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Post by QPR Report on Sept 4, 2009 21:45:30 GMT
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55 Years Ago Today, Clive Clark Made his QPR Debut...
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Post by QPR Report on Sept 6, 2009 7:52:43 GMT
Edit And 44 years ago today (September 6, 1969) - QPR were 1-0, 2-1 down and then scored twice in last ten minutes to beat Ian Greaves Promotion Team Huddersfield 4-2. (Seems like yesterday seeing that game - (Not my last game  ) Scorers for QPR: Marsh, Ian Morgan, Barry Bridges, Terry Venables penalty (Crowd 18,746) Kelly Clement Hunt Hazell Watson Sibley Venables Morgan Bridges Marsh Clarke Back in those days, Marsh was reportedly the highest paid player in the Division, at a hundred pounds a week  |
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Post by QPR Report on Sept 6, 2009 7:58:02 GMT
Edit/Bump... Fifty-Five years ago today...
QPR Winger, Clive Clark, made his QPR debut: September 6, 1958 against Bournemouth, away. QPR losing 0-2. (Also playing that day, Drinkwater and Ingham). Sold to WBA by Alec Stock, reportedly to prevent him from being kicked around by Third Division defenders. At WBA, he spent a decade (including scoring twice against QPR at Wembley). Clark briefly returned to QPR in 1969, in a part-exchange for the brilliant Alan Glover, before moving on to Preston. See also Clark Stats. www.neilbrown.newcastlefans.com/player/cliveclark.htm |
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Post by scarletpimple on Sept 6, 2009 8:42:37 GMT
And 40 years ago today (September 6, 1969) - QPR were 1-0, 2-1 down and then scored twice in last ten minutes to beat Ian Greaves Promotion Team Huddersfield 4-2. (Seems like yesterday seeing that game - (Not my last game ) Scorers for QPR: Marsh, Ian Morgan, Barry Bridges, Terry Venables penalty (Crowd 18,746) Kelly Clement Hunt Hazell Watson Sibley Venables Morgan Bridges Marsh Clarke Back in those days, Marsh was reportedly the highest paid player in the Division, at a hundred pounds a week I was Also at that game, we were a lucky to win that one, as huddersfield were the better team, but in those days we had strikers who could score goals.  |
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Post by ingham on Sept 6, 2009 12:48:01 GMT
Very mixed feelings watching Clive Clark running us ragged at Wembley in 1967. I remember calculating that if they kept on scoring at the rate they were doing, they'd beat us 8-0 or 12-0 or something.
Part of the QPR goal machine of the early 1960s. Remember my disappointment when we sold him, and my dad telling me we had to do it, the Club needed the money.
Coming out on top at Wembley against Clark was an indication of how far and how quickly Jim Gregory had transformed the Club.
One of two performances where I felt sorry for an opponent. I thought Clark was possibly the Man of the Match at Wembley (to an objective observer). The other was Chris Waddle who scored, was it 4 goals - in the famous 5-5, and left the pitch in tears.
They thought they'd lost, we thought we'd won, yet the draw was probably Newcastle's best result in London for 10 years ;D, so notoriously badly did they travel to the capital.
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Post by QPR Report on Sept 6, 2009 12:53:04 GMT
And then Clark returned (briefly) in 1969/70 as a part exchange/makeweight for Alan Glover who went off to WBA! (who at the time seemed like a future star)
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Post by cpr on Sept 6, 2009 13:08:20 GMT
A young Hazell was marking Clark that day, he was told in no uncertain terms during half time to lump him. This he duely did and Clark disappeared. The older players knew him well and how to stop him. The rest is history. ;D
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 4, 2010 6:41:44 GMT
Bumpy  And just passed: Eleven Years Ago: WARDLEY DEBUTS FOR QPR
(His one, bright, shiny Season)
QPR Official Site - September 2, 1999
[WARDLEY WORTH THE WAIT GERRY FRANCIS has revealed the unusual story of how he unearthed the raw talent of Stuart Wardley, who was plying his trade five divisions below the Nationwide Conference in the Essex Senior League with Saffron Walden Town FC. Gerry said: "A lot of credit goes to our scouting staff. We knew we had no money so it was my decision to scout the non-Leagues. "We've spent many hours watching a variety of games below the Conference in all sorts of weather. We found Jermaine Darlington, Ross Weare and Stuart and that's excellent. "In Stuart's case, we primarily bought him as a centre-half, but I just like the way he gets into the box from midfield. "It reminds me so much of Bryan Robson. I put Stuart in midfield in the reserves and he scored, so I felt it was time to put him into the first team at Forest. "He played ever so well there and nearly scored two or three times, especially when we were down to 10 men, and then he got two against Port Vale. "I think people will find it difficult to stop Stuart because he's a determined young man, he's strong, he gets across the front of people and he's a great header of the ball. "He's so enthusiastic - he's up and down the pitch and he can pass the ball well. "We first brought Stuart in last season to play in the reserves and it was at Cambridge. I think we'd been away somewhere and I was a bit tired and I