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Post by Macmoish on Sept 8, 2012 23:52:50 GMT
Mirror
On shaky ground: Premier League refuses to scrap handshakes ahead of latest Terry-Ferdinand meetingChelsea play QPR on Saturday and the Rangers defender could decide to snub both John Terry and Ashly Cole in the pre-match ritual Defiant Premier League chiefs have no plans to scrap the pre-match handshakes when John Terry and Anton Ferdinand are due to go face-to-face for the first time this season. But that is unlikely to stop Ferdinand snubbing Terry before Saturday’s clash between QPR and Chelsea at Loftus Road. There are also doubts over whether Ferdinand will shake hands with Terry’s Chelsea team-mate Ashley Cole. Terry limped out of England’s win over Moldova with a twisted ankle and will now also miss Tuesday’s World Cup qualifier against Ukraine, but the 31-year-old is confident he’ll be fit to face QPR. Cole, out of both internationals, also hopes to make the game. Chelsea captain Terry was cleared of racially abusing Ferdinand by Westminster Magistrates’ Court in July, but is still facing an FA charge for allegedly using racially abusive language towards the QPR man. Terry denied the FA charge and requested a personal hearing. Court in the act: John Terry was cleared by the courts but still faces an FA charge Cole appeared as a witness for Terry in court and soon after Anton’s older brother Rio seemingly endorsed a tweet describing the left-back as a ‘choc ice’ – a slang term perceived as meaning black on the outside and white on the inside. Rio was hit with a £45,000 fine by the FA after being charged with improper conduct over the tweet. The Premier League cancelled the pre-match handshake, when Chelsea last played QPR in April after lawyers for Terry and Ferdinand made it clear neither man was prepared to take part in it and argued it could impact on the court case. But with the legal case now over, the Premier League insist there is no reason for them to once again ditch the handshakes.
The only way that could change is if both Chelsea and QPR make representation to the Premier League this week to request the handshakes are scrapped. QPR refuse to comment on the matter, while it is believed Chelsea are unlikely to approach Premier League chiefs.
The FA gave QPR and Chelsea permission not to take part in the pre-match handshake ahead of their FA Cup tie in January, but that was because Ferdinand had received a death threat. They have no plans to intervene this time around.
The Premier League did not cancel the pre-match handshake between Manchester United and Liverpool last season, when Luis Suarez refused to shake the hand of Patrice Evra.And Terry has been snubbed before, when Wayne Bridge would not shake his hand ahead of Chelsea’s game against Manchester City in 2010. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-refuses-to-scrap-handshakes-1313795
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 9, 2012 0:02:35 GMT
& John Terry GUARDIAN
Chelsea's John Terry faces tough task defending against the FA
Statistics stacked against former England captain as he prepares for disciplinary hearing over racial abuse charges Danny Taylor If there is one thing we know about John Terry by now it is that he is not ordinarily someone who lets insecurity pollute his mind. A man of "almost uncanny mental strength", to quote Chelsea's chairman, Bruce Buck, during those five days in July when Terry stood in the dock at Westminster magistrates' court and asked us to believe he was not guilty of a racist slur. "Other people have it," Buck told the trial, "but I've never seen it quite like John Terry has it." Terry is back at Loftus Road next Saturday, the first time he has played at QPR since the full excruciating details were laid bare about what happened when the sides met there last October. Yet you would back him to cope in front of a hostile crowd. The abuse will wash over him, just as it did when they met in the FA Cup at the end of January. Anton Ferdinand, and possibly others, may sooner chew on broken glass than touch flesh in the pre-match handshake, but Terry is conditioned not to be bothered by things like that. In court, there was no real emotion when the words "not guilty" were read out. Two of his supporters – thick-set, in their 50s – celebrated as though a goal had been scored, punching the air and shouting "get in". The woman with two kids in Chelsea shirts cracked open a bottle of pink Cava. But Terry was impassive. No visible signs of relief or joy, and certainly no tears. It is what happens after the game, specifically his disciplinary