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Post by QPR Report on Jun 21, 2009 11:24:52 GMT
Wow. What a great concept. And I get more unhappy at Briatore by the day. (No mention re Ainsworth)Vital Football Swansea
Sousa To Appoint Two Assistants & Scout Huw Jenkins has told News of the World that Paulo Sousa will be bringing in two assistants, one from his native Portugal and one from Spain.The Swansea City chairman also says that they have also hired a European scout.Sousa has travelled back home to talk things through with his family. He has verbally agreed to join us and is expected to return tomorrow and sign a 3-year deal. Jenkins said: 'Paulo's no clone of Roberto - but it was vital he had the same philosophies to maintain the good work. 'It was always our aim to continue with the club ethos after the last two seasons. 'He'll target rising players as well as develop us long-term.'Paulo will inherit an exciting squad which has been educated to play the game the right way already. 'We had a good feeling as soon as we spoke to him.
'He wanted the job and simply blew us away. We could see the passion he had to succeed and his vision for the future.'He speaks six different languages, has worked under and alongside some world renowned coaches. 'After his playing career he's certainly not coming here for the money - he's here to better himself and Swansea City.' 'he'll be given a free hand to do what he wants and will have our backing. He'll bring in two young assistants with him, one from Spain, and we've also hired a European scout on his saying.' www.swansea.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=158403
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Post by QPR Report on Jun 22, 2009 7:40:39 GMT
This is South Wales Physio joins Liberty exodus as boss puts plans in place SWANSEA City have suffered another blow after physio Richie Evans joined the exodus to Wigan Athletic. But new boss Paulo Sousa, who will be unveiled at the Liberty Stadium tomorrow, has already got three new members of staff in place.
Sousa will name a fellow Portuguese, a Spaniard and an Australian in his backroom team.
And the former Queens Park Rangers boss is also expected to add a physio and a goalkeeping coach ahead of the new Championship season.Evans's departure is a disappointment, for Swansea's long-serving physio is highly regarded professionally and is a popular figure at the Liberty. Swansea had initially thought Evans, who has worked under six managers since joining the club in 1999, would stay on and be part of the Sousa era. But after outgoing boss Roberto Martinez declared his interest in adding Evans to his staff at the JJB Stadium, he is to follow the likes of Graeme Jones and Kevin Reeves north. www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/sport/Physio-joins-Liberty-exodus-boss-puts-plans-place/article-1094867-detail/article.html
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Post by QPR Report on Jun 22, 2009 10:13:48 GMT
BBC
Swansea set for Sousa unveiling Paulo Sousa spent five difficult months at Queens Park Rangers Paulo Sousa is expected to be unveiled as Swansea City's new boss on Tuesday.
The two-time Champions League winner will fly back to Wales on Monday after discussing the situation with his family in his native Portugal.
And the former Queens Park Rangers manager is expected to sign a three-year deal to become Roberto Martinez's successor at the Liberty Stadium.
Sousa is set to name a fellow Portuguese, a Spaniard and an Australian in his backroom team.
The 38-year-old is set to become Swansea's 12th manager in 14 years after verbally accepting the job last Thursday and is set to be presented to the media at a press conference at 1300 BST.
The 51-times capped Portugal international has been out of work since April after his controversial departure from QPR following just five months and 26 games in charge at Loftus Road.
The midfielder, who graduated through the Benfica academy, played for some of the biggest clubs in Europe including Sporting Lisbon, Juventus, Borussia Dortmund, Inter Milan and Parma.
606: DEBATE Well that was a surprise to be honest, didn't even know he was in the frame until yesterday
Jägermeister Jack He was in the Juventus team that beat Dutch giants Ajax on penalties in Rome in 1996 before moving to Germany and winning the trophy with Borussia Dortmund who beat his old club Juventus in Munich.
Sousa's coaching break came on the international stage as he took of Portugal's under-15 team before being appointed assistant to Portugal's first-team coach Carlos Queiroz in 2008.
Sousa's first managerial job was as boss of Championship rivals Queens Park Rangers but parted company when the club claimed he divulged sensitive information.
