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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2011 22:14:17 GMT
Bump//Flashback 4 Years ago....Waiting for Verdict...PostponedHaqpr1963... May 5, FA Statement The Football Association have today (Thursday 5th May 2011) issued the following statement: Announcement by the Independent Regulatory Commission hearing charges against QPR and Mr Gianni Paladini concerning Alejandro Faurlin. It was originally indicated that the decision of the Commission on the charges and on any sanction, if appropriate, would be announced by 4pm on Friday 6th May 2011 if possible. This will not now happen. A decision will be made and announced as soon as possible thereafter. The FA Delay Thread qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=22364&page=1May 5 & 6: Various Articles about the FA Delay Announcement - and Possible Chaos to Footballqprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=22314Mail
Total chaos: QPR hearing delay is turning the Championship into a farceBy Sami Mokbel 5th May 2011 The climax to the Championship season descended into farce after the decision was delayed on whether to dock Queens Park Rangers points over transfer irregularities. The FA were due to announce on Friday if QPR had been found guilty of seven charges of breaking transfer laws over their £3.5million move for Alejandro Faurlin in 2009. Sources have informed Sportsmail that the verdict could come as late as Monday, throwing the promotion battle into chaos. A spokesman for Swansea, who could be promoted if Rangers are deducted points, said: ‘To leave the decision so late in the season was always ridiculous. But now it’s got even worse.’ Rangers are due to be awarded the Championship trophy at Loftus Road after their final game against Leeds and boss Neil Warnock said: ‘This does not help our preparations for Saturday. We are going into the game not knowing where we stand.’ If deducted points, Rangers could be forced into the play-offs to fight for a top-flight place. Cardiff, Swansea, Reading and Nottingham Forest are in the play-off spots. A deduction could also lead to a number of legal battles, though the Football League insist that the play-offs will begin next Thursday whatever happens. Plymouth Argyle, who are in administration and have been relegated to League Two, are considering legal action if QPR are docked points.
As part of the deal that took striker Jamie Mackie to Loftus Road last summer, Argyle are in line for a cash windfall, but that could be withheld if Rangers are stripped of promotion. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1384039/QPR-hearing-delay-turning-Championship-farce.html#ixzz1LWDwTzE2
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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2011 22:27:11 GMT
TELEGRAPH
Neil Warnock defiant as Queens Park Rangers hearing is delayed
As confusion descended on the finale to the Championship season on Thursday, there was at least some clarity to be found at the Harlington training base of Queens Park Rangers.By Jeremy Wilson 9:51PM BST 05 May 2011 The hearing into QPR’s seven alleged breaches of Football Association rules is now likely to run beyond Saturday’s final round of matches but, according to manager Neil Warnock, there will still be a huge party at Loftus Road. And, even with the threat of a points deduction lingering over his team, Warnock is adamant that the Football League must also allow the Championship trophy to be presented after their game against Leeds United. “We have done it on the field of play; we’ve more than been the best team all season and, believe you me, we are going to celebrate,” said Warnock. “We are going to be presented with the trophy. They are the favourites pictures of my career. I think it is a fantastic and exciting moment for the kids. We’ve got kids at QPR who have never been to the Premier League, not had any success in their generation.” The Independent Regulatory Commission had been expected to deliver its verdict by 4pm on Friday but, after the third day of evidence concluded last night, it became clear that would not be possible. Asked if he would take second place and automatic promotion if it was offered now, Warnock said: “No, because we are champions. We are number one in the league and that’s where we are going to be.” Warnock was also bullish enough to openly pontificate about the challenge of keeping QPR in the Premier League next season, as well as the prospect of “Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal getting changed in our little Loftus Road dressing rooms”. For those who have been predicting a points deduction — such as former FA chief executive Mark Palios — there was short shrift. “Mark is talking without knowing the facts really,” said Warnock. “I call it cheap publicity but he’s had enough of that, hasn’t he?” Palios, of course, resigned from the FA after revelations of an affair with Faria Alam, an FA secretary who had also had an affair with England head coach Sven-Goran Eriksson. On the detail of the case, Warnock was circumspect but rejected comparisons with the Carlos Tévez saga, when West Ham United escaped a points deduction that ultimately condemned his Sheffield United team to relegation four years ago. “I know that it is nothing to do West Ham-Sheffield United,” he said. “It is nowhere near in the same league. I’m quite happy to let the commission look at all the evidence and make their decision. “The players were very low a couple of weeks ago. Having spoken to the barrister, I came away and said to the players, ‘right, let’s get on with winning the Championship’.” Since the tribunal started, Warnock said that he has spoken only briefly with the assistant to Ian Mill, the club’s QC. As much as possible, he has tried to prepare his players as normal for Saturday’s match although Alejandro Faurlin, the player whose transfer has caused the charges, was on Friday required to give evidence. Warnock expressed his admiration for the way Faurlin has maintained his focus this season but likened his job to starring in a soap opera. “QPR is an unusual club,” he said. “It’s probably a little bit like Coronation Street in the Football League. You don’t know what is in the next episode. Probably on the outside it’s looked as though it has all gone smooth but nothing is like that on the inside at QPR. First of all, to survive a year has been as much an achievement as anything hasn’t it? I don’t look beyond trying to keep these up next season which will be difficult.” Whatever happens, Warnock is already marking this down as his seventh promotion and the greatest feat of a managerial career that has spanned 31 years and 12 clubs. “I was determined to try and equal Graham Taylor’s record of seven promotions,” he said. “I’m a big admirer of Graham. I think it is the biggest achievement I’ve got because of the revamping of the team. At Sheffield United I had seven