hearing with the Football Association, that might be weighing more heavily on his mind, especially if Terry has looked closely at the numbers and worked out the conviction rate in these cases is much higher than in the judicial system; staggeringly so. The FA, to put it into context, found a total of two not-guilty verdicts out of the 473 cases it heard in 2011. That is getting on for a one-in-250 ratio. Or 0.4%, to be precise. Which is markedly different to the Home Office figures for court cases, with one magistrates' hearing out of every six leading to non-conviction (16.7%), and marginally higher (18.2%) at crown court. The FA, in short, generally only takes on the cases it believes it will win, with a clear distinction between the degree of evidence it needs – operating on the balance of probabilities – compared to that required by a court to secure a criminal conviction. Terry has some of the sharpest legal minds in London working on his behalf and has always said he welcomes the chance to prove his innocence. To get off, however, he will have to be the exception rather than the norm. The alternative is yet more damage, this time potentially irreparable, to Terry's already tarnished reputation, plus intense scrutiny about his position in the England team and the sense, shared here, that the FA will have to look very closely at whether he can be selected again. Roy Hodgson says of course he can. The England manager has made it clear he wants to continue picking Terry unless there is "an enormous ban", but it is surely not that straightforward when a player has been charged with calling an opponent "a F***ing black c**t". Wishful thinking, perhaps, but England's footballers are meant to be ambassadors for their country. A guilty verdict within the game's own organisation should, at the very least, compel the people above Hodgson to discuss whether the decision is taken out of his hands. And rightly so. Chelsea, too, are entitled to be twitchy given that article 6.5 of the club's official charter promises "a zero-tolerance policy towards discrimination", meaning anyone found guilty of such an offence should expect the sack. Would they dare fire Terry? Put it this way, there's more chance of Roman Abramovich turning up at the local soup kitchen, but Chelsea must eventually hold their own inquiry. Anything else and they run the risk of undermining all their previous work at tackling race issues. The obvious get-out clause, should they need one, is that the chief magistrate, Howard Riddle, concluded in July that the case of racial abuse could not be proved beyond reasonable doubt. Riddle's 13-page judgment casts doubt on Terry's explanation, saying it "is, certainly under the cold light of forensic examination, unlikely", but the television footage was obscured and there were no independent witnesses who could disprove Terry's story, namely that he thought he heard Ferdinand accuse him of saying the offensive words as they argued about a disputed penalty appeal. Terry's defence was that, in his outrage, he repeated them back indignantly, but not as an insult. In other words that, yes, he did say it, but in a part-horrified, part-angry "as if?" tone. It was, in Riddle's words, "not the most obvious response". Kick It Out, the sport's leading anti-racism group, feels the same way, aligning itself with the Ferdinand family. The FA, using an independent commission chaired by a QC, is certainly entitled to put it to Terry that many people would consider it an unnatural choice of words in any circumstances. But there are quite a few things that don't stack up. Why, for instance, did the London Evening Standard run a story, in the hours after the game, with "a source close to Terry" in full damage-limitation mode, saying the word had been "blind" rather than "black" and that it was all a misunderstanding? Poppycock, as it turned out, but there is a serious issue here, surely, if the source of this story was working legitimately on Terry's behalf. Why, too, was the referee, Chris Foy, not summoned to give evidence in court? Terry told the court Foy had heard Ferdinand's alleged words. Yet Foy has told the Premier League he heard nothing. Foy was the nearest person to Ferdinand and his account should be key. The FA should also do everything it can to obtain mobile-phone records given that, in court, the prosecution put it to Ashley Cole, the key defence witness, that a cover-up had been orchestrated after the players started getting messages about internet footage of the relevant clip. Cole's response was that it was his recollection that there was never a signal in