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« Reply #180 on May 24, 2012, 9:33pm » | |
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« Reply #181 on May 24, 2012, 9:35pm » | |
the osc are also looking into why cpr never buys scarlet a drink.
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« Reply #183 on May 24, 2012, 9:42pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 9:35pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:| the osc are also looking into why cpr never buys scarlet a drink. |
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« Reply #184 on May 24, 2012, 9:54pm » | |
The decision to make the lower loft the family area was made by Briatore 3 years ago so blaming TF is only fair if you accept that he is simply completing what was already club policy.
But if the OSC can gather a concensus that the lower loft is the wrong place and take that to the club then so be it.
The problem is though that in order to have a family area, and we definitely need one, then some fans are going to have to move to accommodate it no matter where it goes. Maybe a small number of fans needing to move from the lower loft is the lesser of several evils.
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« Reply #185 on May 24, 2012, 10:10pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 9:54pm, blatantfowl wrote:The decision to make the lower loft the family area was made by Briatore 3 years ago so blaming TF is only fair if you accept that he is simply completing what was already club policy.
But if the OSC can gather a concensus that the lower loft is the wrong place and take that to the club then so be it.
The problem is though that in order to have a family area, and we definitely need one, then some fans are going to have to move to accommodate it no matter where it goes. Maybe a small number of fans needing to move from the lower loft is the lesser of several evils.
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maybe not blatant,
a lot of qpr support see the need to make the loft as our staunch home end, as it was . to bring the r block in ellerslie to the loft would see a massive vocal rise behind the goal.
kids like the r block, and it has unrestricted views, unlike the next block along where stantions are in the way and it costs more to sit!
but would rblock like this? this is aimed at our vocal support.
pm me or just post on here, the osc NEED your feedback. 
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« Reply #186 on May 24, 2012, 10:16pm » | |
I feel the fans in Lower Loft have good reason to be pissed off. So should all fans. Not only could it have happened anywhere within the ground, As LLG says it could spoil the atmosphere during matches. A lot of the vocals come from and starts from the Loft. This season has shown how important it is to have the right atmosphere at home.
I also think if people have been season ticket holders for say more than 5 years and are forced to move and end up in the gold section. Then I think they should be allowed to pay for their new Gold Season ticket at Silver prices for as they keep that seat. Or at very least they pay the subsidised rate for the same amount of time they held a season ticket in the Lower Loft ie if they have been a season ticket holder of 10 years then they can have the reduced rate for the next ten years. Giving them the reduced rate for the next year isn't much of an incentive.
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« Reply #187 on May 24, 2012, 10:18pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 10:16pm, superckat wrote:I feel the fans in Lower Loft have good reason to be pissed off. So should all fans. Not only could it have happened anywhere within the ground, As LLG says it could spoil the atmosphere during matches. A lot of the vocals come from and starts from the Loft. This season has shown how important it is to have the right atmosphere at home.
I also think if people have been season ticket holders for say more than 5 years and are forced to move and end up in the gold section. Then I think they should be allowed to pay for their new Gold Season ticket at Silver prices for as they keep that seat. Or at very least they pay the subsidised rate for the same amount of time they held a season ticket in the Lower Loft ie if they have been a season ticket holder of 10 years then they can have the reduced rate for the next ten years. Giving them the reduced rate for the next year isn't much of an incentive. |
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Good idea and very fair, I think
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« Reply #188 on May 24, 2012, 10:20pm » | |
Sounds like an ideal compromise Maude, using R block preserves the status of the loft....just need the R blockers to make the sacrifice and move to the loft and the for the loft to welcome their displaced R block fellow fans.
But I don't agree on needing to compensate those that move for years to come. In time, all things change and it's better to embrace it. After all, like Rory said earlier, in a few years the new stadium will change it all again anyway...
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« Reply #189 on May 24, 2012, 10:53pm » | |
The Loft was where it started not in some poxy corner of the ground.
Get it back behind the goal, where it had always been.
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« Reply #190 on May 25, 2012, 7:56am » | |
May 24, 2012, 10:53pm, Bushman wrote:The Loft was where it started not in some poxy corner of the ground.
