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« Reply #840 on Jun 19, 2012, 7:47pm »

disagree maude, hughes wouldnt stay if he couldnt spend
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« Reply #841 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:10pm »

so what do you expect hughes has to spend?

you seem to know why he is staying, so how much is he staying for???

wages or transfer budget?.......i'll except either.
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« Reply #842 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:12pm »


Jun 19, 2012, 7:47pm, auburnqpr wrote:
disagree maude, hughes wouldnt stay if he couldnt spend


Exactly. He walked out on Fulham because he believed they lacked ambition, pretty sure he'd do the same here if they was no transfer budget.
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« Reply #843 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:12pm »

Transfer budget I reckon about £15m, maybe slightly more.
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« Reply #844 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:25pm »

I would be surprised if he didnt have enough to buy two quality players aswell as Diakite , 4Million Diakite and 6-7 million for two players like Samba /moses etc so still feel we will spend 16-18milion as well as picking up Nelsen, Green ,Johnson on frees and a couple of loans like Fabio and Jenas !
This way we get 8 players but only pay for two ,although they do get signing on fees and other shite.
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« Reply #845 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:33pm »

is 15-18 mil a lot?

he got that at fulham .
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« Reply #846 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:34pm »

It's a lot for us when you think of where we've come from. We don't need much more than £16m though, it's not about how much we spend, it's about who we actually bring in.

We don't actually need too many more players. We have Faurlin coming back, Mackie will hopefully continue his great form, same with Cisse. Just a few positions need strengthening especially after our freebie and loan signings.
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« Reply #847 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:37pm »


Jun 19, 2012, 9:33pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:
is 15-18 mil a lot?

he got that at fulham .

That's wrong! He's never had more than 10m a season at Fulham.
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« Reply #848 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:42pm »


Jun 19, 2012, 9:33pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:
is 15-18 mil a lot?

he got that at fulham .


Bear in mind he also spend a fair bit in January.
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« Reply #849 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:46pm »

Its not alot in Prem terms when you hear Reading might bid nearly 10 million for the Pog.
Looks like Chelsea will get Moses going back in with a bigger offer than 4 million and he wants to leave and go there , shame hope he dont rot on the bench and end up feeling like others.
would love to have seen Moses at Rangers!
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« Reply #850 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:01pm »


Jun 19, 2012, 9:37pm, Jo-Onenil wrote:

Jun 19, 2012, 9:33pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:
is 15-18 mil a lot?

he got that at fulham .

That's wrong! He's never had more than 10m a season at Fulham.


show me i'm wrong
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« Reply #851 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:07pm »

According to Wikipedia this is Sparky's transfers whilst at Fulham -

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After the departure of Chris Smalling to Manchester United, fellow defender Philippe Senderos was Fulham's first signing of the summer when he moved from Arsenal on a free transfer.[7][8] Nicky Shorey and Stefano Okaka both returned to Aston Villa and AS Roma respectively at the end of their loan deals, while Wayne Brown was released.[7] Erik Nevland, Toni Kallio, Christopher Buchtmann, Michael Uwezu, Andranik and Stefan Payne all left the club at the beginning of July.[9] Jonathan Greening committed his future to Fulham by completing a permanent transfer from West Bromwich Albion after a season-long loan.
Fulham made further signings following the start of the Premier League season. Moussa Dembélé moved in a £5million deal from Dutch side AZ Alkmaar. Algerian defender Rafik Halliche signed for the club on 24 August from S.L. Benfica for an undisclosed fee. Three days later, Fulham secured a deal to bring Mexican defender Carlos Salcido to the club for £1.5million. On transfer deadline day, defender Paul Konchesky departed to Liverpool, with two young players - Lauri Dalla Valle and Alex Kacaniklic - joining Fulham as part of the deal.[10]

So I make that around £7-8m
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« Reply #852 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:19pm »

keep googling rory,

you will find more.

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« Reply #853 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:22pm »

Every site I've looked on says between £7.5m to £9m.
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« Reply #854 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:23pm »

google more.

you have raised another million
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« Reply #855 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:24pm »

Yeah that was from their January transfers, the only fee's they paid were about 700k for Steve Sidwell
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« Reply #856 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:26pm »

I don't think (Career wise) Hughes can "afford" to walk out on QPR right now.
He needs a full season - even if he doesn't have the transfer budget he might want.