the dressing rooms at Loftus Road. Yet QPR say there is signal. The FA needs to know which version is correct. Then we come to the statements from Terry's colleagues and associates. Seventeen players, plus José Mourinho and even the guy who supplies Chelsea players with drivers. All confirmed they had never heard Terry make a racist remark. But why no Didier Drogba or Florent Malouda, or Mikel John Obi or Nicolas Anelka – senior, black players, all involved in the QPR game? Their absence may have a simple explanation, but it is strange, to say the least. Above all, the FA cannot be rushed, despite impatient calls demanding to know why the hearing has not already taken place. It was always going to be delayed until after Chelsea's game at QPR to avoid inflaming tensions ahead of an already volatile match. Before then, Terry should win his 79th England cap in Tuesday's game against Ukraine, providing the ankle he twisted in Moldova on Friday is not too bad. What nobody can guarantee is that there will be an 80th.www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/sep/08/john-terry-chelsea
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2012 0:35:53 GMT
this is what we want to see dont think there will be any hand shakes on Saturday at Loftus Road
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Post by robbie on Sept 9, 2012 1:22:36 GMT
wouldn't be surprised if anton was on the bench..... he hasn't exactly covered himself in glory so far this season... just saying ;D
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Post by Lonegunmen on Sept 9, 2012 3:13:16 GMT
Just friggen ditch the stupid prematch handshakes. Load of bollox. You're all psyched up to nail someone and you shake their hand?? WTF.
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Post by cpr on Sept 9, 2012 6:51:41 GMT
That Grauniad article is excellent. Finally a journo points out that he was not exactly "cleared" of wrongdoing, as the first article says and other lazy journalists repeat.
The clubs will do what they did before the FA cup match, it'll depend a lot on whether they play and how many plaers we have on the field that know about it now!!!
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Post by grenqpr on Sept 9, 2012 7:32:35 GMT
Ferdinand will be on the bench on Saturday. Problem solved. I take it that subs don't shake hands.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Sept 9, 2012 8:04:08 GMT
Ferdinand will be on the bench on Saturday. Problem solved. I take it that subs don't shake hands. Agreed. Will be M'Bia and Nelsen at CB IMO
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Post by sharky on Sept 9, 2012 10:01:50 GMT
Why the hell should Anton be made to pay for that no good Sc*m's racist comments. We need to stand firm with Anton (everyone, players staff and fans) and refuse to have anything to do with Terry. No handshakes, club support and fan support.
John Terry we know what you said!!!! .......and we will stand by Anton shoulder to shoulder.
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Post by grenqpr on Sept 9, 2012 10:26:24 GMT
Why the hell should Anton be made to pay for that no good Sc*m's racist comments. We need to stand firm with Anton (everyone, players staff and fans) and refuse to have anything to do with Terry. No handshakes, club support and fan support. Sharky my support for Ferdinand is unwavering. Am really impatient for the FA axe to fall on JT. But a defence that has shipped 9 gaols in the first 3 games needs to be shaken up. I am not saying the Anton is wholly to blame but I believe that Sparky will look to test other partnerships in the centre of defence. Read more: qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=33035#ixzz25xxFEKV9
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Post by sharky on Sept 9, 2012 10:34:06 GMT
Gren, not saying Anton should start, that's up to Sparky & co to decide based on form etc. What I am saying is that he shouldn't be kept out of the side to appease the FA and Terry, and that whether or not Anton plays no one should skake his hand, to send a message of solidarity with Anton who is the innocent victim!
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Post by bowranger on Sept 9, 2012 10:40:45 GMT
Why the hell should Anton be made to pay for that no good Sc*m's racist comments. We need to stand firm with Anton (everyone, players staff and fans) and refuse to have anything to do with Terry. No handshakes, club support and fan support. John Terry we know what you said!!!! .......and we will stand by Anton shoulder to shoulder. Whether he plays or not, I totally agree.
