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Post by londonranger on Oct 20, 2010 16:00:41 GMT
I suppose in my ignorance, thought that Sakseen?Mittal as Holdings chairman were in complete control. especially when kingfisher was looking at buying in, it looked rosy. In the lead. I just get paranoid that up springs the "Beast" and has named the new manager and it aint Warnock. Can only destabilise the club. Always on "THE HUNT" the scent of money has them salivating again and now hes back in with his Juve dreams, where the scent gets stronger.
So why am I so passionate about this. Just want to see in my living room once from Emirates and see em beat Arsenal. also for the Oz fan and the Unknown Mongolian, and for my Dad who would be over the moon.
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Post by bowles on Oct 20, 2010 17:43:07 GMT
just look at flabios track record (excuse the pun) its appalling!!! he did ever thing wrong when he was running our club and no-one can say he didnt! then you have his mate the senile chelsea fan little dwarf who speaks so much crap its unbelivable!! then you have the italian waiter who is so bent he couldnt sleep in his bed straight!!!!! i say it will be a great day when those three pi,s off and leave rangers for good! W*nkerS!!
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Post by londonranger on Oct 20, 2010 17:50:27 GMT
Thanks Bowles. Makes me feel some alliance. Ive been an Rs fan since 1940 and I dont have too many years left. Hoping
for one more run in the top flight before the final curtain.
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Post by harlowranger on Oct 20, 2010 17:58:02 GMT
What COLINS W*nkerS ? Im just hoping Flabs comments this week dont piss Neil off ! We'll get back up there London know worries ! Havnt been to Shep Bush Empire Sat Week !Burnley game ! Trying to get out of it Mrs wants me to see UB40 ! not my cuppa tea!
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Post by londonranger on Oct 20, 2010 18:07:29 GMT
Well H, marriage does bring us into grin and bear it places, doesnt it? Thanks for note. Yes the Empire and the Hammy Pally.
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Post by ingham on Oct 20, 2010 18:43:26 GMT
Quite so, and well put. But it says something for the way things are that when I read your post, I wasn't always quite sure which of them you were talking about ... any more than when I read what I'd been saying! ;D
Common sense says that all Warnock has to do is to go on winning. If he does, he should be unassailable.
But maybe not. Maybe Briatore is reminding us that success - and the admiration of others - isn't everything. Few managers, let alone 'investors', know anything about winning, in any case. Not in the sense that they actually win anything of consequence.
It seems possible, perhaps likely, that success isn't what they're selling at all. Not unless vanity has overwhelmed reality. What they're really selling is the prospect that there might be success.
More important than that might be power. Does Briatore really care whether QPR, or Warnock, or the supporters or anyone else is successful or happy. Why would he? Surely he is only interested in his 70%. It's the prospects for the 70% that preoccupy him. If they are good, the rest is irrelevant.
Wasn't there a story that Brian Clough decided to bring the Derby board to their senses, duly resigned, and they just sat there and called his bluff. What did they care that he was Derby's only chance of success? Thanks, Brian. Now eff off.
What did they care about Derby?
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Post by ingham on Oct 20, 2010 18:47:18 GMT
Didn't realise, londonranger. As a mere 1960-61 new boy, I am now typing this on my knees. 1940. Awe. And more Awe. I may have been a twinkle in my parents' eye, but if I was, their foreplay took nearly as long as the Rs have to get into the top flight again .
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Post by londonranger on Oct 20, 2010 19:30:54 GMT
LOL An interesting ride for all of us. Have to protect against too much brain damage though.
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Post by cpr on Oct 20, 2010 19:53:45 GMT
London, won't be too much longer mate, stick with us Ingham, that made me LARF OUT LOUD. Also for Clough and his removal, see Mourinho at the scum. Is there a comparison for us?
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Post by Bushman on Oct 20, 2010 21:16:11 GMT
Thanks Bowles. Makes me feel some alliance. Ive been an Rs fan since 1940 and I dont have too many years left. Hoping for one more run in the top flight before the final curtain. Jesus london I thought my first outing in 1959 was going some. Listen to me london . Do NOT go into the light. We will get there
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Post by manta on Oct 20, 2010 22:52:23 GMT
I used to be supportive of briatore but reading articles like this makes me very mad. I really wish he wasn't at the club and just moved on.
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Post by Hogan on Oct 20, 2010 23:15:06 GMT
Maybe, there is a big new sponsorship being put into place and they are bigging up the club by associating us with Lippi. Possible?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 20, 2010 23:56:39 GMT
Why cant the Mittals just loosen up and pay all three off and get them away from the club asap. At least it will shut them up and stop disrupting the club from it's positive start and as a bonus, ITK people would be left without a sauce.
