QPR REPORT MESSAGEBOARD
« Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comments »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
May 20, 2013, 3:52am




QPR REPORT MESSAGEBOARD :: General :: All QPR and General Football News and Discussion :: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comments
   [Search This Thread] [Share Topic] [Print]
 AuthorTopic: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comments (Read 389 times)
QPR Report
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 26,170
 Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comments
« Thread Started on Oct 7, 2009, 10:07pm »

The Times/Gary Jacob

"....Briatore’s case is equally complex and could have wider implications for the game and the application of the fit and proper persons test. The Italian is considering contesting the judgment by the FIA, the governing body of world motor sport, that as managing director of the Renault Formula One team, he was responsible for Nelson Piquet Jr deliberately crashing his car in last year’s Singapore Grand Prix.

The League requested information from the FIA and consulted three barristers for advice, but Mawhinney warned that there were legal obstacles to overcome to prevent Briatore from continuing as QPR chairman.

We need to have legal clarity if somebody is in difficulties with another sporting body as to exactly what the nature of that difficulty is before we apply our regulation,” Mawhinney said. “So this is complex. We will work hard to come up with policy decisions.

“I would like to come out of the board meeting with settled policies on these issues which would then apply to any current and future cases that will need to be considered.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/f....icle6865442.ece
« Last Edit: Oct 7, 2009, 11:32pm by QPR Report »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Gianni Paladini to QPR Report: "I would like to thank you for all your time and efforts that you put into QPR. I think you are doing something useful and informative for the club and the supporters."
QPR Report
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 26,170
 Re: Mawhinney Comment re Briatore Issue
« Reply #1 on Oct 7, 2009, 10:09pm »

And in The Guardian/Owen Gibson

"....Also on the agenda will be Flavio Briatore's position as a major shareholder in QPR, following the decision of the World Motor Sport Council effectively to ban him from the sport over the Renault "crashgate" affair. Under the league's "fit and proper person" test any director or club owner is forbidden if banned by another governing body.

Mawhinney has consulted senior legal advisors over the extent to which any decisions could be challenged in the courts. "We need to have legal clarity if somebody is in difficulty with a different sporting organisation as to what exactly the nature of that difficulty is before we try to apply our regulations," he said. "I have taken leading counsel's advice, so we will be going into the board meeting with the benefit of that advice."

If an individual fails the fit and proper person test, the club would be given a deadline with which to comply with the rules or face being thrown out of the league.

The ownership of Leeds United will be discussed, too. The ultimate ownership of the club through the offshore Forward Sports Fund vehicle has been cast into doubt by the statement of their chairman, Ken Bates, that he had made an "error" in saying that he and Patrick Murrin were the sole shareholders in the company.

Mawhinney is coming towards the end of his stewardship of the league and sees the proper application of rules that were first introduced in 2004 as part of his legacy. He repeated his call for government support in tracking down the ultimate offshore owners' of clubs but attempted to manage expectations by saying there was only so much the league could do.

"We picked our regulations because we are the small league. We are not as financially blessed as other football organisations," he said. "No matter how much we might aspire, we have to be sensible about what we are able to do."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/....football-league
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Gianni Paladini to QPR Report: "I would like to thank you for all your time and efforts that you put into QPR. I think you are doing something useful and informative for the club and the supporters."
QPR Report
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 26,170
 Re: Mawhinney Comment re Briatore Issue
« Reply #2 on Oct 7, 2009, 10:10pm »

Would be interesting to know:
Does Briatore have a legal rep there (I imagine). Do QPR have a seperate one? If so, what position is he taking
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Gianni Paladini to QPR Report: "I would like to thank you for all your time and efforts that you put into QPR. I think you are doing something useful and informative for the club and the supporters."
QPR Report
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 26,170
 Re: Mawhinney Comment re Briatore Issue
« Reply #3 on Oct 7, 2009, 11:21pm »

The Sun

FLAVIO BRIATORE is set to be kicked out of QPR by the Football League today.

Disgraced F1 cheat Briatore - banned for life by motor racing's governing body - is now expected to be banished from football, too.

The decision will be taken at a landmark board meeting today, when Notts County's controversial takeover will also be discussed.

SunSport's shock investigation into the club's ownership left officials with grave concerns about who actually controls the League Two outfit.

But Briatore's co-ownership of QPR will be the main item on the agenda after his role in F1's crashgate scandal.

The former Renault supremo was banned from the sport for instructing one of his drivers, Nelson Piquet Jnr, to deliberately crash during last year's Singapore Grand Prix.

There were concerns that Briatore would fight the ban, making it difficult for the League to boot him out as well.

But the Italian missed the appeal deadline, leaving Football League chairman Lord Mawhinney free to show him the door
.