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Post by sharky on Sept 9, 2012 10:51:00 GMT
From the Daily Mail online
Terry could dodge date with Ferdinand at Loftus Road
By ROB DRAPER
PUBLISHED: 21:49 GMT, 8 September 2012 | UPDATED: 21:49 GMT, 8 September 2012
John Terry could be spared another handshake snub from Anton Ferdinand at QPR next Saturday because of the ankle injury he sustained against Moldova on Friday night.
England manager Roy Hodgson will study the latest medical reports on Terry's ankle injury on Sunday but is not hopeful the player will have recovered to play against the Ukraine on Tuesday.
Terry limped off a few minutes from the end of the 5-0 win in Moldova and Hodgson said: 'We don't think it's a major injury or whether it's a slight twist of the ankle … We play again on Tuesday, so I have to speak to the doctors.'
That must leave Chelsea captain Terry as a doubt for the highly charged return to Loftus Road, the fixture at which he was alleged to have racially abused Ferdinand almost a year ago.
Although Terry was cleared of a racially aggravated public order offence this summer, he now faces a Football Association charge of using insulting words, which included a reference to Ferdinand's 'ethnic origin, colour or race'.
The affair ultimately cost the 31-year-old the England captaincy, with the FA deeming it inappropriate he stayed in the role.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 9, 2012 21:50:27 GMT
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Post by terryb on Sept 10, 2012 16:45:27 GMT
It is very possible that Ferdinand, Terry & Cole will miss the game this saturday.
If that is the case I doubt that we could avoid the players shaking hands, but we as a crowd could let the authorities know what we think of their poxy pre match rules.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 11, 2012 6:49:09 GMT
Not exactly sure of it's importance, but whatever MAIL
EXCLUSIVE: FA won't ask Terry to submit his phone ahead of Ferdinand race hearingBy Matt Lawton The Football Association will not ask John Terry to submit his mobile phone records before appearing at the hearing into the racist allegations against him. Terry has been charged by the FA with using 'abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour' towards QPR's Anton Ferdinand, including 'a reference to ethnic origin and/ or colour and/or race'. John Terry (right) will not be asked to hand over his mobile phone ahead of the FA's hearing John Terry (right) will not be asked to hand over his mobile phone ahead of the FA's hearing It was thought that the phone records could shed some light on what happened that day, even though they were not used in evidence when Terry was acquitted of a racially aggravated public order offence at West London Magistrates' Court in July. As it remains a relatively minor offence in the eyes of the law, the Metropolitan Police were not able to seize Terry's phone records or those of Ferdinand or other witnesses. But it was believed that an FA Independent Regulatory Commission could have requested the phone records in an attempt to better understand what happened on the pitch and afterwards in the dressing room area at Loftus Road on October 23. Sportsmail understands, however, that the FA have no plans to make such a request. Terry played for England against Moldova on Friday but i t is believed he had become deeply disillusioned with the FA for deciding to press on with their case despite his acquittal. A hearing that does not include his personal phone records as evidence would certainly be regarded as less confrontational by the Chelsea captain www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2201282/EXCLUSIVE-FA-wont-ask-John-Terry-submit-phone.html
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Post by sharky on Sept 11, 2012 14:12:46 GMT
From lifesapitch
Why Terry missing the QPR match would be best for everyoneby
Mike Calvin
There will be a hero-sized hole in the England defence against Ukraine at Wembley tonight. John Terry, Chelsea’s warrior king, has been carried out on his shield once too often. Without wishing to sound uncharitable, this may not be entirely a bad thing.
Before Chelsea fans take up their cyber-cudgels, that is not intended as a malevolent judgement on their captain, leader, legend. Even those who cannot abide Terry are unable to question the sense of commitment which prompted him, unwisely, to play for 20 minutes on a damaged ankle in Moldova.
But his return to Chelsea for treatment, to give himself the best possible chance of making an emotionally-charged return to Loftus Road on Saturday, generates a genuine sense of foreboding. This could get ugly – fast.
