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Post by QPR Report on Nov 2, 2009 19:41:24 GMT
Not sure I understand what this, but ... BBC
League to investigate Turner dealThe Premier League is to investigate the sale of Hull defender Michael Turner to Sunderland in August. Two of Turner's former clubs Brentford and Charlton have allegedly lost big amounts in sell-on fees. BBC Sport understands bot h clubs have lodged letters with the Football League while the Premier League has asked Hull and Sunderland for their comments. At the time of the transfer the fee was undisclosed but Hull had previously reportedly valued Turner at £12m. Turner was one of only two players to play every minute of all his side's Premier League games last season. He joined Hull from Brentford for £350,000 in the summer of 2006, having signed for the Bees permanently from Charlton following a loan spell in December 2004. newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8338692.stm
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 2, 2009 19:42:41 GMT
Meanwhile: In SHOCK MOVE Beckham to AC MilanBBC - Beckham signs AC Milan loan deal Beckham was a big hit during his loan spell with AC Milan last season England midfielder David Beckham is to rejoin AC Milan on loan in January after the Italian club reached an agreement with Los Angeles Galaxy. Beckham, 34, is keen to play for Milan to maximise his chances of making the England squad for the 2010 World Cup. The Los Angeles Galaxy midfielder had a loan spell at Milan last season, during the Major League Soccer off-season. "I need to give myself the best chance to make the World Cup squad - playing for Milan will help me," said Beckham. "I'm committed to LA Galaxy and MLS in the long term and remain as passionate as ever about growing the game of soccer in America. "I'm completely focused on ending this season on a high note with my club by winning the MLS Cup," added Beckham, referring to the MLS play-offs. During his first Milan loan spell, Beckham scored two goals in 18 matches, helping the Serie A side qualify for the Champions League. 606: DEBATE Will this move help guarantee Beckham a place in Capello's World Cup squad? He joined Milan on an initial three-month deal in January 2009 that was extended to the end of the season. "We are very happy to see again David Beckham with the Rossoneri jersey after the splendid experience of last season," AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani told the club's official website. Beckham news pleases Capello "We are certain that this time in Europe will help the player take part in the next World Cup and to continue after his career in Los Angeles Galaxy, to whom we thank for their time." Galaxy head coach and general manager Bruce Arena added: "We are pleased to finalise David's loan to AC Milan and we look forward to his return to the Galaxy after the 2010 World Cup." Beckham's first Serie A game this season could be against Genoa at the San Siro on 6 January. newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8326285.stm
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Post by eusebio13 on Nov 2, 2009 20:25:02 GMT
Meanwhile: In SHOCK MOVE Beckham to AC MilanBBC - Beckham signs AC Milan loan deal Beckham was a big hit during his loan spell with AC Milan last season England midfielder David Beckham is to rejoin AC Milan on loan in January after the Italian club reached an agreement with Los Angeles Galaxy. Beckham, 34, is keen to play for Milan to maximise his chances of making the England squad for the 2010 World Cup. The Los Angeles Galaxy midfielder had a loan spell at Milan last season, during the Major League Soccer off-season. "I need to give myself the best chance to make the World Cup squad - playing for Milan will help me," said Beckham. "I'm committed to LA Galaxy and MLS in the long term and remain as passionate as ever about growing the game of soccer in America. "I'm completely focused on ending this season on a high note with my club by winning the MLS Cup," added Beckham, referring to the MLS play-offs. During his first Milan loan spell, Beckham scored two goals in 18 matches, helping the Serie A side qualify for the Champions League. 606: DEBATE Will this move help guarantee Beckham a place in Capello's World Cup squad? He joined Milan on an initial three-month deal in January 2009 that was extended to the end of the season. "We are very happy to see again David Beckham with the Rossoneri jersey after the splendid experience of last season," AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani told the club's official website. Beckham news pleases Capello "We are certain that this time in Europe will help the player take part in the next World Cup and to continue after his career in Los Angeles Galaxy, to whom we thank for their time." Galaxy head coach and general manager Bruce Arena added: "We are pleased to finalise David's loan to AC Milan and we look forward to his return to the Galaxy after the 2010 World Cup." Beckham's first Serie A game this season could be against Genoa at the San Siro on 6 January. newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8326285.stm Report in no obvious link post shock
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 2, 2009 20:29:01 GMT
No link. Just trying to cut down (very slightly) on startingnumerous new threads on minor non-QPR subjects.
