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« Thread Started on May 6, 2012, 4:39pm » | |
Barton and Taraabt were both awesome today and the chemistry between them was great. They never gave up, even when the Stoke fans were singing '2-0 to Bolton'.
If anyone doubts how much it meant to them when Cisse scored, watch how Tarbs reacts - he was completely overwhelmed.
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« Reply #1 on May 6, 2012, 4:44pm » | |
Wasnt there, but Heard that Barton put in a massive shift today.
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« Reply #2 on May 6, 2012, 4:45pm » | |
Taarabt was good but don't agree with your thoughts on Barton I'm afraid
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« Reply #3 on May 6, 2012, 6:52pm » | |
Ian Taylor - lot of tweeps have been made to eat their words today ... @Joey7Barton man of the match by a mile. Different class #QPR
Thought he was not bad (except for shots)...But I thought Mackie and Taarabt were worthy of MOTM
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« Reply #4 on May 6, 2012, 7:22pm » | |
Thought Barton was great today. He led the team really well and he only had a few of his more ambitious passes go astray
Taarabt was superb, back to his best tricks-wise.
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« Reply #5 on May 6, 2012, 7:23pm » | |
Im really confused, agree about tarbs but barton was horrible out there today I thought!! Misplaced passes, horrible shooting, needless giving away freekicks...wow...
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« Reply #6 on May 6, 2012, 8:03pm » | |
Suppose we just have to hate on Barton today out of habit? He played well I thought, a few misplaced balls, and not playing it back to Zamora after taraabt free kick was poor. But on the whole he was solid.
Interesting thought on mackie as motm. He was relentless on the right, no matter how many times he got muscled and pushed around. Motor that won't quit.
Taraabt played great again, we are simply a better team with him in the lineup imo.
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« Reply #7 on May 6, 2012, 8:14pm » | |
Think Taarabt after a rocky first half to the season has proven himself. Whether at QPR or somewhere else, he's shown himself to be a Premiership Star/Quality Player
(It's also helped now that Barton doesnt take the corners and free kicks!)
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« Reply #8 on May 6, 2012, 8:15pm » | |
I thought Barton was superb.
He gave up on nothing & led by example. There were times when his work was relentless & dragged other players along with himwhen they were sagging.
Agreed he should have laid the ball back to Zamora but I expect his eyes lit up thinking he would score.
The defence today nearly didn't make an error & Adel definitely performed.
Disagree with Mac about Jamie Mackie. I thought that was his worst game this season.
Also SWP & Bothroyd didn't have long on the pitch but both of them gave their all. We can't ask more than that.
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« Reply #9 on May 6, 2012, 8:18pm » | |
Thought Buzz and Zamora had poor games though.
Hill and Ferdinand were absolutely brilliant, especially when you note that Stoke had 4 strikers on the pitch. Taiwo had a slow start with a few mis-controls and he slipped over a few times but he got into the game pretty quickly. That was probably Onouha's best game for us.
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« Reply #10 on May 6, 2012, 9:02pm » | |
Can't see Zamora having a future with us. He really has not impressed me greatly.
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« Reply #11 on May 6, 2012, 9:04pm via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
May 6, 2012, 9:02pm, gramps wrote:| Can't see Zamora having a future with us. He really has not impressed me greatly. |
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Same here
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« Reply #12 on May 6, 2012, 9:58pm » | |
May 6, 2012, 9:02pm, gramps wrote:| Can't see Zamora having a future with us. He really has not impressed me greatly. |
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Completely disagree in my opinion. He was at the heart of a ton of our best play in the first half. He's not the threat to score like Cisse is (though Barton should've squared the ball back), but he brings so many players into the play, moves so intelligently and is a legitimate target man.
Cisse had about 15 seconds of relevance in the second half, and was mostly anonymous otherwise. Of course, he did what we paid him to do, score goals.
Zamora's cross should've been nodded home by Barton, a play Bobby created out of nothing. He maintained possession in the final third and squared the ball for Barton and Taarabt to take good chances at the edge of the box.
Thought we looked our best with the 4-5-1 and Zamora doing the dirty work up front. He's not a 20-goal a season striker, but that's not his role.