While his defiance is in character – even his fiercest critics recognise his uncanny ability to compartmentalise calamity – it may not be for the best. The last thing Terry needs is for the football authorities to have their Respect campaign made to look even more foolish than it already does.
If Anton Ferdinand makes his own recovery from a shoulder injury, there is no conceivable way he will submit himself to the specious ritual of a pre-match handshake from a man he last faced across a courtroom. Terry, who was found not guilty of racially abusing Ferdinand in court in July, has also denied an identical FA charge, the hearing for which is likely to take place at the end of the month.
Should Terry be found guilty by the FA his future as an England player would be untenable, despite the public faith of Roy Hodgson, who seems unable to understand the broader implications of the case. Chelsea would come under pressure to reconcile their support for their captain with their corporate responsibilities.
There is already evidence to suggest Terry’s single-mindedness can be self-destructive. He was so desperate to play at QPR in the FA Cup in January he aggravated a knee injury so comprehensively he was out for six weeks. By the time he had recovered Chelsea’s senior players had seen off André Villas-Boas.
Terry’s combative nature will place greater strain on his body as he gets older. He may ignore the abuse he receives, but he cannot ignore the ravages of time. He will continue to rage against the dying of the light, but it is beginning to flicker and fade.
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Post by sharky on Sept 11, 2012 15:47:38 GMT
From Daily Mail online
Ferdinand and Terry on collision course with defenders winning fitness battles
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 15:05 GMT, 11 September 2012 | UPDATED: 15:05 GMT, 11 September 2012
Anton Ferdinand is expected to be fit for QPR's highly-charged Barclays Premier League clash with Chelsea on Saturday.
Ferdinand suffered a shoulder injury in the 3-1 defeat by Manchester City on September 1 but trained on Tuesday and is likely to feature in the west London derby.
With John Terry reportedly winning his battle with the ankle injury sustained on England duty against Moldova, the two defenders are on course to meet for the first time since the Chelsea captain's race trial in July.
Terry was found not guilty of using a racial slur against Ferdinand in the corresponding fixture last October, but remains the subject of a Football Association investigation over the charges that he denies.
It is not yet known whether Ferdinand will shake Terry's hand before kick-off at Loftus Road on Saturday.
In both matches since last October, the traditional pre-match hand-shake was abandoned in advance.
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Post by cpr on Sept 11, 2012 15:50:15 GMT
Sharky, may I thank you for finding to articles that state he was found not guilty as opposed to cleared, very different meaning so nice to see actual facts in use.
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Post by sharky on Sept 12, 2012 22:45:56 GMT
From Daily mail online www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2202247/Rio-Anton-Ferdinand-snub-Ashley-Cole-handshake.htmlAnd from the Mirror Double trouble: Anton Ferdinand ready to snub Terry AND Cole Premier League wants traditional pre-match handshakes to happen at Loftus Road on Saturday despite ongoing racism saga involving the trio Anton Ferdinand is set to deliver a handshake snub to John Terry AND Ashley Cole. Ferdinand will meet with his QPR manager, Mark Hughes, on Thursday to discuss the pre-match ritual ahead of Saturday's west London derby, but has told friends he is determined not to acknowledge the Chelsea pair. It is understood that Queens Park Rangers may ask for the teams' traditional handshake to be abandoned to defuse the atmosphere at Loftus Road, although the Premier League have made it clear they want it to go ahead. The handshake was scrapped last season when the sides met in the FA Cup following Terry's bust-up with Ferdinand in a Premier League fixture weeks before. Terry was cleared of racially abusing Ferdinand in court but the case is still under FA investigation and the Chelsea captain could face a lengthy ban if found guilty at the FA hearing. Cole testified for Terry, while Ferdinand's brother Rio retweeted a message that labelled Cole a "choc ice". Manchester United defender Rio was punished by the FA and the incident has deepened the bad feeling between him, Anton and Cole. Now QPR defender Ferdinand is considering snubbing Cole in the pre-match ritual this weekend. Friend in need: Cole spoke for Terry at his trial this summer Getty Premier League chiefs feel the teams' handshake should take place, even if Ferdinand and his fellow Hoops would not be pressured to specifically acknowledge Terry. Hughes gave his men the day off on Wednesday following the globe-trotting international exertions of many members of his multi-national squad. The QPR manager plans to have a proper discussion on the issue with Ferdinand to decide on the club's approach to the situation and whether they will urge the Premier League to intervene. Terry and Cole missed England's draw with Ukraine on Tuesday through injury but are both hopeful of being fit - they are determined not to be seen to be ducking the QPR game.