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Post by eusebio13 on Nov 2, 2009 20:32:06 GMT
World ends next Thursday meanwhile R's still need leftback
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Post by scarletpimple on Nov 2, 2009 20:37:41 GMT
Meanwhile: In SHOCK MOVE Beckham to AC MilanBBC - Beckham signs AC Milan loan deal Beckham was a big hit during his loan spell with AC Milan last season England midfielder David Beckham is to rejoin AC Milan on loan in January after the Italian club reached an agreement with Los Angeles Galaxy. Beckham, 34, is keen to play for Milan to maximise his chances of making the England squad for the 2010 World Cup. The Los Angeles Galaxy midfielder had a loan spell at Milan last season, during the Major League Soccer off-season. "I need to give myself the best chance to make the World Cup squad - playing for Milan will help me," said Beckham. "I'm committed to LA Galaxy and MLS in the long term and remain as passionate as ever about growing the game of soccer in America. "I'm completely focused on ending this season on a high note with my club by winning the MLS Cup," added Beckham, referring to the MLS play-offs. During his first Milan loan spell, Beckham scored two goals in 18 matches, helping the Serie A side qualify for the Champions League. 606: DEBATE Will this move help guarantee Beckham a place in Capello's World Cup squad? He joined Milan on an initial three-month deal in January 2009 that was extended to the end of the season. "We are very happy to see again David Beckham with the Rossoneri jersey after the splendid experience of last season," AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani told the club's official website. Beckham news pleases Capello "We are certain that this time in Europe will help the player take part in the next World Cup and to continue after his career in Los Angeles Galaxy, to whom we thank for their time." Galaxy head coach and general manager Bruce Arena added: "We are pleased to finalise David's loan to AC Milan and we look forward to his return to the Galaxy after the 2010 World Cup." Beckham's first Serie A game this season could be against Genoa at the San Siro on 6 January. newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8326285.stm Report in no obvious link post shock Dont they play football out there then......funny old game.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Nov 2, 2009 22:45:10 GMT
World ends next Thursday meanwhile R's still need leftback I thought the world was meant to end in 2012??
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 2, 2009 22:56:41 GMT
Old enough to remember the comet kohoutekand "The End"?
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Nov 3, 2009 7:15:40 GMT
World ends next Thursday meanwhile R's still need leftback ;D And finally...
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 3, 2009 7:26:34 GMT
Meanwhile... Guardian/Jeremy Cross
Adam Pearson aims for Hull clear-out to help tackle debts• Adam Pearson returns to Hull and seeks £18m in savings• 'We need to get back in shape' Monday 2 November 2009 Hull City's new executive chairman, Adam Pearson, will conduct a major cull in the new year in an attempt to ease the financial problems at the troubled Premier League club. Pearson took up his position in an official capacity on Monday after succeeding Paul Duffen, who resigned as the chairman and chief executive last week when it emerged Hull had debts of £27m. Pearson needs to find around £18m before the end of the season to make sure Hull remain solvent and his first task will be to reduce a wage bill of £40m – with the manager Phil Brown's future also still up in the air. Although Brown has won a stay of execution, he may not be around to see the overhaul of the squad that Pearson intends to implement. Players expected to leave include George Boateng, Bernard Mendy, Richard Garcia, Peter Halmosi, Caleb Folan, Daniel Cousin, Tony Warner and Ibrahima Sonko. Pearson, who oversaw an annual wage bill of only £3.5m before he left Hull, then in the Championship, in 2007 having appointed Brown the previous year, has vowed to get the club back on track and is confident of solving the problems he has inherited. He has launched an internal investigation into every transfer the club have completed during the past two years amid reports that £5.5m has been spent on agents' fees, including £500,000 in the purchase of Jimmy Bullard from Fulham.Pearson said: "We need to get back in shape to make sure the long-term future of the club is secure. It's nothing that's not retrievable but we need to reduce the size of the playing squad, which in the Premier League is the key point. We're