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Post by Macmoish on Sept 8, 2011 7:31:16 GMT
Guardian/Jamie Jackson
PFA calls for rule to make clubs interview black managerial candidates
• Currently only two black managers in professional game
• Plans would emulate 'Rooney Rule' implemented in NFLThe Professional Footballers' Association wants to force clubs to place black candidates on shortlists for managerial vacancies as it seeks to redress an imbalance that has resulted in only two black managers in charge of the 92 teams in the Premier and Football Leagues. The PFA is in preliminary consultation with Cyrus Mehri, the civil rights lawyer who in 2003 implemented the "Rooney Rule" in the US that requires NFL teams to interview minority candidates for head-coach roles. Last season the two Super Bowl teams, the Pittsburgh Steelers and Green Bay Packers, had black coaches. Birmingham City's Chris Hughton and Charlton Athletic's Chris Powell are the only black managers in league football. Gordon Taylor, the PFA chief executive, said: "In football terms, we are the most cosmopolitan country in the world. There is no distinction between colour, creed, nationality or background. However, the PFA spends a lot of money training players for the future and, understandably, one of the most obvious areas of interest is coaching and management. For some reason the number of black people who actually get a chance in this area is very small." A similar situation existed in the NFL until Mehri drafted the Rooney Rule (named after the Pittsburgh Steelers owner Dan Rooney). Invited by Taylor, Mehri met members of the PFA, League Managers Association, the Football Association, the Football League and the Premier League at Wembley on Tuesday, ahead of England's victory against Wales in the Euro 2012 qualifier. Mehri said: "The concept is very feasible and I'm bullish that the success in US can be replicated here. It will make clubs more competitive and spawn more job opportunities for black and white candidates. We are not saying clubs have to hire minority candidates. We are just saying: 'Give them a chance, maybe you don't know what you're missing.'" On implementation, the Rooney Rule had initial challenges to address, with the NFL taking action against franchises that did not follow the law. The Detroit Lions were fined $200,000 for not interviewing an African-American for their vacant head coach's position in 2003. Lord Ouseley, the chair of Kick It Out, football's equality and inclusion campaign, welcomed the PFA's move. He said: "This visit [of Mehri] provides us with a moment to respond to a wake-up call. It takes the will on the part of the game collectively to move things on from here. Owners of clubs, directors: it's these key decision-makers that can really make it happen. It needs to be accepted that the wider the pool of talent you choose from, the more likely it is you will find success." Taylor is optimistic that the approach would work. He said: "We are committed to this issue and Cyrus's experiences can offer us some solutions that can begin to address a concern that will not go away on its own. In 2011, it is in no one's interests for potential managers to be put off for similar reasons. We will not be taking this off our agenda." www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/07/pfa-black-management-candidatesMETRO
PFA consider 'Rooney Rule' to increase number of black managersThe Professional Footballers’ Association is investigating the possibility of forcing clubs to put black candidates on shortlists for managerial vacancies. At present, just two of the 92 English league teams have black managers – Chris Powell at Charlton and Birmingham’s Chris Hughton. Discussions with the men who brought about the implementation of the ‘Rooney Rule’ in the United States – credited with getting the NFL to a position where two black coaches faced each other in the Super Bowl, began at Wembley on Tuesday when the man who drafted that law, Cyrus Mehri, met members of the PFA, League Managers’ Association, the Football Association, Football League and Premier League. PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor, who invited Mehri to the talks, said: ‘In football terms, we are the most cosmopolitan country in the world, however the PFA spends a lot of money training players for the future and one of the most obvious areas of interest is coaching and management. For some reason the number of black people who actually get a chance in this area is very small.’ NFL teams fell into line with the Rooney Rule when, in 2003, the Detroit Lions were fined £125,000 for not interviewing an African-American for a vacancy. And Taylor feels a similar situation in England would be beneficial for all concerned, as ‘it broadens a panel of potential managers and coaches clubs are selecting from, and opens up the possibility of greater experience’. Taylor continued: ‘Twenty years ago, Cyrille Regis and Luther Blissett did not try to pursue management as they did not feel they would get a proper chance. ‘In 2011, it is in no-one’s interests for potential managers to be put off for similar reasons. We will not be taking this off our agenda.’ www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/874792-pfa-consider-rooney-rule-to-increase-number-of-black-managers#ixzz1XLOGitHf
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Post by klr on Sept 8, 2011 7:39:47 GMT
Dont agree with any of that & its insulting to the likes of Keith Alexander ( RIP ) & Chris Hughton IMO.
But hey ho, there's absolutely no way a piece of sinister social engineering policy like that wont become part of the law of the land such is the case in Britain in 2011.
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Post by klr on Sept 8, 2011 7:41:23 GMT
I'm sure there will also be legislation to say that Black managers cannot be sacked either ?, like i said, sinister.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 8, 2011 7:46:42 GMT
Somehow don't think that last part is going to happen
I think encouraging Chairmen to look is reasonable. But managerial appointments are so arbitrary anyway - and so hard to pin why x is selected over y....
