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Two Premier Leagues - And Almost Closed Shop? Apr 19, 2009 9:16:37 GMT

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Post by QPR Report on Apr 19, 2009 9:16:37 GMT

If true, not right to do. The whole idea of a meritocracy - in which teams, no matter how rich or down, go up and down based on how they do: THAT is what makes it really interesting.Sunday Mirror

Football bosses plan two Premier Leagues in revolution of the English game EXCLUSIVE by Paul Smith 18/04/2009

Plans for a Premier League second division that would revolutionise English football have been drawn up.

Bolton’s Phil Gartside, one of the longest-serving chairmen in the top flight and an influential member of the Football Association’s board, has put together a blueprint that is being circulated among key figures within the game.

They include the current Premier League chairman Dave Richards, who sees merit in the proposals.

Sunday Mirror Sport has been given a full briefing on the document, which is being backed by at least seven Premier League clubs as well as key Football League clubs who are keen to be part of the new breakaway.

A prominent Championship chairman, whose club have been in the Premier League, said: “Given the severe financial restraints in the Football League it would be madness not to consider the proposals.

“The considerable wealth of Premier League clubs shows no sign of subsiding.

“The Football League clubs are poor by comparison.”

Gartside’s blueprint proposes two Premier League divisions, each of 18 teams.

There would be promotion and relegation of two clubs between the divisions.

There would also be one club relegated from Premier League 2 to be replaced by a club from the Football League.

Perhaps most controversial of all is the idea of inviting two Scottish clubs to join Premier League 2. The clubs are not named but would be Glasgow giants Rangers and Celtic.

In the past, both Scottish clubs have expressed a wish to join the English Premier League bandwagon. With the top flight reduced from 20 clubs, there’s also a proposal for a winter break.

And in a move that will alarm the FA and Football League - who have their own knock-out competitions – there would be the introduction of a new Premier League knock-out cup

www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/04/18/no-headline-115875-21288238/

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Two Premier Leagues - And Almost Closed Shop? Apr 19, 2009 9:29:35 GMT

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Post by blockhead on Apr 19, 2009 9:29:35 GMT

If this or a form of it takes off, I could foresee a situation that players would be so expensive that other clubs outside the league could not afford them therefore the 'league' would have to contract them and distribute them in a 'draft' before each season NFL style.

But that fits in with the P.L. plan to play games abroad that was floated last season.

I think this would suit the big four with another two from up north down to the ground.

When and not if!

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Two Premier Leagues - And Almost Closed Shop? Apr 19, 2009 9:47:32 GMT

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Post by QPR Report on Apr 19, 2009 9:47:32 GMT

"Logically" - (From the point of TV), we don't "NEED" all these "minor" 3rd and 4th Division teams. So screw em. "I'm all right Jack" -
- But as I said the fact that Wimbledon can come from the non-League to the Premiership - and beat Man Ut and Chelsea and Liverpool -That is part of the true excitement of English football

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Two Premier Leagues - And Almost Closed Shop? Apr 19, 2009 9:55:40 GMT

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Post by blockhead on Apr 19, 2009 9:55:40 GMT

the next development will be the election of 'A' teams to the conference and div two- to replace clubs that have wound up, that should see to the likes of Wimbledon and make sure that I cant happen again!

[evil laughter] ;D

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Two Premier Leagues - And Almost Closed Shop? Apr 19, 2009 11:26:20 GMT

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Post by ingham on Apr 19, 2009 11:26:20 GMT

Having replaced the the incomparable Football League with the pathetic, one-club shambles of the Premiership, these clowns now propose to extend its baleful loss-making debt-ridden malevolence to the second tier.

Once upon a time Clubs came from the second tier to win the League itself, such was the competitiveness of English football. Now perennial also-rans like Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea can't even rise from second place to dethrone Ferguson, who can and regularly does take all of them with one hand behind his back.

Still, it will encourage the 'investors', I suppose.

We can be in the Premier League even without winning promotion. Put ticket prices up to £1400. Announce record sales - of several dozen tickets - 5 or more years in advance. Reduce the stadium to celebrity seats only. Empty, of course, to allow more legroom. And replace the rest of the Ground with an even bigger badge. With the Club's name - B-R-I-A-T-O-R-E - picked out in Bronze, Silver and Gold.

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Two Premier Leagues - And Almost Closed Shop? Apr 19, 2009 11:38:43 GMT

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Post by QPR Report on Apr 19, 2009 11:38:43 GMT

And theoretically at least, all owners could be "winners" by making a profit - even if only one or two teams ever win anything.

And while fans recognize that the money has to come from somewhere, I'm sure we'd all accept a smaller profit if it meant winning things. So fans and owners ultimately have different interests and priorities.

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Two Premier Leagues - And Almost Closed Shop? Apr 19, 2009 12:42:17 GMT

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Post by ingham on Apr 19, 2009 12:42:17 GMT

But what's the point, Report? Are the big Clubs going to share Premiership money out more evenly? I don't think so. Will the 'top' matches be pushed aside to show second tier games? Great. But I doubt it.

And I certainly don't want Celtic and Rangers in English football. Identified as they are historically with Scottish and Irish sectarianism. We have catholics and protestants in England, and I'd hate to see any vestige of English supporters following Scottish clubs for religious reasons.

Scottish football is a joke because Celtic and Rangers are far too big, and English football has already gone too far down that road already with the mini-Champions League elite in our top division.

I wouldn't mind seeing Celtic, Rangers, United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Emirates-Arsenal dumped offshore somewhere to compete in the Corporate Cup with Mitsubishi and Real Madrid.

Then we could get on with the English club football I enjoy.

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Two Premier Leagues - And Almost Closed Shop? Apr 19, 2009 12:46:15 GMT

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Post by QPR Report on Apr 19, 2009 12:46:15 GMT

"What's the point?" Maybe different people have different agendas/goals:

If Mr XXXXX owns club ZZZZZZ . And the club finishes 19th every season. But he still makes a profit every season. Then he could well be happy - even if the fans are not.

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