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« Reply #30 on Aug 19, 2012, 12:21pm » | |
Cerny was brilliant vs Man Utd at home. And surely if Fergie benches his star-'keeper for an unproven Lindegaard, so can Hughes (?)
But he won't. And we have to deal with it.
I think the offence with that much potential that fails to score (Mackie's and Hoilett's misses) should be as scrutinised as the defence.
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« Reply #31 on Aug 19, 2012, 12:23pm via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
Aug 19, 2012, 12:21pm, Sabas wrote:Cerny was brilliant vs Man Utd at home. And surely if Fergie benches his star-'keeper for an unproven Lindegaard, so can Hughes (?)
But he won't. And we have to deal with it.
I think the offence with that much potential that fails to score (Mackie's and Hoilett's misses) should be as scrutinised as the defence. |
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Cerny was amazing at Liverpool too
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« Reply #32 on Aug 19, 2012, 6:57pm » | |
I think Radek's a good shot stopper but he's awful on crosses - he seems completely unable to catch or take a cross. To be fair he's quite good at sort of palming them away but that puts a lot of pressure on the full-backs to tidy up. Has there ever been a bad Polish keeper.... surely we could pick one up from the Ekstraklasa for peanuts.
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« Reply #33 on Aug 20, 2012, 7:21am » | |
I have read that Green is a "keeper with international pedigree" that is most likely because there is no one else around. He was England's Number 1 until a clanger lost him that position. Fills me with dread and the opposition with confidence. No team can survive a whole season with a keeper that makes frequent mistakes. We really have not improved our keeper at all and having sat two rows behind him never heard one bit of communication with his back four or even berating them for any of the goals either. He may have a decent game here and there but make no mistake we were doing ok until that howler and no keeper should get beaten by the shot for the first goal on saturday.
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« Reply #34 on Aug 20, 2012, 8:06am » | |
What worried me about Green is the fact that he let in goals which maybe he could of saved
So he didn't exactly drop clangers, he just looked a poor keeper
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« Reply #35 on Aug 20, 2012, 8:08am » | |
Green is an excellent keeper but is well known for his blunders unfortunately.
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« Reply #36 on Aug 20, 2012, 10:43am » | |
Aug 20, 2012, 8:06am, andrewqpr wrote:What worried me about Green is the fact that he let in goals which maybe he could of saved
So he didn't exactly drop clangers, he just looked a poor keeper |
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That's actually about as accurate description as you can get. basic mistakes that schoolboys make. sure he pulls off the odd great save that gets applauded but conceding a goal through schoolboy type errors is unforgivable in the Premier League and they most certainly will cost us a lot of points. The man is 31 and these have haunted him for years. There is obviously a flaw in his game and are 'we" prepared to gamble points away on it??
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« Reply #37 on Aug 20, 2012, 4:26pm » | |
OK Green made silly errors, but so did Paddy Kenny when we started out last season.
It's Green's first premiership game as well as his new club so double pressure there. I know Green will be disappointed more than anyone, but I say give the guy a break. Already we're looking for scapegoats and kicking the boot in. What's that going to achieve? Nada.
Get behind Green and I am sure he will come good.
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« Reply #38 on Aug 20, 2012, 5:38pm » | |
Have been watching this post with much mirth. One game into the new season. I remember sitting watching Lee Harper. I'd take Green anyday.
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« Reply #39 on Aug 20, 2012, 9:49pm » | |
David Seaman let in 5 on his debut for Rangers.
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« Reply #40 on Aug 20, 2012, 10:20pm » | |
So you say Green makes 10 mistakes a season well prehaps he was just getting most of them out the way in 1 game. To be honest im more worried about our total lack of defensive quality and shape.
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« Reply #41 on Aug 21, 2012, 8:14am » | |
Aug 20, 2012, 5:38pm, beanofire wrote:| Have been watching this post with much mirth. One game into the new season. I remember sitting watching Lee Harper. I'd take Green anyday. |
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If we had lost 1-0, I think we would have been less vocal - especially if it was not because of a blunder. But to let in 5 - 2 of which he had not chance of saving, it irked us heaps.
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« Reply #42 on Aug 21, 2012, 8:33am via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
I hope this thread does not become the mother of all threads.
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« Reply #43 on Aug 21, 2012, 9:08am » | |
It gives SWP a break.....
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« Reply #44 on Aug 21, 2012, 10:46am » | |
SWP was blameless on Sat - a First. Kinda felt sorry for him.
