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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 9:48:55 GMT
Dave McIntyre/West London Sport www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/hughes-fights-on-at6-qpr-after-promising13-changesHughes fights on and is promising changeUnder-fire boss Mark Hughes arrived at QPR’s training ground this morning with the club insisting it was ‘business as usual’ despite speculation over his future. Hughes did not take yesterday’s session at Harlington, where chief executive Philip Beard spent much of the day. That is not unusual – Beard is there regularly and Monday’s training is usually a warm-down session which Hughes does not attend – but it prompted reports of a lengthy meeting between the pair and suggestions the manager was being fired. Hughes has made it clear he will not resign and believes he will be given more time by the club’s owners, while his agent Kia Koorabchian last night also denied rumours the Welshman had been dismissed. Hughes saw Beard on Monday. Rangers’ board are due to hold talks in the next 48 hours, when Hughes’ future should become clearer. Tony Fernandes, a friend of Hughes and the man who brought him to Loftus Road 11 months ago, is keen for him to stay. But the chairman must convince other major shareholders the former Manchester United forward should remain in the job – at least for the time being. Disgruntled fans want Hughes out, with Harry Redknapp touted as a replacement. Redknapp, a friend of ex-QPR chairman Gianni Paladini, has been out of management since leaving Tottenham in June and is keen to return to the Premier League. Hughes, whose team are bottom of the table and without a league win this season, has indicated there will be significant changes if he remains at the club. Previously placid towards his under-performing players, he read the riot act in the dressing room following Saturday’s humiliating 3-1 defeat at home to fellow strugglers Southampton. There is support for him among players despite misgivings about some of his signings. Stalwarts like Jamie Mackie and Shaun Derry are likely to be asked to play an important role in the coming weeks should Hughes cling on. The return of Stephane Mbia is also seen as important as it would enable Hughes to permanently replace Anton Ferdinand at the heart of his leaky defence – something he has been looking to do for some time. Ferdinand was increasingly out of favour prior to Mbia’s three-match suspension for a red card in the recent defeat at Arsenal.
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Post by sharky on Nov 20, 2012 9:53:35 GMT
G*d help us, because it appears that the powers that be in W12 won't. Sparky OUT NOW!!
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Post by cpr on Nov 20, 2012 10:19:09 GMT
Hughes Hughes Bloody Hughes.... I've got a brilliant idea, I'm going to start a Hughes thread.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 10:21:08 GMT
Hughes Hughes Bloody Hughes.... I've got a brilliant idea, I'm going to start a Hughes thread. well, i'm waiting
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Post by Jon Doeman on Nov 20, 2012 10:54:51 GMT
Be amazed if he's still manager for the next home game( unless they have accepted the drop).
It'll kick right off , if we don't beat Villa.
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Post by harlowranger on Nov 20, 2012 12:02:31 GMT
Be amazed if he's there after the weekend if we let in more than 5 ?
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Post by birchambluerinse on Nov 20, 2012 12:24:51 GMT
CPR ;D thats funny... Look what can we do, nuffin really, so when Hughes & backers go to Old Trafford he is going to make even more a fool of himself cause we are going to lose, heavily, probably..!! and i imagine that he will never be employed by a decent club as a manager again.. The only thing i can think of for the delay in execution is that they are in the background sounding out a replacement for him.. If you think the fans will be well happy when he is replaced, it will do wonders for the players. I think we could get out of this situation if that change is made.. there are plenty of points still left to play for, we have the quality, just worry about our striker position..
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Post by bowranger on Nov 20, 2012 12:38:39 GMT
CPR ;D thats funny... Look what can we do, nuffin really, so when Hughes & backers go to Old Trafford he is going to make even more a fool of himself cause we are going to lose, heavily, probably..!! and i imagine that he will never be employed by a decent club as a manager again.. The only thing i can think of for the delay in execution is that they are in the background sounding out a replacement for him.. If you think the fans will be well happy when he is replaced, it will do wonders for the players. I think we could get out of this situation if that change is made.. there are plenty of points still left to play for, we have the quality, just worry about our striker position.. It's a crap state of affairs though, isn't it? I can understand if tactically things don't work (in many cases, very true) but it does not account for the performance levels. Players can play worse when they don't like the manager, sure, but it does not give us a logical or justifiable reason for them not giving 100%. I've lost faith in Hughes' ability to turn it round but I'm not full of faith that someone else can necessarily motivate a large chunk of the squad either. Changing the manager doesn't replace basic football professionalism unfortunately.