years. It’s been the most exciting and most difficult.” Still, after everything that happened with Tévez, you have to wonder whether Warnock is asking himself: why me again? “I think my wife has mentioned it on the odd occasion,” he said. “Life throws these things at you and you have to deal with it. I don’t think there’s any comparison with the charges that we have had [to the Tévez case]. “I’ve concentrated on football and let you guys in the media deal with people like Mark Palios. I will be asking one or two questions myself next week. You’ll have to wait and see what the verdict is and then come and interview me because it’s not like me to keep quiet like this, is it?” Q&A: Why Rangers are still fighting for promotion... What are QPR alleged to have done? There are seven charges arising from the transfer of the Argentinian midfielder Alejandro Faurlín to QPR in July 2009. The allegations include entering agreement with a third party over his economic rights and using or seeking to pay an unauthorised agent. QPR and chairman Gianni Paladini have been charged over allegedly false information submitted to the FA. What are the possible punishments? QPR could be fined or suffer a points deduction, which could deny them the title or move them into the play-offs. It has also been suggested that the commission apply a points deduction from the start of next season. QPR believe they acted properly. The matter only came to light when they went to the League and asked to buy out Faurlin’s contract. Why has it all taken so long to resolve? This is the issue that is causing most frustration. It is now almost eight months since the Football League first referred the matter to the FA. “Murder trials get to court quicker than this,” said one club insider. What happened yesterday? The FA and QPR confirmed that the commission would not be announcing their decision by 4pm today. The four-man commission will now meet over the weekend to try to get the hearing concluded as quickly possible. The final round of matches is due to kick-off at 12.45pm tomorrow. Will the matter be resolved when the verdict is announced? Not necessarily. QPR have the right to appeal any sanction and could also still try to take any case to an outside court. There is also the potential of other clubs pursuing their own legal action in response to the decision. The League is determined to press ahead with the play-offs which begin next Thursday and Friday. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/championship/8496408/Neil-Warnock-defiant-as-Queens-Park-Rangers-hearing-is-delayed.html
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Post by londonranger on May 5, 2011 23:16:41 GMT
As long as they have absolute power and can do anything they want. but as I said on another thread, I see us being champions and a small deduction on prem which cant be appealed and agree upon by our side.
If a higher power convenes an investigtion on their goings on, wonderful. they Im sure want to end it Monday for their own skins.
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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2011 23:24:53 GMT
Express
QPR IN LINE FOR A GREAT ESCAPE Matthew Dunn QPR seem certain to avoid a points deduction this season after the bungling FA admitted they won’t reach a verdict on the Alejandro Faurlin case until after the end of the campaign. A statement from the FA yesterday afternoon said: “It was originally indicated that the decision on any sanction, if appropriate, would be announced by 4pm on Friday, May 6 if possible. This will not now happen. A decision will be made and announced as soon as possible thereafter.” The Football League rule book states that the season ends “immediately after the completion of the club’s final fixture”. Decisions can be imposed “immediately or may be deferred” – there is no scope for retrospective punishment against Neil Warnock’s team. As a result, the Daily Express understands that when the full-time whistle blows at Loftus Road after their game against Leeds tomorrow, the Football League intends to wash their hands of the affair and pass the problem on to the Premier League. www.express.co.uk/posts/view/245018/QPR-in-line-for-a-great-escape/QPR-in-line-for-a-great-escape#ixzz1LWVwq9h7
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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2011 23:26:31 GMT
Express PROBLEMS POSED BY PANEL PAUSE
Matthew Dunn
THE FA and Premier League look set to become embroiled in a power struggle stretching into the summer after the FA’s four-man panel decided it would need longer to look into QPR’s case.At a time when there is already plenty of jostling for position between David Bernstein and the Premier League powers of Richard Scudamore and Sir David Richards at the Football Governance inquiry, a verdict against QPR over the third-party ownership of Alejandro Faurlin could test who really calls the shots. If, as suggested by former FA chief executive Mark Palios, a points deduction is imposed, the unarguable end to the Football League season seems set to lead to the authorities demanding the top clubs in the land admit an uncompetitive member into their midst. The fear is that it will unbalance the self-styled “greatest league in the world” – although any vote on the matter would be skewed by those spotting an opportunity to avoid relegation next season. The FA are obviously keen to avoid the embarrassment of their failure to rule on a situation they have known of for eight months. The four-man panel includes two council members and a former player but it is the QC heading the board who is being held responsible for setting what he felt was an appropriate amount of time to prepare a case. www.express.co.uk/posts/view/244989/Problems-posed-by-panel-pause-Problems-posed-by-panel-pause-#ixzz1LWWLcyOZ
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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2011 23:36:08 GMT
Ian Wright/The Sun
