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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2011 7:48:43 GMT
16 Years Ago
QPR 1st June 1, 2001
Today's Standard carries a story about QPR facing the prospect of having to sell Loftus Road to survive. It quotes administrator Ray Hocking "admitting" he would listen to separate offers for the stadium and the football club after the sale of Wasps and Twyford Avenue has been completed.
It would of course be quite wrong to dimiss the story out of hand. Equally, it would be complacent to offer assurances that the story is nothing more than a recycling of old material merely to flesh out the bald statement that the sale to Chris Wright had gone through. But administrator Ray Hocking would always have had to consider offers for individual parts of Loftus Road plc.
In legal terms, the administrator does have the final say on whether or not a bid is accepted. But in the real world, it is Chris Wright as owner and main creditor who influences that decision. Chris Wright has given both public and written assurances that he will do everything in his power to ensure that QPR and Loftus Road are protected and sold in a joint deal. We have regular communication with Chris Wright and the administrator, and have had no indication from either party that the stated commitment to fund QPR through until October has in any way altered. Our expectation therefore is that Chris Wright will honour his commitment - or that the administrator, in promising to keep QPR fans as fully informed as appropriate-confidentiality will allow, will make a statement if there is a fundamental shift in policy.
We have asked Ray Hocking to clarify the situation, and are awaiting a response.
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A commitment to Queens Park Rangers Football Club and QPR 1st has been given by each of the leading candidates in the forthcoming general election. This unique cross-party commitment was formalised yesterday with the signing of a document by the candidates for the Ealing, Acton and Shepherd's Bush constituency - Clive Soley (Labour), Justine Greening (Conservative), Martin Tod (Lib-Dem), and Nick Grant (Socialist Alliance).
The official signing took place at Hammersmith Town Hall, and photographs will appear in next week's local press. The document read:
We the undersigned, as your prospective parliamentary candidates in the forthcoming election, would like you to be aware that we view Queens Park Rangers Football Club to be an essential part of the fabric of the local community. In the light of that fact we would like to assert the following:
* That it is vital Queens Park Rangers Football Club be maintained in its current form and continues to be based in the local area. * That the administrators operate a policy of openness and consult with supporters on key issues related to the club's future. * That the current and future owners support the QPR 1st supporters trust and accept the need for supporter representation on the board of the club.
Despite it being a welcomed photo-opportunity for all the candidates, and politicians being extra keen to don a QPR scarf for the pictures, their pledges of support are anything but token. QPR 1st will be working to nurture and maintain close liaison with all the main political parties in the borough, and ensure that QPR remains to the forefront of local issues. QPR 1st is strictly a non-political organisation, but of course it is essential that those who will govern or adminster the borough have a full understanding of the club, its supporters and its current and potential role in the community.
One of those candidates putting their name to the pledge will, on June 7, be elected as MP for the borough, and knowing that QPR and QPR 1st can call on his or her support and influence is good news. We thank all the political parties for their backing and wish each of the candidates well for next Thursday.
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It was back to the Town Hall a few hours later, as the first of what will be regular meetings between leading Council officials and QPR 1st got underway. Areas of discussion included planning issues, regeneration, PR and community. Clearly these are subjects that aren't covered in depth in a single evening, but there were several avenues opened, and the result of the partnership and the Council will become apparent in time.
Mayor Andrew Slaughter wrote to us recently, and in line with the parliamentary candidates reaffirmed his and his council's backing for QPR and QPR 1st. He stated:
"As I said when I addressed the very successful public meeting to launch QPR 1st, this council is committed to QPR, committed to the R's remaining as QPR, and committed to the club remaining in Shepherds Bush. I will personally do everything within my power to ensure that this happens. I am pleased to hear that your organisation has already had success in putting pressure on Chris Wright and the administrators and ending the merger rumours. We will continue to do everything we can to keep in contact with the events at the club and make our sentiments felt, and will keep you informed of any developments of which we hear. I hope that you will also keep me informed as the situation unfolds. I have asked my Advisor, who I know has spoken to members of your organisation, to provide a single point of contact on this issue for councillors and the Council. I would welcome your suggestions as to any other assistance that the council could usefully offer. "
In 1994 the Council adopted a Unitary Development Plan, which is currently being updated, although remaining exactly the same in spirit. The Council's proposed UDP contains the following formal and plain excerpt, reproduced without much interpretation due to the complex legal situation surrounding planning, but of interest and relevence to QPR.