Notts County are also sweating on whether their takeover by Middle East consortium Munto Finance is ruled fit and proper.

Munto hired ex-England boss Sven Goran Eriksson as director of football and pledged to take the club into the Championship within five years.

But SunSport revealed one of the club's powerbrokers, Russell King, is a former jailbird with links to a company under investigation for fraud.

And the man County suggested was one of their main backers, Anwar Shafi, vehemently denies any involvement - leaving the true identity of the club's owners a mystery.

County's executive chairman Peter Trembling admitted: "The owners are genuine about what they want to do.

"I don't envisage any problems and, if there were, I fear the consequences."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/spo....the-bullet.html
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Gianni Paladini to QPR Report: "I would like to thank you for all your time and efforts that you put into QPR. I think you are doing something useful and informative for the club and the supporters."
sharpy
Guest
 Re: Mawhinney Comment re Briatore Issue
« Reply #4 on Oct 7, 2009, 11:23pm »

Why do you keep asking yourself questions ?

Hope you have the large box,at HAND today.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
QPR Report
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 26,170
 Re: Mawhinney Comment re Briatore Issue
« Reply #5 on Oct 7, 2009, 11:24pm »

The Star

FLAVIO D-DAY
ABOVE: Flavio Briatore could be booted out for breaking League rules 8th October 2009 By Paul Brown
FLAVIO BRIATORE faces ­D-Day with the Football League this morning – and could be kicked out of the game for good.



The former Renault team boss has ­already been banned from Formula One over the ‘Crashgate’ scandal ­surrounding last year’s Singapore Grand Prix.

And the Football League will decide at a board meeting in London today ­whether he will be forced to quit as ­co-owner and chairman of QPR.

League chairman Lord Mawhinney said: “We have at least a couple of fit and proper person issues to address, and we will address them.




“I would like to come out of the board meeting with settled policies on these i­ssues which would then apply to any current and future cases.




“We will work hard to come up with ­policy decisions.




“We need to have legal clarity, if somebody is in difficulties with ­another sporting body, before we ­apply our regulation.”




Mawhinney has consulted ­lawyers and requested full details of the case from the FIA, motorsport’s ruling power.




But League rules state individuals ­cannot be a director or hold a majority interest in a club if they are banned from another sport’s governing body. Meanwhile, Mawhinney has also urged Notts ­County’s mystery owners to come clean about their identities.




He added: “Would I encourage them to say who they are? Yes.




“My personal view is that if people wish to operate outside the country for tax and money or other legitimate ­reasons, then they have every right to do so under law.




“But if they want to play in our league, then we would like to know that.”




The League board meets today for ­further investigation into Munto ­Finance’s buy out at Meadow Lane.




But County executive chairman Peter Trembling fears the millionaire Middle East backers of the club could pull out if the League fails to ratify their takeover.


“They’re still enthusiastic about this football club and about this project, but there is a real air of concern at the ­moment,” said Trembling.


“I expect a 100 per cent ratification, I don’t envisage any problems. If there were, I fear the consequences.”

Trembling held a meeting over the weekend with one of the club’s new owners and insists County have become the victims of a vendetta and jealousy.

He said: “The unprecedented backlash they’ve had from certain sections of the media has been quite scandalous.”

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/102625/Flavio-D-Day/
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Gianni Paladini to QPR Report: "I would like to thank you for all your time and efforts that you put into QPR. I think you are doing something useful and informative for the club and the supporters."
sharpy
Guest
 Re: Mawhinney Comment re Briatore Issue
« Reply #6 on Oct 7, 2009, 11:25pm »

DP
« Last Edit: Oct 7, 2009, 11:25pm by sharpy »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
QPR Report
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 26,170
 Re: Mawhinney Comment re Briatore Issue
« Reply #7 on Oct 7, 2009, 11:29pm »


Oct 7, 2009, 11:23pm, sharpy wrote:
Why do you keep asking yourself questions ?

Hope you have the large box,at HAND today.


Welcome back Sharpy :D
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Gianni Paladini to QPR Report: "I would like to thank you for all your time and efforts that you put into QPR. I think you are doing something useful and informative for the club and the supporters."
QPR Report
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 26,170
 Re: Mawhinney Comment re Briatore Issue
« Reply #8 on Oct 7, 2009, 11:32pm »

Independent

Briatore in line of fire as League gets tough


Disgraced F1 boss likely to be thrown out of football in 'fit and proper person' crackdown with Notts County and Leeds also under scrutiny

By Ian Herbert and Glenn Moore

Flavio Briatore is expected to fail the Football League's 'fit and proper person' test

The Football League will today seek a legally watertight way of disqualifying Flavio Briatore, the owner of Queen's Park Rangers, from the board of the club.