The FA are an embarrassmentIT was an absolute joke that the FA planned to give their verdict on the QPR disciplinary case today... 24 hours before the final game of the Championship season. Now they have made it even worse by postponing their decision. They knew there was something wrong with the signing of Alejandro Faurlin last September. But they didn't charge the club until March and then waited until May to hold the hearing. Why have they been dragging their feet for so long? What have they been doing for the last eight months? The FA brought in new rules specifically banning third-party ownership after the Carlos Tevez fiasco four years ago. The minute they knew QPR had broken those rules, they should have been punished there and then. Why do they even need to have an inquiry? By allowing this case to drag on for so long, they are punishing thousands of innocent QPR fans who still cannot celebrate the promotion they've dreamed of for years. It just confirms my belief that the FA don't give a t*** about the supporters who pay their wages but are completely ignored when it comes to the running of the game. This QPR case is just the latest in a long line of terrible decisions from the game's governing body which are, frankly, an embarrassment. Look at the recent Alex Ferguson case. Instead of being told to sit in a slightly different seat for five games, he should have been banned from the stadium and fined £250,000. That's a proper punishment. If the FA are serious about managers respecting referees, that would have made Fergie think twice. And which genius at the FA decided to give Fabio Capello a new contract before the World Cup shambles? Was it the same bloke who gave Sven Goran Eriksson a new deal after he was caught talking to Chelsea? While we're at it, why are we not allowed to know the identity of the four-man panel currently dealing with QPR? There's more secrecy at the FA than the old Russian Communist Party. Who are these faceless old blokes in blazers who travel all around the world with England? What are they doing to change football for the better? In the modern world of microchip technology, the FA is still being run like an old gentlemen's club. I should know. I was up before their disciplinary committee often enough during my playing career. If you didn't wear a tie they'd look at you as if you'd committed a murder. So how can they possibly deal with the likes of Paul Merson or Joey Barton when they are so out of touch? I'd happily sit on the FA disciplinary committee. At least today's players would be able to identify with me and know I'd experienced what they were going through. But it's not just the disciplinary committee that needs an overhaul. The entire FA needs to start employing younger people in positions of authority. That's why we have to start a campaign here and now to get rid of the old farts, as Will Carling once said, running the FA and drag the organisation kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. I know I'm biased but the FA really missed a trick when they failed to make David Dein their chairman at the start of the year. Dein is a football visionary who understands how the modern game works and what needs to be done to take football forward. The problem with the FA is that they seem to change their chairman or chief executive every few months. But no one knows how these guys are ever appointed in the first place. Why don't the clubs, the players and even the supporters get a vote? At the moment no one is sticking up for English football. What happened with our World Cup bid last year was a national disgrace. Quantcast Why should we listen to anything Sepp Blatter and his cronies have to say after they voted to take the biggest competition in sport to Russia and Qatar. It's blatantly obvious they didn't get the World Cup finals on merit alone. The FA say they want to bring in goalline technology but FIFA won't allow it. Well, b***s to FIFA. Let's go it alone and do what is best for English football. If we want to bring in our own rules to tackle cheats and divers, let's not wait for some FIFA sub-committee to give its blessing in 10 years time. Let's do it now. The FA have ignored the wishes of the fans for far too long. We don't want to be ripped off to watch any more turgid England friendlies at Wembley. We want a bloody revolution. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3565415/Ian-Wright-says-its-a-joke-the-FA-planned-to-give-their-verdict-on-the-QPR-disciplinary-case-24-hours-before-the-final-game-of-the-Championship-season.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Football#ixzz1LWYhWzzv
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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2011 23:38:20 GMT
BBC A verdict in case of QPR's Alejandro Faurlin delayed The Football Association has delayed its verdict in the case of QPR midfielder Alejandro Faurlin due to the quantity of evidence being considered. The decision on the Argentine's ownership was originally due before 1600 BST on Friday. But an FA statement read: "This will now not happen." The Championship's league winners may be deducted points if they are found guilty on some or all of the seven charges against them. Asked whether the verdict will be delivered on Monday, a QPR spokesman said: "that's an assumption to make." However BBC Sport understands the tribunal could remain sitting through the weekend if required and that a decision could come at any time. While the panel continues its deliberations, QPR intend for the Championship trophy's presentation to take place on Saturday when Rangers entertain Leeds. Manager Neil Warnock echoed those sentiments by telling QPR's official website: "I love Loftus Road and I want the fans to enjoy the party on Saturday." Continue reading the main story It is a nightmare, a logistical headache and potentially a legal minefield Ian Dennis BBC 5 live senior football reporter But the celebrations could turn sour if the tribunal imposes a points deduction significant enough to shake up the positions at the top of the table, where QPR are currently nine points clear of third-placed Cardiff. That could have a knock-on effect on the make-up of the Championship play-offs, which are scheduled to be played on 12 and 13 May, with the second legs on 16 and 17 May. "It is a nightmare, a logistical headache and, potentially, a legal minefield," said BBC Radio 5 live senior football reporter Ian Dennis. "Earlier in the week I was under the impression that the play-offs could have been moved back five or six days. "Discussions had taken place but I think that was if a decision had been reached enabling QPR to, if required, lodge an appeal. "Now my understanding is that the play-offs remain on the original dates, which depending on the outcome of the hearing, means problems for the clubs if the positions are forced to change, and logistical issues with ticketing arrangements and the police." The hearing at the FA's headquarters in Wembley began on Tuesday, with an announcement on the findings and any possible sanctions originally due to be made on Friday. The charges facing QPR concern the alleged existence of an agreement between them and a third party in respect of Faurlin's economic rights, and the alleged failure by the club to notify the FA of that agreement before the player was registered to play for them in England. The club has also been charged with allegedly using or seeking to pay an unauthorised agent as part of the Faurlin deal, while both the club and chairman Gianni Paladini have further been charged with allegedly submitting false information in documents provided to the FA relating to a contract extension signed by Faurlin in October. If found guilty of some or all of these charges, QPR could be punished with anything from a fine to a points deduction. Former Football Association chief Mark Palios told BBC Radio 4 on Tuesday that if