CS3 PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL GROUNDS
In considering any redevelopment proposal for all or part of an existing football ground, the Council will normally require the provision of suitable facilities to enable the continuation of professional football or other field-based spectator sports. Any proposals will, however, be subject to locational policies in the plan, such as the policies on major new ACE and recreation uses and food and drink uses, and should not have a significant adverse impact on residential amenity or on-street parking. In addition, the Council will require transport impact assessments where proposals are likely to give rise to pressures on the transportation network (see policy TN13 on TIAs).
8.32 The Council wishes to retain professional football in the Borough, because it provides a major source of entertainment and contributes to the life of the community. The Council is only prepared to consider re-development proposals for professional football grounds if they make provision for continuation of professional football or other field-based spectator sports at that ground, and if they are compatible with neighbouring uses and the public transport accessibility level of the area. Refurbishment and enhancement of facilities will also need to be assessed against environmental and transport policies of the Plan, including traffic impact assessments. Proposals which are not clearly linked to professional football will particularly be subject to policies CS2A and CS2B. If it can be demonstrated that professional football or other field- based spectator sports are no longer viable there, the redevelopment should include provision for other community service uses in accordance with other policies in this Chapter.
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This weekend should (finally!) see the launch of the new, improved QPR 1st website. We have seen it - and very impressive it is too. Now nearly halfway through the three-month mandate to go away and put in place a fully-fledged Supporters Trust, it is an appropriate juncture to update progress on that. There is a great deal of work going on behind the scenes but we are well on course to achieve that target. More by Sunday.
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2011 7:49:23 GMT
QPR1st/Dave Thomas - June 4, 2001
News Update It's been just over six weeks since QPR 1st was launched at Hammersmith Town Hall... but it seems a lifetime ago now for the 15 of us charged with bringing the Trust to fully-fledged status within three calendar months.
The result of where we are up to now, the progress made in that time, the contacts established, and the strategies put in place have resulted from countless phone calls, a dozen committee meetings - but mostly, thanks to a List system, a grand total of... 2,345 related emails as we deliberate (and occasionally argue) the way to take QPR 1st forward. That's not to mention the phone calls, the emails and the discussions taking place amongst the various sub-groups and those co-opted to them. It's proven a huge task - a full-time one for all of us really. Not a few of us are running out of goodwill with our bosses!
With the launch of the new, improved website, then, we thought it an appropriate point to inform about progress to date.
Administration We have lines of communication open with Chris Wright, the administrator Ray Hocking and his team, and the Brian Melzack and Milton Keynes consortiums. Our understanding is that no finalised bid has yet been tabled by any party.
We fully understand how this is creating a climate of apprehension amongst the fans, especially when much of the media coverage is speculative or ill-informed. Without being complacent in any shape or form, there is no evidence within the dynamics of the situation at the club as we understand them, and are party to, that makes us believe QPR are in any imminent danger of folding. But we are a pro-active organisation, as well as a reactive one, and QPR 1st is putting in place both short-term contingency plans and a long-term business plan to ensure that the identity and future of the club is protected.
Sales Although unable to prevent the sale of Wasps or the Twyford Avenue training ground to Chris Wright, our intervention at the EGM and subsequent challenging and alteration of the resolutions at least ensures QPR will benefit financially from any future sell-on or change of use of the training ground. As for Loftus Road and QPR, we have been given written and verbal assurances from Chris Wright that he will do everything in his power to ensure that the two are kept as a single entity, and our expectation is that he will fulfil that promise.
Skills One of the pledges of any supporters trust is to utilise the skills and enthusiasm of the fan-base. To date, we have received lots of practical help, practical suggestions and offers of help in the future from right across the QPR support. It is hugely motivating for us. Someone willing to put letters into an envelope plays as big a part in the operation as those willing to donate their professional services. Already we have been able to utilise the skills of fans expert in finance, law and media.
Communication We fully recognise that not all QPR fans have access to the Internet, and we are currently in the process of sending out an interim newsletter to those who have registered without an email address. This website will remain an important method of communicating information, and full use will be made of email updates as well. We are also setting up a dedicated phone line to convey information. This will be done on the cheapest rate service we can find. All members will receive, through the post, a quarterly newsletter as part of their membership.
The website is intended to be inter-active. There are already ways to communicate your ideas, views and opinions to QPR 1st, but in time that will extend to your being able to submit marketing ideas, provide your own 'scouting' information (the signing of Hampton's Leroy Griffiths was as a result of his name being put forward by QPR 1st), and any number of similar initiatives which will draw upon the knowledge of the QPR fan-base - so that in time all fans will be able to play an active part in the running of the club. We will also shortly be adding sections on community, networking, Junior R's - and much more besides.
