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Post by QPR Report on Dec 2, 2008 8:21:49 GMT
[ See also other thread: "Racist Chanting Declines & Arrests Including QPR" qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=616
Goal.com - English Debate: Are Controversial Chants Really That Bad, Or Do They Come With The Territory?Goal.com's Alan Dawson asks, in highlight of the controversial chants voiced at the Manchester derby, whether English culture is getting too politically correct, or if there is indeed no place for this sort of banter. For the second week running Cristiano Ronaldo has attracted headlines for his displays of unashamed petulance. It would have therefore been common practice to ask, in today's debate, whether or not Sir Alex Ferguson should put his world-renowned man-management skills to the test and try to calm his winger's arrogance, but something more interesting and, for some, more sinister arose from Sunday's clash between local rivals City and United at the weekend. In the Manchester derby staged at Old Trafford last season in February, great respect was paid by both sides to commemorate the lives of those who had died in the Munich air disaster in 1958. Special kits had been designed for both sides, and Sven Goran Eriksson (then City boss) together with Sir Alex Ferguson laid wreaths in the centre circle. Manchester City had initially spoken to Old Trafford chiefs about replacing the scheduled minutes silence with a minute of applause for fear that some people may deliberately spoil affairs. Any trepidation was unfounded though as both sets of fans honoured the dead in an appropriate fashion. However, during Sunday's game controversial terrace chants could be heard surfacing from a selection of City's support. "Same old Munich's, always cheating." "You dirty Munich b*stards." Were just some of the low-lights. Considering the sensitive nature of these comments it is easy to jump to criticism at those who spat the controversy with the benefit of lucid hindsight. Even upon Mark Hughes' installment as City manager he was referred to, by an un-named Citizen, as: 'alright for a Munich.' These terms are thrown around with such regularity that it eventually dilutes the original meaning. Fans say things on the terraces that they may not repeat when they return to work on the Monday. The glib throwaway comments some fans may have made when Hughes arrived at City may have been said without due thought, and fall some way short of the racist chanting that comes to the fore elsewhere, but does this make it acceptable? Should stewards adopt similar policies to controversial chants like the ones during the Manchester derby as they would with say, racist remarks? There are occasions when it would be impossible to police, as two rivals battle to out-chant the other when it comes to inciting strife. During the days when Leeds United were a Premier League side and gaming against the red side of Manchester it was not uncommon to hear songs sung in the key of: "Always look on the bright side of life," but instead of the Monty Python mock-up, the Yorkshire outfit would chant: "Always look out for runways covered in ice." Harsh, one might say, but Red Devils supporters would riposte with: "Always look out for Turks carrying knives," in reference to the 2000 Champions League clash between Leeds and Galatasaray that ended with two Peathingys stabbed to death. The term 'Yid' is often seen as a disparaging word but in footballing jargon it has been applied by Spurs supporters as a badge of honour. However, calling a Manchester United fan a Munich in the street will likely reward you with a well-landed left hook square on the bridge of your nose. The point is, clearly the rules for those who walk in the footballing echelons differ to those looking in from the 'real' world. What are your thoughts on this subject? Do you think British culture is getting too politically correct, or is there no place for this sort of banter in the terraces? As always, we at Goal.com welcome YOUR thoughts!!! Alan Dawson, Goal.com [ Some readers' responses can be read at:www.goal.com/en-india/news/1717/e....at-bad-or-do-th |
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 2, 2008 8:22:28 GMT
Meanwhile at Newcastle
Daily Mail
Anti-racism campaigners call for Police action on Newcastle fans over Mido 'bomb' chants
By Sportsmail Reporter
Anti-racism campaigners Kick It Out have called for stern action after Middlesbrough striker Mido was subjected to Islamophobic chants at the weekend.
Egypt international Mido was targeted by Newcastle fans as he warmed up in Saturday's goalless Tyne-Tees derby at the Riverside Stadium.
Mido suffered similar abuse during Newcastle's last visit to Boro a year ago but a Football Association investigation did not result in any banning orders due to difficulties in identifying culprits.
