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« Reply #60 on May 29, 2012, 2:58pm via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
That's two posters gone in two days, we're dropping like flies 
As for the JT racism thingy you don't have to be an expert at lip reading to see what he said from the footage.
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« Reply #63 on May 29, 2012, 4:05pm » | |
May 29, 2012, 2:47pm, klr wrote:
May 29, 2012, 11:34am, superckat wrote:
I didn't quote you in my above comment and didn't say it was a quote I said you didn't see anything wrong with what Terry said. But if you want some quote see below. This is what my opinion is based on.
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"If they sorted it out after the match then what has it got to do with anyone else ?
I dont particularly like Terry, but I tell you what I definately dont like; the demonisation of a working class white male by "holier than though" & "right on" middle class types in the media / "the Race Industry"
Now that hasnt necessarily happened in that instance, but its what usually happens in this country & it depresse's people & makes people more resentful, not more "inclusive" or any of that B*llocks.
John Terry may be a Racist, but at least he's not a hypocrite."
Quote 2
"JT is Innocent"
Quote 3 after probably realising what you said in quote 2
"Well, he's probably not IMO, but thats not my point."
Doesn't seem like you are against what John Terry said. Looks very much like you see nothing wrong in what he said. Again. You said "John Terry may be a Racist, but at least he's not a hypocrite." Now tell me I'm wrong.
Sometimes it's just too easy
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Well that's case settled isnt it ?!
You need to get over yourself you great big tart, Anton Ferdinand doesnt know what "JT" was alleged to have said to him, but you, some fat old tart on a messageboard, somehow you do know what was said right ?! give it a rest you tart.
Anyway, you've wound me right up & the rest of you c*Nts can go to Hell & highwater & take your poxy little messageboard with you, that's it from me, for good!
Go fu ck yourselves!
Shaun Wright-Phillips, you can to Hell you little C*nt.
Goodbye, for those that I was friends with Godbless! & maybe I will be seeing a couple of you next season, the rest of you can go to Hell!
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Guess you didn't like the quotes then. I have been called many things. "fat old tart on a messageboard" is actually one of the nicer names.
Anyway goodbye. It's been emotional.
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« Reply #64 on May 29, 2012, 4:15pm » | |
I had stopped reading this thread. Perhaps I shouldn't. (Or perhaps I should have!)
I'm sorry it came to this
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« Reply #65 on May 29, 2012, 4:18pm » | |
Dont worry Mac. At least it has prompted me to keep notes in readiness for PANORAMA 2014
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« Reply #66 on May 29, 2012, 4:36pm » | |
May 29, 2012, 4:15pm, Macmoish wrote:I had stopped reading this thread. Perhaps I shouldn't. (Or perhaps I should have!)
I'm sorry it came to this
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I'm more upset by the imminent poll from hitman we'll have to suffer on whether we hounded klr out or not
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« Reply #67 on May 29, 2012, 5:00pm » | |
May 29, 2012, 4:36pm, blatantfowl wrote:| I'm more upset by the imminent poll from hitman we'll have to suffer on whether we hounded klr out or not |
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Well, if it is any consolation, you don't have to worry about hearing from hitman anytime soon.
I think this is why the board needs to stick with football. As soon as we tread into any socio-political conversation someone ends up leaving.
ANyone hate SWP enough to take up the mantle?
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« Reply #68 on May 29, 2012, 5:00pm » | |
Dissapointing to see how this thread has gone discussing and panorama and klr's comments
At the end of the day the panorama programme showed everything that is bad for football and social life in the world and klr should not of questioned peoples posts regarding this
The point he makes about being safer in the Ukraine to London at night is probably correct but it should of been left at that
His final outburst against fellow posters will not give him any chance of coming back which is a shame because I quite looked forward to some of klr's posts
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« Reply #69 on May 29, 2012, 6:29pm » | |
For good reason, it's a founding principle of this board to stay away from politics, etc.
But at the same time, it's a founding principle of this board to be interested in any and every aspect of QPR - AND more general Football issues.
So it was a fair subject to post on...Even if things unfortunately turned out as they did.
And as any regular reader of this board well knows, I am in the forefront in posting on more generic Football subjects which at least I think of interest or importance.
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« Reply #70 on May 29, 2012, 7:07pm » | |
KLR has personal problems, mainly between the ears.
I wish him & SWP a lasting relationship.
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« Reply #71 on May 29, 2012, 7:18pm » | |
We all have perspectives, beliefs, even idiosyncracies...