And with more and more clubs owned by people - often from overseas cosmopolitans- the opposite of the proverbial insular, small local businessman - think appointments based more and more on (perceived) qualifications/ability to do the job rather than other stuff.
But obviously the PFA has focused on it a lot more than I have.
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Post by klr on Sept 8, 2011 7:56:23 GMT
No, I definately think its a slippery slope as I do any piece of social engineering.
Chairmans would definately have it in the back of their minds about what would happen if they had to sack the black manager, how much it would cost them, there is something sinister called "the race industry" in this country that employs thousands & thousands of lawyers & the like, of course it would be a consideration for someone if they hired a black or ethnic minority manager, what if he's no good, am I going to be able to get rid of him without it going through the courts & costing me & arm & a leg.
As an aside, I've always really been a big fan of listening to Paul Parker's views about Football, if I was a football manager, his name would be one of the first names on the list that I would phone to have a chat about possibly becoming my No. 2, I'm not a football manager, but I look at him as someone who just speaks honestly regardless of who he upsets in "the media" & also someone who has played at the very highest level for club & country, I wonder how someone like Paul Parker feel's about legislation of this type ?
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Post by kempton ranger on Sept 8, 2011 8:15:19 GMT
It's a shame that it has come to this , I think KLR makes some very good points in case. Their is a race industry you are absolutely right and driving it is greedy White fat cats feeding of peoples fears and emotions.
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Post by gibraltar on Sept 8, 2011 10:03:54 GMT
reverse racism sucks.
the game isn't racist, that's for sure. there's enough black players to prove that.
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Post by canadaranger on Sept 8, 2011 10:10:17 GMT
If anyone is counting black faces, check the PFA Executive...
Chief Executive: Gordon Taylor
Assistant Chief Executive: Bobby Barnes
Assistant Chief Executive: John Bramhall
PFA Executives: Richard Jobson, Martin Buchan, Nick Cusack
Nothing to see here... Move along...
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Post by klr on Sept 8, 2011 10:13:08 GMT
If Garth Crooks was white, his career would have ended a long time ago.
They make an issue where there isnt one, blacks & whites get on in Football, they have to, its the name of the game.
No to Communist style social engineering, its not the way we go about things in this country.
Keep the social engineers / Communists out of Football.
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Post by Hogan on Sept 8, 2011 15:46:37 GMT
It is nothing to do with skin colour, the candidate is either good enough for the job or he is not regardless he is white pink brown yelllow black or purple, it is as simple as that and forcing clubs to interivew or shortlist a candidate because he is black is not going to make the club appoint him is it.
Where are statistics showing how many black candidates applied for jobs and at which level compared to their white counterpart? Lets also see how the numbers fair when the same questions are applied to foreign/overseas managers applying for jobs. Lets see some numbers lets see what the patterns and trends are.
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Post by cpr on Sept 8, 2011 17:24:45 GMT
Totally unfair on women, of all colours, if you ask me.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 8, 2011 21:59:03 GMT
Mirror
Warnock: Racism is NOT holding back black coaches in English footballPublished 22:30 08/09/11 By Neil McLeman . Neil Warnock has claimed racism is not holding back the appointment of black coaches in English football. PFA boss Gordon Taylor wants the NFL’s Rooney Rule introduced - where at least one minority candidate must be interviewed for every job - to increase the ethnic diversity of coaches in the game. But QPR manager Warnock, who has Keith Curle as his first-team coach at Loftus Road, has insisted appointments are based solely on ability. “I’m not very happy with a lot of these quotes,” he said. “I’ve got Keith Curle working for me and I personally feel if you’re good enough it doesn’t matter what nationality you are or what colour your skin is. “Some people have had jobs and made a hash of it, black and white. So I’m not happy at all about this racism thing coming into football. If you’re good enough you get a job and you keep it. Keith has had two managerial jobs, other people have got them as well.” *** Rooney Rule: Back our Open Goal campaign to encourage more ethnic minority managers in England Rooney Rule: Prem boss Scudamore will consider introducing positive discrimination Rooney Rule: The system is broken and it needs to be fixed NOW, by Oliver Holt Rooney Rule: England facing 'lost generation' of potential managers, says Andrew Cole www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Rooney-rule-Neil-Warnock-no-racism-in-English-football-QPR-article796294.html
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Post by cpr on Sept 8, 2011 22:03:32 GMT
Well said Colin.
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Post by Hogan on Sept 8, 2011 22:38:23 GMT
Talks a lot of sense does our Neil.
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Post by bostonr on Sept 9, 2011 1:08:29 GMT
S'funny that this question doesn't arise in say...eye surgery or heart transplants.
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Post by canadaranger on Sept 9, 2011 1:33:31 GMT
Or PFA senior management...?
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Post by gibraltar on Sept 9, 2011 11:25:36 GMT
Keith Curle's black?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Sept 9, 2011 19:29:15 GMT
Oh dear what an article to write? Perhaps it is because they dont want to get into management. And why turn it into a race issue? Go back and have a few more pink gings fellas.
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