Kick it out: Anti-racism campaigners are calling for stern action over racial abuse subjected to Middlesbrough striker Mido against Newcastle at The Riverside
Both clubs were encouraged to take steps to avoid a repeat.
Kick it Out director Piara Powar believes the Football Association need to act strongly this time.
He said: 'This is the second consecutive season that we've seen Newcastle supporters directing Islamophobic abuse at Mido. This time both the FA and the police should act.
'It's time a message went out loud and clear to Newcastle fans that calling a Muslim a terrorist, a shoe bomber, or whatever else they think is funny this week, is against the law and can have serious implications for them personally and the club they support.'
The FA have also expressed their concern and hope the clubs will be able to find the individuals concerned.
An FA spokesman said: 'Our position on these matters always is that any individuals who are identified and found guilty of discriminatory chanting, we will be calling for them to be banned.
'The responsibility lies with the police and the clubs to identify individuals responsible. We'll be liaising with them to make sure that happens.'
Silencing the critics: Mido gestures to Newcastle fans after suffering more abuse last season
Cleveland Police have confirmed 14 arrests were made at the Barclays Premier League fixture, 11 of which were inside the stadium.
However, they have not said whether any were related to the incidences of offensive chanting.
Middlesbrough have not made an official statement but manager Gareth Southgate said after the game that while he wanted the perpetrators punished, he did not think the club as a whole should suffer.
'We have to rise above it. If people want to shout those things it's a reflection on them.
'There's a danger we go on a witch hunt. What do you do? Punish the club?' he said.
'It's a sensitive one and I understand the importance, but I don't want to put the pressure on an excellent club.'
A spokesman for Newcastle added: 'The club does not condone any sort of offensive chanting.'
HATCHET MAN/Mail: Mido abuse shows we still haven't won the race
The pathetic abuse of Middlesbrough's Mido proves English football has not solved its racism problem.
The anti-Arab chanting aimed at the striker on Saturday has been heard before and the FA seem to be almost powerless to stop it.
Singled out: Mido (right) was targeted against Newcastle
The game in England has come a long way on these sort of issues but while this sort of thing goes on, it is no better than any of the other European countries where we decry the treatment of some of our black players.
TELEGRAPH - FA urged to take action after racist taunts aimed at Middlesbrough's Mido
The Football Association have been called on to take action against Newcastle United over the racist abuse hurled at Middlesbrough striker Mido.
By Rob Stewart Last Updated: 9:58PM GMT 01 Dec 2008
Target of taunts: Middlesbrough's Mido, seen here celebrating a league goal, was subjected to racist terrace taunts from a section of Newcastle fans Photo: GETTY IMAGES
The Egyptian international was briefly targeted by a section of visiting supporters during Saturday's Tyne-Tees derby for the second consecutive season, prompting an FA investigation.
Piara Power, director of Let's Kick Racism Out of Football, told The Daily Telegraph: "The FA investigated last time this happened and there were no charges but this time I don't think they'll have any option but to bring charges against Newcastle, which is absolutely right.
"That's what we are pressing for. We would like the FA to charge Newcastle and then for the police to make sure they are doing everything they can by using CCTV footage and seeing what other reports they possess that are actionable.
"We need Cleveland Police to take this by the scruff of the neck because it's a criminal offence."
Power claimed that charging Newcastle with failing to control their supporters would avert a repeat of the taunts.
"A charge sends out a very strong message and mobilises those who might otherwise sit around not being too worried about it," Power said.
"We are working with Newcastle as well and we will be pressing home the need to step up and perhaps target some of the work they are doing and look at the issue of Islamophobia.
"One of the ways we have been able to change behaviour inside stadiums is through peer pressure. Somebody stands up, says something and other fans say 'shut up, you're not representative of the club and you'll get us into trouble'."
Power added: "The first time this happened and the Sol Campbell abuse at Portsmouth by Spurs fans, initially the police response was that we can't do anything.
"But subsequently Hampshire Police started looking at CCTV footage and they will uncover individuals and bring them to court and the same thing needs to happen here."
Meanwhile, Obafemi Martins has apologised for storming down the Riverside tunnel after being substituted by Joe Kinnear in the 0-0 draw at Middlesbrough.