And then compared to Mackie -- who lost possession for the team in the attacking third at least a half-dozen times with his aimless, mindless runs on the wing (get a left foot Mackie!) -- I think it was Zamora's hold up play that was the glue for most of our best spells of the game
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« Reply #13 on May 6, 2012, 10:08pm via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
Disagree with you Lofty, thought he was very lazy today. He lost most of his battles in the air.
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| | Re: Barton & Taraabt
« Reply #14 on May 6, 2012, 10:31pm » | |
No matter what the opinions, good bad not so good. The chemistry and the substitions proved the
points we were trying to make on why the inconsistencies. they stormed the barricades for last 15 mins and really WANTED to win. Its the team that wins matches.
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« Reply #15 on May 6, 2012, 10:37pm » | |
Taarbs showing why you never sell your best players, form is temporary.........
Barton, hand on heart, has been better than first 3/4 of the season but certainly not worth the money he is paid. As for the treachery/tweets/Warnock bashing, still have not forgiven him and stand by what i said before we signed him. 
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« Reply #16 on May 6, 2012, 10:45pm » | |
Bit harsh on Zamora! Stoke are a basketball team so losing balls in the air as a lone striker is not a surprise. He will still be there next season and will become a cult hero, mark my words!!!
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« Reply #17 on May 6, 2012, 10:46pm » | |
May 6, 2012, 9:58pm, lofty wrote:
And then compared to Mackie -- who lost possession for the team in the attacking third at least a half-dozen times with his aimless, mindless runs on the wing (get a left foot Mackie!) -- I think it was Zamora's hold up play that was the glue for most of our best spells of the game |
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mackie has been our best player all season, and he gets coated for not performing?
how many times has he made the difference in the games we have won?
lots...thats the answer.
aimless.....mindless? i really despair sometimes.
he will save us
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« Reply #18 on May 6, 2012, 10:49pm » | |
Maudes. Very true. Never underestimated him. Every side needs a 'run after every ball' sort of player but in the last few weeks he has become more than that. Honestly believe we have the makings of a good premier league team for next season, should we get the results next week.
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« Reply #19 on May 6, 2012, 10:55pm » | |
May 6, 2012, 10:46pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:
May 6, 2012, 9:58pm, lofty wrote:
And then compared to Mackie -- who lost possession for the team in the attacking third at least a half-dozen times with his aimless, mindless runs on the wing (get a left foot Mackie!) -- I think it was Zamora's hold up play that was the glue for most of our best spells of the game |
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mackie has been our best player all season, and he gets coated for not performing?
how many times has he made the difference in the games we have won?
lots...thats the answer.
aimless.....mindless? i really despair sometimes.
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Agree Maude, belter of a season he has had and he never gives up,my player of the year, however i still think he could be an incredibly effective 'super-sub' who could cause no end of problems coming on for defences with his directness.
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« Reply #20 on May 6, 2012, 11:24pm » | |
also huth man marked mackie, he took a lot of hits but kept going, huth is no clown.
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« Reply #21 on May 6, 2012, 11:32pm » | |
Barton was excellent and was all over the pitch, Adel was superb. Can anyone tell me if their is any purpose to Akos Buzsaky?? Hughes seems to like him but I think he is poor. Diakite is 20 times the player Akos will ever be.
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« Reply #22 on May 6, 2012, 11:43pm » | |
i think barton played a captains game today and was on the whole
effective,
he is not everyones cup of tea and therefroe will get some stick
here , there or anywhere else but he has been better the last month
or so and with a bit of luck could have had a goal today , at least
he is getting in to some nice positions which is good to see .
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« Reply #23 on May 6, 2012, 11:56pm » | |
In my defence I have NOTHING against barton at all, couldn't beleive some of the abuse he's been getting this season from r's fans...however i really thought he was poor today and seeing the match again on sky hasn't changed my mind! He's played much, much better than that. Still we scraped a win, cisse if that goal keeps us up you have made up for your 2 reds 10 fold!