Disinformation Inevitably when vested interest is at stake, we have to contend with disinformation. The best weapon against this is for us to provide regular updated information. There, though, in these early days, those whose agenda is to undermine QPR 1st (and we know who you are) have the advantage. Already, for example, we have seen instances of people using the anonymity of messageboards to spread false and malicious lies. Thankfully, the vast majority of QPR fans are wise enough to see through this type of posting.
Our policy on this is clear. We will take swift and incisive action against anyone whose activity is unlawful. We are currently taking legal action against the individual responsible for a defamatory posting made on the Wasps board, and will have no hesitation in repeating that as often as necessary. We will not allow those with hidden agendas to undermine QPR 1st or any individual within the organisation.
Membership To date we have had well in excess of 2,000 registrations, and that number continues to rise steadily on a daily basis. The draft constitution (all 25 pages of it!) is with the lawyers and once that has been okayed, QPR 1st can be officially ratified as a bona fide Supporters Trust, operating under co-operative principles. That means one member, one vote. It is a time-consuming but necessary process.
In a little while, every registrant will receive through their post a membership form, together with a questionnaire on issues affecting QPR. The cost of membership is yet to be decided.
Fundraising/donations Running any organisation takes money. All committee members, and those co-opted to help, provide their services free of course. For each of us, it's merely an extension of our support for QPR. But we need funds for running costs, and they will start to increase soon. We are very grateful to those at the Hammersmith Town Hall meeting who contributed to a bucket collection. We have also subsequently received donations from individuals ranging from £10 to £1000. We are very grateful for that backing. If you would like to make a donation to the cause, please see the contact page for address details
Networking We can't protect the identity and future of QPR entirely on our own. QPR 1st is part of a new fans movement, and we have already established links with other trusts and fan groups. But it goes way beyond that. Networking with local community groups, the local council, local political parties, and the local media has begun in earnest - and the early results are highly encouraging.
Support To date, QPR 1st has received signatured support from MP Clive Soley (who is favourite to be re-elected on Thursday), the four main parliamentary candidates for the borough, and from Mayor Andrew Slaughter. Hammersmith & Fulham Council have been hugely supportive, too. From a PR point of view it is important to have backing from those who have some celebrity status. We are very happy that Les Ferdinand has pledged his support to QPR 1st, as have well-known supporters such as Robert Elms and Michael Nyman. Ian Holloway too has made public his support. We are currently preparing a press pack, and are actively seeking out celebrity backing. If anyone can suggest names, or better still provide contact details, please forward them to info@qpr1st.co.uk
The most important support to date, though, has come from QPR fans. For more about QPR 1st click here
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2011 7:49:45 GMT
QPR1st 5th June 2001 - Statement issued to the press
QPR 1st has renewed its plea to potential new owners to come forward and buy QPR and the Loftus Road ground.
Loftus Road plc, which comprises Queens Park Rangers Football Club and the Loftus Road stadium, is currently in administration, and up for sale.
QPR 1st spokeswoman Libby Magrill said: "Our understanding is that none of the reported bids have yet been finalised. This is naturally creating a climate of apprehension amongst the fans. Owner Chris Wright has pledged to support the club financially through until October. But that is less than four months away, and the long-term future of the club remains uncertain."
QPR 1st is inviting potential new owners to take over the club and work in partnership with the fans. The message from QPR 1st to any new owner is that they don't have to expect to lose money by keeping QPR at Loftus Road.
Libby Magrill said: "The outside perception of QPR is that the club is haemorrhaging money and can't operate within budget outside the Premiership. Therefore buyers are not flocking to our door. If one of football's defining characteristics is to ignore normal business practice and freelance the whole exercise on a seat-of-pants basis, then maybe it's time someone did it by the book.
"With the right business plan, realistic for a club in the Second Division, and working in constructive partnership with the fans, there is no reason why a club owning its own stadium and enjoying good support cannot operate successfully."
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2011 7:50:43 GMT
QPR1st
Merger Off 3rd May 2001 - Report by Dave Thomas
A horrible day. QPR fans woke up to the breaking news that, 14 years on from the last proposed merger, another was on the cards. This time it wasn't Fulham, but Wimbledon. Different club, same reaction.
So, first, a press release - in which we state our opposition to the proposed merger and promise to fight it all the way. We do so in the belief that the overwhelming majority of QPR fans will be opposed to such an idea. "Working to protect the identity of and future of Queens Park Rangers". That is the platform on which we launched QPR 1st. Here then is our first big test. We are an organisation just three weeks into existence, still sifting through close to 2,000 registrations and putting in place a truly democratic 'one member, one vote' set-up. In that time, we have had a thousand people turn up to a public meeting and provide overwhelming support for the idea of setting up a supporters trust.