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Post by sharky on Sept 13, 2012 9:26:11 GMT
From the Telegraph online www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9539856/Queens-Park-Rangers-defender-Anton-Ferdinand-to-refuse-to-shake-hands-with-Chelseas-John-Terry-and-Ashley-Cole.htmlQueens Park Rangers defender Anton Ferdinand to refuse to shake hands with Chelsea's John Terry and Ashley Cole Anton Ferdinand is not planning to shake the hand of John Terry or Ashley Cole before Queens Park Rangers’ match against Chelsea on Saturday, although there will be further discussions today about how best to handle the situation. By Jeremy Wilson12:20AM BST 13 Sep 2012 The Premier League is adamant that the traditional pre-match handshake should go ahead regardless of any tension between individuals and QPR could still request that the gesture is suspended completely. The atmosphere will be particularly highly charged given Terry’s previous visit to Loftus Road last October when he became embroiled in a verbal exchange with Ferdinand but was eventually cleared in Westminster Magistrates’ Court of racially abusing the QPR defender. Cole appeared as a character witness for Terry at the trial and said “I think we shouldn’t be sitting here”. Terry, though, has been charged by the Football Association over the incident. He denies the charge and has requested a personal hearing, which is expected to begin on Sept 24. Ferdinand will meet with advisers and club staff today before making a final decision about Saturday but, as of last night, was minded not to shake the hand of either Chelsea player. Anton’s brother, Rio Ferdinand, was also drawn into the fallout from Terry’s court case after he responded to another Twitter user who had described Cole as a ‘”choc-ice”. Rio Ferdinand was fined £45,000 for the posting, which he later deleted and said was a slang term that was used to describe someone as “fake”. There remains some doubt over the fitness of Terry and Cole for Saturday’s match. Both missed England’s 1-1 draw against Ukraine on Tuesday but did return to light outdoor training on Wednesday.
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Post by Bushman on Sept 14, 2012 8:48:50 GMT
Zamora happy to shake Terry´s hand 14 September 2012 Queens Park Rangers striker Bobby Zamora says he will shake John Terry's hand when his side meet Chelsea on Saturday. The two teams clash at Loftus Road in the first meeting between the pair since Terry was cleared of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand last October, but Zamora is looking forward to facing his old friend. "I've known John Terry for years and he's a very good friend of mine. We grew up together and of course I'll shake his hand if he's playing on Saturday," Zamora told The Sun. "All this stuff happened a long time before I joined QPR. I came in as an outsider to it and I won't be paying attention to any of it. "John is a very good player and it's going to be a real battle between us. I'm sure it's not going to be an enjoyable game with him coming through the back and smashing the life out of me. "But that's what he's been like ever since we played together in Barking for Senrab when we were 13 along with Ledley King, Paul Konchesky and Jlloyd Samuel. "My abiding image of JT then was a box-to-box midfielder with a curtains haircut, smashing in headers from corners. "We've stayed in touch ever since and for me this game will simply be a case of getting out there, doing my job and getting points on the board for QPR." The atmosphere at Loftus Road is expected to be in stark contrast to the recent Olympics but the former West Ham man says he is not interested in what people say about footballers. He added: "I don't watch any sport. I didn't even know Andy Murray had won the tennis until someone told me the other day. Before the Olympics I said I wasn't going to watch a single thing. "As it turned out I did see a few bits — the 100 metres and a couple of the other main events. "As far as I'm concerned, the guys who competed at the Olympics... brilliant. But the Olympics are over now and all the focus is back on football. And whatever people are saying about us doesn't really bother me." uk.soccerway.com/news/2012/September/14/zamora-happy-to-shake-terrys-hand/
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Post by sharky on Sept 15, 2012 0:12:26 GMT
From the Community Newspaper Group, but all over papers
Hughes questions pre-match handshakes
12:08am Saturday 15th September 2012 in National Sport News © Press Association 2012
Mark Hughes has questioned the merits of the pre-match handshake
QPR manager Mark Hughes has strongly hinted that he believes the pre-match handshake should be abandoned.