I think I'll lock this thread
And if we want to discuss the Problems ofthe Euro2012, just start a new thread.
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« Reply #73 on May 29, 2012, 7:40pm » | |
I think I forgot to lock it!
OK if we just discuss the issue and not re past poster or anything, keep open...
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« Reply #74 on May 29, 2012, 7:41pm » | |
So to add: This blog post from "Left Foot Forward"
- Euro 2012: Prepare for racism, anti-Semitism and violence in Poland and Ukraine
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2012/05/e....itism-violence/
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« Reply #75 on May 30, 2012, 7:34am » | |
Deary Deary me.!! 
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« Reply #76 on May 30, 2012, 7:40am » | |
GUardian/Reuters
Euro 2012: Poland and Ukraine hit back at racism accusations
• Polish prime minister says there is no danger
• Ukraine government says allegations are 'invented'
Poland and Ukraine reacted sharply on Tuesday to charges of racism and mob violence on their terraces and gave assurances that foreign footballers and fans would be safe during the Euro 2012 tournament they will co-host next month.
The neighbours moved to counteract a BBC Panorama investigative programme on football violence filmed in their countries. The programme, shown on Monday, contained footage of fans giving Nazi salutes, taunting black players with monkey noises, antisemitic chants and a group of Asian students being attacked at the Metalist Stadium in Kharkiv, one of the four Ukrainian cities which will be hosting group matches.
The Polish prime minister, Donald Tusk, said: "Nobody who comes to Poland will be in any danger because of his race. This is not our custom, as is not pointing out similar incidents in other countries, although we know they take place. In Poland, they're a rarity," he said.
In Kiev, Ukraine's foreign ministry went further, saying the allegations were a "dreamed up and mythical problem". "You can criticise Ukrainian society for a lot of things ... but, in the practice of racism, European Union member countries are a long way ahead of Ukraine," said a ministry spokesman Oleh Voloshyn in comments reported by Interfax news agency.
For Ukraine, the racism allegations have added to a deluge of other bad publicity ahead of Euro 2012, a competition the former Soviet republic had hoped would show it as a modern state eligible to join the European Union.
The jailing of the opposition leader, Yulia Tymoshenko, has triggered charges of backsliding on democracy from the EU, some of whose politicians are threatening to boycott the tournament. Reports of high-level corruption, excessive hotel prices, violence against participants of a Gay pride meeting and graphic images of a brawl in parliament over a language law have further damaged Ukraine's international image.
Ukrainian authorities fear the bad publicity could translate into low ticket sales and reduced tourist revenue to the detriment of their indebted economy.
Particularly stinging were the comments by the former England international Sol Campbell who, in the Panorama programme, warned England fans not to travel to Euro 2012 because of the threat of racism and violence. Campbell, who played 73 times for England and appeared at six major tournaments, said: "Stay at home, watch it on TV. Don't even risk it ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin."
His comments follow announcements from the families of two black England players who said they would not go to the championship.
Former Ukrainian internationals rallied to their country's defence. Andriy Shevchenko, who played for Chelsea, said: "We do not have any real problems with racism. Ukraine is a very peaceful country and people here are very friendly."
Oleh Luzhny, who used to play for Arsenal, was quoted by the online publication Korrespondent.net as saying: "I have never heard any talk about this problem [racism]. We have Nigerian football players here and I have never heard about outbreaks of racism."
The Uefa 2012 director, Markiyan Lubkivsky, faced with a barrage of questions on racism following the Panorama programme, pleaded with journalists to declare a "moratorium" on negative information about the championship. "So much mud has been heaped on this championship, and on the process of preparing for it," he said. "Ninety per cent of all the information is just not true."
He said Uefa saw no threat to citizens of various nationalities who came to Ukraine for Euro 2012 and, directly addressing Campbell's comments, he said: "These were simply insulting."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/....cism-supporters
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« Reply #77 on May 30, 2012, 7:41am » | |
Guardian
Euro 2012: Mario Balotelli threatens to 'kill' banana-throwing fans
• I will not accept racism at all, says Italy striker
• Balotelli has been a past target, at home and abroad
Marcus Christenson
The Guardian, Tuesday 29 May 2012
The Italy and Manchester City striker Mario Balotelli has threatened to kill anyone who throws a banana at him in the street or on the pitch during the Euro 2012 finals in Poland and Ukraine.
His comments come a day after Sol Campbell, speaking on Panorama, told England fans not to travel to the competition because they could "end up coming back in a coffin".