He beat off competition from former Tottenham assistant manager Gus Poyet, former Wales captain and Sheffield United player coach Gary Speed and ex-Watford boss Aidy Boothroyd.
Sousa is bringing in his own backroom team after Martinez took all of his managerial staff with him to Wigan Athletic.
Swans physio Richie Evans has joined Martinez at the Premier League club, ending a ten-year stay at Swansea, and follows assistant Graeme Jones, chief scout Kevin Reeves, goalkeeping coach Inaki Bergara and masseur Oscar Brau to the JJB Stadium.
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Post by funky on Jun 22, 2009 10:19:31 GMT
I hope Sousa does well have nothing against him but I am gettinga bit fed up with every article on Paulo being highlighted on message boards.
Although Sousa should have had longer the football was crap for long periods, I'm sorry but it was that was the reality
He shuffled his team to many times, did not know the best formation refused to play the clubs leading striker and under super Paulo I lost count of the amount of times we were ultra cautious.
Games that stick out for me were Southampton away and Norwich at home.
Jim Magilton is our new manager lets move on.
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Post by QPR Report on Jun 22, 2009 10:30:42 GMT
I'd remind you, I still haven't gotten over the Fire Alarm, Holloway's Departure, or "The coup" Eventually, sure move on. But I don't think that time has come yet. Both because of the manner of his depature; and beyond. But obviously everyone has their own view. And given all the threads on this board, don't think an inordinate focus is devoted to Sousa.
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Post by funky on Jun 22, 2009 10:38:17 GMT
Does it matter the manner of his departure?
The fact is Report on the pitch it was pretty poor, if you had been to some of the matches you would not of enjoyed them.
Are you honestly that surprised that Briatore made a quick decision, look at his track record to be honest I was more upset with Iain Dowies departure he left us in quite a good league position.
If the focus on your posts as ever is to highlight that the club acted poorly with relation to his contract then that could be debated.
In my opinion he was treated no worse than previous managers.
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Post by ingham on Jun 22, 2009 10:42:47 GMT
to tell the truth, I can't tell one manager from the next. If we hadn't known, would anyone have realised that something had changed.
You may be tempted to say 'yes', but each manager chops and changes so much, so often, and to so little effect, how would you know when new signings, tactical changes, or fluctuations in our results signified a different person 'at the helm'.
Sorry, what I am saying? At the helm? The Marie Celeste has no-one at the helm.
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Post by writtler on Jun 22, 2009 10:45:19 GMT
The football was crap for years under Holloway, players constantly out of position etc etc but we peservered and eventually got promoted.
In my opinion Sousa was treated appallingly.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jun 22, 2009 10:53:22 GMT
Does it matter the manner of his departure? The fact is Report on the pitch it was pretty poor, if you had been to some of the matches you would not of enjoyed them. Are you honestly that surprised that Briatore made a quick decision, look at his track record to be honest I was more upset with Iain Dowies departure he left us in quite a good league position. If the focus on your posts as ever is to highlight that the club acted poorly with relation to his contract then that could be debated. I n my opinion he was treated no worse than previous managers.That is your opinion Funky but I'm not sure it is shared by many R's. Also it would seem that the general consensus in the football world do not share your view, if you look at all the managers that have since turned us down it would seem that all of our preferred choices would rather work elsewhere and purely down to Flav's actions.
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Post by QPR Report on Jun 22, 2009 12:02:16 GMT
I think Funky will be on firmer ground (in my opinion) if - After PALADINI LEAVES - we keep posting about every one of his actions, post QPR.
Now that doesn't mean Funky's necessarily wrong about Sousa at QPR. I obviously can't judge. But there are an awful lot of quotes about what a great coach he was. There are a lot of circumstances to consider. And the bottom line re the Sousa axe: It's discredited the QPR "product"/"project" - hurting our chances to bring in a great manage.
And yes we all hope re Magilton. But that's because he is our manager. Not because he's someone we wanted as our manager.
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Post by scarletpimple on Jun 22, 2009 12:15:47 GMT
I know that a few games under Sousa were a tad boring, but he had most of the clubs creative players injured, and we found it difficult to score goals, but he needed to get results and not lose too many games, so he went safety first, for this i excepted the position he was in and hoped that he would have been given the summer to improve the team.