"Like any other player, I am always most disappointed when I am substituted," the Nigerian said. "But I am sorry if what I did was a problem and, in hindsight, perhaps it was wrong for me to go into the dressing rooms and not go on the bench."
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 2, 2008 8:54:51 GMT
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Post by londonranger on Dec 2, 2008 15:18:56 GMT
What about lets kick it off the internet. Google itself is one of the most bestial.
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 4, 2008 18:07:26 GMT
Two arrested. Good. Hope (if they did it and are convicted) get suitable punished.
Independent - Two arrested over Mido race chantsBy Jim van Wijk, PA Thursday, 4 December 2008 Mido was subjected to abuse by a small section of Newcastle fans The Football Association have vowed to "take the strongest possible action" against anyone found guilty of Islamophobic or racist chanting against Middlesbrough striker Mido. The Egyptian striker was targeted by Newcastle fans as he warmed up in the Tees-Tyne derby at the Riverside Stadium last weekend, and has called on the game's governing body to take stern measures. Mido suffered similar abuse during Newcastle's last visit to Boro a year ago, but an FA investigation then did not result in any banning orders due to difficulties in identifying culprits. However, two men, aged 49 and 23, have been arrested and will appear before Teesside Magistrates Court on December 9 charged with racial chanting. A Middlesbrough spokesman said: "Middlesbrough FC has a very strong anti-racism stance. "The club adopts a zero-tolerance attitude towards racism and, working with the police, we will not hesitate to ban supporters identified as directing racial abuse against players or other fans, as we have in the past. "Middlesbrough Police have confirmed that two individuals were arrested at the game for racial chanting and have been given a court date." The FA earlier insisted that, with the help of both clubs, everything is being done to single out any guilty supporters and sanctions will be imposed where possible. "We condemn any racist or Islamophobic behaviour and are committed to working with our clubs and the police to stamp it out," a spokesman for the FA said. "We have an on-going investigation into the incidents on Saturday and are awaiting reports from Middlesbrough and Newcastle United. "As always, the priority is to identify the individuals involved and take the strongest possible action against them. "We fully support banning orders for anyone convicted of racist chanting." The incident has been condemned by the anti-racist 'Kick it Out' campaign, and Mido maintains "serious action" must now be taken, but feels nothing at all could happen. He told Egyptian television station Al Hayat: "They kept chanting disgusting words, racist words about Islam and unfortunately, this is the second time that the same fans have done this. "It happened again because after the first time the English FA did nothing. "I considered this as an invitation from the English FA to the Newcastle supporters to repeat such shameful acts. "The English FA said that they will be investigating the issue and will make use of the latest technology to stop such racist abuse of players, but I feel that nothing will happen. "I am asking the English FA to take serious action to stop such things. These chants are not directed at me as a person, but it is directed at Islam." Kick It Out director Piara Powar believes the authorities should be able to identify the culprits via closed-circuit television footage and also called on football supporters to help "self-police" any racist incidents on the terraces. He told PA Sport: "The police are now saying they are going to put in extra monitoring for the next game, but by then it will be too late. "What we need is for the police to go over the CCTV footage and do what they can, in similar way which they are in Hampshire concerning the recent incident with the Tottenham fans at Portsmouth. "The other thing is that it gets quite desperate when the player has to come out and complain about why nothing has been done. "The FA did not find enough to charge anyone the first time this happened, so now it puts pressure on their sanctioning process." Powar added: "The key change we do have in English football now is there is self-policing, peer pressure which supporters who understand the implications can put on fans who are involved in abuse. "We would urge Newcastle fans to start rooting out themselves the individuals who were involved." www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/two-arrested-over-mido-race-chants-1052073.html |
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 9, 2008 17:40:18 GMT