the club are found guilty they would be docked points based on set precedents. Warnock accused Palios of "cheap publicity" and said it was business as usual at Loftus Road. "We are just concentrating on beating Leeds [on Saturday]. We have been the best team in the league by a mile all season and nothing is going to detract from that. "It is probably the best job I have ever done in the past 13-14 months and the celebrations are going to be as good as any celebrations could be." The full FA statement read: "It was originally indicated that the decision of the commission on the charges and on any sanction, if appropriate, would be announced by 4pm on Friday 6 May 2011 if possible. "This will now not happen. A decision will be made and announced as soon as possible thereafter." The outcome of the hearing could also affect Plymouth Argyle. BBC Sport understands that the west country side, relegated from League One, have taken legal advice because they are entitled to a six-figure sum of money if QPR are promoted from a player they sold to the Londoners. news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13301409.stm
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Post by gibraltar on May 6, 2011 7:15:50 GMT
thanks mac. all good reads (bar the sun which I have grown to hate over faurlin-gate(!))
i love colin's comments re: amazing he's survived a year, and qpr being like coronation street.
and he even says the fans think it's gone smooth...(!) well if thats smooth, then i would hate to see the reality.
the FA have really knocked my socks off with this case. they have ruined the best season of my llife, i for one can't celebrate until i know whats going on.
UP THE R'S
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Post by Macmoish on May 6, 2011 7:44:23 GMT
Back to the Sun and Shaun Custis! The Sun
Championship faces chaos
By SHAUN CUSTISFOOTBALL was plunged into chaos last night as the QPR inquiry descended into farce. There could even be the absurd prospect of the Championship winners being handed their trophy after the final game of the season tomorrow - and then being forced to give it back within days! The inquiry's decision to delay their verdict, which was due today, means clubs fighting for a play-off place will have no idea where they have finished either. Seventh-placed Leeds face QPR tomorrow and chairman Ken Bates raged: "This is chaos and an utter shambles. It's not fair on the other clubs and it's not fair on QPR." The farcical scenario emerged after an independent inquiry announced it was delaying its verdict into whether QPR broke strict FA third-party ownership rules when they signed Alejandro Faurlin. That means Rangers will play their final match still not knowing if they are going into the Premier League even though they won the Championship last week. Warnock's team could be deducted points if they are found guilty of the seven charges against them and be demoted back into the play-offs. While they are still expecting to receive the Championship trophy at Loftus Road tomorrow, the Football League insist they will not confirm that until today. A Rangers spokesman, however, insisted: "The club will be presented with the Championship trophy on Saturday and intend to celebrate." Manager Warnock added: "I love Loftus Road and I want the fans to enjoy the party on Saturday." Adding to the confusion is a debate over whether the FA even have the power to take away QPR's trophy once it has been physically handed to them. Sources at the club believe those powers cease to exist once the season is over - although FA sources doubt this is accurate. Despite all the uncertainty, the Football League has confirmed the Championship play-offs will go ahead on the dates planned, starting next Thursday. That means Rangers would not have the chance to lodge an appeal should they be found guilty. Leeds chairman Bates was scathing of the FA. He said: "What I can't understand is that they've known about this since September and it's taken eight months to put a hearing together. "Now it's going on in the last week of the normal season and they can't finish it in time. It's not fair on the other clubs and it's not fair on QPR either. "And how can they say the dates for the play-offs are happening without knowing the outcome of this hearing?" Bates reckons the FA have opened the door for the Parliamentary select committee, which is currently looking into football, to rip them to shreds. He added: "It's been a lightweight inquiry so far which hasn't discussed any of the issues which really matter in the game. "But they've been wanting something current to latch on to and this could be it." # Ken Bates' digital station Yorkshire Radio has been nominated for best DAB station of the year. Read more: www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3565548/Championship-faces-chaos.html#ixzz1LYXWHX1A
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Post by Macmoish on May 6, 2011 7:47:47 GMT
STANDARD
Delay means QPR must wait to find out promotion fate6 May 2011 QPR's agonising wait to find out whether they will be playing in the Barclays Premier League next season is set to drag on into the weekend. The Football Association have postponed their decision on the charges facing the npower Championship leaders regarding the Alejandro Faurlin affair. The verdict, which was due at 4pm today, could now be delayed until after Rangers have played their final match of the season, against Leeds tomorrow. They are due to be presented with the Championship trophy at Loftus Road after the game, but could still have the threat of a possible points deduction hanging over them. An FA statement read: "It was originally indicated that the decision of the commission on the charges and on any sanction, if appropriate, would be announced by 4pm on Friday, May 6, if possible. "This will not now happen. A decision will be made and announced as soon as possible thereafter." Faurlin was at Wembley yesterday to give evidence on what was supposed to be the final day of the hearing held by a four-man independent regulatory commission. www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23947212-delay-means-qpr-must-wait-to-find-out-promotion-fate.do
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Post by Zamoraaaah on May 6, 2011 7:48:37 GMT
Express
QPR IN LINE FOR A GREAT ESCAPE Matthew Dunn QPR seem certain to avoid a points deduction this season after the bungling FA admitted they won’t reach a verdict on the Alejandro Faurlin case until after the end of the campaign. A statement from the FA yesterday afternoon said: “It was originally indicated that the decision on any sanction, if appropriate, would be announced by 4pm on Friday, May 6 if possible. This will not now happen. A decision will be made and announced as soon as possible thereafter.” The Football League rule book states that the season ends “immediately after the completion of the club’s final fixture”.