certainly not in a situation where we need to sell players we want to keep. We just want to make sure that the club is being run efficiently and prudently. The position of the club is manageable going forward but, if it had been left much longer, there was a danger of it becoming more serious. At this stage of the season, it's achievable that we can turn this around." Pearson insists Brown will remain as manager until at least Stoke's visit on Sunday but refused to offer any long-term security. "Phil will be manager on Sunday but there's no point me saying he's got a job for life, that's not the case," Pearson said. "How secure is the manager? That's a tricky one, I think if we don't get results then that security goes down. Phil knows that, it's the business we're in. It's been a difficult year and we need to achieve results quickly. We're all in this together but we'll have to see what happens over the next couple of weeks." Pearson has opened talks with potential backers and is hopeful of securing investment before Christmas. He added: "It's part of my remit to get extra money into the club. Every Premier League club is in a position where it is looking for external investment. It's a big responsibility financially for myself and Russell [Bartlett, the club's owner] to manage alone and we are looking to ease that burden and provide a secure foundation for the club. I'll be running the club from top to bottom, get it back on track and work strictly within the financial budgets that have been set." www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/02/hull-adam-pearson-phil-brown
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 3, 2009 8:26:52 GMT
Mail - EXCLUSIVE: Cash-crisis Premier league strugglers Hull blew £5.5m on agents By Matt Lawton 03rd November 2009 Hull City are believed to have spent a staggering £5.5million in agents’ fees in the two years Paul Duffen was the club’s chairman and chief executive. New executive chairman Adam Pearson launched an investigation into Hull’s transfer dealings - such as Jimmy Bullard’s capture from Fulham - on Monday when he officially took over from Duffen, who left the KC Stadium last week after the full scale of the club’s financial crisis was revealed. The majority of the bigger deals were done through leading London-based agency The Stellar Group, who received a fee of around £500,000 when Hull paid a club record fee of £5million to Fulham for Bullard in January. Pearson, sources say, cannot fathom why such a high fee needed to be paid when the terms on offer - a £10m, five-year deal - meant luring Bullard to Humberside was never going to be difficult. The figure of £5.5m would amount to approximately 20 per cent of the total transfer fees paid in the period Duffen was in charge. This is an alarming amount, especially for a club now in such deep financial trouble. The internal investigation being led by Pearson will try to establish why, under Duffen, so many of the deals, in particular the bigger ones, involved one agency. When Pearson, who saved Hull from administration in 2001, handed over the reins to Duffen the club had £1m in the bank and a relatively modest wage bill of £3.5m a year. Little more than two years later Hull are said to have debts of £27m and an astonishing wage bill of £40m a year, among the highest in the Premier League. Duffen has admitted his tenure at the KC Stadium ended because of his failings in the transfer market. New chairman: Adam Pearson ‘I come from an industrial background where if things aren’t going very well the buck stops with the guy at the top,’ he said last week. ‘Whatever the financial constraints, we have been active in the transfer market. ‘We have been running the club in a certain way, which is the way I believed it would be successful. While Phil Brown is ultimately the man on the pitch, I believe it is my responsibility to oversee the transfer market.’ Pearson promised yesterday that Brown will be in charge for Hull’s home game against Stoke on Sunday, adding: ‘Phil is the manager of Hull City and he still will be next Sunday. 'It’s a results business but he retains my full support. I’ll be there to provide as much support as is possible for the manager. ‘I’ll bring a fresh pair of eyes to it and hopefully, in conjunction with the manager, we can turn things around on the pitch.’ www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1224812/EXCLUSIVE-Cash-crisis-Premier-league-strugglers-Hull-blew-5-5m-agents.html#ixzz0VmbiMKMv
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Post by haqpr1963 on Nov 3, 2009 9:07:27 GMT
Old enough to remember the comet kohoutekand "The End"? Didn't GP sign him a couple of years ago?