Those Portsmouth fans are in trouble.... Police release photos of 16 men suspected of racially abusing footballer Sol Campbell The photographs of 16 men suspected of racially abusing Portsmouth and England footballer Sol Campbell have been released by police investigating the incident. Previous1 of 2 ImagesNext Eight of the 16 people police would like to contact following indecent chanting directed at Portsmouth vs Spurs Photo: PA [Actual photos at www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3690234/Police-release-photos-of-16-men-suspected-of-racially-abusing-footballer-Sol-Campbell.htmlThe appeal by Hampshire Police follows abuse directed at the Portsmouth Football Club player during a game against Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday, Sept 28. The images show 16 people caught on camera by a police officer at the match at Fratton Park, Portsmouth. Superintendent Neil Sherrington said: "As part of our investigation into indecent chanting at Fratton Park, we have identified 16 people we would like to speak to. "Our inquiry is aimed at identifying and putting before the court those individuals who engaged in unacceptable behaviour at this public event. "Their abuse caused distress to some supporters and was targeted at an individual. "We want to send a clear message that abuse of this kind will not be tolerated and that we are taking robust action. "I'd urge anyone who recognises these people to contact us as soon as possible." Speaking after this season's match, Harry Redknapp, who has now left Portsmouth to become Tottenham manager, said: "Nobody likes being called filthy names and hearing other filthy abuse. "It's not right. What has that got to do with coming to a game? For a start there are kids there." An FA spokesman said they were waiting to see the outcome of the police investigation before deciding whether or not to take any action themselves. He added: "We are very supportive of the police investigation and we are working very closely with them." The offence of indecent or racist chanting at a designated football match under the Football Offences Act 1991 can be punished by a fine of up to £1,000 and can also lead to a football banning order.| www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3690234/Police-release-photos-of-16-men-suspected-of-racially-abusing-footballer-Sol-Campbell.html |
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Post by londonranger on Dec 9, 2008 18:24:45 GMT
Only action by the government can stop this. the Fa is much too weak.... Recently racist chanting by a German club against a black player caused the team to be fined 25000 pounds. The th same team was ordered to play the next game before an empty stadium. The german soccer federation is draconic on this issue and this was in a Bundesliga Game Schalke v not sure.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Dec 9, 2008 18:30:09 GMT
Hefty fines and banning orders will stop it happening in the ground just as it did with hooliganism.
It's up to the clubs and the police to apply the law.
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Post by londonranger on Dec 9, 2008 21:11:41 GMT
bundesliga referees have stopped games and announce over tannoy that if there is any more chanting, game will end and fines up to 50 thousand euros per club. Mnay more incidences of teams having to play to empty stadiums as punishment. the germans care enough to do something. The Uk think its just boys out having fun and dont really want to do too much.
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Post by cpr on Dec 10, 2008 9:09:38 GMT
Those Portsmouth fans are in trouble.... Exactly what I meant! (If I had the embarassed icon, I'd put it in.  ) Now of course, if QPR fans had been involved, and I'd posted the photos, I no doubt would have been subject to a torrent of abuse from board posters. (I know cos, when I posted the names of four - published in the newspaper) who were facing court re their actions in Ipswich, that's exactly what did happen. |
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 10, 2008 15:55:41 GMT
First of the 16 arrested  MAN ARRESTED OVER RACIST CHANTS
By Ben Mitchell and Sarah Gwynn, PA SportPolice today arrested one of 16 suspects who allegedly shouted racist and homophobic chants at a football match.Hampshire Police has released images of the men who are believed to have shouted the abuse at Portsmouth defender Sol Campbell during a game against Tottenham on Sunday September 28. The photos show the suspects caught on camera by a police officer at the match at Fratton Park, Portsmouth. A 28-year-old man from Ringwood, Hampshire, is being questioned on suspicion of indecent or racial chanting at a designated football match after attending a police station in Portsmouth. Superintendent Neil Sherrington said: "As part of our investigation into indecent chanting at Fratton Park, we have identified sixteen people we would like to speak to. "Our inquiry is aimed at identifying and putting before the court those individuals who engaged in unacceptable behaviour at this public event. "Their abuse caused distress to some supporters and was targeted at an individual. "We want to send a clear message that abuse of this kind will not be tolerated and that we are taking robust action. "I'd urge anyone who recognises these people to contact us as soon as possible." The offence of indecent or