Decisions can be imposed “immediately or may be deferred” – there is no scope for retrospective punishment against Neil Warnock’s team.As a result, the Daily Express understands that when the full-time whistle blows at Loftus Road after their game against Leeds tomorrow, the Football League intends to wash their hands of the affair and pass the problem on to the Premier League. www.express.co.uk/posts/view/245018/QPR-in-line-for-a-great-escape/QPR-in-line-for-a-great-escape#ixzz1LWVwq9h7 Does anyone know if the rule quoted above is correct?
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Post by Macmoish on May 6, 2011 7:53:38 GMT
Hopefully someone knows, although there's usually some other rule they can screw you with.
But obviously, somehow, Swindon were stripped of their promotion after they won through the playoffs, 20? years ago.
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 6, 2011 7:56:46 GMT
Ian Wright is spot on!
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Post by Macmoish on May 6, 2011 8:10:25 GMT
TELEGRAPH Q&A: Why QPR are still fighting for promotion Queens Park Rangers' hearing over the transfer of Alejandro Faurlin is dragging on beyond the end of the season. Telegraph Sport investigates the particulars... Hogan Ephraim and Wayne Routledge - Q&A: Why Queens Park Rangers are still fighting for promotion... By Jeremy Wilson 06 May 2011 What are QPR alleged to have done? There are seven charges arising from the transfer of the Argentinian midfielder Alejandro Faurlín to QPR in July 2009. The allegations include entering agreement with a third party over his economic rights and using or seeking to pay an unauthorised agent. QPR and chairman Gianni Paladini have been charged over allegedly false information submitted to the FA. What are the possible punishments? QPR could be fined or suffer a points deduction, which could deny them the title or move them into the play-offs. It has also been suggested that the commission apply a points deduction from the start of next season. QPR believe they acted properly. The matter only came to light when they went to the League and asked to buy out Faurlin’s contract. Why has it all taken so long to resolve? This is the issue that is causing most frustration. It is now almost eight months since the Football League first referred the matter to the FA. “Murder trials get to court quicker than this,” said one club insider. What happened yesterday? The FA and QPR confirmed that the commission would not be announcing their decision by 4pm on Friday, as planned. The four-man commission will now meet over the weekend to try to get the hearing concluded as quickly possible. The final round of matches is due to kick-off at 12.45pm on Saturday. Will the matter be resolved when the verdict is announced? Not necessarily. QPR have the right to appeal any sanction and could also still try to take any case to an outside court. There is also the potential of other clubs pursuing their own legal action in response to the decision. The League is determined to press ahead with the play-offs which begin next Thursday and Friday. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/8497033/QandA-Why-QPR-are-still-fighting-for-promotion.html
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Post by Macmoish on May 6, 2011 8:12:23 GMT
CNBC
How Cruel Can Sport Be to a Fan? Friday, 6 May 2011 By: Patrick Allen CNBC EMEA Head of News There is a small football (or soccer for our US readers) in West London called Queens Park Rangers. During the 1970s and 1990s the club enjoyed relative success playing attractive football without ever really converting style into trophies. With a small support QPR’s success has in the past been driven by good management and rich owners willing to fund that management on the pitch. Having been a founding member of the Premier League in the early 1990s, disaster struck in 1996 and the club where relegated from the top tier of English football. For over 10 years the club lurched from one disaster to another. The list is long and the luck bad. Relegation to the third tier of English football, being put into administration and surviving after players where bought by a couple of fans. There was also a takeover attempt involving a gun being put to the head of the then chairman. The loss in a cup game to the works team of GM-owned Vauxhall Motors. There was an international incident with China following a mass brawl with China’s under 23 team in a friendly game. Then tragically, the death of a highly rated teenager who could now be a leading star of the game. Now I must make an important disclosure, I am a long-suffering QPR fan.Having grown up with my team being relatively good for the majority of my life QPR have been a laughing stock, forced to accept the scorn of fans of Chelsea, Arsenal and virtually anyone who bothered to have a laugh at our expense. A couple of years ago things began to change. The club was bought by Italian millionaire Flavio Briatore and Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone. If that was not exciting enough Indian Steel magnate and Britain’s richest man, Lakshmi Mittal and his family took a stake in the club. With billionaire’s now backing the club the good times had to be just around the corner. But despite spending some money Flavio Briatore could not stop meddling in team affairs, sacked numerous managers and led fans to believe the club was jinxed. With the results disappointing and Briatore public enemy number one the Italian was forced out with the Mittal family all but taking control of running the club despite being minority stake holders. With the hire of an experienced manager called Neil Warnock and the signing of a talented young Moroccan player called Adel Taarabt, results began to improve before in the current season the team played some of the best