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« Reply #24 on May 7, 2012, 5:55am » | |
May 6, 2012, 10:46pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:
May 6, 2012, 9:58pm, lofty wrote:
And then compared to Mackie -- who lost possession for the team in the attacking third at least a half-dozen times with his aimless, mindless runs on the wing (get a left foot Mackie!) -- I think it was Zamora's hold up play that was the glue for most of our best spells of the game |
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mackie has been our best player all season, and he gets coated for not performing?
how many times has he made the difference in the games we have won?
lots...thats the answer.
aimless.....mindless? i really despair sometimes.
he will save us |
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I've been highly pro-Mackie most of the season, but his game against Stoke was one of his worst this year. He got in some good positions but lost the ball more than maybe anyone else on the team. And should've done a lot better when put through on goal from Taarabt - he was out-muscled then with a bit of a push and couldn't close down on the ball. The announcers got that one wrong, it was a perfectly weighted ball for his run.
Re: aimless runs -- how many times, particularly in the second half, did Mackie get the ball in the attacking third and try to take on the fullback? Running with his head down, going to his right foot every time, he lost the ball loads of times in successive sessions doing just this.
EDIT: I will also add that obviously without Mackie's contributions this season, we'd be relegated. There's no question about that. And some of his heroics this season are genuinely legendary. But there isn't a player on this team that isn't prone to a bad performance from time to time
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« Reply #25 on May 7, 2012, 5:58am » | |
May 6, 2012, 10:08pm, RoryTheRanger wrote:| Disagree with you Lofty, thought he was very lazy today. He lost most of his battles in the air. |
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Lazy!? Didn't see that at all -- he was up against the biggest and strongest backline we've played all season. He struggled in the first 20odd minutes winning head balls but got in better positions as the game went on. Like winning that free kick in the 2nd half right on the edge of the box that Taiwo bottled.
And just compared to Cisse (or Bothroyd), watch how he defends -- always working. He's probably the best defensive striker we've had for a while. Truly 11 men behind the ball with him.. Zamora has his flaws, but I don't think laziness is one of them
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May 7, 2012, 5:58am, lofty wrote:
May 6, 2012, 10:08pm, RoryTheRanger wrote:| Disagree with you Lofty, thought he was very lazy today. He lost most of his battles in the air. |
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Lazy!? Didn't see that at all -- he was up against the biggest and strongest backline we've played all season. He struggled in the first 20odd minutes winning head balls but got in better positions as the game went on. Like winning that free kick in the 2nd half right on the edge of the box that Taiwo bottled.
And just compared to Cisse (or Bothroyd), watch how he defends -- always working. He's probably the best defensive striker we've had for a while. Truly 11 men behind the ball with him.. Zamora has his flaws, but I don't think laziness is one of them |
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I noticed several occasions where he just didn't bother going for the ball. On his own up front doesn't work, he needs a striker with him.
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« Reply #27 on May 7, 2012, 2:57pm » | |
Agreed with Maude & others
Mackie has been high profile upfront in past 10 games, his game gets shut down with Barton playing stupid passes to the side line and that's not Mackies best position. Mackie deserves to wear the shirt imo and deserves a more forward role were he can run 'aimlessly' and create the havoc he does : )
Onouha so stong on the ball ... should be played more in the centre midfield and his talents have been lost playing behind Barton.
Cisse (great player) makes me wonder how many goals he would of had by now if he hadn't been sent off.
Barton - Same old and 2 thirds of the season destroyed by his poor distribution and this last third (since him being booed) has been marginally better. Saturday he was ok in a poor match. He irrates the shite out of me as leaves holes in the midfield from being constantly out of position.
Rates himself far beyond his ability ....
Times up now and get rid off - his affect as club captain reflects in a our league position.
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« Reply #28 on May 7, 2012, 10:33pm » | |
Mackie definitely would be better in a more central position, maybe in a 4-4-1-1 playing just off the target man (Zamora).
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« Reply #29 on May 7, 2012, 10:52pm » | |
still cant get over 'aimless and mindless'
he was man marked by a centre back v stoke, and a bloody good centre back at that.
i agree though that he is best when in the middle, but still....he always looks to cut inside when on the wing, and not always running for the line
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