racist chanting at a designated football match under the Football Offences Act 1991 can be punished by a fine of up to £1,000 and can also lead to a football banning order. Anyone with information should contact Operation Decorum on 0845 0454545 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 Portsmouth have reiterated that there is "no place" for homophobia in football and have welcomed a police investigation to help stamp it out. Pompey's communications director, Gary Double, said: "I think anything which can stamp out this sort of abuse in football and in society in general is a good thing. "There is no place for it in football and that is the view of most people in the game and most fans. "The police involvement in this matter can have a positive effect. "Sol is co-operating with the police investigations and has given them his views on it." It is not the first time a footballer has been suffered homophobic abuse. Former Chelsea and Southampton defender Graeme Le Saux admitted that "the homophobic taunting and bullying left me close to walking away from football", and striker Justin Fashanu committed suicide in 1998 after eight years of abuse for revealing his homosexuality. Peter Tatchell, the human rights activist for OutRage!, has urged the FA to bring policies for dealing with homophobia in line with those of racism. "The abuse against Sol Campbell is totally unacceptable. Bigotry has no place in any sport," he said. "At all matches, stewards should be required to identify fans who shout homophobic abuse and the FA should secure the agreement of the police to arrest them in the same way that they arrest racist fans. "As well as this sort of action, education against homophobia is important in order to make the game welcoming and safe for gay players and spectators. "OutRage! wants the FA to secure the agreement of all clubs to feature anti-homophobic messages in their match programmes, on tickets and inside and outside stadiums." Tatchell applauded the police attempts to stamp out the abuse, adding: "The police action is a welcome move. I hope people will come forward and identify the culprits. "Let's hope this acts as a deterrent to stop other fans using similar homophobic abuse in the future."
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Post by cpr on Dec 10, 2008 17:32:33 GMT
Steer clear of Manningtree.......and editing my posts !!!!  |
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Post by dylanpresman on Dec 10, 2008 17:53:38 GMT
My instinct tells me that if they issued 2 or 3 orders forcing top teams to play games behind closed doors for racist or homophobic chants it would put an end to them over night.
Having said that, we all know how the FA would implement such a policy -- they would latch onto a minor incident at the smallest possible team they could find. They would fine that team--taking much needed resources aways from a desperately poor team (remember the 25,000 fine for the throwing of an apple core). Big team fans would know that they would never be affected, so nothing would ultimately change.
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Post by londonranger on Dec 10, 2008 19:20:55 GMT
Well said Dylan and behind that tells the real problem.
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 10, 2008 19:39:43 GMT
I imagine if it was QPR fans that were doing the chanting, they'd have their defenders!
Second Spurs fan arrested:
Tribal Football
Two Tottenham fans arrested over racist chanting
11.12.08 | Ian Ferris
Police have arrested two of 16 Tottenham fans they wanted to trace over indecent and homophobic chanting directed at Portsmouth's Sol Campbell, reports the BBC.
A 28-year-old man from Ringwood and a 36-year-old man from Wokingham, Berkshire, have been arrested.
Officers have asked the public to help them trace the remaining 14 men.
They were captured on film during the match and police said they have received "a steady stream of information and names" since the pictures were released.
Both men arrested are being held on suspicion of indecent or racial chanting at a designated football match, after attending a police station in Portsmouth.
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Post by scottjones on Dec 10, 2008 20:27:18 GMT
From what I heard the Campbell stuff was diabolical and, i'm glad these fans are being shopped. I think there's banter, albeit close to the mark, and damnright horrendous abuse. What I will say about the Mido chants - it doesnt happen to any other Egyptian player or indeed muslim player does it? NOT CONDONING IT But, the fact he's an a`hole of the biggest magnitude generally, may have something to do with that? Oh and nothing racist whatsoever but I condone anyone to abuse Ashley Cole  |
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Post by cpr on Dec 10, 2008 22:07:58 GMT
They've been singing that song since he went to Arsenal.
Why has it taken this long to do anything about it?
Cashley 'ole deserves dog abuse, end of.
No idea what was sung about Mido but I quite like him, His national manager knew how to sort him out!
