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Post by cpr on Jul 18, 2011 19:13:24 GMT
Did they base this money making venture on our owners?
Bryan Robson not smelling of roses.
Anyone watching this?
Has this been on before recently as it rings a bell.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jul 18, 2011 19:17:30 GMT
It's new. Rings a bell because as you say it looks like our owners template.
Robson and Fergie have always been dodgy barstewards. Hope they properly out the farkers.
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Post by cpr on Jul 18, 2011 19:45:18 GMT
Wasn't sure Zed as I thought there was something similar on recently or maybe it was just advertising this one.
Who do you believe eh?
Can't see Robson being a global ambassador for much longer even though most of what he has said isn't against the rules but simply being caught on camera would be enough.
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Post by cpr on Jul 18, 2011 19:58:02 GMT
Those Pompey fans could be us soon.....  |
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jul 18, 2011 20:04:12 GMT
Those Pompey fans could be us soon..... Yup.  Where's all the money gone... |
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Post by andygg on Jul 18, 2011 21:06:22 GMT
Cant see Robson ever getting a job over here now, dodgy git.
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 18, 2011 22:06:13 GMT
Telegraph Dispatches reveals Sheffield United were targeted for a takeover by an investment group willing to break FA rules Sheffield United were the club targeted for a takeover by an investment group willing to break Football Association rules preventing anyone owning two English clubs. Dispatches reveals Sheffield United were targeted for a takeover by an investment group willing to break FA rules Fearing the worst: Lord Triesman, the former chairman of the FA, insisted the revelations in the Dispatches were very worrying to watch Photo: GETTY IMAGES By Luke Edwards 8:00PM BST 18 Jul 2011 The London Nominees Football Fund, which employs the former Manchester United and England captain Bryan Robson as an adviser, were targeted by an undercover team working for Channel 4's Dispatches programme. In the programme, screened on Monday night, Robson is just one of the individuals shown openly talking about the loopholes in the system that would allow them to break the one club rule, with Sheffield United put forward as the ideal takeover target. Posing as an Indian businessman, one of the reporters is advised on how to beat the system preventing double ownership through offshore accounts and front groups. He is also promised loan players from Premier League clubs to help get the Blades promoted, because of Robson's close relationship with the likes of Harry Redknapp, Steve Bruce and Kenny Dalglish. Another member of the London Nominees Group, businessman Joe Sim, also assures the undercover reporter that Sir Alex Ferguson will let him have players on loan because of their friendship. * Sheffield United, now in League One, are given as the perfect example of a big club that could be bought cheaply, promoted with a small investment and sold for a huge profit once they were back in the Premier League. In the course of the film the fictional Indian consortium were offered a total of nine clubs that they were told were for sale: Sheffield United, Leeds United, Leicester City, Cardiff City, Sheffield Wednesday, Oxford United, Derby County, Birmingham City and Crystal Palace. The confident manner in which the investment group talk about the use of front groups to ensure the FA cannot discover who actually owns a club has alarmed senior figures in the game. "It's a very worrying thing to watch is the truth of it," said Lord Triesman, the former chairman of the FA. "I expect the staff including the most senior staff in the coaching side including the manger to be the people who run that football club for the benefit of that football club and for its fans. "And any system that tries to get around that particularly in the environment of multiple ownership potentially destroys the fundamentals of competition in football." Triesman tells Dispatches he hopes the FA will rise to the challenge this presents but admits that if not it may require a new fully independent Sports Commissioner to step in and take control of the game. Sheffield United confirmed they had met Joe Sim of London Nominees Football Fund as a potential buyer but told Dispatches that they would have carried out full due diligence checks on him before proceeding with any sale. They added they were as concerned as anyone about the concealment of club ownership and said that owners had to be good custodians. The Football fund denied that they, or anyone associated with them, would breach or offer to breach FA or Football League regulations. They denied that “what was offered was a structure where some how the same investors could own two or more clubs”. They said “ownership of even one club was not on offer – but investment into a fund which would invest into a company which would own a club” and that the fund would have been a separate legal entity. They say they operate an entirely proper business and would have undertaken independent due diligence on any buyer to ensure they met the ‘fit and proper’ test. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sheffield-united/8646063/Dispatches-reveals-Sheffield-United-were-targeted-for-a-takeover-by-an-investment-group-willing-to-break-FA-rules.html |
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jul 18, 2011 23:21:18 GMT
well now, lets see the FA or the PL or both now charge all the names inviolved with bringing the game into disrepure and fine them each 850K - it's called consistancey.