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Post by birchambluerinse on Nov 20, 2012 13:14:11 GMT
..the way i see it is this, if players are not putting in a shift, then they need to be shipped off, i know it will come at a price (just like Hughes) but it has to happen, get players in that are motivated. i would not have a problem playing Hill, Mackie, Faurlin and Derry regularly, these are the players with passion for QPR the "forgotten men" the others can be worked on exception being SWP.. Green for his own sake needs to go in Jan (why he was brought him in, in the first place i will never know) any goalie but him..get him off our books, Dyer - ship him out, Barton sell him off. Cissé needs support up front in numbers and someone to link up with.. In summary they all need tweaking and fast..
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 13:23:33 GMT
Refuses Request to Resign www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/mark-hughes-refuses-qpr-request-to-resign-8335493.htmlIndependent/James Olley Mark Hughes refuses 'QPR request to resign' QPR manager is adamant he can turn the club’s fortunes around Mark Hughes clings on to his job after talks at QPR Mark Hughes has told Queens Park Rangers’ board members he will not walk away from the club after he was asked to resign as manager. The Evening Standard says Hughes met senior figures including chief executive Philip Beard and other influential figures in a meeting at which the Welshman was asked whether he would stand down after just 10 months in charge. With the club willing to allow Hughes to depart, rumours quickly circulated last night that the 49-year-old had been sacked. However, once Hughes indicated he was not prepared to walk away, the club stopped short of terminating his contract without chairman Tony Fernandes in attendance. Fernandes is currently out of the country but is expected to return sometime this week before Saturday’s match against Manchester United at Old Trafford. It is thought that Hughes would be entitled to pay-off in the region of £5million were the club to sack him and Fernandes’ approval is required to sanction that lump sum. Fernandes is reluctant to release Hughes because of the work he has done installing an infrastructure around the club. Hughes helped the QPR hierarchy draw up a club ‘code of conduct’ while overseeing improvements to the club’s medical department and training facilities. But there is only so long such advice can offset poor performance on the pitch and concerns are growing that their current plight is beyond salvation. Hughes is adamant he can turn the club’s fortunes around despite failing to register a single victory in their opening 12 Premier League games. Another defeat would heap further pressure on Hughes with certain members of the QPR board understood to be keen on luring Harry Redknapp to Loftus Road as his replacement. Hughes’ meeting lasted around 30 minutes and he was absent from training yesterday, although the club insist this was simply because yesterday’s session only involved minimal work. The players were not told anything yesterday about Hughes’ future and asked to train “as normal”. Two away trips to United and then Sunderland in the space of four days may give Hughes a last attempt to save his job but those within the club pressing for a change in manager are keen to instigate it before their relegation battle becomes unwinnable. Furthermore, the new manager would need time to identify targets in the January transfer window but any funds available would be reduced by the club’s need to pay Hughes off. He publicly confirmed last weekend he had no intention of quitting and privately that stance was firmly reiterated last night. Hughes’ task is complicated further by striker Bobby Zamora admitting he is unable to continue playing through pain from a hip injury. Zamora has been playing despite the problem for six weeks and is now likely to be sidelined for around three months with the prospect of surgery which would considerably lengthen that timeframe. Supporters voiced their anger at Hughes during last weekend’s 3-1 home defeat to Southampton and winger Junior Hoilett said: “I can understand the fans’ frustrations. We’re as frustrated as they are because we want to change this around and climb the table."
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Post by robbie on Nov 20, 2012 13:31:57 GMT
at least the board are trying to get rid of him , think he will be shown the door when TF swings into town!! though he'll need a security van to take away the cash!!!!