Get it back behind the goal, where it had always been.
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Now that is right on.
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« Reply #191 on May 25, 2012, 10:33am » | |
May 24, 2012, 9:42pm, Bushman wrote:
May 24, 2012, 9:35pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:| the osc are also looking into why cpr never buys scarlet a drink. |
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Seconded.........
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« Reply #192 on May 25, 2012, 1:39pm » | |
We have double checked ourselves and with the helpdesk and the system is
> not allowing those without juniors to book their existing seats.
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> Yes we can have a look at the best available seats and arrange a viewing
> when you come to the Box Office.
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> QPR Holdings Limited
Thank you for getting back to me again. I can assure you that some people
have renewed. I look forward to seeing you in the near future in regard to
assisting my group relocate TOGETHER. But for the record I again wish to
state how badly this whole thing has been carried out, for all the very
good things you have done Mr Fernandes, this is completely wrong, the
lower loft is no place for a proper family stand, and what does it say to
all the families that are now being displaced from there, thought we were
a family club !!!!!
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« Reply #193 on May 25, 2012, 1:51pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 9:35pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:| the osc are also looking into why cpr never buys scarlet a drink. |
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« Reply #194 on May 25, 2012, 5:34pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 10:53pm, Bushman wrote:The Loft was where it started not in some poxy corner of the ground.
Get it back behind the goal, where it had always been.
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Would seem the best solution all round
The biggest vocal support back where it should be in the Loft, family section in R block under cover and away from 'gobby' away fans
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« Reply #195 on May 29, 2012, 7:15am » | |
This is QPR1st's Statement from yesterday
QPR1st
Season Tickets and the Family Stand
Published May 28, 2012
QPR1st is pleased that prices for existing season ticket holders wishing to renew have not been increased. We urge the Club to publish the cost of new season tickets immediately for sake of clarity and transparency as it is not presently obvious if these will be the same price as renewals or different.
We also sympathise with the club’s ambition to create a family stand in the Lower Loft and acknowledge that the aim is to create an environment that will encourage families and a new generation of QPR supporters.
It is disappointing that this initiative comes at the cost of moving fans that have had seats in that area for many years. Supporters build an emotional relationship with their part of the ground and the people who they watch with: they are more than just seats in a sports stadium
We ask the club to reconsider this policy and request that fans are only asked to move on a voluntary basis to reduce upset and resentment created between fans and club. The trust will support the club in having a vigorous behaviour policy in the stand to ensure an atmosphere that is conducive to attracting families to QPR.
http://www.qpr1st.com/news/season-tickets-and-the-family-stand/
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« Reply #196 on May 29, 2012, 9:05am » | |
The problem is wherever we put the family stand, people will still have to move.
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« Reply #197 on May 29, 2012, 12:59pm » | |
This is the second time in a few years that fans have been moved out from their seats, the first time was for greed, the second is just stupid.
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« Reply #198 on May 31, 2012, 9:07am » | |
Paul Warburton/FUlham Chronicle
QPR fans fume over season tickets
May 31 2012
HUNDREDS of QPR fans are bitterly disappointed after being forced to give up their season tickets in the lower Loft at Loftus Road.
Instead, the club intends to make the stand behind one of the goals an exclusive family area at the expense of stalwarts – some of whom have sat in the same seat for 20 years.
Peter Gates from West Kensington was just one of several contacting Chronicle Sport to complain.
“Rangers are my club and I don’t want to knock them – but I don’t think they’ve thought this through," he said.
“Why not make the Ellerslie Road stand for families?
“There are families, friends who have sat in the lower Loft for years who are being told to sit elsewhere – and I don’t want to.”
Fan Paul Greenhill added: “There is already talk of the family stand open to abuse with borrowed birth certificates being in order to qualify as ‘family’.”
Stuart Bilbe said: “The club have offered to sell us a gold rated season ticket at the price of a silver – but I’m told we would have to make up the difference the season after this.”
However, the club insist a family friendly lower Loft is the future.
A spokesman said: “We are a family club and that's how we have positioned ourselves for many years, and even more so since the takeover last summer.
