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|  | Apparently Really Swansea's Rodgers for Liverpool
« Thread Started on May 29, 2012, 2:15pm » | |
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|  | BS? - Now Talk re Swansea's Rodgers for Liverpool
« Reply #1 on May 29, 2012, 3:04pm via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
Makes me laugh how some of the English press have linked Jurgen Klopp with the Liverpool job. He is still third favourite despite the fact he has already said he won't leave Dortmund. Why would he move from one of the biggest clubs in Europe to Liverpool anyway??
Hope it's either Rodgers or Martinez that gets it as whichever of the two clubs come out of this manager-less will surely go down.
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« Reply #2 on May 29, 2012, 3:42pm » | |
Good to see the Liverpool owners moving fast finding a replacement for "King Kenny"...
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| | Re: BS? - Now Talk re Swansea's Rodgers for Liverp
« Reply #3 on May 29, 2012, 11:00pm » | |
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Liverpool want to talk to Swansea's Brendan Rodgers about manager's job
• Liverpool hope to name new manager by Friday
• Roberto Martínez and Rodgers head shortlist
Andy Hunter
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 29 May 2012
Liverpool will seek permission to hold talks with Brendan Rodgers, the Swansea City manager, on Wednesday as they close in on naming a successor to Kenny Dalglish.
Fenway Sports Group, Liverpool's owner, expect to announce the club's new manager by Friday having reduced their search to a shortlist headed by Rodgers and Wigan Athletic's Roberto Martínez. No formal approach has been made to Swansea for Rodgers, who rejected Liverpool's offer of an interview two days after Dalglish's dismissal, but FSG have earmarked the 39-year-old as their preferred choice and are confident Rodgers will reciprocate their interest when he receives an offer of the job.
They also believe obstacles complicating a move to Anfield, such as compensation, Swansea's reluctance to lose their manager and the new management structure intended for Liverpool, can be overcome in the next few days.
Rodgers signed a new three-and-a-half-year contract with Swansea only in January that includes a release clause of around £5m. He later admitted, amid reported interest from Tottenham Hotspur at a time when Harry Redknapp was favourite for the England job, that it would require an agreement with the Swansea chairman, Huw Jenkins, to activate the clause.
"I didn't put any clause in my contract to say if a top-four club comes in then I can speak to them. Not at all," Rodgers said. "The only item that was in the contract was if a big club came in and wanted me, and the chairman and I felt it was right for us to move on, then I wanted the club to benefit from it. That was very important for me that if I left the club would get rewarded. Other than that, I didn't want to instigate anything in the contract because I wanted to show I was happy here and continue to work."
Swansea would be loth to lose the manager who guided them to promotion to the Premier League followed by an 11th-place finish in the top flight last season. On Monday Jenkins dismissed as "pure speculation" reports of talks having been arranged between Liverpool and Rodgers and has announced a club record £6.8m deal with Hoffenheim for Gylfi Sigurdsson, the Iceland midfielder who made a stunning impact on loan at Swansea last season. That transfer, due to be finalised at the end of the week, represents a major statement of intent from the Welsh club under Rodgers.
The Swansea manager held talks with Jenkins on Tuesday following his return from a holiday in the United States. The club claim it was a prearranged meeting to discuss the Sigurdsson signing and possibly that of Tottenham's Giovani dos Santos, who Rodgers watched during Sunday's friendly between Mexico and Wales at the MetLife Stadium in New Jersey, where he was a guest of the Football Association of Wales. But Rodgers was aware of Liverpool's interest prior to his meeting with Jenkins and the size of his release clause would not deter FSG.
Martínez also returned to Britain from a family holiday on Tuesday but has not yet held a second round of talks with Liverpool's owners, as predicted by the Wigan chairman, Dave Whelan. They are likely to take place on Wednesday. Martínez met Liverpool's principal owner, John W Henry, in Miami last week and has been given until Thursday by Whelan to decide on his future amid renewed interest from Aston Villa.
The Spaniard's proposed move to Liverpool is complicated by FSG's intention of appointing a sporting director-type figure at the head of a new management structure. Louis van Gaal is a leading candidate for that role but the Dutchman may wish to be considered for the manager's position, a stance that is at odds with FSG's vision.
Meanwhile, Mohamed Diame, Martínez's former midfielder at Wigan, has revealed he was set on a free transfer to Liverpool until Dalglish was sacked as manager. The Senegal international, who is out of contract this summer, said: "I met Kenny Dalglish and we talked about next season but God decided to finish this situation. It is true. I was very sad in my head as I was thinking to go there but that is okay as I think I have got other opportunities to go to another club. I have got some offers from Spain, from France, from Turkey, but I really want to stay in the Premier League."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/29/liverpool-brendan-rodgers-manager
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« Reply #4 on May 30, 2012, 7:40am » | |
I'm waiting for Martin Jol to be linked.I'd LOVE it just Love it if left Fools for them.. 
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| | Re: BS? - Now Talk re Swansea's Rodgers for Liverp
« Reply #5 on May 30, 2012, 7:44am » | |
Can't see Rodgers leaving swansea, think he already said he didn't want to so I think its BS
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| | Re: BS? - Now Talk re Swansea's Rodgers for Liverp
« Reply #6 on May 30, 2012, 7:57am » | |
SSN said that the bookies have stopped taking bets on Rodgers to get the job
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« Reply #7 on May 30, 2012, 8:30am » | |
He will be Liverpool manager by Friday IMO
Swansea will go down next season.
