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« Reply #150 on May 22, 2012, 5:01pm » | |
May 22, 2012, 4:55pm, Jon Doeman wrote:
May 22, 2012, 4:34pm, harlowranger wrote:
Appears TF might be getting a bit fed up with fans tweeting they don't like kits,don't like Changes in the stadium by his latest tweets?
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Only a few, not most.
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« Reply #151 on May 22, 2012, 5:12pm » | |
i really do get p1ssed off at fans tweeting, i want this i want that, i dont like orange i dont like collars, 40.000 sear stadium is to big its to small,
let them do there job and lets put input into things that need sorting now . if i were tf i would of said sod you lot by now you moaning bunch of whingers ![[image]](http://images.proboards.com/new/smiley.png "[image]")
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« Reply #152 on May 22, 2012, 5:14pm » | |
It was a different era - pre twitter - but some may recall how BP as Chairman used to post on the boards and used to get attacked.
And with Twitter, it's much, much simpler. Direct from the poster to the recipient. (Although I don't understand how TF has time to read all those tweets)
Flavio of course Knew How to treat fans!
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« Reply #153 on May 22, 2012, 5:22pm » | |
The OSC ought to be the only true channel for the supporters to influence club policy. TF cannot be daft enough to put weight behind the wishes of random twitterers. They could be Chelsea fans for all he knows.
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« Reply #154 on May 22, 2012, 5:23pm » | |
briatore has left us a load of mess that he swept under the carpet to deal with. we should sort this first.
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« Reply #155 on May 22, 2012, 6:12pm » | |
RT @LozzaLopez: @tonyfernandes personally I'm v.grateful for the ST freeze.I sat lower loft last season but delighted I can upgrade to gold for same price
A Tweet by @tonyfernandes
2012-05-22
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« Reply #156 on May 22, 2012, 9:40pm » | |
May 22, 2012, 5:14pm, Macmoish wrote:It was a different era - pre twitter - but some may recall how BP as Chairman used to post on the boards and used to get attacked.
And with Twitter, it's much, much simpler. Direct from the poster to the recipient. (Although I don't understand how TF has time to read all those tweets)
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Give Flavio his dues, he was the original twit, before they added "ter."
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« Reply #157 on May 24, 2012, 3:06pm » | |
An open response to Tony Fernandes, Amit Bhatia, and Phil Beard,
This is simply wrong ! No discussion, no warning, nothing, just like a
polictical party sneaking out the bad stuff under the cover of the good
news and hoping no one would notice. Like a dictatorship, even briatore
understood keeping the lower loft a mixed stand. You can not, and have no
right to just throw loyal supporters out of their seats like this,
Supporters like myself and many others around me who have stood and sat in
the same place for decades, through good and very many bad times. Tell me
how many families with under 8's will turn up at midweek games, winter
nights, and against foes like chelsea, west ham etc, and how many were
there against vauxhall motors  ?? I'll tell you, very very few. The loft
has always been the vocal lung of the stadium, the home end. Your stupid
dicision announced via twitter will kill the stadiums voice. The
lower loft is obviously the wrong place for a family stand, anyone would
have told you that, if you had bothered to ask. And where do you plan to
put all these displaced friends and families with no under 8's in their
groups ? Surely you must realise that the great displaced will want to sit
together in their previous groups, how will you accommodate this ? And
will those already in the relocated areas want the groups of the great
unwashed moved there ? Everyone I have spoken to about this are
disgusted, and in shock at this very ill thought out idea. I'm sure there
will be 100's / 1000's complaining to you in the next few days as this
news creeps out. I strongly ask you to stop and reverse this action before
it is to late, you are simply hurting to many people, and creating a
nightmare.
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« Reply #158 on May 24, 2012, 3:14pm » | |
hear hear lowerloftgirl - Poor decision by the club.
It's like they are trying to re-design something that doesn't need it... listen to the fans TF
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« Reply #159 on May 24, 2012, 3:23pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 3:14pm, Floridar wrote:hear hear lowerloftgirl - Poor decision by the club.