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 13:32:50 GMT
I just don't understand: If he says no: Just say - You're fired
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Post by bowranger on Nov 20, 2012 13:33:56 GMT
I just don't understand: If he says no: Just say - You're fired Because just saying "you're fired" costs £5mill, so they aren't gonna authorise that when TF isn't in town.
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 13:36:41 GMT
Does this at least constitute a vote of NO CONFIDENCE!
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Post by jjqpr on Nov 20, 2012 13:36:42 GMT
If hughes actually had ANY "fight" in him this wouldn't be so bloody depressing to read...I suppose he's fighting for his money, certainly a lot harder than he's (or the players) are fighting to get us some results.
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Post by haqpr1963 on Nov 20, 2012 13:46:05 GMT
How hilarious is that.
A story in the Independent written by James Olley based on a story in the Standard written by Chief Football Correspondent James Olley which seems to be mostly based on a couple of tweets from someone called @jamesolley the last of which was...
Think story is this. Board met, asked Hughes to step down (hence first tweet). Hughes said no (hence second tweet). Apologies for confusion.
So in other words he knows as much as the rest of us, congratulations to him for getting it in 2 papers though...
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 13:49:11 GMT
I guess his next step is to publish an article saying "As noted on the Major QPR Fan Site, QPR Report.....
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Post by bobwindle1936 on Nov 20, 2012 13:57:38 GMT
Bring in Alan Sugar Your Fired. ;D
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Post by birchambluerinse on Nov 20, 2012 14:10:00 GMT
i dont understand, if he is sacked for not doing his job properly, then he should not get the bleedin money (£5mill). If i was to get sacked tomorrow and my contract of employment was terminated, i would lose everything, my pension & regular salary, so why cant QPR just terminate his contract based on his terrible poor performance and lose of earnings? For all we know, he might want to be sacked, so he can just sit in his garden counting all his dosh, we dont know, do we.. Any manger could play that game to get out of something they dont like but with all the money, it just does not make sense to me.. Football really is fantasy..
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Post by sharky on Nov 20, 2012 14:12:21 GMT
..the way i see it is this, if players are not putting in a shift, then they need to be shipped off, i know it will come at a price (just like Hughes) but it has to happen, get players in that are motivated. i would not have a problem playing Hill, Mackie, Faurlin and Derry regularly, these are the players with passion for QPR the "forgotten men" the others can be worked on exception being SWP.. Green for his own sake needs to go in Jan (why he was brought him in, in the first place i will never know) any goalie but him..get him off our books, Dyer - ship him out, Barton sell him off. Cissé needs support up front in numbers and someone to link up with.. In summary they all need tweaking and fast.. The players are not putting a shift in because they have lost all faith in Hughes. A new Gaffer will get them up and going. Also Dyer played really well against Spuds, was back from injury and on the bench on Saturday and wasn't used. Proves my point that Hughes is a useless manager and the players know it. If he is with us at Christmas, he will have used the full squad and we will still be on 4 points, you just mark my words. Fire him and we will be winning games and on the road to recovery. Sparky OUT NOW!!!
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Post by bowranger on Nov 20, 2012 14:16:59 GMT
..the way i see it is this, if players are not putting in a shift, then they need to be shipped off, i know it will come at a price (just like Hughes) but it has to happen, get players in that are motivated. i would not have a problem playing Hill, Mackie, Faurlin and Derry regularly, these are the players with passion for QPR the "forgotten men" the others can be worked on exception being SWP.. Green for his own sake needs to go in Jan (why he was brought him in, in the first place i will never know) any goalie but him..get him off our books, Dyer - ship him out, Barton sell him off. Cissé needs support up front in numbers and someone to link up with.. In summary they all need tweaking and fast.. The players are not putting a shift in because they have lost all faith in Hughes. A new Gaffer will get them up and going. Also Dyer played really shake against Spuds, was back from injury and on the bench on Saturday and wasn't used. Proves my point that Hughes is a useless manager and the players know it. If he is with us at Christmas, he will have used the full squad and we will still be on 4 points, you just mark my words. Fire him and we will be winning games and on the road to recovery. Sparky OUT NOW!!! Don't agree with this really as I think it lets the players off the hook and doesn't really relate to the overall team dynamic. If anything, if they suddenly pull out all the stops for a new manager, I think that speaks volumes about the squad we have. A drop in performance, tactics not working etc. sure, I can excuse for players losing faith in the manager. But not tracking back? Not going for balls? Not giving 100% effort? That's no else's fault than the players' lack of professionalism.
