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Post by Bushman on Jun 30, 2011 0:39:29 GMT
The Three remaining committee members should stand down as they are in conflict with the OSC constitution that demands at least nine members on the committee stand.
Many names are being put forward I notice on another site to replace former OSC members. Isleworthranger for example has come forward with some names and they are very good suggestions. I am not saying they are the best or right, but still good suggestions.
But it does not matter who replaces the ex committee members, as long as they are governed and vetted by the Eyes and Ears of the club. (The Eyes and Ears of the club know who they are as they report back to Ecclestone, Briatore and Paladini).
There is no need to rush into selecting anybody until the club excepts they can no longer control and gag the goings on of a committee. We deserve an OSC that we can be proud of and not an OSC that has been paralysed and made useless by certain control freaks who work at QPR.
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Post by Hoop on Jun 30, 2011 1:31:00 GMT
As Linda says, this is the OFFICIAL supporters club. Any new members will undoubtedly get the same treatment as the recently departed members and therefore will likely end up resigning.
As Linda says, all fans need to stand together.
Other supporter groups have suggested a boycott of merch - next step is to provide fans with an alternative piece of merchandise to purchase which will also give them a voice. All proceeds could then go into fighting the club on another level.
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Post by cpr on Jun 30, 2011 7:51:50 GMT
If the other three stand down there is no longer any remnant of an OSC.
The club can no longer hide behind falsely documented meetings with these representatives as they do not exist.
A clear fans revolt that needs to hit the press as this is all tango and cash understand.
Have either of the two of them even been near the club since the end of the season?
I very much doubt it, they simply tell lackeys what to do or say.
The two letters regarding season tickets are in front of me and looks like that is exactly where they will stay. I am not prepared to hand over £1,500 (approx) to these people. I may renew our memberships but we don't even know the price of them yet, bloody farce.
Does it come as a surprise that a self confessed Chels*** fan and a man convicted of fraud are destroying our club?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 30, 2011 11:14:13 GMT
Agree with CPR, time to make a united stand, let the OSC fall over and get the press involved.
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Post by Markqpr on Jun 30, 2011 11:38:04 GMT
Agree with CPR, time to make a united stand, let the OSC fall over and get the press involved. Why should we let the OSC fall over? They are the 'supporters' club and as such I support them. I support the recent resignations and hope the rest of the committee follow suit at the risk of not undermining them. The club has chosen to use the OSC to talk to us, we must now rebuild the OSC in our own image and not the club's. We can start to do that by calling for the OSC charter to be rewritten and agreed upon by the old members and the club. If members are resigning then we can not let their actions go unheeded and must fight to achieve a worthwhile status for the OSC within the club. We can't let their actions be in vain. We should not use the media for any purpose other than reporting actual events and actions that we as supporters instigate only in the best interest of the club and it's fans.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 30, 2011 11:54:48 GMT
Mark it is becoming obvious that the club wish to control the OSC which with it being official, they can to some extent. But no way will the"club" allow for any of the rules to be changed that may infringr on them. Better to do like the Man U fans did and Form an unofficial yet highly respected Supporters club. And We too cold revert to scarfs of the original QPR with a decent badge on it too.
The press thus far have been supportive of QPR fans. It would be good if it was fostered in a positive way. For supporters but also for QPR. Everyone knows where the problems are. It seems humilation might be the only way to encourage positive changes. Nothing else is having any effect.
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Post by haqpr1963 on Jun 30, 2011 12:04:17 GMT
How many more unofficial but highly respected supporters groups do we need?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 30, 2011 12:08:47 GMT
United fans managedto unite their various groups.
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Post by haqpr1963 on Jun 30, 2011 12:12:19 GMT
What ever we do means nothing if Tango and Cash are going to continue to ignore us. The only way is to hit them in the pocket but that just isn't going to happen......
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 30, 2011 12:22:50 GMT
We can outlast them, Bernie is not getting any younger and neither is TOD
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 30, 2011 12:33:16 GMT
Certain irony in that the people of the OFFICIAL Supporters Club have shown their independence of those running the club, while ....
Well those with imagination can fill in the rest!
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 12, 2011 7:02:12 GMT
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Post by terryb on Jul 12, 2011 8:44:54 GMT
Mac
Can I remind you that Joe Kyle was unaware of any resignations & this was only heresay!
I wonder how the club discussions with the 2 main groups of supporters are going?
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 12, 2011 8:48:39 GMT
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Post by linda08 on Jul 12, 2011 11:51:20 GMT
This has to be an ongoing issue. I'm still waiting for any news of the EGM and personally won't let it rest until the fans get one - even though I have resigned the strength of feeling is still there, believe me. I'm keeping an eye on how things progress... my resigned colleagues feel the same. Rest assured I will add my weight, such as it is, to repeated calls for a fans' meeting - namely an EGM. It's been called, therefore it should happen. Just don't have anything to add at the moment, as I know NOTHING! My personal view is that the OSC should continue, but perhaps it is time to progress in a different format. Remember it has evolved over the years and now we have more "up to the minute" online media available which wasn't the case previously. Things really should change but it will take time, I suspect.