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« Reply #45 on Aug 21, 2012, 11:40am » | |
SWP, our new right back. Big, powerful stopper.
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« Reply #46 on Aug 21, 2012, 6:33pm » | |
When goalkeepers' confidence goes it's more easily notiable and more unforgiveable by fans than field players. I only need to look back to last season and the fate of this poor bastard. Two years earlier he was voted Blackpool's Player Of The Year. It was due to an injury that lost him his first team place and eventual release by the club. Football can be very cruel sometimes.
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« Reply #47 on Aug 22, 2012, 7:56pm » | |
1st goal was a blunder but as for the other 4 Green was left so exposed by our shocking defending i do agree though you'd maybe expect an england keeper to have got to 1 or 2.
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« Reply #48 on Aug 22, 2012, 9:16pm » | |
I started this thread so maybe I can add a little bit more into it. A friend of mine is currently playing for QPR and he trains with Rob Green every single day and was also on the Tour of Germany, I reckon his insight is probably better than all of ours and he said he's ....wait for it....... SHOCKING. Enough said.
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« Reply #49 on Aug 23, 2012, 2:20am » | |
The second goal was the only good goal Swansea scored. The guy caught hold of it perfectly.
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« Reply #50 on Aug 23, 2012, 3:45am » | |
Aug 21, 2012, 11:40am, gramps wrote:| SWP, our new right back. Big, powerful stopper. |
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I think Hughes had lost the plot by then
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« Reply #51 on Aug 23, 2012, 6:56am » | |
The Times reckon we are in advanced talks with Julio Cesar and want to sign him. 
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« Reply #52 on Aug 23, 2012, 9:35am » | |
Not even Julius Caeser could have saved Green and the defence .
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« Reply #53 on Aug 23, 2012, 10:16am via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
How true this is I do not know!
Someone told me yesterday that they had a chance to catch up with Paldini and said the squad are dismayed as to why we signed Green and the squad numbers have upset a few.
He was left with notion that its not a V happy camp. This person also said he felt "Paladini" still had a gripe with QPR , so there could be a sense of "Fark QPR ".
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« Reply #54 on Aug 23, 2012, 11:26am » | |
Well I just laughed at Cech's howler last evening, which was worse than Green.
Big difference was in the fact they scored straight after, take note Jamie Mackie. 
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« Reply #55 on Aug 23, 2012, 11:40am » | |
The FIRST thing management should have done has gone out and gotten the best older international keeper money could buy (2/3 year playing potential) and as well, went out and obtained the best goalkeeper prospect (that would be ready to play in 2/3 years)
Not sure what the attraction was to green.
A top-flight international keeper is always going to upset backline chemistry in the short term, but in the long-term, it would be better. QPR needs to focus FIRST on defense to stay up.
And I am a favorite of the "run and gun" soccer approach.
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« Reply #56 on Aug 23, 2012, 12:28pm » | |
Aug 22, 2012, 9:16pm, qprian wrote:| I started this thread so maybe I can add a little bit more into it. A friend of mine is currently playing for QPR and he trains with Rob Green every single day and was also on the Tour of Germany, I reckon his insight is probably better than all of ours and he said he's ....wait for it....... SHOCKING. Enough said. |
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The ghost of ric roc 
Unless this is a joke or i'm missing something, do you think your QPR playing friend would want his views that his own keeper is terrible being posted around the websites? Doesn't bother me you posting it, but wouldn't want you or him to get in trouble.
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« Reply #57 on Aug 23, 2012, 12:38pm » | |
Aug 23, 2012, 10:16am, kempton ranger wrote:How true this is I do not know!
Someone told me yesterday that they had a chance to catch up with Paldini and said the squad are dismayed as to why we signed Green and the squad numbers have upset a few.
He was left with notion that its not a V happy camp. This person also said he felt "Paladini" still had a gripe with QPR , so there could be a sense of "Fark QPR ".
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Well Gianni's "Boy" has pretty much endorsed the current regime and signings 
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« Reply #58 on Aug 23, 2012, 12:39pm » | |
And we didn't just stumble onto Green. It was a fairly lengthy pursuit. And Green's Qualities and Liabilities are pretty-well known.
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« Reply #59 on Aug 24, 2012, 9:04am » | |
we got Green because he was "free". I asked on here about a week ago, whom did fans on here rate as the best goalkeeper in the world. We should have been looking in Germany and Spain and eastern europe IMHO. Englsih goalkeepers have to be honest, sucked since Seamen joined Arsenal, although City's boy is pretty good out of a sad bunch.
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