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« Reply #60 on Aug 16, 2012, 10:03pm »

I know I shouldn't.
I promised myself I wouldn't.
Sorry, but I just can't help myself.

What are they called these days?
Is it London Transport?
Is it Transport for London?

No matter...........because whoever they are, they want the blunt end of a broomstick up them. :o

It's not Shepherd's Bush.
It's Shepherds Bush.
No Apostrophe.

Shepherds Bush is so named because of the Shepherds that used to rest their Flocks there overnight, when they were bringing their Flocks to market from the West of England.
Many years ago of course.

If it was named after one Shepherd (which it's not) it would be called Shepherd's Bush.
It's named in the Plural...........
So it's Shepherds Bush.

And we are Queen's Park Rangers.

And I'm going to have another Brandy.

And Ro lands is gonna catch 'an 'ass whuppin' in the Fantasy League. :)
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« Reply #61 on Aug 17, 2012, 5:13am »


Aug 16, 2012, 5:21pm, Macmoish wrote:
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@TonyIncenzo Ah! Guess I'll rephrase: #QPR Report first publicly "PUBLISHED" the Solution to the "Missing Queen's Park Rangers Apostrophe"


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@QPRReport Keep up the good work - your website is an excellent resource
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« Reply #62 on Aug 17, 2012, 6:55am »


Aug 16, 2012, 10:03pm, zicoshoops wrote:
I know I shouldn't.
I promised myself I wouldn't.
Sorry, but I just can't help myself.

What are they called these days?
Is it London Transport?
Is it Transport for London?

No matter...........because whoever they are, they want the blunt end of a broomstick up them. :o

It's not Shepherd's Bush.
It's Shepherds Bush.
No Apostrophe.

Shepherds Bush is so named because of the Shepherds that used to rest their Flocks there overnight, when they were bringing their Flocks to market from the West of England.
Many years ago of course.

If it was named after one Shepherd (which it's not) it would be called Shepherd's Bush.
It's named in the Plural...........
So it's Shepherds Bush.

And we are Queen's Park Rangers.

And I'm going to have another Brandy.

And Ro lands is gonna catch 'an 'ass whuppin' in the Fantasy League. :)


Sorry, no. If it's in the plural then it is Shepherds' Bush
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« Reply #63 on Aug 17, 2012, 9:01am »


Aug 17, 2012, 6:55am, gramps wrote:

Aug 16, 2012, 10:03pm, zicoshoops wrote:
I know I shouldn't.
I promised myself I wouldn't.
Sorry, but I just can't help myself.

What are they called these days?
Is it London Transport?
Is it Transport for London?

No matter...........because whoever they are, they want the blunt end of a broomstick up them. :o

It's not Shepherd's Bush.
It's Shepherds Bush.
No Apostrophe.

Shepherds Bush is so named because of the Shepherds that used to rest their Flocks there overnight, when they were bringing their Flocks to market from the West of England.
Many years ago of course.

If it was named after one Shepherd (which it's not) it would be called Shepherd's Bush.
It's named in the Plural...........
So it's Shepherds Bush.

And we are Queen's Park Rangers.

And I'm going to have another Brandy.

And Ro lands is gonna catch 'an 'ass whuppin' in the Fantasy League. :)


Sorry, no. If it's in the plural then it is Shepherds' Bush

But if it's singular it's Shepherd's Bush - correct Gramps?
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« Reply #64 on Aug 17, 2012, 9:08am »

Yes, if it was Singular it would be Shepherd's Bush. (but it's not)

I hear you Gramps re Shepherds'. :)

But also perfectly acceptable as Shepherds, when used as Plural and 3rd person present. :)
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« Reply #65 on Aug 17, 2012, 9:12am »


Aug 17, 2012, 9:08am, zicoshoops wrote:
Yes, if it was Singular it would be Shepherd's Bush. (but it's not)

I hear you Gramps re Shepherds'. :)

But also perfectly acceptable as Shepherds, when used as Plural and 3rd person present. :)

All too much for me. The apostrophies are doing my head in. No apostrophies are the go as far as I'm concerned!!
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« Reply #66 on Aug 17, 2012, 9:16am »


Aug 17, 2012, 9:08am, zicoshoops wrote:
Yes, if it was Singular it would be Shepherd's Bush. (but it's not)

I hear you Gramps re Shepherds'. :)

But also perfectly acceptable as Shepherds, when used as Plural and 3rd person present. :)


Does the name imply ownership or is it merely descriptive?

If it implies that the Bush is in fact the property of the shepherds then the use of the apostrophe after the s, as Gramps states, would be correct.

If it is merely a description of the Bush, as in it was used by more than one shepherd then no apostrophe is necessary.
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« Reply #67 on Aug 17, 2012, 9:19am »

My other hobby is watching paint dry. ::) :o ;) ;D

No Apostrophe in Shepherds is cool.

No Apostrophe in Queen's Park Rangers, is the work of the Devil.
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« Reply #68 on Aug 17, 2012, 9:21am »


Aug 17, 2012, 9:19am, zicoshoops wrote:
My other hobby is watching paint dry. ::) :o ;) ;D

No Apostrophe in Shepherds is cool.

No Apostrophe in Queen's Park Rangers, is the work of the Devil.

Having two bob each way zico?
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« Reply #69 on Aug 17, 2012, 9:26am »

My head is now reeling! I now agree with everybody! ;D

In discussing apostrophes with Ron Phillips yesterday, he told me that schools no longer teach anything about apostrophes. Perhaps they are also teaching that "of" is an acceptable substitute for "have"? i.e. "We should of gone" rather than "have gone". Now that will never be acceptable to me. Sorry, straying off football. Mods feel free to discipline me severely.
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« Reply #70 on Aug 17, 2012, 9:34am »

;D

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The name is descriptive.
Shepherds Bush is Common Land.
It was used as an overnight resting place before the Sheep were walked to Smithfield Market the following day.
Sheep that had come from all over the West of England.

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The ex wife used to call me a boring old Bastard.........reading through my posts on here I'm begining to understand why. :o
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« Reply #71 on Aug 17, 2012, 9:45am »


Aug 17, 2012, 5:13am, Macmoish wrote:

Aug 16, 2012, 5:21pm, Macmoish wrote:
QPR REPORT ‏@QPRReport

@TonyIncenzo Ah! Guess I'll rephrase: #QPR Report first publicly "PUBLISHED" the Solution to the "Missing Queen's Park Rangers Apostrophe"


And "Response" Twee

Tony Incenzo ‏@TonyIncenzo

@QPRReport Keep up the good work - your website is an excellent resource


Terry Cinzano could at least have the manners to give the nod to where he "resourced" from.
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« Reply #72 on Aug 17, 2012, 7:50pm »

Bring it back, I reckon. Ron's comments are interesting but I agree with gramps.

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« Reply #73 on Aug 17, 2012, 8:03pm »


Aug 17, 2012, 9:26am, gramps wrote:
Perhaps they are also teaching that "of" is an acceptable substitute for "have"? i.e. "We should of gone" rather than "have gone".


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I was complaining the other day about the use of the "verb" medal, as in our athletes are medalling. The worst example I ever heard of nouning was on the radio (BBC) when a presenter said that we had been guinea pigging our children for years. >:(
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