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Post by terryb on Jul 12, 2011 14:17:38 GMT
Thanks Linda.
I really do get the impression that the club are trying to ignore the resignations & the call for an EGM as it does not fit in with their cunning plan!
I would agree that there is definitely a roll & a future for the OSC, but the format for this & other bodies needs to be defined and not just by the club.
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Post by Markqpr on Jul 14, 2011 8:53:33 GMT
This has to be an ongoing issue. I'm still waiting for any news of the EGM and personally won't let it rest until the fans get one - even though I have resigned the strength of feeling is still there, believe me. I'm keeping an eye on how things progress... my resigned colleagues feel the same. Rest assured I will add my weight, such as it is, to repeated calls for a fans' meeting - namely an EGM. It's been called, therefore it should happen. Just don't have anything to add at the moment, as I know NOTHING! My personal view is that the OSC should continue, but perhaps it is time to progress in a different format. Remember it has evolved over the years and now we have more "up to the minute" online media available which wasn't the case previously. Things really should change but it will take time, I suspect. I delayed my reply on purpose to bump this back to the top once it had fallen off the front page! Thanks for the update Linda and I would like to add my support to your suggestion that the OSC remain but adapts to suit it's enforced purpose. What would be the best way in your mind to force an EGM with the club? In my mind a public demonstration outside the main entrance after the first game of the season seems unfortunately the best way to get their attention and draw the media in as well to highlight our request for an EGM. Whilst the playing side of the club is not at fault for anything I can't help feel that in simply doing what they are supposed to do (buy players for the EPL) the board are hoping our protests about ticket prices are glossed over and kept on the boards and in the pubs away from the public eye of the new fan. As such they can keep ignoring the calls for an EGM and continue to ignore the problem as they have been doing. However I hate to see us have to do that as it does reflect badly on the public image of the club, an image we all want to be proud of and so does anyone have a better idea that will give us the result we need and attain an EGM?
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 15, 2011 6:35:39 GMT
It seems to me that the least one can do - or at least one step one step one can take (and I just did) is post on the OSC board "WeRQPR" www.werqpr.com and ask such questins.
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Post by linda08 on Jul 15, 2011 12:09:18 GMT
For the moment, all that can be done is to repeat the requests for the EGM - keep the emails flooding in throughout the close/pre-season. Keep the momentum going from all sides.
Even though it won't be a strictly "united" front because of the diversity of the various fans' groups, they can and should come together en masse to (i) work out what OSC members want from the EGM and (ii) ensure it is held, as is the "right" laid down in the constitution. Perhaps that would be a start. Of course, the initial vitriol was about ticket pricing but my gut feeling is that it's too late for that to be the sole issue. Of course, the club need to know how the price rises have impacted upon supporters but I suspect it won't change anything in that regard. The one thing that needs to be avoided is an EGM turning into a glorified slanging match or bun fight. OSC members - from whichever fans group they subscribe to - will have to present as united a front as possible.
I agree that hurting the image of the club would be something to avoid if at all possible. However, currently it feels that the fans are almost "out of sight, out of mind" (apart from at the Box Office, of course!).
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 19, 2011 8:42:47 GMT
Keep bumping this thread Not going to say the OSC Posting board is dead...But it's virtually So that's not the greatest avenue www.werqpr.com/forum.html
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Post by isleworthranger on Jul 19, 2011 16:39:20 GMT
For the moment, all that can be done is to repeat the requests for the EGM - keep the emails flooding in throughout the close/pre-season. Keep the momentum going from all sides. Even though it won't be a strictly "united" front because of the diversity of the various fans' groups, they can and should come together en masse to (i) work out what OSC members want from the EGM and (ii) ensure it is held, as is the "right" laid down in the constitution. Perhaps that would be a start. Of course, the initial vitriol was about ticket pricing but my gut feeling is that it's too late for that to be the sole issue. Of course, the club need to know how the price rises have impacted upon supporters but I suspect it won't change anything in that regard. The one thing that needs to be avoided is an EGM turning into a glorified slanging match or bun fight. OSC members - from whichever fans group they subscribe to - will have to present as united a front as possible. I agree that hurting the image of the club would be something to avoid if at all possible. However, currently it feels that the fans are almost "out of sight, out of mind" (apart from at the Box Office, of course!). Linda The original purpose of requesting an EGM was so all the members and season ticket holders could have a free recorded vote on a motion along the lines of we the OSC totally condemn the recent price increase in particular the proposed walk up prices etc 30 of us signed the letter requesting the EGM and the names came from various message boards so I would hope it would be a united motion and something that at the very least would embarrass the club It had nothing to do with the competency of the then committee who are and were held in high regard by the majority of fans and nobody questions your commitment and support for the club Can I also add on a personal note my admiration to you and the others who stood down recently and I hope that when the dust eventually settles you and the others will again take an active role
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