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Post by dk on Nov 4, 2009 0:25:46 GMT
Didn't the Camp and Blackstock transfers to Forest, raise suspicions during the summer.
Big sell on percentage clause for Camp owed to Derby, relatively low fee agreed compared with some of the figures quoted in Jan. Blackstock deal not announced until some time later (even though 'the word' was that it was a done deal) with the transfer fee quoted at the higher end of expectations.
Or maybe we should all keep schtum for fear of an investigation!
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 4, 2009 7:37:31 GMT
In honesty, I don't think either deal raised questions like that. More over why we were selling them, especially Blackstock. And why Briatore in particular, wanted him gone.
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 4, 2009 7:38:20 GMT
Telegraph/Rob Stewart
Hull City deny wrongdoing over Michael Turner sale New Hull City chairman Adam Pearson has insisted a Premier League investigation into the club's sale of Michael Turner to Sunderland is "wholly unfounded" because "nothing untoward" had taken place. In the spotlight: Premier League is to investigate the transfer of defender Michael Turner from Hull City to Sunderland Photo: PA Pearson spoke out as the league decided to scrutinise Turner's move to the Stadium of Light following complaints from his previous clubs Charlton Athletic and Brentford. Concerns have been raised by the League One clubs about the transfer fee involved because Hull City's prized asset was allowed to move to Sunderland for a meagre £3.5 million which had an adverse effect on sell-on clauses negotiated earlier in his career. But, speaking for the first time on the issue since he succeeded Paul Duffen in the KC Stadium chairman's office, Pearson has claimed the struggling Yorkshire club had no cause for concern over the deal. "From what I can see, an investigation is wholly unfounded," Pearson said. "We're entirely comfortable, there's nothing untoward as far as I can see. "I think the two clubs have seen inflated figures in the press but the only thing we could be accused of is not maximising the fee at the best possible time." Pearson, who left the chairman's post Derby last week to come to his former club's rescue, took a swipe at Duffen for failing to cash in on Turner whose transfer fee has not been officially disclosed by either club. "Under no circumstances was it a financial necessity to sell Michael Turner," he said. "I can only second guess what people were thinking but there was probably a feeling that the player wanted to go and that was the best possible deal available for him. "All I can say is that there's no requirement to sell players we want to keep." There have been suggestions that the value of Turner's transfer could rise to £8 million but Pearson has refuted those claims. "It's not incremental; the total amount of cash we will receive for Michael Turner is £2.8m. Those are the facts. "The cash generated from that deal after paying Brentford and Charlton is £2.8m and in light of what we've been spending on players, I would tend to suggest that it's a disappointing return for the player. "With hindsight, I'm not sure that Aug 31 was the best time to sell Michael Turner and certainly not at that price. We've had to pay a transfer fee for Paul McShane of £500,000 but that's a separate deal." The Premier League investigation into Turner's move will be heard the week commencing Nov 30. Meanwhile, Pearson is setting his sights on moving 15 players out of the KC Stadium in the near future as he tries to cut a crippling £40-million wage bill that is threatening to send the club into financial meltdown. It means Pearson will try to ease out the likes of Daniel Cousin, George Boateng and Bernard Mendy who all pick up in excess of £24,000 per week while Peter Halmosi and Craig Fagan have also emerged as potential fall guys. "We have too many players; it is as simple as that," Pearson said. "There are 40 at the club, plus all the kids, and I would envisage that number having to come down by 15 or so. "In a way, the club has been a victim of its own success as it has come a long way in a very short space of time. As I know from my time here when we won back-to-back promotions, it is easy to accumulate players on your way up. "Clearly, the number has to come down. But what I will say to supporters is this club is miles away from having to sell the players it wants to keep. "The departures I am talking about concern those who are not in the team." www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/hullcity/6493751/Hull-City-deny-wrongdoing-over-Michael-Turner-sale.html
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 5, 2009 7:50:01 GMT
Guardian