Balotelli, who is preparing with the Italian team for their Group C fixtures, said: "I will not accept racism at all. It's unacceptable. If someone throws a banana at me in the street, I will go to jail, because I will kill them."
The 21-year-old is not a stranger to racism and was once pelted with bananas in a Rome bar before the European Under-21 Championships in June 2009. "It was lucky that the police arrived quickly because, I swear, I would have beaten them. I would have really destroyed them. I hope it never happens again." He has been the victim of racist abuse on several occasions – most recently in February when Porto were fined over the behaviour of their supporters in a Europa League tie against City.
"Let's see what happens at the Euros," he added. "I hope it will pass without a problem."
The Italian also described himself as a genius, saying: "I think I am a genius but not a rebel. I have my life, my world, I do what I want, without annoying anyone. I believe I am more intelligent than the average person. The talent God gave me is beautiful and wonderful but it is difficult because you are always facing other people keen to judge you."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/30/euro-2012-mario-balotelli-italy
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« Reply #78 on May 30, 2012, 7:44am » | |
I like Mario Balotelli.I really do..
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« Reply #79 on May 30, 2012, 7:50am » | |
May 30, 2012, 7:44am, ozzh00p wrote:| I like Mario Balotelli.I really do.. |
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If their was a prize for the dumbest footballer then he would win it every year
I would rather throw a bib at him, that would really confuse him
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« Reply #81 on May 30, 2012, 8:31am » | |
I'm a big fan of Balotelli as well, we need characters like him in football.
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« Reply #82 on May 30, 2012, 9:58pm » | |
May 29, 2012, 2:47pm, klr wrote:
May 29, 2012, 11:34am, superckat wrote:
I didn't quote you in my above comment and didn't say it was a quote I said you didn't see anything wrong with what Terry said. But if you want some quote see below. This is what my opinion is based on.
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"If they sorted it out after the match then what has it got to do with anyone else ?
I dont particularly like Terry, but I tell you what I definately dont like; the demonisation of a working class white male by "holier than though" & "right on" middle class types in the media / "the Race Industry"
Now that hasnt necessarily happened in that instance, but its what usually happens in this country & it depresse's people & makes people more resentful, not more "inclusive" or any of that B*llocks.
John Terry may be a Racist, but at least he's not a hypocrite."
Quote 2
"JT is Innocent"
Quote 3 after probably realising what you said in quote 2
"Well, he's probably not IMO, but thats not my point."
Doesn't seem like you are against what John Terry said. Looks very much like you see nothing wrong in what he said. Again. You said "John Terry may be a Racist, but at least he's not a hypocrite." Now tell me I'm wrong.
Sometimes it's just too easy
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Well that's case settled isnt it ?!
You need to get over yourself you great big tart, Anton Ferdinand doesnt know what "JT" was alleged to have said to him, but you, some fat old tart on a messageboard, somehow you do know what was said right ?! give it a rest you tart.
Anyway, you've wound me right up & the rest of you c*Nts can go to Hell & highwater & take your poxy little messageboard with you, that's it from me, for good!
Go fu ck yourselves!
Shaun Wright-Phillips, you can to Hell you little C*nt.
Goodbye, for those that I was friends with Godbless! & maybe I will be seeing a couple of you next season, the rest of you can go to Hell!
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« Reply #83 on May 30, 2012, 10:11pm » | |
Balotelli saying he would walk from the pitch is the most sensible thing I have heard from him...I think.
Just wondering about the ramifications if this were really to happen. I don't want the Euros disrupted as the everybody loses but if what we saw on that documentary happens at a euro match then it needs immediate sanction
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« Reply #85 on May 30, 2012, 10:13pm » | |
May 30, 2012, 10:11pm, RoryTheRanger wrote:
May 30, 2012, 10:11pm, blatantfowl wrote:Balotelli saying he would walk from the pitch is the most sensible thing I have heard from him...I think.
Just wondering about the ramifications if this were really to happen. I don't want the Euros disrupted as the everybody loses but if what we saw on that documentary happens at a euro match then it needs immediate sanction |
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But Balotelli did also say he would kill anyone that threw a banana at him |
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Yeah, I am actually taking homocide threat with a pinch of salt for now!
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« Reply #87 on May 30, 2012, 10:22pm » | |
Footballers are to robotic these days, the more Balotellis the better.
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« Reply #88 on May 30, 2012, 10:27pm » | |
or maybe bartons...
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« Reply #89 on May 30, 2012, 10:30pm » | |
May 30, 2012, 10:27pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:no one of those is defo enough.
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