thought 'I don't want to go over to Cambridge to watch this trialist'. "Then I thought 'I might not be able to see him again', because he was at such a low level below the Conference. "So anyway I went up to Cambridge and Stuart went in for a tackle in the first five minutes and he went down injured. "I thought 'Great! I've come all the way out here and he's off after five minutes.' Anyway, Stuart played the 90 minutes and I said to my scout Steve Burtenshaw 'He runs funny doesn't he?' "But Stuart had done very well and I decided to look at him again despite the fact that he ran strangely. "Then we discovered that he had actually fractured his ankle at Cambridge but played on for the full 90 minutes. He didn't play for his own club again for another six months. "We kept in touch and he came back in the summer, playing in a couple of friendlies where he did even better and of course we signed him." QPR Official Site - September 1, 1999 WARDLEY EXCLUSIVE STUART WARDLEY was the first Rangers player to mark his full home debut with two goals since Mark Kennedy notched a couple in the 3-2 win over Crewe on February 7 1998. However, as Kennedy was only on loan at Loftus Road, the last QPR registered player to score two on his home debut was Paul Wright against Crystal Palace on the opening day of the 1989/90 season. Wardley says:" It was a great night against Port Vale. Unbelievable! I couldn't have hoped for more. "I had a couple of good chances on Saturday at Nottingham Forest and didn't put them away, but the boss told me to just carry on getting into the box and I'd continue to get chances. So against Port Vale I got two chances and managed to score two goals. " On the first goal, it was a good move down the right and the ball was crossed to the far post. I just gambled on Rob Steiner heading it back. It came to me and I managed to get a toe on it and stick the ball in the back of the net. "Then, Jermaine Darlington went down the right and hit the far post. I had to generate some power and stick it back where it came from into the far corner. "After that, it was an exciting finish and I thought for a second that we might chuck it away. But the lads were strong. Gavin Peacock got us all together and got us tight and we saw the last few minutes out." QPR Port Vale MIKLOSKO MUSSELWHITE DARLINGTON WALSH BARACLOUGH BRAMMER ROSE GARDNER READY BENT MADDIX MINTON LANGLEY WIDDRINGTON WARDLEY TANKARD PEACOCK CARRAGHER GALLEN ROUGIER KIWOMYA NAYLOR Subs: Subs: MORROW OAKES SCULLY OYLE STEINER SMITH HARPER SNIJDERS ROWLAND Burns" |
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 4, 2010 6:52:33 GMT
Frank Sibley Would make a great Guest for an Interview- QPR True and True
I know Frank Sibley's not in good health and I don't know how he would do on a radio show. But Sibley would seem the PERFECT guest for Rootbeer - As our player; and our coach and Manager time and again...Been involved in so much QPR History
- Your Move Mr. Rootbeer (Of course if you are becoming involved with "that other site", then all bets are off!)
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Post by Lonegunmen on Sept 4, 2010 9:13:00 GMT
Again, Sibley on his own for the afternoon. Not with special friends/guests.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 4, 2011 7:29:42 GMT
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Post by Bushman on Sept 4, 2011 10:27:39 GMT
Frank Sibley. A genuine QPR man for so many years in so many roles.PFA Give Me Football On This Day...September 4, 1963 Frank Sibley, 15-year-old right winger for Queens Park Rangers, makes his debut and makes a goal as Rangers are beaten 3-1 by Aldershot. (And as noted in the other thread) 1996 Ray Wilkins walks away from managership of Queens Park Rangers, citing a desire to continue playing as well as an unhappiness at the dual role. Wilkins says, ‘This is the hardest situation I have ever had to deal with.’ He joins Wycombe Wanderers as a player 48 hours late www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/on-this-day-in-history-september-4 Frank Sibley 15 - years old.  |
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Post by bp on Sept 4, 2011 10:53:11 GMT
When Frank was 19 Bill Nicholson turned up at a game, he didn't watch and sat inside. He just came to say he was willing to break the transfer record at the time to buy him and luckily for us Jim Gregory said no. People quite rightly go on about how Manure turn out great young prospects but with how much going on in the background. It doesn't compare for a millisecond to the youngsters that came thru' our youth system in the 60's. There's probably a complete England side there and add to that a young boy who bashed his head on a goalpost and in doing so lost all his balance..... apparently!! Oh such happy days. |
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 4, 2012 6:55:13 GMT
Bump....
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Post by kerrins on Sept 4, 2012 8:38:49 GMT
Clive Clark a truly great will o the wisp left winger and he proved it by playing nearly 10 years in the top flight with WBA.
Its a shame we had to let him go. The nearest we will ever get to George Best playing for us and in my opinion he scored the greatest QPR Goal ever seen at Loftus Rd in that famous 9-2 win over Tranmere in Dec 1960...and boy for the first 45 mins didnt he frighten the life out of us in that 1967 league cup final!
