, still doesnt excuse what you have done though, sold your souls to the Devil. The game is up now, its all over, do you lot seriously think that you can show your faces down at Loftus Road post Paladini ?? lol Absolute Laughing stock amongst our fanbase.
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Post by scottjones on Jan 4, 2010 12:42:46 GMT
GP may be your issue (obviously) but, he's not my issue.
There's bigger and worse problems than him at our club
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 4, 2010 12:44:26 GMT
Certainly there is room for debate over what many many fans believe to be a de facto if not de jure "quid-pro-quo" relationship between a club officias and a website.
But Beyond what individual messageboard posters may have said and done - and I'd just note that the #1 spinner over on another site has not been Scott; I'm most interested in what Scott meant re "the club is falling to pieces." On WATRB a few days ago, mentioned lot of QPR Office staff departures. Is that because there's a Captain Queeg mentality or financial problems at the club?
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Post by scottjones on Jan 4, 2010 12:48:39 GMT
Lots and lots of people just looking after their own back, jobs for the boys, that kind of thing. Resulting in the wrong people doing the wrong jobs and the place being run as a complete shambles.
Under previous regimes it was also jobs for the boys in fairness and most of them were not competent in the roles they had - however, at least everyone was singing off the same hymn sheet.
Now, it's a frigging joke.
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Post by klr on Jan 4, 2010 12:49:53 GMT
GP may be your issue (obviously) but, he's not my issue. There's bigger and worse problems than him at our club Flavio, GP, both cut from the same cloth so to speak. You have made your position perfectly clear, ( Pro GP ) so I think you are going to have to stick with that. Without wanting to sound too sanctimonious, I would like to think that I am Pro QPR & have the best interests of the club in my heart, I just think its very sad to see a great little club like QPR in a state like this & QPR fans in general deserve a whole lot better than this. Without wanting to sound even more sanctimonious than is particularly neccesary, I also I believe I have also been completely vindicated with regards to certain things that have gone on at our club under these peoples stewardship. You people letting yourself be used as pawns has played its part it dividing & damaging us as a football club, of course you should be ashamed of yourselves, & people call me "Anti QPR" ?! Deluded beyond belief.
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 4, 2010 12:54:39 GMT
Lots and lots of people just looking after their own back, jobs for the boys, that kind of thing. Resulting in the wrong people doing the wrong jobs and the place being run as a complete shambles. Under previous regimes it was also jobs for the boys in fairness and most of them were not competent in the roles they had - however, at least everyone was singing off the same hymn sheet. Now, it's a frigging joke. And what's the motivation? If you're correct, this sounds like those owning us are feeding off the club rather than trying to build it up. And you wouldn't think they'd be doing that if it was their money being wasted; or if they had long term plans for the club... And again if correct, what can be done by fans?
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Post by cpr on Jan 4, 2010 13:12:24 GMT
I've said before, the long term plan is for a Billionaire's Superstore in South Africa Road.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 4, 2010 13:54:30 GMT
Lots and lots of people just looking after their own back, jobs for the boys, that kind of thing. Resulting in the wrong people doing the wrong jobs and the place being run as a complete shambles. Under previous regimes it was also jobs for the boys in fairness and most of them were not competent in the roles they had - however, at least everyone was singing off the same hymn sheet. Now, it's a frigging joke. And what's the motivation? If you're correct, this sounds like those owning us are feeding off the club rather than trying to build it up. And you wouldn't think they'd be doing that if it was their money being wasted; or if they had long term plans for the club... And again if correct, what can be done by fans? This doesn't make sense the only reason to buy an asset is to strip it for parts or improve its value. The fact that they have loaned the club so much money means they need to recover that through increasing its value...if they had intended to strip it then they would have spent nothing. If anyone is likely to be milking it it is those who are taking a salary without any assets at risk. I read most of Tracy's report of the trial over the last few days and many things came out but an interesting phrase was GP saying that he had "bought himself a job" when he bought his 22% share. GP has always seen this as a living and looks like unlike his friend Caliendo has always done well out of it.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jan 4, 2010 14:00:58 GMT
Totally agree Eus and let's not forget Tracy's version is far from complete.
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Post by finney on Jan 4, 2010 17:13:47 GMT
Scott who showed you CCTV footage of my seat?
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Post by superckat on Jan 4, 2010 17:37:34 GMT
To be fair to Scott, although at times you would like to be around when he is leaning over a very high building and there are no witnesses. Unlike others you get the impression that he would be truthful whenever he eventually realises it slapping him in the face.
The CCTV thing is out of order. Scott prove me right and answer Finney's question. It's not unreasonable.
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Post by scottjones on Jan 4, 2010 20:49:47 GMT
Someone no longer employed at QPR anymore Finney.
And in fairness you took it too much too literally..I was having a gander at the new systems and you had put your ticket details on-line...
..someone who sits by you told me that you shared your ticket...that was all.
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Post by cpr on Jan 4, 2010 21:41:56 GMT
Fukksake, 'ere we go again! Yawn!
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Post by finney on Jan 5, 2010 19:12:11 GMT
Someone no longer employed at QPR anymore Finney. And in fairness you took it too much too literally..I was having a gander at the new systems and you had put your ticket details on-line... ..someone who sits by you told me that you shared your ticket...that was all. So someone at the club showed you CCTV footage of my seat unreal i will take this post up with QPR in the morning and i want a fecking good reason why a moron like you is able to get into the club and do that. That is a very serious issue and i will not let this rest. Also never shared a season ticket i got that seat and sat in my daughters with my mates and her on my knee. Fact is you tryed to smear me with that post on rivals about me not paying for my seat. and sharing it. Also the seat number i sent you was not the same seat that was from a season before. Liars need good memorys scott.
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Post by finney on Jan 5, 2010 19:23:42 GMT
Lots and lots of people just looking after their own back, jobs for the boys, that kind of thing. Resulting in the wrong people doing the wrong jobs and the place being run as a complete shambles. Under previous regimes it was also jobs for the boys in fairness and most of them were not competent in the roles they had - however, at least everyone was singing off the same hymn sheet. Now, it's a frigging joke. Jobs for the boys what about as it was said in court that Gianni employed his son at QPR his wifes Company was paid a lot of money all in the accounts and also family members got money for car allowances also in the accounts. Oh and what about interest fee loans also in the accounts. Oh and now we have a huge hike in agents fees also in the accounts. What was that you were saying about Jobs for the boys.
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