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 11, 2008 1:06:37 GMT
 Guardian/Dave Middleton - FA and Boro react sharply after racist fan avoids banMiddlesbrough and the Football Association have condemned the leniency of a Teesside magistrate who failed to ban a Newcastle fan who pleaded guilty to racist chanting at the striker Mido. The angry reaction came on the day police arrested two of the 16 suspects who allegedly shouted racist and homophobic chants at the Portsmouth centre-back Sol Campbell during a match against Tottenham in September. Barry Norman Hutchinson, 49, pleaded guilty to racist or obscene chanting under the Football Offences Act 1991 during the Magpies' 0-0 derby draw at Middlesbrough on November 29. His 23-year-old son, Andrew Barry Hutchinson, denies the same charge. Hutchinson Sr was fined £270 with £45 costs, but escaped a banning order which would have prevented him attending games anywhere in the country. Middlesbrough and the FA expressed concern that their hard-line policies had not been supported. A Middlesbrough spokesman said: "We are disappointed that a banning order has not been issued. It makes it very difficult for football clubs to have a robust anti-racism policy without the support of the courts. Despite this setback, we will continue to be vigilant and supportive of the police in tackling all discriminatory and anti-social behaviour. The individual concerned will also be banned from the Riverside [Stadium]." An FA spokesman added: "The FA is disappointed that a ban was not imposed. It is important to send out a strong message that racist and discriminatory chanting is totally unacceptable, and that anyone found guilty will face serious consequences. We welcome Middlesbrough FC's commitment to ban the individual convicted in this case." A 28-year-old man from Ringwood, Hampshire, and a 36-year-old man from Wokingham were last night being questioned on suspicion of indecent or racial chanting at the September 28 match between Portsmouth and Tottenham. Police yesterday released pictures of 16 suspects caught on camera by a police officer at Fratton Park. Supt Neil Sherrington said: "As part of our investigation into indecent chanting at Fratton Park, we have identified 16 people we would like to speak to. "Our inquiry is aimed at identifying and putting before the court those individuals who engaged in unacceptable behaviour at this event. Their abuse caused distress to some supporters and was targeted at an individual. We want to send a message that [such] abuse will not be tolerated." www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/dec/11/premierleague-newcastleunitedTelegraph/Rob Stewart - FA regret Newcastle racist in Mido case not banned The Football Association expressed dismay on Wednesday night after a Newcastle United supporter who admitted hurling racist abuse at Egyptian striker Mido escaped a nationwide banning order. Officials at the game's governing body joined forces with the Middlesbrough player's club to give Teesside magistrates a thumbs-down after Barry Norman Hutchinson, 49, of Siver Lonnen, Fenham, Newcastle, pleaded guilty to an offence of racist or obscene chanting He was fined £270 with £45 costs, but escaped a banning order which would have prevented him attending games anywhere in the country following his actions during Newcastle's 0-0 draw at the Riverside Stadium on Nov 29. The FA and Middlesbrough – who along with Newcastle will ban Hutchinson from their ground – said they were unhappy with the punishment handed out and claimed the leniency undermined their anti-racist policies. An FA spokesman said: "The FA are disappointed that a football banning order was not imposed in this case. "It's important to send out a strong message that racist and discriminatory chanting is totally unacceptable, and that anyone found guilty will face serious consequences." Boro spokesman Dave Allan said: "We're disappointed that a banning order hasn't been issued in this case. It makes it very difficult for football clubs to have a robust anti-racism policy without the support of the courts. "Despite this setback, we will continue to be vigilant and supportive of the police in tackling all discriminatory and anti-social behaviour. The individual concerned will also be banned from the Riverside." Hutchinson will also be prohibited from attending matches at St James' Park. "Newcastle United will not tolerate any form of racist behaviour and will continue to work closely with the authorities and anti-racism organisations to rid sport and society of racism," the club said. "The club condemn any form of racist chanting and any individual found guilty of such an offence will be banned from St James' Park." A 23-year-old man denies a similar charge of racist or obscene chanting under the Football Offences Act 1991 and will be tried at a later date. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/3704234/FA-regret-Newcastle-racist-in-Mido-case-not-banned.html
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 11, 2008 11:32:18 GMT
Out on bail...