If he has a good season - without spending masses - and if the future doesn't look promising, then maybe after the season.

However I'm not so sure. We don't have massive Top six budget. But we'll see how much he gets...Throw in wages and signing on fees. And buying Training ground etc. So maybe he's prepared because over longer period, will get more.
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« Reply #857 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:31pm »

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« Reply #858 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:38pm »

How much did we spend in Jan , Onuaha 3.5 ? Cisse 5 ,Zam 5 , cant think who else but 12-15 million? expect around the same , 15-18 million , any less would be amazed!
Hughes is here for a while or until a big fish comes in or us ?
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« Reply #859 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:38pm »

there is more to know than on sites rory.

hughes is not with us for our transfer budget, nor for our ambition. maybe shepherds bush is the place to live? [image]
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« Reply #860 on Jun 19, 2012, 11:03pm »


Jun 19, 2012, 9:12pm, fabs wrote:

Jun 19, 2012, 7:47pm, auburnqpr wrote:
disagree maude, hughes wouldnt stay if he couldnt spend


Exactly. He walked out on Fulham because he believed they lacked ambition, pretty sure he'd do the same here if they was no transfer budget.

All this talk about how big the budget is at QPR v Foolham is irrelevant in the discussion as to whether Sparky stays or goes. It's about the ambition of the club. If he was given £20 mil and no ambition he would go, but if he was given £15 mil with ambition he would stay. TF has the sort of ambition he wants so he will stay. Well stay until another team with greater ambition wants him!!
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« Reply #861 on Jun 20, 2012, 12:05am »

I have been sucking a thoughtful tooth about our loan players. Nibbling at the end of my pencil (easy!) and am wondering if the reason we haven't heard anything re: Diakite, Taiwo, etc. is because they are on loan to us until June 30th, the day before the transfer window opens. So, essentially they are still at the club until then (as is Macheda hence he is still on the QPR website), and then their transfers, if they are to occur, will be announced on the 1st July.

I have only a Little Brain, so it takes me a while to come to conclusions.
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« Reply #862 on Jun 20, 2012, 12:51am »

I reckon we get Diakite...Ireland if Buzsacky leaves...a CB...LB....and RW. Maybe a Stiker in January.
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« Reply #863 on Jun 20, 2012, 6:21am »


Jun 20, 2012, 12:05am, fraserinbc wrote:
I have been sucking a thoughtful tooth about our loan players. Nibbling at the end of my pencil (easy!) and am wondering if the reason we haven't heard anything re: Diakite, Taiwo, etc. is because they are on loan to us until June 30th, the day before the transfer window opens. So, essentially they are still at the club until then (as is Macheda hence he is still on the QPR website), and then their transfers, if they are to occur, will be announced on the 1st July.

I have only a Little Brain, so it takes me a while to come to conclusions.


Possible. The date makes sense. But the other transfer announcements said would be ours as of July 1...
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Jun 19, 2012, 9:46pm, harlowranger wrote:
Its not alot in Prem terms when you hear Reading might bid nearly 10 million for the Pog.
Looks like Chelsea will get Moses going back in with a bigger offer than 4 million and he wants to leave and go there , shame hope he dont rot on the bench and end up feeling like others.
would love to have seen Moses at Rangers!


Pogrebnyak is a free agent. They didn't bid 10 millions, it's the worth of his 4-year-contract.
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« Reply #865 on Jun 20, 2012, 7:48am »


Jun 19, 2012, 10:38pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:
there is more to know than on sites rory.

hughes is not with us for our transfer budget, nor for our ambition. maybe shepherds bush is the place to live? [image]


There is not a lot more to know. He didn't transfer grandmas to cook the pies for the half-time break with his transfer budget. Maybe the agents fees are added to that, but Hughes never had more than 10m at Fulham, because Fulham have never spend so big. They are always looking at bargains.

If the finances were short, the owners wouldn't talk all day long about ambition and how far we could go. They would talk about a more sensible "let's build on last year to be safe before the last game."

