John Gorman and Stan Bowles

Sousa's number 2 was also Portuguese

I remember Gorman as a Carlisle fullback (And he was in the same Carlisle team as..... Stan Bowles) -


" Bowles, who made his debut for Carlisle, alongside John Gorman,Stan Ternent and Chris Balderstone, in the 2-1 win against Oxford United at Brunton Park on October 30, 1971..."
qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/12/stan-bowles-turns-sixtybrian-bedford.html

Cue others to pick up on this

Theoretically should both be in this photo!



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From last year:

The Big Interview f

The Betfair Big Interview: John Gorman
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Okay it was an excuse for a day's sunshine - but Betfair couldn't resist the offer to visit former England assistant boss John Gorman in Jerez for an exclusive chat about his new adventure, his thoughts on his old clubs and his new career as an author.


John, you've teamed up with Glenn Hoddle again but this looks like nice work if you can get it!

Yes, I'm really excited by what we're doing. You can see I'm talking to you now, sitting with Graham Rix here in 27 degrees with the sun shining and waiting to go training this afternoon. We're based at the Montecastillo resort not far from Cadiz and there's all the facilities you could ask for - a couple of perfect training pitches, a gym, good living conditions, and most of all the weather so we can train a couple of times a day.

What's the idea of the Academy?

It's something Glenn has talked about for years. If I'm honest right back to when we worked together at Swindon. I know it hurt him on his first day as a manager having to let a load of kids go, and he always felt that between the ages of 18 and 20 a lot of good young players were rejected who simply needed more time. Our aim is to take some of those who have been let go by English clubs and work intensively on their skills to give them a second chance.

Is that why Glenn's turned down management jobs, then?

Yes, he's been really determined to do this, and it's taken a lot of work. We were starting to think we might not be able to make it happen but it has. We're back out here now, we've got 30 young players and we are trying to work with them on all sorts of individual things. You look at all of them and wonder: 'Why have they been let go?'

What made you so keen to join up?

In my career my biggest attribute has been my coaching, and helping players develop. I try to explain that to people. I took more pride from that than winning matches, if I'm honest. At Swindon I knew we weren't going to win many matches when we had a season in the Premier League but there were players like John Moncur and Kevin Horlock and I think they improved their careers. People say: 'You didn't win many medals' but those are my medals, people like Roger Johnson at Cardiff who started at Wycombe with me and people say he's worth £4million now.

So it's John Gorman, coach, and now author too. You've just had your autobiography published.

I've been trying to write it for 15 years or more. I was at Orient when I first started writing down my life story, then suddenly went to Bristol, then joined up with Glenn at Swindon, then Chelsea and England so it never got finished because there was always another chapter happening! Then Kevin Brennan my ghost writer and I struggled to find a publisher because everybody wanted us to dish some dirt and I wasn't prepared to do that! I was just beginning to think it would never happen when I was introduced to the Green Umbrella company who published Ian Holloway's book and it has gone from there. My experience at Wycombe when I had to deal with the deaths of both a young player Mark Philo and then my wife soon afterwards added a human twist to the tale that they thought people would be interested in

That must have made it difficult to write?

The first chapters deal with that time at Wycombe, and are really emotional and capture exactly what happened and how it affected me. I should maybe have given up the job and I didn't, and it was very personal and very emotional because it brought back all the bad memories.

Was it helpful too?

It was, actually. The hardest part has been for my family. My daughter's not even read it yet. My son was great about it, but my daughter took it . . . well there's a lot of stuff in about the family and so on. For me, to go through it all helped me find a wee bit of comfort, though. I really felt I'd accomplished something when I finished it. There's some good moments too. When I look back I've had a very lucky career. It's just everybody has a story to tell but mine became a wee bit different because of what happened at the end.

Do you still keep in touch with what's happening at Tottenham? What do you think of their start to the season?

Glenn and I were talking about it the other day. We know what happened to us when results dipped, and I wouldn't' want it to happen to anybody, but sometimes the fans run out of patience and you do worry for Juande Ramos. I think to be fair to the new manager he needs a bit of time. So did we, come to that! Once the new players get their act together things will change for the better.

Being sacked by Spurs is still a sore point then?

Not as much maybe, I've accepted it now, but I still think we didn't have enough time to be honest. When you think back we were ninth or tenth in the League, so it wasn't disastrous, was it? Everybody wants success and they want it instantly. Even though they thought so much of Glenn they wanted a change. Did it do any good? Look how many changes there have been since.

Your last club Southampton are having a hard time too.

I knew that was coming when I left, in all honesty. They got rid of people in the back room who had been there 20 odd years. In my opinion there were too many changes at once. They treated me well so I've no grudges or anything, but I think they have some problems. I like to see young players given their chance but I think they need to watch themselves and have a bit of experience as well.