Lord Mawhinney, who will chair the meeting which will consider the Briatore case and also decide whether the owners of Notts County and Leeds United meet the League's "fit and proper person" test, knows that the first of these provides the most searching examination of ownership rules to date.

The test bars individuals who are the subject of a ban "from involvement in the administration of a sport by a sports governing body or such other similar forms of disqualification as may operate from time to time." The latter of the two appears to provide Briatore with no get-out, with the World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) having refused to recognise any teams or drivers engaging him in "any capacity".

The best course open to Briatore and his lawyers, who have tabled their case in his defence, would appear to be an argument that he should not be banned ahead of the outcome of any appeal into the WMSC's ruling. Mawhinney, the Football League chairman, knows the significance of the case at a time when profound questions are being asked of both the Premier League and Football League "fit and proper person" regimes. "We need to have legal clarity if somebody is in difficulty with a different sporting organisation as to exactly what the nature of that difficulty is before we try to apply our regulation," he said yesterday.

"This is complex and complicated. I have taken legal counsel's advice, we will be going into the meeting with the benefit of that advice. It isn't simple, and it isn't straightforward. But I've been around a bit, I have quite good hearing, I understand what's being said and we will reflect that as a board."

Leading sports lawyer Adam Morallee, whose specialisms include governance, said: "The question at issue will be whether the [WMSC] ban is a permanent ban or one subject to appeal."

The League's decision carries huge significance for QPR. Though Briatore brought Formula One rights holder Bernie Ecclestone and steel billionaire Lakshmi Mittal on board at Loftus Road, he is the one seen regularly at the club. A disqualification for the flamboyant Italian could see all three of them seeking a way out and QPR being put up for sale.

It will be a day of major significance for the issue of football club ownership in general. The decision for the League in the Notts County case is whether the club's new owners, the investors in the Qadbak investment fund, registered in the tax-haven of the British Virgin Islands and of which little is yet known, may pass the same test.

The Leeds case relates to chairman Ken Bates' acknowledgement of his mistake in saying he jointly owned the club's holding company, the Forward Sports Fund. In fact, Forward, registered in the tax-haven of the Cayman Islands, has 10,000 shares, whose owners are yet to be ascertained. Mawhinney said of the latter case: "The law of the land allows money to be 'hidden' offshore for tax purposes. Personally, I do not believe that owners' identities should also be hidden from the League, as the representative of fans, if their clubs want to play in our League. But as everyone in the League recognises this tradition will not be easy to change."

The League's decision comes amid questions over the identity of the newest Premier League owner and his financial viability: Ali al-Faraj, who became proprietor of Portsmouth this week. It is understood that the Premier League adjudged him "fit and proper" six weeks ago – shortly before he was beaten to the ownership of the club by Sulaiman al-Fahim, who was also adjudged "fit and proper" though his investment in the club never materialised.

The Premier League is comfortable with the decision on Faraj and consider the absence of published information on him to be a reflection of the private nature of business in Saudi Arabia. Pompey insist that Faraj is the individual to drive the club on. Further inquiries by The Independent in the Middle East yesterday were unable to establish whether he is a source of money, or actually a front man for another investor.

One deal-maker, who has been involved in discussions with the Football League over a prospective move to bring an investor to a major club, said yesterday that neither it nor the Premier League had the resources to submit prospective owners to a due diligence process so as to make the fit and proper person test a rigorous one. "It's a fallacy that it's called a test," he said. "It's a form you fill in and essentially you self-certify. The form doesn't get 'approved' as such but no one ever generally fails. If it transpires that you have a murky past, then they are down on you like a ton of bricks."

Fit and proper: Ownership regulations

The Football League was the first Governing Body in football to introduce a 'Fit and Proper Person Test' in 2004.

It is a breach of League rules to be a director or hold a majority interest in a club if you:

* Are subject to a ban from a sports governing body relating to the administration of the sport.

* Have an unspent conviction in relation to fraud or dishonesty.

* Are disqualified as a director of a UK registered company.

* Are currently subject to a bankruptcy order.

* Have been a director of any club that has been in administration twice during a five-year period.

Katie Nixon

What next? How the ruling may affect QPR

What decision does the Football League have to make today about QPR's ownership?

Whether to declare that the club's chairman and major shareholder, Flavio Briatore, now fails its 'fit and proper person' test (FAPPT) of ownership because of his antics in Formula 1; and if he does, whether they can force him off the board and to dispose of his stake.

What precedents are there?

None. This is a landmark case in terms of assessing whether and how to force a majority shareholder to relinquish shares and control.

Does the League have the right and legal power to force Briatore out?