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Post by Lonegunmen on Sept 4, 2012 8:43:09 GMT
What became of him later? Is he still alive?
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Post by kerrins on Sept 4, 2012 8:47:55 GMT
Andy according to Vic Gibbons the latest news was that Clive was not in good health and in a nursing home in the Scarborough area.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Sept 4, 2012 8:51:37 GMT
Kerrins, I' tried to get Vic on here, you two guys would have a field day going through Bushman's history area. Use your influence.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Sept 4, 2012 8:57:39 GMT
PS, note Frank Sibley's age when he made his debut. Gerry made his at 16. Now days they hold off till they 23. FFS
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Post by kerrins on Sept 4, 2012 9:23:22 GMT
Andy...Vic is not a QPR Message Board man these days and as far as I know has not been for the past two years. The Bushman/ Gramps nostalgia on here is right up my street! |
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Post by Bushman on Sept 4, 2012 10:08:37 GMT
Clive 'Chippy' Clark in 1959   Clive on his return to the club 1969 in pre-season training.  Sadly Clive Clark lives in a nursing home in Filey, where he receives around the clock care. |
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Post by kerrins on Sept 4, 2012 15:16:49 GMT
No doubt in my mind Clive Clark should have played for England. I reckon he was better than Douglas, Connelly, Bridges and others.
Perhaps his face did not fit with Walter Winterbottom and the FA "blazers" on the selection committee...and by the time Alf Ramsey came along with his "wingless wonders" set up it was all too late.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 4, 2012 15:27:15 GMT
Sadly I didn't see him play for QPR in those glory years. Just when he briefly returned to QPR in 1969, after our relegation when we got Clark +40,000 in exchange for 17 year old Alan Glover, who had played just 7 games. Clark was only with us for a few months, then on to Preston. (And Glover just sank without trace...A few years at WBA...Then Orient...Another example of a youngster sinking after a sale)
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Post by Bushman on Sept 4, 2012 17:29:48 GMT
No doubt in my mind Clive Clark should have played for England. I reckon he was better than Douglas, Connelly, Bridges and others. Perhaps his face did not fit with Walter Winterbottom and the FA "blazers" on the selection committee...and by the time Alf Ramsey came along with his "wingless wonders" set up it was all too late. At his peak he was superb. |
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Post by terryb on Sept 4, 2012 17:53:35 GMT
No doubt in my mind Clive Clark should have played for England. I reckon he was better than Douglas, Connelly, Bridges and others. Perhaps his face did not fit with Walter Winterbottom and the FA "blazers" on the selection committee...and by the time Alf Ramsey came along with his "wingless wonders" set up it was all too late. As my father was a Blackburn fan, I grew up being told that Brian Douglas was better than Matthews & Finney combined. I expect that older Rovers fans still regard him as their best ever player. However, I was told by an ex team mate of his that the rest of the Blackburn players detested him completely. Apart from the '69 season I only saw Clive Clark play for Albion, but he looked a lot better player than Connelly, Paine, Callaghan etc. To think that all those three were in the '66 World Cup squad but no place for Clark or Peter Thompson. The mind boggles! |
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 6, 2013 6:54:33 GMT
Bump another year....55 Years (Before my QPR time!)
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Post by ingham on Sept 9, 2013 9:48:22 GMT
Sad to hear Clive is in poor health.
Yes, and a wonderful player, and a key part of the 'goal machine' side of the early sixties. If we could have defended the way we swept the goals in - with the wide players contributing an extraordinary number - Lazarus and Clark like Ian Morgan later on - we would have gone up, instead of those two very disappointing near misses. It is notable, and usually overlooked, that the equally celebrated goalscoring side of 1967 was positively miserly at the back, something that made all the difference in the subsequent 1968 promotion campaign when we were understandably scoring fewer goals, but keeping a lot of clean sheets, enabling us to get the most out of Marsh in particular's ability to conjure up a goal in almost any game. Not a philosophy we associate with the Rs in those days, more the Revie or Clough and Taylor approach, but it may have been the key to sneaking promotion against far bigger and more established Clubs (like Villa).
Great pictures. The one of Clive in the 'late fifties' WHITE shirt (with 'blue trim' as they used to say) is sending kerrins into raptures, I'm sure.
Good to hear you talking about Vic, too, gentlemen, how is he? An acute observer and a veritable goldmine of information and all kinds of insight about the Rs, past and present.
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Post by kerrins on Sept 23, 2013 17:46:08 GMT
Ingham mate Vic is fine. I spoke to him about 2 months ago. We were supposed to meet up in London but sadly he had to pull out at the last moment. I dont think he is on any QPR message board anymore.
Clive Clark what a wonder winger. Since 1957 I have only seen one better at Rangers and that was Dave Thomas(but only just!) Obviously as a third Division club we could not hang on to such a big talent.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 23, 2013 18:06:08 GMT
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