You were a bit of an honorary Englishman while you were Glenn's assistant as national manager. Are you back to being completely Scottish now?

Me? I've always been completely Scottish! I was a professional - I was given such an opportunity to coach at that level. When I look back it was one of the best jobs ever because it was just so enjoyable. I was still Scottish. I look now at Fabio Capello and all his team around him. What country you are from doesn't make a difference. When you are a professional you just get on with it.

It must amuse you to see the foreigners who have been involved with England?

I know, it does. Somehow being Scottish was always seen as being that bit worse for some reason! I was treated well if I'm honest. I think everybody saw I did a half decent job too. I'm quite proud that if you speak to any of the players who were in the England squad at that time they respected me. I've still got them all as my friends now. Alan Shearer, Rob Lee - Rob came and played for me at Wycombe - and Les and Ted. Tony Adams I worked with for a while too.

Who was the best player you ever worked with?

That's a hard one. I've been lucky in my career. I wrote in my book about Jimmy Johnstone at Celtic, but then at every club I've been there have been some fantastic players. At Carlisle there was Chris Balderstone and Stan Bowles, at Tottenham Glenn, Ossie, Ricardo Villa to name a few - Glenn was one of the best - in America Rodney Marsh. Just so many. Have I been lucky or what? I just hope we'll find another one of that quality out of the lads we've got here now. This thing is an ongoing project, that's what's great about it. We've got some good ones to start and there might be one or two real gems, but I think once this grows and people see what we are trying to do there will be even better players coming to us.

Thanks for your time and we've a free £50 bet to support your favourite charity.

All the proceeds of my book are going to Sebastian's Action Trust which supports kids who suffer from Cancer and their families. I think after last night's win at Newcastle the tide might turn for Tottenham, but I'm not quite brave enough to back them to win at Fratton Park on Sunday so I'll just lay Portsmouth at 2.7.

25 September 2008 / About Ralph Ellis
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And this from Wycombe's Official Site

GORMAN SET FOR BLUES REUNION
Posted on: Mon 15 Jun 2009

By Ben Campbell
Former Wanderers boss John Gorman will make a welcome return to Adams Park next month, after he was appointed as QPR's assistant manager.

Gorman has followed ex-Ipswich Town boss Jim Magilton to Loftus Road and he will be reunited with the Wanderers faithful on Tuesday 28th July when the Blues play QPR in a pre-season friendly - click here for ticket information.

The former Spurs team mate of current chief Peter Taylor took the reins at Adams Park in late 2004 when he replaced Tony Adams.

And despite taking over with the club in a lowly position, Gorman guided the Blues to a 10th placed finish in his first season and laid the foundations for the following campaign.

A 21-game unbeaten run at the beginning of the 2005/06 season saw the Wanderers rise to the top of League Two, but following the loss of his wife Myra to Cancer and the death of Mark Philo, John took a temporary leave of absence and form understandably worsened.

John's permanent departure was announced on 26th May 2006 and despite Gorman no longer occupying the Adams Park hot seat, fans will forever remember the great job and brand of football he adopted in Buckinghamshire.

To read more about John's story, get your hands on a copy of his book 'Gory Tales' from the club shop in Eden or by clicking here. www.wwfcclubshop.co.uk/
www.wwfcclubshop.co.uk/product.php/159/1/limited_edition_john_gorman__gory_tales_/db6c8151c0ae30c4467bba08a441b7d5

"John Gorman's Story is about a football man, but it is also much more than that. After a life in the game John thought he had seen and done it all. He'd played, coached and managed at the top and experienced the harsh realities of survival at the lower end of the scale.

John reveals the kind of pressures and expectations that come with helping to manage a big club like Spurs, and is able to give a behind-the-scenes insight into the contrast of life at a big name outfit like Tottenham, compared to jobs as manager of Wycombe, Northampton and previous experiences with Swindon Town.

Re-visit John's successful life and career by purchasing a limited edition copy from the man himself. "


www.wycombewanderers.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10430~1688544,00.html

United fan Hughie Boyes was at the game and had this to say - "Can't remember much about the match, too long ago. It was a warm summer night, an unreal atmosphere, something new, as was the reaction from the Italian players as their bus entered the car park to see eight Carlisle fans, myself included, sitting backs to the wall outside the South Paddock Turnstiles, eating fish and chips out of newspaper. The Roma players all had film star looks, their wives/girlfriends looked like models. Massive kit bags, a manager who looked like a middle aged Playboy.
The Carlisle players arrive, good cars, smart casual clothes, then a Transit van pulls up, out jumps Stan Bowles, scruffy tee shirt, dirty jeans and his kit in a carrier bag! Never to be forgotten."

1] Flavio managed Roma??

2] Typical of Stan!!