Hull made only £2.8m from selling Michael Turner says new chairman• £12m-rated defender sold for £4m, with 33% going to old clubs • Chairman dismisses call for inquiry from Brentford and CharltonThe new Hull City chairman, Adam Pearson, has said the club received only £2.8m from selling the defender Michael Turner to Sunderland, despite Turner previously being valued at £12m. Pearson revealed the figure while insisting the club is "in no danger of going out of business" despite Hull's accounts – released last week, five months behind schedule – showing borrowings of £22m. But Pearson, who resigned his post at Derby County to return to the KC Stadium, is adamant the club will survive, and did not sell Turner to raise funds. He told the Hull Daily Mail: "If I felt the club was in imminent danger I'd have thought long and hard about coming back. Every problem at this club is solvable and the supporters should rest assured the club is in no danger of going out of business or going into administration." Pearson said there had been "no necessity" to sell Turner in August to raise funds. He said the defender was sold for £4m, with 33% of the fee going to the defender's former clubs Brentford and Charlton, who have since called on the Premier League to investigate the sums involved in the deal given the player's previously publicised valuation. "Under no circumstances was it a financial necessity to sell Michael Turner. I can only second guess what people were thinking but there was probably a feeling the player wanted to go and that was the best possible deal available for him. "It's not incremental, the total amount of cash we will receive for Michael Turner is £2.8m. Those are the facts. "From what I can see, an investigation is unfounded. I think the two clubs have seen inflated figures in the press but the only thing we could be accused of is not maximising the fee at the best possible time." www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/03/michael-turner-adam-pearson-hull
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Post by QPR Report on Nov 5, 2009 7:51:04 GMT
David Conn/The Guardian
Russell Bartlett provides cash to keep Hull City trading• Club's owner puts up own money for day-to-day costs • New chairman admits £38m wage bill has to be slashedHull City's owner,, the property investor Russell Bartlett,, has been forced to pay his own money into the club to fund its day-to-day trading. The Tigers are struggling to meet their financial commitments, principally because of a wage bill – £38m annually for a squad of 41 players– described by the returning chairman, Adam Pearson, as "not manageable". Pearson, who sold City to Bartlett in 2007, returned to the KC Stadium on Monday following Paul Duffen's departure. He claims Hull's borrowings are £9m, relatively low for the Premier League but the club cannot support wages for players on so lavish a scale. He would not disclose how much Bartlett has put in this week to ensure the club can pay its way, but said: "Russell Bartlett is a good owner who has put his own money into the club and he continues to fund it privately." As soon as he was appointed by Bartlett, Pearson commissioned auditors to produce an assessment of City's financial position. It revealed the debt figure of £9m and, he said, a reduction from the £22m bank borrowings cited in City's accounts for the year to 31 July 2008. Pearson described the debts, and overall financial situation, as "manageable," but the wage bill is not, and he is certain to try to sell several players in the January transfer window. Bartlett's latest injection of cash is to provide the club with the wherewithal to conduct its business until then. "I am pleased to see that the official debt figure is now £9m, one of the lowest in the Premier League," Pearson said. "The problem is to reduce the wage bill, which is £38m, from the sheer weight of players on the club's books. My job is to reduce that." Pearson confirmed that the club must comply with the stern warnings given in the accounts, which, as revealed by the Guardian last week, stated there is: "Material uncertainty which may cast significant doubt about the company's ability to continue as a going concern". The club's accountants, Deloitte, wrote that even if City, currently lying 18th in the Premier League, survive at the end of this season, they must still make a £16m surplus to meet all their costs. If the Tigers are relegated, they must make a £23m surplus, which will be much more difficult without the windfall of Premier League TV money. Pearson is confident that City will meet the required surplus from TV money if they do survive, and maintained that even if the club is relegated, it would be able to raise the required £23m. Inevitably, players will be sold or released to drive the wage bill down, and Pearson also hopes to attract new investors to the club. He is "optimistic" about that prospect, having established that the debts are lower than the £27m he believed them to be when he first returned to Hull. www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/04/russell-bartlett-hull-city-cash
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