We have the money. I'm just happy if we spend it wisely and that's what is happening at the moment. We just don't bid for every Prem Player available as it was the case at the end of last summer. I don't want anymore flops like Barton, SWP, Campbell or Bothroyd, and the key to make a decent transfer window is to be patient.
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« Reply #866 on Jun 20, 2012, 8:04am »


Jun 20, 2012, 12:51am, auburnqpr wrote:
I reckon we get Diakite...Ireland if Buzsacky leaves...a CB...LB....and RW. Maybe a Stiker in January.


I think we'll only get Ireland if we can somehow get rid of Barton.
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« Reply #867 on Jun 20, 2012, 8:34am »

1st July being on the Sunday does that mean all these deals already done in the Prem wont get announced until the Monday 2nd or would they announce over the weekend?
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On the main QPR offy three of the QPR Players are in a different coulour to the rest Perone and a couple of others not sure what that means? :)




TRANSFER TRACKER: JUNE 20TH
Posted on: Wed 20 Jun 2012

With the Transfer Window now open and all the business happening around the Premier League, you could easily miss out on who's gone where.

www.qpr.co.uk will keep you in touch and up to date with all the movers and shakers in the Barclays Premier League over the summer months with a complete list of transfers.

Each and every top-flight Club is detailed below, but if there's something missing then simply e-mail adamh@qpr.co.uk to help update the list.

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Latest Activity: Premier League new boys, West Ham, make their first signing of the summer, as shot-stopper Jussi Jaaskelainen joins the Hammers on a free transfer from recently relegated Bolton Wanderers.

The R's also made their first signings of the summer, as Ryan Nelsen and Andy Johnson joined Loftus Road earlier this week.

Rangers Rumour Mill: The R's continue to be linked with a plethora of players, including Kolo Toure, Wayne Bridge and Fabio da Silva.


ARSENAL
Manager: Arsene Wenger
In: Lukas Podolski (FC Koln; undisclosed)
Out:
Released: Manuel Almunia, Gavin Hoyte, George Brislen-Hall, Sean McDermott, Rhys Murphy

ASTON VILLA
Manager: Paul Lambert
In: Brett Holman (AZ Alkmaar; free)
Out:
Released: Emile Heskey, Carlos Cuellar, Brad Guzan, Reece Caira, Ebby Nelson-Addy, Connor Taylor, Charles Ward

CHELSEA
Manager: Roberto Di Matteo
In: Marko Marin (Werder Breman; £7m), Edin Hazard (Lille; undisclosed)
Out:
Released: Didier Drogba, Salomon Kalou, Jose Bosingwa, Marko Mitrovic, Rhys Taylor

EVERTON
Manager: David Moyes
In:
Out: Adam Forshaw (Brentford; undisclosed)
Released: James McFadden, Marcus Hahnemann, Adam Davies, Connor Roberts, Aristote Nsiala, Femi Orenuga

FULHAM
Manager: Martin Jol
In:
Out:
Released: Andrew Johnson, Danny Murphy, Pavel Pogrebnyak, Bjorn Helge Riise, Richard Barriolhet, Jonathan Cosgrove, Zdenek Grygera

LIVERPOOL
Manager: Brendan Rodgers
In:
Out: David Amoo (Preston North End; free), Dirk Kuyt (Fenerbache; £1m)
Released: Fabio Aurelio, Stephen Darby, Kristjan Emilson, Emmanuel Gmos, Matthew McGiveron, Michael Roberts

MANCHESTER CITY
Manager: Roberto Mancini
In:
Out:
Released: Owen Hargreaves, Gai Assulin, Sean Tse, Stuart Taylor, Gunnar Nielsen, Andreas Mancini, Ahmed Benali

MANCHESTER UNITED
Manager: Alex Ferguson
In: Shinki Kagawa (Borussia Dortmund; £12m), Nick Powell (Crewe Alexandra; undisclosed)
Out: Ritchie De Laet (Leicester City; undisclosed), Matthew James (Leicester City; undisclosed)
Released: Michael Owen, Tomasz Kuszcak

NEWCASTLE UNITED
Manager: Alan Pardew
In: Romain Amalfitano (Stade de Reims, free)
Out:
Released: Danny Guthrie, Peter Lovenkrands, Alan Smith, Samuel Adjei, Philip Airey, Ryan Donaldson, Stephen Folan, Jeffrey Henderson, Tamas Kadar, Greg McDermott, Patrick Nzuzi