“This is not a decision we've taken lightly or indeed quickly. It’s a progression from a decision we took a couple of years ago to try and fill that specific area of the ground with young families, who are the life and soul of our supporter base and our future for many years to come.
“We have had a few isolated incidents in the family stand over the last few years, mainly foul and abusive language, which have highlighted the need for change in this area.”
http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/london-....#ixzz1wR7ksB gY
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« Reply #199 on May 31, 2012, 9:37am » | |
I'm getting slightly bored of all this about the Lower Loft. It's been the family area for about 3 years now and the old owners never bothered to enforce it. No matter where they put the Family area, fans will have to move from their seats who may have been sitting there for years. It's a no win situation for the club.
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« Reply #200 on May 31, 2012, 4:41pm » | |
Some one ask me if the osc were consulted on this
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« Reply #201 on May 31, 2012, 4:57pm » | |
May 31, 2012, 4:41pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:| Some one ask me if the osc were consulted on this |
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Were the osc were consulted on this 
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« Reply #202 on May 31, 2012, 5:01pm » | |
May 31, 2012, 4:57pm, Jon Doeman wrote:
May 31, 2012, 4:41pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:| Some one ask me if the osc were consulted on this |
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Were the osc were consulted on this |
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No we bloody weren't
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« Reply #203 on May 31, 2012, 5:02pm » | |
Thanks jon
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« Reply #204 on May 31, 2012, 5:29pm » | |
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Not much point in having the OSC if the club are not going to consult it on matters such as this.
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« Reply #205 on May 31, 2012, 5:48pm » | |
the question is will the new family section get sold out for every home game?
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« Reply #206 on May 31, 2012, 7:38pm » | |
Hi all, quick update, a group of us representing 9 potentially 14 season ticket holders whom this affects in the lower loft went to the club on monday. After having been shown to possible seating in the elles' and upper loft, it became clear very quickly that a number of problems arose, one, but the most important was that a number of the group could not actually fit in the seats, elles' has far tighter seats than the lower loft, and the upper loft was smaller still. These fans have nowhere else they can sit. The lower loft was designed back in the day to have far more leg and side room following requests by the taller / wider supporter, and for that reason many fans choose to sit there. In short we have at this stage chosen not to renew our season tickets, a dialogue has now been opened with Phil Beard, and we await his reply. As soon as this happens I will post more details of our position and the clubs reply. I will add that while at the club we met many other angry and shocked fans at the poor decision by the club. This must be reversed !
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« Reply #207 on May 31, 2012, 8:14pm » | |
Hi there lowerloftgirl, its good to see you sticking up for what you think is right, but not renewing for me is cutting off your nose to spite your face, the reason i say this is because you and your friends are denying yourselves something you love, if you come this season as a walk up supporter your just giving the club more cash(not such a bad thing) whilst no doubt those 9 season tickets will be sold anyway to some other fans, your best off buying your tickets and carrying on supporting the lads, they need your support.
boycotting serves no real solution to the situation as you will be the one that ends up losing out, i know it has made you angry it would me being basically turfed out from there, but the way i also see it is we all may have to get used to the idea of moving if they build a new stadium, better to stick around and enjoy the clubs good times than cut loose and wish you were there.
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« Reply #208 on May 31, 2012, 8:18pm » | |
Not sure family area is as said on the tin! We are premier league and people buy tickets to see where they can sit together ! Just saying
Waiting till my girls are in teens before I take to a hoops game as would maybe put her off before!
Shame.. Would love to take her, she's 9
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« Reply #209 on May 31, 2012, 8:34pm » | |
May 31, 2012, 8:18pm, gladstoneparkrange wrote:Not sure family area is as said on the tin! We are premier league and people buy tickets to see where they can sit together ! Just saying
Waiting till my girls are in teens before I take to a hoops game as would maybe put her off before!
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Why are you questioning taking your 9 year old to footie? there are loads of younger kids going, she will love it and your worrys will be a thing of the past, a friend of the family's 9 year old plays for QPR girls and they get complimentry tickets for every home game and she loves it.
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