football in years to be crowned champions with a ticket back to the highly lucrative Premier League the prize. Sounds like a win, so why are you boring us with this story about soccer?, you might ask. The problem is that we signed an Argentinean player called Alejandro Faurlin when Briatore was still running the club in a deal that could very well have broken the rules on third party ownership (Soccer players are owned by their clubs and can be bought and sold by clubs but the rules in the UK mean a third party cannot hold the rights to a player). On Monday, 48 hours after the last game of the season at which at which we should be celebrating a brilliant season, soccer’s governing body the Football Association could decide to dock up to 15 points from the club in a move that would rob us of promotion, force us into a play-off which we would surely lose knowing our luck and result in the loss of our star player. This might not happen, QPR could just be fined and slapped on the wrists, but being a QPR fan has made me fear the worst. With QPR I get an answer on Friday the May 6, I am expecting the worst, but ready for a cruel decision that could mean another 15 years of hurt. © 2011 CNBC.com www.cnbc.com/id/42911353
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Post by maudesfishnchips on May 6, 2011 8:14:15 GMT
found this, just looking for more, be back by monday
TROpHY:- LEGAL OWNERS, CONDITIONS OF TAKING OVER, AGREEMENT TO BE SIGNED. AWARDS. 18. (A) If a Competition is discontinued for any reason a Trophy or any other presentation shall be returned to the Donor if the conditions attached to it so provide or, if not, dealt with as the sanctioning Association may decide. (B) The following agreement shall be signed on behalf of the winners of the Cup or Trophy:- “We A and B , the Chairman and Secretary of FC, members of and representing the Club, having been declared winners of Cup or Trophy, and it having been delivered to us by the Competition, do hereby on behalf of the Club jointly and severally agree to return the Cup or Trophy to the Competition Secretary on or before . If the Cup or Trophy is lost or damaged whilst under our care we agree to refund to the Competition the amount of its current value or the cost of its thorough repair.” (C) At the close of each Competition awards may/shall be made to the winners and runners-up if the funds of the Competition permit.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 6, 2011 8:25:46 GMT
Good find Maude.
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Post by maudesfishnchips on May 6, 2011 8:32:50 GMT
and this from the fl rules, still looking......
35. CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES AND MEDALS
35.1 The Club declared the Champion Club of each Division shall hold the Championship Trophy of that Division until the next Season's League Competition is concluded. When the winners of the trophies shall have been ascertained they shall be handed over to such winners who shall return the same to the Executive on or before 1 May in the following year in like good order and condition, provided always that the winning Club shall, from time to time throughout the year, on request from The League, release the trophy to The League for such purposes as The League shall require. The League shall present to the Championship Club of each Division 23 souvenirs comprising 18 for the Players, one for the chief administrator/club secretary, one for the Manager, one for the Physiotherapist and two for Staff other than Players. It shall be the responsibility of the Club to determine to which of its Players the souvenirs should be presented. Additional souvenirs may be presented with the consent of the Executive.
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Post by Macmoish on May 6, 2011 8:51:35 GMT
Telegraph on the Ken Bates Comments
Leeds chairman Ken Bates calls QPR's FA hearing delay 'chaos and an utter shambles'
Ken Bates has criticised the delay in announcing the verdict of the FA's investigation into Queens Park Rangers' purchase of Alejandro Faurlin. Ken Bates - Leeds chairman Ken Bates calls QPR's FA hearing delay 'chaos and an utter shambles' FA farce: Leeds chairman Ken Bates says that dragging out the QPR hearing is unfair to Championship clubs Photo: PA By Thom Gibbs 9:26AM BST 06 May 2011 Bates, the former owner and chairman of Chelsea who is now in charge of Leeds, has said that the way the investigation is being handled is unfair on QPR and their Championship competitors. A verdict was expected to be announced on Friday, so that any sanctions against QPR would be known before the final round of games on Saturday afternoon. The hearing is now expected to announce its findings after this weekend. "This is chaos and an utter shambles," Bates told The Sun. "It's not fair on the other clubs and it's not fair on QPR. "What I can't understand is that they've known about this since September and it's taken eight months to put a hearing together. "Now it's going on in the last week of the normal season and they can't finish it in time. "And how can they say the dates for the play-offs are happening without knowing the outcome of this hearing?" Bates believes that the FA's handling of QPR's case may also mean further scrutiny by the Parliamentary select committee, which is currently looking into football. "It's been a lightweight inquiry so far which hasn't discussed any of the issues which really matter in the game," Bates said. "But they've been wanting something current to latch on to and this could be it." www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/8497186/Leeds-chairman-Ken-Bates-calls-QPRs-FA-hearing-delay-chaos-and-an-utter-shambles.html
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 6, 2011 8:58:52 GMT
Dare I agree with him ever, but on this occassion, I have to.