BBC - Two bailed over abusive chanting
Two men arrested over alleged indecent and racial chanting directed at Portsmouth footballer Sol Campbell have been released on bail.
Police issued an appeal to trace 16 Tottenham fans following abuse aimed at the former Arsenal and England defender during a game with Spurs in September.
A 28-year-old man from Ringwood, Hants, and a 36-year-old man from Wokingham, Berks, were bailed until 21 January.
Officers have asked for help tracing the remaining 14 men.
They were captured on film during the match at Fratton Park and police said they have received "a steady stream of information and names" since the pictures were released on Wednesday.
Both men were detained on suspicion of indecent or racial chanting at a designated football match, after attending a police station in Portsmouth.
The FA said it would ban for life any fans it could prove were involved.
Campbell joined Portsmouth in 2006.
Complaints from Portsmouth fans were made to Hampshire police, who initially said they could not take action because of the number of Tottenham fans involved.
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 11, 2008 19:57:28 GMT
Seven more to be questioned: Seven more suspects to be questioned over Campbell abuse (AFP) – Police investigating racist and homophobic chanting aimed at Portsmouth star Sol Campbell are to question seven further suspects. Hampshire Police released images of 16 Tottenham fans who are believed to have shouted the abuse at Campbell during a game against at Fratton Park on September 28. Now seven men have been identified and will be attending a police station in Hampshire to be questioned. Earlier Thursday, a 36-year-old man from Wokingham, Surrey, and a 28-year-old man from Ringwood, Hampshire, who were arrested on Thursday were bailed until January 21. A police spokesman said: "Officers have received a steady stream of information and names. "However, they are keen to stress that they would like to hear from anyone who recognises the remaining seven people." news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081211/sp_soccer_afp/fblengprportsmouthtottenhamcampbellabuse |
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 11, 2008 23:02:07 GMT
Spurs Supporters Trust Statement on the Publication of 16 Accused PhotosTottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust (THST)
'Police Action over indecent chanting' posted by THST on 11/12/2008
Supporters’ Trust view on police action over indecent chantingThe Tottenham Supporters’ Trust (‘THST’) notes the decision of Hampshire police to publish photos of 16 Tottenham supporters they wish to talk to about the chanting at the Portsmouth game in September. This has inevitably re-opened the issue in the media. The Football (Offences) Act 1991, under which any prosecutions would presumably be brought – although at this stage the police have not said if any of the 16 pictured could or would be prosecuted – outlaws “chanting of an indecent or racialist nature” at football matches. The Act defines “racialist” but does not define “indecent” and while the media have suggested some of the chants about Sol Campbell are racist and/or homophobic the police statement refers only to “indecent chanting”. Spurs fans’ have been multi-culturally diverse for many years and subjected to anti-semitic abuse themselves and the overt support for another of Portsmouth’s ex-Spurs at the same match, Jermain Defoe, indicates the majority of our supporters are not inherently racist.THST fully understands the outcry against some of the abuse directed at Sol Campbell, which has crossed the line of decency, and we would strongly urge Spurs fans to cease the singing of certain songs. It is clear from the police action that the authorities intend to pursue this and we do not want THFC and its supporters to be hit with sanctions from the FA. All our supporters should therefore cooperate with the Club in seeking to eradicate any form of indecent or offensive chanting, and instead concentrate our energies on supporting the team. THST also notes the action against Newcastle supporters who abused Mido which resulted in fines but no bans and would expect to see offensive chanting of all types, aimed at supporters as well as individual players on a regular basis, to also be targeted by the police and other authorities in as stringent a manner as Hampshire police are retrospectively dealing with the ‘Campbell case’. www.tottenhamtrust.com/viewnews.asp?id=401
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 12, 2008 19:57:12 GMT
Another 3 Suspects re Spurs
BBC - Sol Campbell abuse trio are found
Police want help from the public to trace these four men
A further three Tottenham football fans suspected of abusive chanting aimed at Portsmouth's Sol Campbell have been identified by police.