So next season he would have had the choice of all returning injured players plus one or two new ones, then to see him given next season for an assoult on the championship.
Very very dissapointed he wasn't given this opportunity.
Also angry with the verble assaults on him from some posters on other m/b's as they clearly lacked a football nous.
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Post by funky on Jun 22, 2009 15:40:29 GMT
We found it difficult to score goals because he played with one upfront fell out with Blackstock and sent him out to Forest.
I cant see why so many people look back at the Sousa games with such fond memories by and large the football bored me to tears.
With relation to Ian Holloway he did in my opinion the job that was required, rebuilt the club made some good signings on a vastly different wage and transfer structure.
Some football was bad but I think that was a trait of the third division by and large it's hoof it football.
Towards the end things got quite bad though and I think losing Jacket was a big loss to Olly.
Not all of the football was crap though, some of the games were the best atmosphere and football I have seen in years for that I thank Ian.
Olly's win ratio was better than most people gave him credit for.
As for your comments regarding Paladini Report as I have said many times I like the guy and you know that I'm not going to debate with you the merits of a Sporting Director again as we will just go round in circles.
The job alone he did bringing the investors to the table was fantastic.
People often go on about him as Sporting Director but I think his official club title is still Chairman of the football club.
It's a shame you will never get to meet with Gianni having been one of his biggest critics over the years he has an incredible passion for the football club and imo I'm delighted that Flavio Briatore and the rest of the board see what an asset he is to the club.
But if GP were to leave in the morning, so be it I'd still follow the lads home and away as I have done for many years, after all it's the football thats the drug we are all additced to .
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Post by QPR Report on Jun 22, 2009 16:12:45 GMT
Actually my Paladini reference was not intended to elicit a defense of Paladini - or an attack/critqiue on Paladini
It was somewhat different: That if Paladini left, if we kept posting about Paladini - that would be silly. Just as continuing to focus inordinately on all the things Paladini did in five years here, is no longer too relevant.
But that's not the same as posting re Sousa. Especially, since in Sousa's case, it would be over whether QPR had missed out on something special (or not), as the case may be
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jun 22, 2009 16:28:34 GMT
We found it difficult to score goals because he played with one upfront fell out with Blackstock and sent him out to Forest. I cant see why so many people look back at the Sousa games with such fond memories by and large the football bored me to tears. With relation to Ian Holloway he did in my opinion the job that was required, rebuilt the club made some good signings on a vastly different wage and transfer structure. Some football was bad but I think that was a trait of the third division by and large it's hoof it football. Towards the end things got quite bad though and I think losing Jacket was a big loss to Olly. Not all of the football was crap though, some of the games were the best atmosphere and football I have seen in years for that I thank Ian. Olly's win ratio was better than most people gave him credit for. As for your comments regarding Paladini Report as I have said many times I like the guy and you know that I'm not going to debate with you the merits of a Sporting Director again as we will just go round in circles. The job alone he did bringing the investors to the table was fantastic. People often go on about him as Sporting Director but I think his official club title is still Chairman of the football club. It's a shame you will never get to meet with Gianni having been one of his biggest critics over the years he has an incredible passion for the football club and imo I'm delighted that Flavio Briatore and the rest of the board see what an asset he is to the club. But if GP were to leave in the morning, so be it I'd still follow the lads home and away as I have done for many years, after all it's the football thats the drug we are all additced to . Not true Dexter and Heidy after him had plenty of chances which they failed to take. As for Sousa sending Dex off to Forest well.... You say the football was crap but I would argue that we had one of the best defences in the league and tried to play out from the back and our strikers were the problem. You say you went to the games so like myself you must have seen HH miss at least half a dozen crucial sitters or was that Sousa's fault as well? Cook's supply was also a problem and one we now know was down to him playing injured.
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Post by funky on Jun 22, 2009 16:35:54 GMT
The defence was strong all season.
The signings of Cerny Gorks and Rammage all added to the quality.
Probably with a bit of geling together by Dowie to start with.
Sousa chopped and changed his team on far to many occasions, Alberti for example scored twice at Forest then was dropped the next game.