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Post by steveb66 on May 6, 2011 9:38:46 GMT
I am utterly confused by all this.
If the FA cannot arrive at a decision before Monday and if that decision goes against QPR and the club decide to appeal, how is it possible that the FL are insisting that the Play Offs will still commence next Thursday?
It is not feasible that clubs can arrange ticketing, stewards, police etc in three days and thats without an appeal.
Also there is no way that the hearing process is not now prejudiced by virtue of QPR's on the pitch merits, the late timing and the fact that the FL look to have agreed on QPR receiving the Trophy tomorrow.
Throw in the possible legal action from Plymouth Argyle and the story in the Express about the FL outcomes are pretty much cut and dried at Final Whistle tomorrow and you have one hell of a powder keg.
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Post by maudesfishnchips on May 6, 2011 9:44:23 GMT
as posted on another thread
'Normal Playing Season' means the period of the year commencing with the first League Match and, for each Club, ending immediately after the completion of the Club's final fixture of the League Competition, excluding any Play-Off matches.
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Post by Macmoish on May 6, 2011 9:55:54 GMT
Warburton/Fulham Chronicle Former Manchester United trainee to decide QPR's fate COLIN Murdock and the rest of the FA independent tribunal are under pressure to deliver a verdict on the QPR points-deduction row before kick-off against Leeds tomorrow. The former Manchester United apprentice and Northern Ireland international turned solicitor is understood to have heard three days of evidence over seven alleged breaches of rules concerning the transfer of midfielder Ali Faurlin. But along with other tribunal members, has delayed a decision originally expected by 4pm today (Friday). FA sources are only too aware waters will get muddied if Rangers play Leeds without a resolution. United chairman Ken Bates has reportedly called the affair a ‘shambles’ – not least because his own club’s play-off fate could depend on the FA verdict. But Rs boss Neil Warnock insists once he gets his hands on the Championship trophy – which along with medals is expected to be presented at the end of the game – there will be a wrestling match to get it back off him. "I can’t see how they will take it back," he said, "and we intend to enjoy ourselves as well as sign off with a win." www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/london-sport/london-qpr/2011/05/06/former-manchester-united-trainee-to-decide-qpr-s-fate-82029-28646410/#ixzz1LZ4muu7O
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Post by maudesfishnchips on May 6, 2011 10:01:24 GMT
YOU TELL EM NEIL!!!
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Post by gregusmeus on May 6, 2011 10:18:07 GMT
Can the FA themselves be charged with 'bring the game into disrepute'?
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 6, 2011 10:51:54 GMT
Or at least with wasting everyone's time!
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Post by Macmoish on May 6, 2011 12:43:58 GMT
Telegraph/Thom Gibbs
Queens Park Rangers
Equally cursed and blessed – my season as a QPR supporter My mild-mannered QPR-supporting friend angrily texted me yesterday instead of "chinning" a colleague that had teased him about Rangers being stripped of promotion. Loyal supporters: QPR fans have endured a rocky 15 years, and now face an anxious wait when they should be celebrating To understand his vitriol you've got to know about the 15 years since we were last in the Premier League. A potted history: relegation, administration, relegation again, losing to a works team named Vauxhall Motors in the FA Cup, gun plots in the boardroom, Ian Holloway being unceremoniously ousted via gardening leave, the murder of 15-year-old youth teamer Kiyan Prince, an ugly brawl against China's youth side, the death of 19-year-old striker Ray Jones in a car accident, a dramatic megabucks takeover with the new owners being lauded as heroes, heroic new owners becoming figures of hatred after employing 11 managers in four years, and a constant nagging feeling that the next farce is waiting just around the corner. That litany of ridiculous and tragic situations is why taking the mickey out of a QPR fan is likely to cause a reaction akin to Michael Douglas' in Falling Down. We've mellowed this season, because it's been an uncharacteristically flawless campaign. Neil Warnock has moulded a side permanently set to "graft" and built his team around Adel Taarabt whose impudence has given me a dozen footballing memories I'll treasure for the rest of my life. This year's is a listless Championship, devoid of the pacesetting behemoths of previous seasons but QPR have led from the start, were unbeaten for the first 19 games of the season and have kept a club record 25 clean sheets. This just isn't the way QPR do things. I'm wary of supporters ascribing characteristics to their clubs – how can any organisation with such frequent turnover of staff expect to maintain a set of traits? – but Rangers fans more than most know what it's like for their club to build you up before knocking you down, usually embarrassingly. The unbeaten record looked doomed as early the fourth game of the season away at Derby. 