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« Reply #8 on May 30, 2012, 8:37am » | |
Very brave move by Liverpool...If it happens, Mark Hughes probably thinking could have been/should have been him!
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« Reply #9 on May 30, 2012, 8:42am » | |
I think he will be Manager by Friday aswell , but don't expect them to go down , have a good little team there now,there will be three weaker teams than Swansea I reckon .
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« Reply #10 on May 30, 2012, 8:48am » | |
So who's jumping on the Merry Go Round and getting the Swansea job then? Any thoughts? Mick McArthy? 
Swanseola to Old Style Wimbledon in one foul swoop.
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« Reply #11 on May 30, 2012, 8:52am » | |
Maybe Ian Holloway?
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« Reply #12 on May 30, 2012, 8:53am » | |
Swansea fans reckon it Guy Poyet will be his replacement.
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« Reply #13 on May 30, 2012, 8:54am » | |
Or even Matteo if he's screwed by Chelsea?
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« Reply #14 on May 30, 2012, 8:56am » | |
May 30, 2012, 8:54am, Macmoish wrote:| Or even Matteo if he's screwed by Chelsea? |
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Good shout.
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« Reply #15 on May 30, 2012, 9:34am » | |
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« Reply #16 on May 30, 2012, 4:27pm » | |
Apparently it's Rodgers for Liverpool.
What a gamble.
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« Reply #17 on May 30, 2012, 4:34pm via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
Reckon he will take Sinclair and Gylfi with him.
Martinez to Swansea now I reckon.
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« Reply #18 on May 30, 2012, 4:39pm » | |
Wasnt Martinez at Swansea before he left for Wigan? Are they a step up for Martinez now
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May 30, 2012, 4:39pm, Macmoish wrote:| Wasnt Martinez at Swansea before he left for Wigan? Are they a step up for Martinez now |
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Yes he was.
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« Reply #20 on May 30, 2012, 4:40pm » | |
Brendan Rodgers agrees deal to become new Liverpool manager
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18235961
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« Reply #21 on May 30, 2012, 4:44pm » | |
Weird. Weird. Weird. (Weirder than Hodgson to Liverpool)
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« Reply #22 on May 30, 2012, 4:50pm via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
I have been impressed with swansea's selection of managers. They have had 3 different managers in the last 5 years. With each manager they have kept the same style of football and have improved every season. Whatever the board are doing. They're doing it right. Don't see Rodgers leaving causing them too much of a problem. They will select well again in their choice of manager.
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« Reply #23 on May 30, 2012, 4:57pm » | |
Personally, I find this appointment bizarre but only in the context that clubs are so completely short sighted and always seem to appoint someone who is flavour of the month.
Why appoint Rodgers when his only notable success is 2 seasons with Swansea when he inherited what was already a very good team. He is organised and clever, does good prep and knows how to keep players fit. Every manager knows how to do this or at least ought to. His time with Watford was lukewarm and his Reading tenure was cack.
As Newcastle proved with Alan Pardew, you do not need to pay 4 or 5 million compensation. There are good managers out there waiting to be picked up for free.
I might start a thread...Football management is easy...if you are lucky.
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« Reply #24 on May 30, 2012, 5:18pm » | |
Rodgers is one of several bright young managers. Just because he failed at Reading doesn't mean he'll fail at Liverpool. Look at Alan Pardew as proof if that.
I think Swansea will be fine, especially as the word on the street is that Di Matteo will go there.
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« Reply #25 on May 30, 2012, 5:41pm » | |
Rogers will fail because the Liverpool fans will not take to an outsider replacing "King Kenny"
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« Reply #26 on May 30, 2012, 5:49pm » | |
May 30, 2012, 5:18pm, nomar wrote:| Rodgers is one of several bright young managers. Just because he failed at Reading doesn't mean he'll fail at Liverpool. Look at Alan Pardew as proof if that. |
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Yup that is exactly my point, if past record is such an unreliable barometer of future success why pay 5 million in compensation to prise a manager away from his club when you can get an equally capable prospect for free if they are between jobs.
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« Reply #27 on May 30, 2012, 6:11pm » | |
May 30, 2012, 5:41pm, manta wrote:| Rogers will fail because the Liverpool fans will not take to an outsider replacing "King Kenny" |
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A majority of Liverpool fans wanted him gone so I don't agree with this.
The reason he will fail at Liverpool is because he won't have the ability to make every decision like he did at Swansea. He will have someone to make the transfers for him and some won't even be his targets.
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« Reply #28 on May 30, 2012, 6:16pm » | |
Plus European Football is a big step up...
And the immediate expectations: If Liverpool Finish Outside top six and Win no Trophy next season: That's a major, major disaster for Liverpool fans.
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« Reply #29 on May 30, 2012, 6:17pm » | |
May 30, 2012, 6:11pm, RoryTheRanger wrote:
May 30, 2012, 5:41pm, manta wrote:| Rogers will fail because the Liverpool fans will not take to an outsider replacing "King Kenny" |
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A majority of Liverpool fans wanted him gone so I don't agree with this.
The reason he will fail at Liverpool is because he won't have the ability to make every decision like he did at Swansea. He will have someone to make the transfers for him and some won't even be his targets. |
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From what I have read and understood, I would say these fans were in the minority. But I agree with you about Rogers' having less control at Liverpool than he had at Swansea.
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