The ritual will become the centre of attention when QPR host Chelsea on Saturday in the first meeting between Anton Ferdinand and John Terry since the England defender's race trial in July. Terry was found not guilty of using a racial slur against Ferdinand in the corresponding fixture last October, but remains the subject of a Football Association investigation.
Ferdinand is expected to reject a handshake from Terry, ensuring all eyes will be locked upon them moments before kick-off. "The handshake is part of the Respect campaign and we all fully support that. It's done fantastic work and is to be commended," Hughes said. "But maybe this part of showing respect is fundamentally flawed."
He added: "Should there be a discussion in terms of how we show respect? Is this the best way to do that?
"It's open to debate and that's why I was asking about it at the Premier League meeting. Maybe after the match would be better.
"For our FA Cup match with Chelsea in January we didn't do it and that helped the situation."
A sizzling atmosphere is expected for a highly-charged derby that will see QPR attempt to seal their first Barclays Premier League victory of the season.
Roberto Di Matteo, meanwhile, has no concerns about John Terry's mental or physical wellbeing ahead of Chelsea's clash with QPR.
Di Matteo said: "As a human being there are certain aspects of life that will faze you.
"But, if you look at his career, he's always got on with it. He's a confident player."
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Post by sharky on Sept 15, 2012 0:21:29 GMT
It's now clear that if Anton is selected, he'll refuse to shake Terry and Cole's hands. My question is, will the FA then charge him for that? If so, we might have the crazy situation of Terry getting off his racist slur, but Anton being sanctioned for refusing to shake the hand of the man who by his own admission made the slur and his supporter!!
All Rs fans need to make it clear that we stand behind Anton on this one, not ifs, not buts.
JOHN TERRY WE KNOW WHAT YOU SAID
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Post by bowranger on Sept 15, 2012 1:24:12 GMT
It's now clear that if Anton is selected, he'll refuse to shake Terry and Cole's hands. My question is, will the FA then charge him for that? If so, we might have the crazy situation of Terry getting off his racist slur, but Anton being sanctioned for refusing to shake the hand of the man who by his own admission made the slur and his supporter!! All Rs fans need to make it clear that we stand behind Anton on this one, not ifs, not buts. JOHN TERRY WE KNOW WHAT YOU SAID Totally agree with the sentiment, we've got to stand beside Anton and let him know that we support him and that our fans have zero tolerance to racism. I don't think he'd get an FA sanction for it because of the ongoing case against Terry. The FA are ridiculous a lot of the time but I think it's even beyond them to claim that something like that is bringing the game into disrepute - it's perfectly logical.