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Post by nomar on Nov 20, 2012 15:01:14 GMT
Its a mess alright!
If anything good has come from the Southampton game its that the powers that be appear to have been humbled enough to rethink their whole strategy. That Hughes is now, apparently, admitting that some of his signings are just plain wrong for the club is at least a step in the right direction.
Whether he stays or goes the ripples of that Saints defeat appear to have now significantly chastened this club to a degree previously not seen during this regime.
This time there were no pithy retorts, no nonchalant "it'll all come good next week", no bemused head scratching as to why it all went wrong, no "we played well but was unlucky" claptrap. Instead, just the realization that things here really are genuinely very, very wrong and that a complete change of focus is needed to put this right.
At least now I feel like the penny has finally dropped and the small green shoots of recovery may at long last be soon following.
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Post by birchambluerinse on Nov 20, 2012 15:01:50 GMT
Yeah but what do you do when you have this happen week in week out, not tracking back, going for balls etc..? Ive seen the other side to that as well, players chasing balls, getting them, only for it to be delivered to nobody, now to me thats the fault of Hughes, why is he not on the training pitch saying, in a case like this, i want a player following that ball up, supporting the chaser, so position yourself (here) ready, so that on a blind delivery from the chaser, there is a chance you can get the ball, after all anything can happen once your inside the box.. Throw ins, why is there no available or near available player waiting for throw in's? nobody wants it. Why is Hughes not addressing things like this, to me its all basic, basic football..im not asking them to play like Barcelona (although it would be nice) i just want the basics addressed. Mackie, he brings him on on Saturday v Saints a game already lost in my opinion by the time he comes on.hughes says "he will chase everything" Well why the hell, did he not bring him on the week before v Stoke? the game was ours for the taking. Hoilett why is Hughes not restoring some order in the way he plays, he is a one man show, that needs to be address he should be linking up with Adel not playing against him, Zamora why is he the main organizer of our defensive wall? ...do you understand what im saying..
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Post by londonranger on Nov 20, 2012 15:07:26 GMT
68 69 we won our 13th match. Worst start to season. We can beat that by losing to Manure.
We had our worst loss that season losing 8-1 to Manure. We can beat that by losing 9-1. My pred is 9-0 if. if some other dude at helm, 6-1
Sauce Incenzo for facts
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 15:14:24 GMT
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Post by Bushman on Nov 20, 2012 16:15:42 GMT
Probably where Incenzo got it from in the first place.
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Post by saphilip on Nov 20, 2012 16:32:59 GMT
If Hughes was asked to resign is anybody really surprised that he turned it down? Only certain turkeys vote for Christmas - and this mercenary wa snever going to do thaT.
Nope if TF wants to get rid of him (note my use of the word IF) then he will have to do it the hard way and wonder why he gave this guy such a luctrative contract and the green light to totally stuff up this club along with his hangers on.
Not good business sense at all Tony. I bet you don't do that at Air Asia - and while football might be different I can't understand why you didn't use your business skills during negotiations with MH. I'm wonder of you did an in depth analysis of his coaching career that would have picked up the potentail flaws that were ready to pounce.
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 20, 2012 16:38:29 GMT
I just can't think of any example when the CEO asks you to resign and you refuse, that you then don't just get fired.
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Post by bushranger on Nov 20, 2012 16:49:42 GMT
Maybe Hughes will resign... but later in the week after he's done his usual "meticulous preparation" and planning for it? Attachments:
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Post by cpr on Nov 20, 2012 16:51:50 GMT
Indeed mac, hence why that bit is made up bollox.
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