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Post by Hogan on Oct 21, 2010 1:20:57 GMT
Because they are close friends, they aint gonna fall out over little old QPR.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 21, 2010 6:13:31 GMT
Same story hits the Sun and Mirror (both based on Italian story) Nothing new MIRROR - QPR owner dreams of Premier League life with Lippi Published 23:00 20/10/10 By Steve Goodman QPR joint owner Flavio Briatore last night declared his aim to reward boss Neil Warnock for winning promotion to the Premier League ... by replacing him with Marcello Lippi. Warnock has led Rangers to the top of the Championship, and they are still unbeaten after 12 games. But Formula 1 mogul Briatore, who stepped down as Loftus Road chairman in February, has now dealt the former Sheffield United boss a snub by saying he wants Lippi in charge if QPR go up. The Italian previously sacked a succession of managers before making way for current chairman Ishan Saksena. “Myself and Bernie Ecclestone have a 70 per cent stake in Queens Park Rangers, and we are top of the league table,” Briatore told Italian magazine Chi. “If we go into the Premier League, I have a dream. That is to have Marcello Lippi as our coach.” Lippi led Italy to World Cup triumph in 2006, but has been out of work since quitting as Azzurri coach following this summer’s finals, Read more: www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/QPR-owner-Falvio-Briatore-wants-Italy-s-Marcelo-Lippi-to-become-manger-if-the-club-are-promoted-to-the-Premier-League-article608165.html#ixzz12yGWZkV3 SUN - Flavio is Full of Lippi FLAVIO BRIATORE has revealed his plan to reward Neil Warnock if he wins promotion - by replacing him at QPR with Marcello Lippi. Boss Warnock has led Rangers to the top of the Championship. But joint owner Briatore said: "If we go into the Premier League, I have a dream. That is to have Lippi as our coach www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3189724/Flavio-Briatore-dreams-of-Marcello-Lippi.html
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 21, 2010 6:17:48 GMT
I'm waiting for the Warburton story with club source denying it
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 21, 2010 6:18:28 GMT
As another person asked, how on earth did he get to be so damn rich when he consistantly opens his mouth and puts his foot in it.
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Post by ingham on Oct 21, 2010 8:52:12 GMT
On the other hand, this is nothing new. Stock was gone as soon as we were in the top flight, for one reason or another. Jago, too. And their successors, Sexton and Venables, who were more marketable to bigger Clubs, were gone almost at once. Sexton only managed one more season after the golden one of 76, and Venables only stayed one season when we reached the top flight.
The nasty thing about football is that you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Sexton and Venables left their Clubs when they decided they could do better with us. Not because they loved us, or particularly wanted to be here rather than somewhere else (despite what Venables says now and then). Because when they decided they could do better elsewhere, they were soon gone.
I find it remarkable that Liverpool had a plan. Mostly to do with the ball and the game, too. And they just kept on working at it, studying the results, and doing what they could to improve it. Once they solved the great mystery that had eluded everyone else - to keep the same side together, but to prevent it becoming stale (change one player every year) - and it took them nearly 10 years to work that out, if not longer - they were laughing.
The only thing that could stop the machine was the despised directors, and, of course, they could hardly wait to do so once Shankly and Paisley were gone.
But which other Club has the insight, discipline, long term vision, and conception of the Club as a thing APART from the machinations of its so-called 'investors'?
Have we ended up with short term mercenaries in the dugout and long term half-wits in the directors box because we have lost all conception of the Club as something to which EVERYONE should owe allegiance (as the Boot Room did), something to which every should belong.
But the tenor of the modern game is to assent to the boardroom clowns when they tell us that the Club belongs to THEM. The supporters are putting their money in, but everyone else - including Warnock, is taking out far more than the Club can afford.
After all, most of them don't expect to be at QPR quite as long as Bob Paisley was at Liverpool.
So there is very little likelihood that any of them will learn anywhere near as much. Let alone get the chance to put any of it into practice.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 21, 2010 10:01:31 GMT
Story now in virtually every paper in the country. '
FABULOUS MOVE FLAVIO
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 15, 2010 20:39:18 GMT
Bump: How the "Briatore/Ecclestone Own 70 Percent of QPR" was announced last month - and reacted to. Of course most of the focus was on the "I Dream of Lippi"
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Post by cpr on Nov 15, 2010 21:03:57 GMT
More importantly was Flavio telling froggy, face to face, which is far more meaningful than newspaper tosh as far as I'm concerned.
We also cannot allow a poster's exclusive interview to be forgotten so lightly. ;D
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 15, 2010 21:07:07 GMT
You are so right. I am so profoundly apologetic This was Froggy Ranger's World Wide Scoop Froggy RangerOk I nabbed him as he got up to leave. He was very polite and we chatted for a couple of minutes. 1. Said that he and Bernie still owned 70 percent and the mittals 20 or 30 (didn't quite hear clearly enough). 2. Him and Bernie have no intention of selling at the moment. And that a lot of rubbish has been written in the press about them selling. 3. Appointed Ishan as he realized it was necessary for him to take a step back. 4. Very happy with how it is going generally at the club at the mo. 5. Doesn't know yet how serious buzaky's injury is. 6. Agrees that we have missed Faurlin but says he will be back in the team tomorrow evening. All in all he came across as polite and willing to chat." qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=17249&page=1
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