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« Thread Started on Sept 1, 2012, 9:10pm »

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guardian.co.uk, Friday 31 August 2012 11.37 EDT

Michel Platini has reiterated his resistance to goalline technology and restated his support for having five referees at matches, suggesting officials from countries who introduce that system will be given priority when it comes to overseeing games in European competitions.

Uefa has compiled data after trialling the five-man system in around 1,000 matches across Europe and Platini, the governing body's president, is convinced the strategy of having an extra official standing behind each goal offers the most accurate alternative to the introduction of technology.

Serie A has adopted the system this season, and both the Champions and Europa Leagues will continue to implement it in the campaign ahead, with the Uefa president and his chief refereeing officer, Pierluigi Collina, claiming referees would need to gain experience of how the system works in their domestic leagues.

"Uefa will suggest additional assistant referees are the solution we want for the future," Platini said. "The Italian league has already adopted the system this season and are rather happy with it already. Some associations will take longer than others, but the big European competitions will be using it, so we will give priority to referees from those national associations who are using the five-referee system so there is understanding among the team of five referees. It makes sense that we use officials from national associations who use it every week. That is not a threat, but we can still give 'advice'."

The Premier League will scrutinise the detailed analysis gathered using the five-man system – Platini insisted the mistake by a Hungarian official in failing to award Ukraine a goal against England at Euro 2012 when the ball crossed the line was the "only error" picked up in three years – but will consider using it in England.

"We have not had the most recent set of analysis and clearly we would want to study that," said a Premier League spokesman. "But generally where developments are proven to improve the standard of officiating it's always something the English game would look at."

Platini's opposition to goalline technology is long-standing and had been aired most recently at his closing media conference at Euro 2012, when he had also floated the idea that the 2020 European Championship could be staged in cities across 13 different countries. Those innovative proposals remain in discussion and will be addressed in December.

"We have meetings with the national federations and will have feedback at the end of the year," added Platini. "My preference is to have 13 different countries for 2020. I want the semi-finals and final to be in one city, and four games each at 12 other different venues.

"We will see. As for technology, I don't think it's good for football. Maybe goalline technology, but that would be the first step towards the introduction of technology in all areas of the game. I'm still very much against it and, to be honest, I'm not going to change my mind at the age of 57."

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« Reply #1 on Sept 1, 2012, 9:25pm »

I STILL agree with him. :P

Blattface only changed his mind when England finally benefitted from a poor decision.
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« Reply #2 on Sept 1, 2012, 9:43pm »

I'm opposed to all these anti English toss pots in charge of the game!
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« Reply #3 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:04pm »

There should be FULL video refs . Rugby league is massive over here and you wont see a more passionate game than Origin..
Video decisions take seconds and dont affect the game at all.
It would stop cheating C@nts like Teves and that orrible Norwich C@nt..
Honestly .get video in there .. Its a joke ..pple getting banned .. clubs going down or up on a sh!te decision..
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« Reply #4 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:06pm »

No can do, any rule changes must be appliable at all levels of football.

So, NO!!!!
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« Reply #5 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:12pm »


Sept 1, 2012, 10:06pm, cpr wrote:
No can do, any rule changes must be appliable at all levels of football.

So, NO!!!!

See your point but WHY ?? It happens for baseball ,american football. rugby league..
Time to get out of the dark ages...
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Sept 1, 2012, 10:12pm, ozzh00p wrote:

Sept 1, 2012, 10:06pm, cpr wrote:
No can do, any rule changes must be appliable at all levels of football.

So, NO!!!!

See your point but WHY ?? It happens for baseball ,american football. rugby league..
Time to get out of the dark ages...


martial arts .. synchronised swimming , cricket . athletics , every sport known to man has embraced technology..

time for change..
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« Reply #7 on Sept 2, 2012, 3:06am »


Sept 1, 2012, 10:04pm, ozzh00p wrote:
There should be FULL video refs . Rugby league is massive over here and you wont see a more passionate game than Origin..
Video decisions take seconds and dont affect the game at all.
It would stop cheating C@nts like Teves and that orrible Norwich C@nt..
Honestly .get video in there .. Its a joke ..pple getting banned .. clubs going down or up on a sh!te decision..


Agree with you ozz. And for the cheats, how about this for a deterrent. Even named after our illustrious manager, how I feel would give his full support. 8-)


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Sept 1, 2012, 10:04pm, ozzh00p wrote:
There should be FULL video refs . Rugby league is massive over here and you wont see a more passionate game than Origin..
Video decisions take seconds and dont affect the game at all.
It would stop cheating C@nts like Teves and that orrible Norwich C@nt..
Honestly .get video in there .. Its a joke ..pple getting banned .. clubs going down or up on a sh!te decision..


Exactly. The NRL seem to run quite nicely with theirs.
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« Reply #9 on Sept 2, 2012, 10:00am »

Another antipodean in agreement. Remember the most English of games, cricket has embraced technology at the elite level, so why not football. Tennis can tell you to a millimettre in seconds if the ball is in or out so football could too.