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Post by Hogan on Jul 19, 2011 3:14:33 GMT
well now, lets see the FA or the PL or both now charge all the names inviolved with bringing the game into disrepure and fine them each 850K - it's called consistancey. Lone bud, you are having a laugh, the FA is as pathetic as the rest of them. If they wanted to really sort it out, they would allow the clubs to only to into at the expense of the owners not the clubs, its so simple its ridicuous. It really would deter these Eccles and the Flab wannabe billionaire and the likes. |
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 19, 2011 6:46:38 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 19, 2011 6:47:52 GMT
Independent Ferguson dismisses 'club takeover' TV claims By Sam Wallace Tuesday, 19 July 2011 Sir Alex Ferguson last night moved to distance himself from an alleged associate who was the subject of a Channel Four undercover investigation into the illegal ownership of football clubs. The Football Association will look into allegations made by the Dispatches programme that London Nominees – a football investment fund – are helping rich foreign investors break FA rules that prevent individuals from owning more than one club. The documentary secretly filmed Bryan Robson, the former Manchester United and England captain, who works with London Nominees, promising that Ferguson and his other contacts in English football management would loan players to clubs bought by the fund's potential investors. The key person in the fund was Thai businessman Joe Sim, a senior figure in Thai football who claimed to be a close friend of Ferguson and said that he could persuade the United manager to loan players to lower division clubs bought by his investors. Ferguson's lawyers said that Sim had over-stated the closeness of his relationship with the United manager. The club identified as a prime target by Sim and London Nominees was Sheffield United but they also claimed that the likes of Leeds United, Cardiff City, Leicester City and Oxford United were available for acquisition. The stated purpose of the fund was to buy a club cheaply, achieve promotion to the Premier League and then sell up for a major profit. As well as Robson claiming that his connections with the likes of Harry Redknapp, Steve Bruce, Alex McLeish and Kenny Dalglish would mean a supply of loan players – which those involved all denied when questioned by Channel Four – he said that profits could be made by selling and relocating club's training grounds. Robson, who was manager of the Thailand national team for two years and is a global ambassador for Manchester United, said in last night's broadcast: "I disagree with people when they say football is a sport. Football lost its sporting thing when all the money from Sky TV and that [came in]. Football is a business." Sim was also recorded saying that he was involved in the acquisition of up to three football clubs. He claimed that one of his associates was the Singapore businessman Peter Lim who tried to buy Liverpool last year. www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ferguson-dismisses-club-takeover-tv-claims-2316052.html |
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Post by cpr on Jul 19, 2011 8:17:59 GMT
Rather comically, SSN just did a round-up of today's sports stories in the papers and this show did not get a mention!!!   |
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Post by klr on Jul 19, 2011 8:24:44 GMT
Pretty good programme, good comment about Football not being a sport anymore from Bryan Robson.
Money attracts scum.
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Post by cpr on Jul 19, 2011 8:30:17 GMT
Pretty good programme, good comment about Football not being a sport anymore from Bryan Robson. Money attracts s.cum. Exactly KLR, as I mentioned above, not exactly a lot wrong in what Robson said. It's simply another way of gambling in that part of the world where it is endemic, in fact, simply a way of life of which the majority of us cannot begin to understand. |
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Post by cpr on Jul 19, 2011 8:31:31 GMT
Why would a Singapore billionaire, Peter Lim, feel the need to get involved with this group to buy a club?
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Post by klr on Jul 19, 2011 9:00:58 GMT
Pretty good programme, good comment about Football not being a sport anymore from Bryan Robson. Money attracts s.cum. Exactly KLR, as I mentioned above, not exactly a lot wrong in what Robson said. It's simply another way of gambling in that part of the world where it is endemic, in fact, simply a way of life of which the majority of us cannot begin to understand. To be fair, & lets get this straight, I dont think Bryan Robson covered himself in glory, but it wasnt the most incriminating thing in his case either, he had a look about him like this is just the way things are nowadays you know ? he looked uncomfortable in manner with some of the stuff & the way it was discussed. The Thai "Fixer" that was friends with SAF seemed like a bit of a Walter Mitty. The so called "Greatest Football Club In The World" dont look great as a result of this either, which is fine by me. |
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 21, 2011 11:12:31 GMT
Brian Glanville's take "...If a man is judged by the company he keeps, then it was somewhat distressing to see on that Dispatches programme Alex Ferguson having such a plainly agreeable dinner with the unappetising Joe Sim. Ferguson, like Caesar’s wife, is surely above suspicion and we may probably discount Sim’s grandiose claim that they are “like brothers.” Yet you wonder why Ferguson would want anything to do with such a character, even if we must certainly accept that Sim’s insistence that Ferguson would provide players on loan were he and his organisation to take over a club, is without basis. In any case, what ultimate use could loan players be if the object, as Sim suggested, is reaching the Premiership? What help were they to Preston last season, when Ferguson’s son, Darren, was in charge, but, for all the help from Manchester United, the ship still went down? And to make Sheffield United with its £50 million plus debt and present lowly status a target beggared belief. As for Bryan Robson, those of us who so admired him as a player and found him such a likeable figure over the years must be deeply disappointed by the figure he cut in the programme. To maintain that football today is no longer a sport but a business was a pretty feeble defence. The fact is that from time all but immemorial it has been both. While the long list of so called “buyable clubs recited by Sim seemed largely the stuff of wish fulfilment. Finally, what object could there be in however surreptitiously, owning two clubs both of modest status?" www.worldsoccer.com/columnists/brian-glanville-on-the-shock-copa-america-exits-of-argentina-and-brazil |
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