As for the wingers well if you only have one player to hit in the middle it makes it a bit harder.
One upfront at home utter shite.
The football was way to negative, it bored the arse off me and quite a few fans I know were the same.
That said the players need to shoulder some of the blame and your quite right HH did not do himself much justice, was it Sousa fault ? Probably not but the manager does tend to be the one responsible for results Sousa carried the can and is now no longer with us.
Might be a mistake might not lets wait and see.
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Post by QPR Report on Jun 22, 2009 16:39:39 GMT
The additional problem of course is that even IF Sousa was the wrong man for the job. The amount of time we gave him; and the manner in which he was "let go" - after the other depatures - hurt the club.
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Post by funky on Jun 22, 2009 16:42:10 GMT
Thast true Report and for sure it had a bearing on recruitment.
Which is why Magilton has to work.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jun 22, 2009 16:48:59 GMT
Cerny and Gorkss were very good signings and I don't dislike Ramage but he is an average player.
As for only having one player to hit that's nonsense unless you are playing kick and run percentage football. The wingers job is to put the ball into a space for the striker to attack and Cook didn't do the job and playing injured I'm not surprised.
As for Sousa carrying the can for results, I thought he was sacked for something said on Pete's message board?
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Post by QPR Report on Jun 23, 2009 0:18:53 GMT
And here he comes News Wales Sousa flies in to join Swans 22/6/2009 Paulo Sousa was flying back from Portugal today and is expected to be announced as manager of Swansea City tomorrow - along with his own backroom staff. The 38-year-old, who was assistant coach of the Portuguese national team, played 51 times for his country and had spells with Benfica, Sporting Lisbon, Juventus, Inter Milan, Parma and Borussia Dortmund. One of the most celebrated and highly-regarded Portuguese footballers in the modern game, he won the Champions League twice as a player, first with Juventus in 1996 and then Dortmund the following year. Last season he managed Queens Park Rangers but was sacked after 26 games, winning seven times. Swans confirmed today that long-serving physio Richie Evans has left the club after ten years to join manager Roberto Martinez at Premiership Wigan. He joins former Swans backroom staff Graeme Jones, Kevin Reeves, Inaki Bergara and Oscar Brau at Wigan. Swans chairman Huw Jenkins said, "While we are sorry to see him go, his commitment and service to this club over the last 10 years has been first class. "He feels he needs a change after a decade with the club and I have thanked him personally for what he has done for us over the years.'' Evans, whose late father Brian also played for the club, has worked under six different managers since joining the Swans back in 1999. As well as the physio duties, Evans also carried out the conditioning and fitness work under Martinez www.newswales.co.uk/?section=Sport&F=1&id=16985
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Post by funky on Jun 23, 2009 9:41:38 GMT
But if the defenders have only got one player to pick up it puts more pressure on the winger.
Time and time again Routledge had to beat two players to get the ball into the box.
Thats of course when Wayne was picked yet another Sousa master plan when he dropped him for the Bristol City home game.
I had nothing against Sousa but I really do think he struggled to get to grips with the Championship and was a very defence minded coach.
We now have Jim Magilton who in contrast brings with him a wealth of Championship experience and a no nonsense approach lets hops he does well.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jun 23, 2009 9:50:29 GMT
Funky, You have a very different view on the game to myself and that's probably why we have such opposing views on Sousa.
We all hope Jim does well and this time I hope your support for the man in charge lasts longer than the dozen or so games you gave Dowie and Sousa after spouting similar hollow 'get behind the team' posts.
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Post by funky on Jun 23, 2009 10:20:39 GMT
Well I get behind the team no matter what rarely boo the team and when I'm in the U.K am at every Saturday home and away game.
As for Sousa glad he has gone , never called for Dowie to go to be honest and was shocked as anyone when Flavio sacked him.
If you want to go even further back than that I was actually one of the very few that thought we had made a mistake getting rid of Gregory so soon.
But there you have it, football is all about opinions and as ever I went down to HQ last Saturday and renewed my season ticket.
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Post by QPR Report on Jun 23, 2009 10:49:31 GMT
Re Gregory: I didn't want him.But he grew on me. And I agree: Would have kept him. Given him the money we seem to have wasted
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