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« Reply #391 on Aug 6, 2012, 10:01pm » | |
Aug 6, 2012, 9:53pm, Zed wrote:
Aug 6, 2012, 9:35pm, fabs wrote:
Hate to break the stereotype, but Nick Skelton left school without qualifications and worked his way up the equestrian rank, shovelling shite as he went. And he isn't atypical. 
Sorry, but I hate the assumption that anyone on top of a horse must be financially privileged. |
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Just because he's thick it doesn't mean he wasn't born into money. First pony aged 18 months and educated at Bablake.
That sport is almost exclusively for the privilaged. If it was open to all we'd have won gold a long time before now and we wouldn't be fielding OAP's. |
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Plenty of kids have ponies and aren't from privileged families. The private education had absolutely no bearing on his equestrian career.
I know 2 youngsters who have a very good chance of representing GB in the future and neither of them come from privileged backgrounds either.
Don't give in to stereotype's and assumptions.
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« Reply #392 on Aug 7, 2012, 6:37am » | |
Aug 6, 2012, 10:01pm, fabs wrote:
Aug 6, 2012, 9:53pm, Zed wrote:
Just because he's thick it doesn't mean he wasn't born into money. First pony aged 18 months and educated at Bablake.
That sport is almost exclusively for the privilaged. If it was open to all we'd have won gold a long time before now and we wouldn't be fielding OAP's. |
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Plenty of kids have ponies and aren't from privileged families. The private education had absolutely no bearing on his equestrian career.
I know 2 youngsters who have a very good chance of representing GB in the future and neither of them come from privileged backgrounds either.
Don't give in to stereotype's and assumptions. |
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It's not an assumption. Yes in rural areas some kids have ponies but that's very different from the money and commitment needed to travel every weekend for competition. Becoming a top level showjumper is prohibitively expensive for nearly all but the very wealthy and it's run by an old boy's network. Unless things have completely changed in recent years it's more about how big your family's bank balance is and who you know/what school you attended than an individuals talent.
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« Reply #394 on Aug 7, 2012, 10:26am » | |
Triathlon coming up.
COME ON THE BROWNLEE'S!
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« Reply #395 on Aug 7, 2012, 10:39am » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 10:26am, Zed wrote:Triathlon coming up.
COME ON THE BROWNLEE'S! |
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Decent Portuguese athlete in this...conflicted 
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« Reply #396 on Aug 7, 2012, 10:49am » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 10:39am, eusebio13 wrote:
Aug 7, 2012, 10:26am, Zed wrote:Triathlon coming up.
COME ON THE BROWNLEE'S! |
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Decent Portuguese athlete in this...conflicted |
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3 steps on the podium..plenty to go around.
Pretty brutal event this. Obviously the Ironman type competitions are much longer in length but these guys really go for it.
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« Reply #397 on Aug 7, 2012, 11:24am » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 6:37am, Zed wrote:
Aug 6, 2012, 10:01pm, fabs wrote:
Plenty of kids have ponies and aren't from privileged families. The private education had absolutely no bearing on his equestrian career.
I know 2 youngsters who have a very good chance of representing GB in the future and neither of them come from privileged backgrounds either.
Don't give in to stereotype's and assumptions. |
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It's not an assumption. Yes in rural areas some kids have ponies but that's very different from the money and commitment needed to travel every weekend for competition. Becoming a top level showjumper is prohibitively expensive for nearly all but the very wealthy and it's run by an old boy's network. Unless things have completely changed in recent years it's more about how big your family's bank balance is and who you know/what school you attended than an individuals talent.
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Sorry, but that's absolute rubbish!
If you have the talent, there's plenty of sponsorship out there to get you to where you want to go.
To say that, in rural areas, some kids have ponies is a massive misconception. Riding facilities are out there in abundance and available for everyone at very little cost.
Skelton's school had absolutely no bearing on his equestrian career as I've already demonstrated.
As I said, assumptions and prejudice and a lack of knowledge is what pisses me off!
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« Reply #398 on Aug 7, 2012, 11:52am » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 11:24am, fabs wrote:
Aug 7, 2012, 6:37am, Zed wrote:
It's not an assumption. Yes in rural areas some kids have ponies but that's very different from the money and commitment needed to travel every weekend for competition. Becoming a top level showjumper is prohibitively expensive for nearly all but the very wealthy and it's run by an old boy's network. Unless things have completely changed in recent years it's more about how big your family's bank balance is and who you know/what school you attended than an individuals talent.
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Sorry, but that's absolute rubbish!
If you have the talent, there's plenty of sponsorship out there to get you to where you want to go.
To say that, in rural areas, some kids have ponies is a massive misconception. Riding facilities are out there in abundance and available for everyone at very little cost.
Skelton's school had absolutely no bearing on his equestrian career as I've already demonstrated.
As I said, assumptions and prejudice and a lack of knowledge is what pisses me off! |
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« Reply #399 on Aug 7, 2012, 12:03pm » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 11:52am, Zed wrote:
Aug 7, 2012, 11:24am, fabs wrote:
Sorry, but that's absolute rubbish!
If you have the talent, there's plenty of sponsorship out there to get you to where you want to go.
To say that, in rural areas, some kids have ponies is a massive misconception. Riding facilities are out there in abundance and available for everyone at very little cost.
Skelton's school had absolutely no bearing on his equestrian career as I've already demonstrated.
