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Post by QPR Report on Nov 8, 2009 10:02:28 GMT
According to Sunday People The People November 2009 - Man City set for Moussa Sissoko £20m raid - Manchester City are lining up a £20million raid for French midfielder Moussa Sissoko. - And Eastlands boss Mark Hughes is ready to win the race for QPR wonderboy Raheem Sterling. - Moneybags City have made Toulouse star Sissoko their leading target in the January transfer window and it is believed that super-agent Pini Zahavi is trying to engineer a transfer.... "...- City were impressed by Sterling, 14, when he made his international debut last week and are set to match QPR's £1m-plus asking price. - He was sensational for England Under-16s, turning the game against Northern Ireland in the Victory Shield when he set up both goals in a 2-0 win. - Boss Jim Magilton wants to play Sterling in his first team when he turns 15 next month - as People Sport revealed last week - but he could be gone even sooner because of the hype currently surrounding the player. - City talent-spotters Brian Marwood and Brian Kidd watched in amazement and started work on teeing-up the deal after the match. - Sterling looks unlikely to sign a contract being offered by QPR, and we can reveal Arsenal have also made an approach and would pay £500,000. Manchester United and Liverpool are both interested. - www.people.co.uk/sport/football/tm_method=full%26objectID=21806046%26siteID=93463-name_page.html
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 8, 2009 20:35:24 GMT
And when I see suggestions that we might WANT to sell him (forget that we might not be ABLE to keep him) that's pretty disturbing. And makes one wonder again if there's anything to it - as there was with Parrett when the desire to sell was more than just a player determination.
When push comes to shove, we haven't spent a lot of money in the last year...
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Post by cpr on Nov 8, 2009 21:08:51 GMT
Doesn't say there we WANT to sell him.
The point is, we cannot keep him, it would seem.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 8, 2009 21:11:36 GMT
Well Paladini, step up to the plate and ensure he stays or do you just specialise in getting crap players for the club? Show some form.
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Post by grumpyolde on Nov 8, 2009 22:08:01 GMT
No good crying over spilled milk.
The time to do something about the youth set up was when the new owners came in.
Of course they made all the usual noises of how important developing our own talent is, but what is the reality. The improvements they have made are zero - sweet F. A. Just where are the young pro's who won back to back titles as U18's now? Most of them are on the bench at non league clubs hoping for a game of any kind because they can't get one here.
Now the miracle has happened and it looks as though we have unearthed a real diamond. Can we keep him ? Would you stay if you were him ? I know I wouldn't. As always talk is cheap - but improving the youth set up wouldn't have been so expensive, you only need one winner to make it all worthwhile.
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Post by NO1QPRNZ on Nov 8, 2009 22:10:02 GMT
Agree Andy, we need to hang onto these Kids as they will be worth more in the Future. GOUUUUALLWHITES.
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 8, 2009 22:11:29 GMT
Agree. But my point was we can't control if the kid really wants to leave. But we can control not WANTING to sell him - as we did with Parrett. (According to those who actually know the Parrett family) I have no idea if any board posters really know the Sterlings.
And apologies for any confusion: I didn't mean that the People story said we should sell him if got good offer. That was messageboard posting
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Post by londonranger on Nov 8, 2009 22:33:05 GMT
Hey mates, tell me about this Raheem. Never heard of im. We are QPR and we are in 4th place.
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 8, 2009 22:42:09 GMT
And we've been fourth before! We need a future as well as a present
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Post by londonranger on Nov 9, 2009 2:22:41 GMT
Party pooper.
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Post by cpr on Nov 9, 2009 8:21:28 GMT
Grumpy is spot on, it surprises me we still have boys at our youth setup as most clubs anywhere local to ours are superior. I mentioned before a friend who has removed his lad for example. He has gone to an "inferior" club with a far better youth setup. Seems it is more important to wear black boots, a typical daft as brush Birchamism. One of the major statements made, was to improve the foundations and reclaim academy status. This was something Paladini spoke of even before the money came in, this was spoken even more so. The first requirement being a covered playing surface. Two years on, no sign of even that. As for Sterling, London is right, the vast majority of fans had not heard of him before we read that manure had courted him as a guest at Anfield, since then he made the England U16 squad. As Mike pointed out, he was not in the original squad, so that is strange. As a result, Chester City were inundated by requests for tickets all apparently wanting to see the "QPR Wonderkid". For this I will commend the club, or Gallen in fact, for keeping him under the radar but in fact he has only recently also burst onto the scene with our U18's. As Grumpy quite rightly states, we do not have the setup that is good enough to bring on such talent. Attempting to hold on to him is probably just selfishness and will only hinder his development. After all, he will not be a first team regular at 15 even if he is with us long enough for Magilton to give him a start. Of the teams mentioned, for me, it would be Arsenal, with a caviat that he can come back on loan, or we have first refusal on a sale at an agreed price. Do not forget, it was vital to install a larger comfy corporate area, install a new restaurant, move people from their seats in South Africa stand to accomodate this, close the members bar in this same stand, upgrade all the empty boxes etc etc etc. The same urgency has sadly not been applied to the youth setup at Rangers. I hate to ask this but has anyone seen the facilities at Chels*** in Cobham? I have not seen a better place to not make it as a pro!!! Good luck to the lad, whatever happens he will alwyas have been discovered at Rangers so we can always take pride in that, if indeed he goes on to break through in a few years. You have to feel for Gallen and co, they know their setup simply cannot compete. Obviously, financially, there is no need to let him go but would anyone seriously commit millions to a 14 year old on the off chance? Commit that money to the system and thus ensure that any similar talent cannot possibly get their heads turned by the bigger and the better. Crewe is a great example, they rarely lose very young players but continue to supply good footballers at all levels.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Nov 9, 2009 9:20:52 GMT
Spot on CPR.