2-0 down and playing terribly after an hour - we were back to the familiar feeling of dashed hopes. To my shame, I suggested leaving early to beat the traffic. I'm delighted my father decided he couldn't be bothered to stand up and we stayed to see two ridiculously late goals secure a point. It set the tone for the rest of the season – rarely spectacular but high on jubilant result-grinding. Similar triumphs followed: a last-minute winner at Crystal Palace, an undeserved draw on a Friday night at Bristol City, Adel Taarabt producing a legitimately magical moment to see off closest challengers Cardiff at home. I was there for all of them, relearning the giddy feeling of expecting a win before away games, anticipating home games in a way I haven't since Andy Sinton was an England international and Les Ferdinand was tearing up the Premier League in 1992/93, telling anyone that would listen that it was our year. Of course, this was folly. A convoluted set of administrative errors, murky transfer fee massaging and dreaded third party ownership emerged and Rangers' glorious season picked up a niggling injury. For what it's worth I'm not overly concerned about the verdict, whenever it arrives. At least that's what I'm telling myself as I frantically refresh Twitter and news wires every 10 minutes to see if there's any shred of new news. It's the timing that rankles. The FA were aware there was a problem in September, brought the charges in March and have now put off the verdict until after the end of the season. The blame surely lies with the club as much as the governing body, and Rangers deserve to be punished if found guilty. Such stoic reasoning is beside the point. Unless you support a handful of clubs, moments like this are once-in-a-decade. This should be our Birmingham winning the League Cup, our Norwich beating Bayern Munich, our Vauxhall Motors beating QPR Now ... nothing. Indecision, uncertainty, and frustration that QPR's clearest triumph in the 20 years I've been watching them is asterisked by the spectre of potential sanctions over low-level dodgy dealings. The celebrations at Vicarage Road as we clinched the Championship last weekend certainly did not feel muted and I hope there's a similar atmosphere of wilful denial at Loftus Road tomorrow when we receive the trophy. Whatever the outcome, this is a chance for Rangers to properly examine themselves. A club doesn't just lurch from one crisis to the next for no reason, and whatever the result of the hearing it should mark a time for QPR to sort out their internal affairs. Lakshmi Mittal underlings Ishan Saksena and Amit Bhatia have put the PR back in QPR, but erratic chairman and former agent Gianni Paladini still seems to be holding too much power at Loftus Road. If Rangers are promoted (as they should be - anything less would be a travesty given their dominance this season) it's an opportunity to re-establish themselves in the upper tier, shed their reputation as a perennial crisis club, and maybe, just maybe, win an FA Cup game for the first time since 2001 www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/8496025/Equally-cursed-and-blessed-my-season-as-a-QPR-supporter.html
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Post by Macmoish on May 6, 2011 13:45:17 GMT
Good try - but not sure it's too compelling an argument Businesses keep fingers crossed for QPR promotion confirmation
* By Greg Burns Fulham Chronicle * May 6 2011
BUSINESS leaders in Shepherd's Bush have urged the FA not to hand QPR a points deduction and prevent a promotion-winning cash injection to the area.The Super Hoops wrapped up the Championship title with a win at Watford last weekend to return to the Premier League after relegation in 1996. But the FA have put their celebrations on ice with a three-day hearing over the £3.5m signing of midfielder Alejandro Faurlin in 2009. QPR deny seven charges of third-party ownership and are being left to sweat on a decision after it was delayed by the FA. Originally due today, it will now come days after Neil Warnock's side lift their trophy at Loftus Road tomorrow and any points penalty could see them stripped of their title and left to battle it out in the play-offs. It has also left local businesses and Hammersmith and Fulham Council holding their breath to see if they can celebrate a predicted £700,000 cash windfall. Tammi Wills, chair of Shepherds Bush Pubwatch, says: "From a business perspective we hope QPR go up, as ultimately it can only be a good thing. A big point’s deduction would really pull the rug and would be very unhelpful." Charlie Raworth, chair of Shepherds Bush Business Forum, said: "If they deduct points and it meant QPR didn't go up it would be hugely disappointing and no doubt lead to all sorts of legal actions and impacts on the play-offs. "Given what happened with the Tevez affair I can't see any possible justification." If QPR's promotion is rubber-stamped, it will mean H&F can boast three top-flight teams, alongside Chelsea and Fulham. Councillor Stephen Greenhalgh, H&F leader, said: "We are proud to be the home of two fantastic top-flight football clubs and we want QPR to go up and make it a hat trick. "Shepherds Bush is already a destination with attractions like Westfield, the BBC, Shepherds Bush Theatre and Market and if QPR were to regain their place at football’s top table it would provide an additional boost for the area. "Our football clubs are key businesses locally that generate jobs and wealth for borough residents and put a lot back into our local neighbourhood www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/fulham-and-hammersmith-news/local-fulham-and-hammersmith-news/2011/05/06/businesses-keep-fingers-crossed-for-qpr-promotion-confirmation-82029-28647648/#ixzz1La0Etc9s
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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2014 7:31:37 GMT
3 Years ago today...WAITING!
(Thanks Nico De Marco for your part in the QPR Faurlingate Defense)
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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2015 1:32:52 GMT
Bump..4 Years ago
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