It's like they are trying to re-design something that doesn't need it... listen to the fans TF
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Agree - worst place to put a family stand. Just means more unnecessary hassling of people in the surrounding area to "police" behaviour. Means that loyal fans who form the basis of the loft being the HOME END will be turfed out, their noise distributed around the ground in a useless way (i.e. it works in blocks, most people don't just want to stand and sing on their own).
Presume we should be getting some contact soon from the Supporter's Trust/OSC regarding this? You can't make a cohesive argument on twitter, opinions needed to be collected up and delivered to the club.
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« Reply #160 on May 24, 2012, 3:42pm » | |
Hi,
It has been brought to my attention that a number of people have renewed
today with no problem, in their original seats, no under 8's, and qpr
comfirmation emails recieved. WHAT IS GOING ON ?
I will be coming to the box office very soon to discuss matters face to
face, in the meantime please start thinking about where you are going to
move my group of 10 people, because we have no intention of being
seperated ! What an utter mess all this is, disgracful !
Original reply from box office to my post above .............. follows
> We have passed on your email.
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> Unfortunately they still maintain that any adult without a junior in the
> Lower Loft will have to find alternative seats.
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> Please let us know the best number to reach you on to discuss the best
> available seats.
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> Kind Regards,
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> Box Office
> QPR Holdings Limited
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« Reply #161 on May 24, 2012, 4:46pm » | |
I'm getting slightly bored of this now. Obviously I am not in the position of being moved but I can't believe some fans are having a go at TF for it. WHen we get a news stadium are you going to complain about moving seats then as well?? The Lower Loft is a family area, has been for 3 years now so really this should have happened 3 years ago.
And to the person above who said 'listen to the fans Tony', well he sure has done a lot of that so far. He's already lowered the ticket prices last season, promised us to that he will look into changing the badge, promised us hoops for all three kits and a comeback for Dennis the Menace. Not only that but he is also pouring money into the club with new players and a new training ground.
Rant over.
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« Reply #162 on May 24, 2012, 5:21pm » | |
Well Rory, I am in the Upper Loft so it has no effect on me.
However, I'm sure that I would be very upset if I had suddenly been told (without prior warning) that I had to move to a different part of the ground.
I believe that the wretched old regime did invite ST holders in SA Road that had to move to visit the ground & were personally shown alternative seats. This did not make the move any better but at least it showed some consideration of the supporters involved.
I do not have any solution to the problem but I don't want any of us to face another summer of discontent.
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« Reply #163 on May 24, 2012, 5:22pm » | |
Fair point Terry, they should have at least warned them before hand but still there is always something to moan about with QPR.
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« Reply #164 on May 24, 2012, 6:13pm » | |
Its all well and good forcing people out of there seats and telling them they can upgrade to gold without extra cost.
So where do they relocate to?? all seats in nu around me for as far as i can see are taken and nu is not as good as other blocks in the upper loft so they will be taken as well........that leaves restricted view seats at the back.....poor very poor.
Ellerslie has been full for nearly every game with a good number of st holders as has sar.
Make Lower loft non family stand and find some where else for them.
Kids should be under cover anyway.
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« Reply #165 on May 24, 2012, 6:37pm » | |
Ellerslie has had seats available to the general public for all the games in the past season. It should not be a problem to relocate.
I do however sympathise with loftgirl and her group.
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« Reply #166 on May 24, 2012, 6:45pm » | |
The family area idea needs to be looked at though as I can't think of many places in LR where it would be best situated. Lower loft is not where it should be, same with lower school end.
Think the best place for it is the paddocks maybe??
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« Reply #167 on May 24, 2012, 6:58pm » | |
I agree that the Lower Loft is not the ideal area for the Family Area.
However, re-locating it would give the club the same problem. Why should supporters in the Paddocks or from, say, T&U blocks (just an example) in the Ellerslie be forced to move to accomodate them?
The only place I could come up with is the Lower School End & that would be a long way from being perfect.
I also think that the club may be over estimating the number of supporters who would use the family stand. They would have real problems in selling out the Lower Loft if it is families only.