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« Reply #10 on Sept 2, 2012, 10:22am »

Of course NFL is pure stoppage all the time...So there's certainly no rhyhm broken up by having video technnology.
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« Reply #11 on Sept 2, 2012, 11:30am »

in these times when clubs are spending fortunes in order to stay in a league

and it is obvious that football is just business now for those splashing the cash

it could and will ruin clubs and put them out od business going down you

cannot have decisions such as our clint hill header being missed and sending a

club down due to idiotic and lazy refereeing.

not necessarily goal line technology but half the time the replay is shown on big screens anyway.

if a side is in disagreement why can the ref not leave the field of play to view

the replay , i know the game will take longer but hey half the fun and lets

face it if we just gone 1-0 down to a very dubious decision and the ref left

the field to check and reversed the decision i certainly wouldnt have been

complaining , would you.

it may even have got us a few more points last season.
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« Reply #12 on Sept 2, 2012, 11:59am »

On the other hand, we always focus on the ones that we don't get. I just think over a season, decisions for us and against us, average out
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Sept 2, 2012, 11:59am, Macmoish wrote:
On the other hand, we always focus on the ones that we don't get. I just think over a season, decisions for us and against us, average out

Not the point Mac. If you have the technology to eliminate these errors in a timely fashion (and they do), why not use it.
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« Reply #14 on Sept 2, 2012, 12:47pm »

They should be eliminating the diving the cheating and the faking of injuries.

How many times do you actually need goal line technology in a game?

American football, tennis and cricket are incomparable, football flows, those games are all stop start, as is Rugby league.
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Sept 2, 2012, 12:17pm, sharky wrote:

Sept 2, 2012, 11:59am, Macmoish wrote:
On the other hand, we always focus on the ones that we don't get. I just think over a season, decisions for us and against us, average out

Not the point Mac. If you have the technology to eliminate these errors in a timely fashion (and they do), why not use it.


It is the point and as Platini says, where do you draw the line? A ball crosses the line and technology proves it did, however the player who scored is in an offside position and the linesman misses it, that error is not eliminated is it.

Swings and roundabouts, most things do even themselves out, Bolton's non-gial at Chels*** proved that for last season.

Waste of money and effort due to the tiny percentage of football that can make use of such a massive change!
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« Reply #16 on Sept 2, 2012, 12:54pm »

Should just be full video refereeing but with a challenge system like in Tennis. Each time has a certain number of challenges per game (2 per team is fair IMO)
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Sept 2, 2012, 12:47pm, cpr wrote:
They should be eliminating the diving the cheating and the faking of injuries.

How many times do you actually need goal line technology in a game?

American football, tennis and cricket are incomparable, football flows, those games are all stop start, as is Rugby league.

Agree about the diving and cheating cpr. With regards to football flowing again I agree but with the technology they now have, the Ref can be alerted almost instantaneously when the ball is totally over the line, so the game will still flow.

As I said before, JUST DO IT!!!
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Sept 2, 2012, 2:52pm, sharky wrote:

Sept 2, 2012, 12:47pm, cpr wrote:
They should be eliminating the diving the cheating and the faking of injuries.

How many times do you actually need goal line technology in a game?

American football, tennis and cricket are incomparable, football flows, those games are all stop start, as is Rugby league.

Agree about the diving and cheating cpr. With regards to football flowing again I agree but with the technology they now have, the Ref can be alerted almost instantaneously when the ball is totally over the line, so the game will still flow.

As I said before, JUST DO IT!!!


At what level should this Nike thing take place and who pays for it?

Like I said, how often will it really be necessary?
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i dont care a hoot what platini says cos ......

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Sept 2, 2012, 3:39pm, andrewqpr wrote:
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« Reply #22 on Sept 2, 2012, 3:48pm »

Anything platini comes up with i want the opposite....English hating twhat.
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Sept 2, 2012, 3:48pm, scarletpimple wrote:
Anything platini comes up with i want the opposite....English hating twhat.


Blatter only changed his opinion only changed his opinion after we benefitted, at least the French twat stuck to his guns.
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Bit of a stutter there dear................mental problem?????
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That's technology for That's technology for you.
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« Reply #27 on Sept 2, 2012, 7:24pm »

we has hill missed goal , derry sent off for the penalty that never should have been as young was offside , thats the 2 i remember most and more than a couple of others on top of that .

we were lucky for a wrong decision how many times once i believe when we were offside and scored and the ref didnt see it.

we were well out of luck on decisions last season and lets not forget utd everyone says they always get the decisions etc especially at home.

i say that could soon be eradicated if video playback could be used , no more arguments then and it may also stop shearer and his ramblings on talking crap making out he knows everything
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Sept 2, 2012, 7:24pm, tom007 wrote:
we has hill missed goal , derry sent off for the penalty that never should have been as young was offside , thats the 2 i remember most and more than a couple of others on top of that .

we were lucky for a wrong decision how many times once i believe when we were offside and scored and the ref didnt see it.

we were well out of luck on decisions last season and lets not forget utd everyone says they always get the decisions etc especially at home.

i say that could soon be eradicated if video playback could be used , no more arguments then and it may also stop shearer and his ramblings on talking crap making out he knows everything


The technology you refer to is not under discussion, only goal line so only Hill's is pertinent in your examples, like I've said already, Bolton's non goal at Chels*** cancels that one out.

Too much money, not enough justification. When did we last need goal line technology at Loftus Road?
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« Reply #29 on Sept 2, 2012, 8:25pm »

This is why I say video playbacks .Goal line technology is hardly ever needed.Probably once every 5 seasons to be honest.If however a fella shouted 'Whoah hold on a second mate' in that little ear piece in the refs ear.Joey wouldnt be on a ban in France for one.And Derry would'nt of been sent off and Man UTD would of had a load less penaltys last year.
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