NORWICH CITY
Manager: Chris Hughton
In:
Out:
Released: Zak Whitbread, Aaron Wilbraham, Matthew Ball, Richard Brindley, Josh Dawkin

QPR
Manager: Mark Hughes
In: Andrew Johnson (Fulham; free), Ryan Nelsen (Tottenham Hotspur; free)
Out:
Released: Danny Gabbidon, Fitz Hall, Danny shitetu, Peter Ramage, Gary Borrowdale, Lee Cook, Patrick Agyemang, Rowan Vine, Bruno Perone

READING
Manager: Brian McDermott
In: Gareth McCleary (Nottingham Forest; free transfer)
Out:
Released: Andy Griffin, Brian Howard, Tomasz Cywka, Cederic Baseya, Cameron Edwards, Ethan Gage, John Goddard, Simon Locke, Carl McHugh, Jack Mills, David Murphy, Frankie Raymond, Jacob Walcott

SOUTHAMPTON
Manager: Nigel Adkins
In: Jay Rodriguez (Burnley; undisclosed)
Out:
Released: David Connolly, Rhaidi Jaidi, Bartosz Bialkowski, Lee Holmes, Ryan Doble, Harlee Dean, Aarron Racine

STOKE CITY
Manager: Tony Pulis
In:
Out:
Released: Andrew Davies, Salif Diao, Ricardo Fuller, Louis Moult, Thomas Soares

SUNDERLAND
Manager: Martin O'Neill
In:
Out:
Released: Craig Gordon, Trevor Carson, Lewis King, Liam Bagnell, Jordan Lavender, James Brace, Brett Elliott, Jordan Cook, Oumare Tounkara

SWANSEA CITY
Manager: Position Vacant
In:
Out:
Released: Jose Moreira, Ferrie Bodde, Jordan Smith, Casey Thomas, Joseph Walsh

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
Manager: Harry Redknapp
In:
Out: Niko Kranjcar (Dynamo Kiev; undisclosed)
Released: Ryan Nelsen, Ledley King, Louis Saha, Ben Alnwick, Jesse Lassen, Oscar Jansson, Kudus Oyenuga, Mirko Ranieri

WEST BROMWICH ALBION
Manager: Steve Clarke
In:
Out: Joe Mattock (Preston North End; free)
Released: Nicky Shorey, Somen Tchoyi, Joe Mattock, Lateef Elford-Alliyu, Paul Scharner, Keith Andrews, Martin Fulop, Paul Downing, James Esge

WEST HAM UNITED
Manager: Sam Allardyce
In: Jussi Jaaskelainen (Bolton Wanderers; free)
Out:
Released: Abdoulaye Faye, John Carew, Papa Bouba Diop, Julien Faubert, Frank Nouble, Olly Lee

WIGAN ATHLETIC
Manager: Roberto Martinez
In:
Out:
Released: Hugo Rodallega, Hendry Thomas, Steve Gohuori, Mohamed Diame, Chris Kirkland, Mike Pollitt, Michael Girvan, Jonathan Breeze, Sean Myler, Jordan Robinson, Jordan Rugg




 
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CHELSEA are preparing a fresh £5m offer for Victor Moses after their opening bid was knocked back.

The Blues made the first move in the race to land the exciting Wigan forward, who is also a target for Liverpool and QPR.

But Wigan chairman Dave Whelan branded Chelsea’s offer – believed to be £4m – “rubbish” and accused the European champions of “taking the Mickey.”

And the Wigan chief warned the Blues it will take a much-improved offer to tempt Wigan to sell one of their big assets.

Moses, a star of Wigan’s successful battle against the drop last season, has just 12 months left on his contract.

Wigan offered the 21-year-old Nigeria international a new £20,000-a-week long-term deal.

But he has told them he wants to move and Starsport understands he is keen to seal a switch to Chelsea.

Wigan want £10m for a player they bought from Crystal Palace for just £2.5m in 2010.

Whelan said: “Chelsea would need to get realistic before we would even listen to them. The offer Chelsea have made is no good. It’s way too low. It’s rubbish. They made a bid and we turned it down flat.

“Roberto Martinez has brought this player on and he needs at least another year with Roberto to become a top player.

“We have offered him a new contract but it seems the agent, more than the player, wants to move him on. At least
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