By the letter of its FAPPT, if his ban from F1 is upheld (and he is appealing that, which complicates this case), he should no longer be chairman or owner of QPR. The League has leeway to give Briatore a certain time period, yet to be determined, to step down and sell his shares. How they can enforce that is a different, legally complex issue if he does not go quietly.

Would QPR miss him?

He's the minnow of the three main owners in wealth terms. Lakshmi Mittal (who owns 20 per cent), is reportedly worth £18.4bn, Bernie Ecclestone (15 per cent) £1.5bn, and Briatore (34 per cent) a relative pittance at £110m. Arguably a bigger loss than his cash would be the 59-year-old's strategic and management experience in building brands, attracting sponsors and marketing the club in a global environment he knows well.

James Mariner

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footb....h-1799132.ht ml
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Gianni Paladini to QPR Report: "I would like to thank you for all your time and efforts that you put into QPR. I think you are doing something useful and informative for the club and the supporters."
londonranger
Global Moderator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]





Joined: May 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,751
 Re: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comment
« Reply #9 on Oct 8, 2009, 12:13am »

Certainly doesnt sound good for flav from press point of view.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

"Weavie's Poster Of The Year 2008/09"
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2665/potysmallc.jpg
londonranger
Global Moderator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]





Joined: May 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,751
 Re: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comment
« Reply #10 on Oct 8, 2009, 2:31am »

To order someone to crash into a wall is the sign of a disturbed mind. For a driver to actually do this is a sign of another disordered mind.

What drives people to become like this? A lust for money, no matter what it takes. If these things actually are factual, then whatever the consequences meted out are deserved, imo.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

"Weavie's Poster Of The Year 2008/09"
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2665/potysmallc.jpg
Zed
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

West London is R's



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,086
 Re: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comment
« Reply #11 on Oct 8, 2009, 6:56am »


Oct 8, 2009, 12:13am, londonranger wrote:
Certainly doesnt sound good for flav from press point of view.


The sharks are circling the boat...
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

[image] [image]
QPR Report
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 26,170
 Re: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comment
« Reply #12 on Oct 8, 2009, 7:00am »

[image]


"Gianni...Gianni" ::)
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Gianni Paladini to QPR Report: "I would like to thank you for all your time and efforts that you put into QPR. I think you are doing something useful and informative for the club and the supporters."
QPR Report
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 26,170
 Re: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comment
« Reply #13 on Oct 8, 2009, 7:04am »

If not appealed, sounds like he's not defending himself. Of course if he really wanted to stay on, could also cut his share numbers

Paul Kelso/Telegraph
"...2. Queens Park Rangers League rules say anyone banned from the “involvement in the administration of a sport” is not a “fit and proper person” to have a 30 per cent or more stake in a club. After his World Motor Sport Council ban, Flavio Briatore must be subjected to the test, to decide whether it is acceptable that he continues as chairman of QPR... "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footbal....ub-owners.html#
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Gianni Paladini to QPR Report: "I would like to thank you for all your time and efforts that you put into QPR. I think you are doing something useful and informative for the club and the supporters."
cpr
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Who is BazWoT?



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 22,667
Location: Walton on Thames
 Re: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comment
« Reply #14 on Oct 8, 2009, 7:32am »

Makes you laugh, I could wrie for these papers as I can make up rubbish as well.

"He has not appealed in time" What a load of crap! He has not been charged by the football with anything to appeal against, they haven't even discussed his case yet ffs!

Certain members of the press waging vendettas methinks and as you say they are circling. I don't think they are sharks though, sharks aren't cowards, Briatore knows a shark of that I am certain.

He was also not involved in the administration of another sport so how does he fail?

I may or may not like or want the bloke but the smear and lies is wrong. Again though, nhe will recognise the wrongs.

He will only have representation there today if he has been requested to do so and nobody knows whether that is the case.

We await the thoughts of Chairman Maw. ;D
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

[image]
Zed
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

West London is R's



Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,086
 Re: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comment
« Reply #15 on Oct 8, 2009, 11:02am »

If Master Bates comes out unscathed today is there any reason why Flav can't move the holding company to an offshore account and avoid scrutiny in the same way?
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

[image] [image]
Floridar
Dave Sexton
***
member is offline





Joined: Mar 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,526
Location: The Sunshine State
 Re: Briatore Set to be Ousted & Mawhinney Comment
« Reply #16 on Oct 8, 2009, 11:31am »

Y ... what goes around etc
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
   [Search This Thread] [Share Topic] [Print]


Icon Legend
Locked Thread Locked and Sticky Thread
Sticky Thread
Hot Thread Very Hot Thread

Click Here To Make This Board Ad-Free


This Board Hosted For FREE By ProBoards
Get Your Own Free Message Boards & Free Forums!
Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | Notice | FTC Disclosure | Report Abuse | Mobile