As I said, assumptions and prejudice and a lack of knowledge is what pisses me off! |
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Twaddle.
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I come from a position of knowledge, your response t ells me where you come from.
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« Reply #400 on Aug 7, 2012, 12:18pm » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 12:03pm, fabs wrote:
Your repeated accusations of "prejudice" and slew of spurious facts completely contradict that statement.
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« Reply #401 on Aug 7, 2012, 12:23pm » | |
Gold and bronze in the Triathlon!
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« Reply #402 on Aug 7, 2012, 12:23pm » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 12:18pm, Zed wrote:
Aug 7, 2012, 12:03pm, fabs wrote:
I come from a position of knowledge, your response t ells me where you come from. |
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Your repeated accusations of "prejudice" and slew of spurious facts completely contradict that statement.
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How are those facts spurious when I have a personal knwledge and insight into something you appear to know nothing about?
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« Reply #403 on Aug 7, 2012, 2:45pm » | |
I dont know anything about horse riding either, so I looked it up on the first google offering
http://www.chestnutsridingschool.co.uk/f....ng-cost-so-much
It seems that according to this riding school that start up costs are Ł6770, ongoing costs per year are Ł4326 and you may have to buy a horse as well. This is not to support one view or another and I wouldnt normally bother, but hey, theres no matches to worry about and it's not tea time yet.
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« Reply #404 on Aug 7, 2012, 4:22pm » | |
GO TROTTY!
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« Reply #405 on Aug 7, 2012, 4:35pm » | |
COME ON VICKY
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« Reply #406 on Aug 7, 2012, 4:38pm » | |
Nobody seems to have mentioned gold in the team dressage, the one that took us over the 19 we got in Beijing.....
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« Reply #407 on Aug 7, 2012, 4:44pm » | |
And great to see Sir John Major at so many events...... 
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« Reply #408 on Aug 7, 2012, 4:54pm » | |
CNN Breaking News@cnnbrk Olympic result: U.S. gymnast Aly Raisman takes gold in women's floor exercise. http://on.cnn.com/N8YGkJ
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« Reply #409 on Aug 7, 2012, 5:22pm » | |
CHRIS HOY - another great ride!
Unlucky Vicky, enjoy your retirement.
Seven golds out of ten & it could easily have been nine!
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« Reply #410 on Aug 7, 2012, 6:20pm » | |
Mexico outplay Japan and reach the Final.
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« Reply #411 on Aug 7, 2012, 6:41pm » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 5:22pm, terryb wrote:CHRIS HOY - another great ride!
Unlucky Vicky, enjoy your retirement.
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Incredible ride by Hoy. His power and endurance was awesome. No surprise the ruling went against GB/Vicky but if anyone else deserved a gold it was Meares. She's a fantastic cyclist and came so close in previous games.
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« Reply #412 on Aug 7, 2012, 6:51pm » | |
Interesting backstory.
Nick Hope, BBC Sport at the diving at the Aquatics Centre
"At 19, GB's Chris Mears is the youngest diver in this individual 3m springboard final and after the first round, he is joint eighth.
"But let me put Mears' achievement into perspective. Three years ago, he was given just a 5% chance of living after his spleen ruptured and he suffered a seven hour seizure.
"The fact that the teenager has been able to become a professional athlete, let alone one competing in an Olympic final is a phenomenal achievement."
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« Reply #413 on Aug 7, 2012, 6:52pm » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 11:52am, Zed wrote:[quote author=bowlesemover board=general thread=32374 post=276866 time=1344338654]
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Didn't she win a bronze Zed?
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« Reply #414 on Aug 7, 2012, 7:17pm » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 6:37am, Zed wrote:
Aug 6, 2012, 10:01pm, fabs wrote:
Plenty of kids have ponies and aren't from privileged families. The private education had absolutely no bearing on his equestrian career.
I know 2 youngsters who have a very good chance of representing GB in the future and neither of them come from privileged backgrounds either.
Don't give in to stereotype's and assumptions. |
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It's not an assumption. Yes in rural areas some kids have ponies but that's very different from the money and commitment needed to travel every weekend for competition. Becoming a top level showjumper is prohibitively expensive for nearly all but the very wealthy and it's run by an old boy's network. Unless things have completely changed in recent years it's more about how big your family's bank balance is and who you know/what school you attended than an individuals talent.
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« Reply #415 on Aug 7, 2012, 9:00pm » | |
I tried that show jumping malarkey, broke my nose in a jump off against the clock.
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« Reply #416 on Aug 7, 2012, 9:02pm » | |
48 medals - Gold 22 Silver 13 Bronze 13. 
Beijing total mullered already.
More medals on the way.
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« Reply #417 on Aug 7, 2012, 9:29pm » | |
By the way, anyone see the Spaniards cheating in the hockey?
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« Reply #418 on Aug 8, 2012, 6:08am » | |
Aug 7, 2012, 9:29pm, cpr wrote:| By the way, anyone see the Spaniards cheating in the hockey? |
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Missed it but it's reported on the news they have accused the officials of bias towards GB.
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« Reply #419 on Aug 8, 2012, 6:16am » | |
BMX starts today.
It would be great if Shanaze could put the ghosts of Bejing to rest.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19138944
Liam Phillips may also have a shout but he had a really nasty crash at the Worlds in May. Hopefully his bones are all mended and he hasn't lost his bottle.
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