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Post by sharky on Sept 15, 2012 6:08:59 GMT
From the news
Terry, Cole ready to shake hands with Ferdinand
Saturday, September 15, 2012 From Print Edition
LONDON: Chelsea manager Roberto Di Matteo has confirmed John Terry and Ashley Cole are expected to take part in the potentially explosive pre-match handshake with QPR’s Anton Ferdinand at Loftus Road on Saturday. Terry and Cole have recovered from the ankle injuries which ruled them out of England’s World Cup qualifier against Ukraine on Tuesday and that means the duo are in line for a showdown with QPR defender Ferdinand. In July, Chelsea captain Terry was cleared in court of racially abusing Ferdinand during a Premier League match at QPR last year, with Cole giving evidence as a character witness for his teammate. Terry, who was stripped of the England armband by the Football Association before his trial, is still facing a separate FA charge over the incident and that hearing is expected to begin on September 24. Ferdinand, Terry and Cole are set to come face to face on Saturday for the first time since the trial and the Premier League have insisted the pre-match handshake, which was cancelled ahead of the clubs’ last two meetings, will go ahead. Reports in the build-up to the West London derby claim Ferdinand is planning to ignore Terry and Cole during the traditional greeting, while some of his QPR teammates may also refuse to shake hands with the Chelsea defenders. With bad feeling still lingering, Chelsea and QPR officials have held talks in a bid to defuse the tension, but Di Matteo insists his players will all take part in the handshake as usual. “We’ll go ahead with it, yes,” Di Matteo said on Friday. “We’re going to respect the rules and the protocol that is in place from the Premier League and set a positive standard to the millions of people watching across the world.” “They’ve recovered (from injury), had a couple of days training and we expect them to be available for tomorrow (Saturday).” Di Matteo revealed he had held talks with QPR manager Mark Hughes, a former team-mate of the Italian at Chelsea, but did not know whether the home players would snub Terry and Cole. “I do not know, but I hope that they will as well respect the rules and go ahead with it and we can all focus on the football,” Di Matteo added. QPR striker Bobby Zamora has indicted he would shake the hand of Terry, whom he played alongside at schoolboy level. “I’ve known John Terry for years and he’s a very good friend of mine,” Zamora told the Sun. “We grew up together and of course I’ll shake his hand if he’s playing on Saturday.” Meanwhile, QPR boss Hughes confirmed he has spoken to Ferdinand and the rest of his squad about the issue, but he wouldn’t reveal what was said. “We’ve had a discussion with the players but that’s between myself and them. We don’t have to broadcast that,” Hughes said. “Everybody has a mind of their own and will make a personal decision. “It’s unfortunate that they’re in a situation where it’s in the public domain. Anton is fine, there’s no problem with him.” Hughes hinted he would prefer it if the handshake ritual was scrapped completely. “I’ve got my own views on the handshake and I raised those at Premier League level even before this season started,” he said. “We’ll be guided by the Premier League and will respect the handshake if we’re told that’s what needs to happen. “It’s not my decision to make. We’re governed by the Premier League and if we’re told it will go ahead, then we will do that. “We haven’t spoken to them but I imagine they’ll insist the handshake goes ahead.”
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Post by cpr on Sept 15, 2012 7:36:30 GMT
It's a pointless exercise anyway, unless it's on the BBC nobody sees it anyway as they go to adverts. Di Matteo should be well aware of that so his comment on doing it is equally meaningless. They only show the handshake if it looks likely to have an issue! Having said that, I have seen a few this season so perhaps the word has gone out to the broadcasters.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 15, 2012 7:58:55 GMT
Have to confess that this repeated "Handshake" debate is getting a little wearisome.
Anyway, in the next week or so, I believe the FA John Terry hearing is meant to be held
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Post by cpr on Sept 15, 2012 8:08:04 GMT
Last evening on SSN Super Ray was on between 7-8 reviewing today's games. The only thing about us they asked was whether there would be a handshake!!! :0
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Post by cpr on Sept 15, 2012 8:11:24 GMT
BBC Breakfast show, the little sports presenter. "Queen's Park Rangers take on Chels*** today and all eyes will be on Anton Ferdinand to see if he shakes hands with John Terry and Ashley Cole"!!!
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