The men will attend a police station in Hampshire to be questioned by officers after being identified in CCTV footage.
Police issued an appeal to trace 16 Tottenham fans following abuse aimed at the former England defender during a game with Spurs in September.
Two men were arrested on Wednesday but later released on bail until January.
They were a 28-year-old man from Ringwood, Hampshire, and a 36-year-old man from Wokingham, Berkshire.
In all, 12 men have been identified.
Officers said they have received a steady stream of information and names.
But they were keen to identify the remaining four men.
They were captured on film during the match at Fratton Park on 28 September.
The FA said it would ban for life any fans involved.
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 15, 2008 17:00:43 GMT
3 more questioned. Up to 12 now
Police question another three over Campbell abuse
PORTSMOUTH, England (AP) -Another three of the 16 people alleged to have been caught on camera shouting racist and homophobic abuse at Portsmouth defender Sol Campbell have been questioned by police.
Two men were questioned last week and Hampshire police said Monday that a 20-year-old man and two 15-year-old boys had been interviewed and released on bail until Jan. 21.
Police have now identified a total of 12 people suspected of indecent or racial chanting at the Sept. 28 game between Pompey and Tottenham, a former club of Campbell. Five have been questioned and bailed.
The former England defender infuriated Spurs supporters by leaving for north London rival Arsenal seven years ago. Campbell has been at Portsmouth since leaving the Gunners in August 2006 and has been regularly jeered by Tottenham fans.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Dec 16, 2008 17:59:22 GMT
And in Scotland... Banning order over 'Famine song'news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7786133.stmWalls committed the offence during Rangers' away match to Kilmarnock A Rangers fan has been given two years probation and a football banning order for singing the 'Famine Song'. William Walls, 20, was found guilty of breach of the peace, aggravated by religious and racial prejudice, at Kilmarnock District Court. The offence was committed at Rangers' away match at Kilmarnock on 9 November. Rangers have asked fans to not to sing the song, which refers to events that killed an estimated one million people in Ireland in the 1840s. Speaking after sentence, Kilmarnock District Procurator Fiscal, Les Brown, said: "The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service takes all instances of racism and bigotry very seriously. "We will prosecute in court all offences which are aggravated by racial or religious prejudice. Where any singing, chanting or other behaviour is perceived as being racist or sectarian in nature, we will take positive action Asst Ch Con John Nielson Strathclyde Police "In this case we worked closely with both police officers who were present at Rugby Park and senior officers to ensure that the full extent and impact of the accused's conduct was put before the court. "The key witnesses in this case were stewards employed by Rangers Football Club who brought Mr Walls' conduct to the attention of the police. I would like to thank them for the fair and frank manner in which they gave their evidence." Assistant Chief Constable John Nielson, of Strathclyde Police, said: "We work closely with football clubs to eradicate any racist and/or sectarian behaviour in football - it will not be tolerated. "Where any singing, chanting or other behaviour is perceived as being racist or sectarian in nature, we will take positive action. "Over recent years, Strathclyde Police has made a significant number of arrests for sectarianism and racist behaviour at football matches and will continue to do so." They were warned!Rangers warned over 'Famine song'news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/7696302.stmSFA vows to tackle 'Famine song'news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/7693166.stm |
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 18, 2008 23:04:46 GMT
bbc: 4 MORE...
More abuse chant suspects found
The final four men being sought by Hampshire police
Four more men suspected of chanting abusive slurs at Portsmouth's Sol Campbell have been identified by Hampshire police.
Police now believe they have identified 12 of the 16 men whose images were released in a bid to track them down.
The men, believed to be Tottenham fans, are alleged to have hurled abuse at the former Arsenal and England defender during a game with Spurs in September.
Four men have been questioned and bailed until January.
They are an 18-year-old man from Essex, a 23-year-old man from north London, a 35-year-old man from Bournemouth and a 54-year-old man from East Sussex.
The men were questioned on suspicion of indecent or racial chanting at a designated football match.
A further eight men have already been arrested and bailed in connection with the incident on 28 September.
The suspects were caught on camera by a police officer at the match.
Police said they were now keen to identify the remaining four men.
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