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Post by Markqpr on Nov 9, 2009 10:39:26 GMT
Are we really surprised that Raheem Sterling is off to a bigger club?
I'm pretty sure that QPR do not want to sell him but I'm also positive that if he leaves we will want money for him.
That is basically how this club is being run at the moment.
It's all about 'The show', to borrow a term from men's rounders (baseball).
There is no concept of trying to improve the youth facilities because who is going to pay to watch the 18 and unders play?
There is no instant return on that whereas all the ground 'improvements' are geared solely towards the match day experience of the wealthier fan.
After two years the promises that we would address the youth set up at the club has borne out to be lies.
I like Bircham and I wouldn't turn down a free holiday to Bharain either but it seems that marketing the club to achieve a higher attendance paying a high ticket price and making us more prolific and attractive in the eyes of foreign fans is far more important than our youth set up.
Once the club has become self sufficient thru fans paying the highest prices in the league maybe we can buy Sterling back.
We won't make any money on him in the short term if we keep him and as we are trying to turn the corner on self sufficiency it makes more sense to accept money for him rather than spend money on him.
It's not about a club with a history, a club with links to it's community looking to bring players thru, it's about putting on a show every time we play football and if we get to a position where we, the club, can afford to buy him back and therefore become more attractive to the TV viewer we most likely will.
As Ingham points out, only one club can actually win the Premiership and it's usually one of the same 3 each year, so why do the money men get involved at all with the clubs, if they can't win?
I think it's because they don't care about actually winning anything at all. All they care about is the money they can get out of the club because even though 95% of all clubs will win nothing and some will experience heartbreak, us the fans, will still dig into our pockets and turn up week in week out to simply watch (and very occasionally sing).
Guaranteed. In fact guaranteed enough to be able to take a loan out against future earnings. It's the size of the loan that is the real prize for these investors.
So why keep Sterling now?
OK we've got some media attention to add to the hype machine already in place to try and woo a new lot of supporters and could probably play him once or twice in the first team to try and keep him, but that would be detrimental to his progress to play him at such a high level only to keep him at the club instead of bringing him thru when it's best for him and us.
I'm not convinced Magic would play him but he knows there is a fight in the press over whether he stays or goes and he has to say the right things as far as the money men are concerned. It would be nice to hear the manager say 'Why are we talking about a fourteen year old boy for?' but those days are long gone and especially at our club, say the wrong thing out loud and your gone.
As long as we can convince enough fans to pay to watch the first team at a price that keeps the club running efficiently and in profit without having to invest in a youth policy then we won't.
As an entertainment business that works.
Welcome to the show - No Standing.
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Post by londonranger on Nov 9, 2009 15:00:54 GMT
Wonderful, brilliant posts, CP and Mark.
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Post by obk on Nov 9, 2009 15:23:44 GMT
If we sell him because we want to, not because we cannot keep him, then I will just cry If we must sell because he wants to go, then fair play, but start investing in youth development!!! and do it NOW!
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 9, 2009 15:32:59 GMT
If we sell him because we want to, not because we cannot keep him, then I will just cry If we must sell because he wants to go, then fair play, but start investing in youth development!!! and do it NOW! Fully agree. But some seem willing to sell him.. Guess those who know him might know more. How did he choose QPR in the first place? Has he just started to flourish? Or was he highly pursued, etc
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Post by cpr on Nov 9, 2009 15:39:43 GMT
I don't think anyone on here is willing to sell him but are giving reasons why. I assume you do not mean poeple on here though. All I know is he joined us when he was 10, the why's, how's and wherefore's I do not know. If we made him that good, can me make 10 more like him? Or doesn't it work like that!
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Post by eskey8 on Nov 9, 2009 15:44:22 GMT
If we do sell him, i hope they sell him with plently of performance related clauses for the future eg first team/international app etc.
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 9, 2009 15:49:01 GMT
When you think Defoe, you think West Ham; not Charlton
When you think Walcott, you think Arsenal and Swindon, not West Ham.
Sigh
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