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« Reply #168 on May 24, 2012, 6:58pm via the ProBoards Mobile App » | |
The Paddocks are not the answer , it needs to be somewhere that has sufficient cover against the elements. I watched the Stoke game in the school end and felt this is by far the best seating area for families , there is plenty of leg room and all the seats are sheltered from the elements . That is where I would put the families.
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« Reply #169 on May 24, 2012, 7:04pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 6:58pm, kempton ranger wrote:| The Paddocks are not the answer , it needs to be somewhere that has sufficient cover against the elements. I watched the Stoke game in the school end and felt this is by far the best seating area for families , there is plenty of leg room and all the seats are sheltered from the elements . That is where I would put the families. |
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Bad idea IMO, shouldn't put the family's right underneath the away fans. If their's trouble after or before a game then the family area would be the closest to the away fans.
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« Reply #170 on May 24, 2012, 7:17pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 6:58pm, kempton ranger wrote:| The Paddocks are not the answer , it needs to be somewhere that has sufficient cover against the elements. I watched the Stoke game in the school end and felt this is by far the best seating area for families , there is plenty of leg room and all the seats are sheltered from the elements . That is where I would put the families. |
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Not being funny kempton but i grew up watching the Rangers in the elements standing on the terraces like a lot of us on here and it did not put us off.
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« Reply #171 on May 24, 2012, 7:19pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 7:17pm, Bushman wrote:
May 24, 2012, 6:58pm, kempton ranger wrote:| The Paddocks are not the answer , it needs to be somewhere that has sufficient cover against the elements. I watched the Stoke game in the school end and felt this is by far the best seating area for families , there is plenty of leg room and all the seats are sheltered from the elements . That is where I would put the families. |
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Not being funny kempton but i grew up watching the Rangers in the elements standing on the terraces like a lot of us on here and it did not put us off.
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exactly, these kids need to man up a bit! 
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« Reply #172 on May 24, 2012, 7:21pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 7:19pm, Jon Doeman wrote:
May 24, 2012, 7:17pm, Bushman wrote:
Not being funny kempton but i grew up watching the Rangers in the elements standing on the terraces like a lot of us on here and it did not put us off.
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exactly, these kids need to man up a bit! |
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Don't you mean the parents. 
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« Reply #173 on May 24, 2012, 7:34pm » | |
If they hurry up a bit with a new stadium then they can plan where to put the family area...........bet they put it behind the home goal end again...... ![[image]](http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss147/hwallen/Animated/mad.gif "[image]")
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« Reply #175 on May 24, 2012, 7:49pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 7:45pm, Bushman wrote:
May 24, 2012, 7:34pm, scarletpimple wrote:| If they hurry up a bit with a new stadium then they can plan where to put the family area...........bet they put it behind the home goal end again...... |
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Makes you wonder...........
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« Reply #176 on May 24, 2012, 8:06pm » | |
this is high on the agenda for the osc, and thanks to this thread it had been brought to discussion in the last meeting.
we will hope to have dialogue with the clubs reps at our next meet regarding this subject, every ones concerns will be put forward and a suitable solution reached.
although you can please some of the people sometimes but not all of the people all the time (i love that song)
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« Reply #177 on May 24, 2012, 8:25pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 8:06pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:this is high on the agenda for the osc, and thanks to this thread it had been brought to discussion in the last meeting.
we will hope to have dialogue with the clubs reps at our next meet regarding this subject, every ones concerns will be put forward and a suitable solution reached.
although you can please some of the people sometimes but not all of the people all the time (i love that song) |
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Thanks Maude.
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« Reply #178 on May 24, 2012, 9:30pm » | |
May 24, 2012, 8:25pm, Bushman wrote:
May 24, 2012, 8:06pm, maudesfishnchips wrote:this is high on the agenda for the osc, and thanks to this thread it had been brought to discussion in the last meeting.
we will hope to have dialogue with the clubs reps at our next meet regarding this subject, every ones concerns will be put forward and a suitable solution reached.
although you can please some of the people sometimes but not all of the people all the time (i love that song) |
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« Reply #179 on May 24, 2012, 9:31pm » | |
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