We have backing from the government, from the FA, the Football League, and the PFA. We receive support from the council, from the Mayor, from the local MP, and from the Shepherds Bush business community. We now have the voting power of over two million shares pledged. Of course, that is insignificant compared to Chris Wright's majority shareholding, but as a meaningful lobby of small shareholders, it is a hugely significant figure.
So the wording of the press release, then. We promise to fight any merger. It is our unshakeable belief that it is something the overwhelming majority of QPR fans are opposed to and state as much. Predictably, from some, there is criticism that we don't represent the views of ALL the fans - not something, to the best of our belief and knowledge, we have ever done. There are those who in favour of a merger, we accept that. And indeed respect their views.
But we're a democratic organisation, and the messages of support from people registering support for QPR 1st merely confirm our unshakeable belief that the majority of QPR fans oppose a merger. It is all very well arguing that, if looked at unemotionally, the merger is a good business proposition. Which of course it is. But you can't conveniently take the emotional aspect out of the equation. Choosing to support a football club is not a cold decision. It's one that comes from the heart, and is pursued via an emotional roller-coaster. That's the appeal, the very essence of supporting a club. Those of us who came to the fore to take QPR 1st forward - not just for our own benefit, but for all QPR fans who share our beliefs and visions - bleed blue and white. If you love something - truly love something, even if it is only a football club - then you'll not only nurture it, you'll fight tooth and nail to protect it. We are QPR. We are not QPR incorporating anyone else.
The amount of vitriol that comes our way because of that stance is astonishing. There are ridiculous suggestions that we knew about the merger three weeks ago, although nothing to explain why we would wish to keep that to ourselves. We are accused of everything from being "unrepresentative" (don't think so!) to being a cosy little clique with all sorts of hidden agendas (not so). What an insult that is to those who have pledged support for QPR 1st, numbers which are rising rapidly every day. In fact so vitriolic is it at times, that you would be forgiven for thinking it was almost orchestrated. At least we always put our proper names to, for example, postings on the Internet. It's interesting that so much of the criticism of QPR 1st comes from anonymous sources. Fine, democracy means that those who support the merger are entitled to form their own collective voice. Let them come to Molineux on Sunday and canvass support.
So the wording of the press release contains no prevarication. As a responsible organisation, of course we have to listen to the proposals with an open mind. But they are splashed all over the newspapers, and in turn reproduced on the Internet. There's nothing in the proposals to make us believe the majority of QPR fans will view this merger any differently to the one in 1987, or significantly oppose it any less.
The merger story in the Sun can, we decide, be looked at from one of three perspectives. Firstly, that it is the route Chris Wright and the administrators are set on. In which case, it is something that will inevitably be fought by fans of both clubs. Secondly, it is a story deliberately leaked to the press and designed to create a smokescreen whereby the fear of merger tempts a firm bid to the table. So far, we are told, there have been 30 or so expressions of interest in buying QPR but no firm bid tabled. Nothing like a good scare story to propel potential buyers into action. Thirdly, it is a classic negotiating tactic - present a worst case scenario, then downgrade it to something not quite so unpalatable, but something which in itself would have met opposition. A groundshare perhaps? A sell-off of Loftus Road and QPR groundsharing somewhere else? A move to a new stadium? It's all guesswork, but the meeting with Chris Wright this evening will present an opportunity to sort out some fact from fiction. Or not as the case may be.
The meeting with Chris Wright and representatives from QPR 1st, had been agreed a week or more beforehand. The objective of it was to obtain first-hand information about his plans and intentions for QPR. It was also to convey the aims and objectives of a supporters trust and take the first step in what we hope will eventually lead to a 'listening club' - not one that merely pays lip service to the notion that the fan-base should be an inclusive part of the way the club is run, not peripheral to it. But of course the merger was now the key issue to address.
Would the story coming out in the papers (a coincidence or timely?) and the protests which had gone on all day, both outside Loftus Road and at the FA, scupper the meeting. We assembled, nine of us from the Interim Commitee, there representing QPR 1st, but equally drawn from across the broad spectrum of QPR support, incorporating the LSA, shareholders, webmasters, and A Kick Up The R's. Even up to the last minute we were waiting to confirm the location of the meeting. As it transpired, Nick Blackburn and Chris Wright came to us, not us to them
Nick Blackburn arrived first, and proceeded to tell us about the thinking behind the proposed merger. It seems it was first mooted at Selhurst Park after the 5-0 defeat by Wimbledon. He describes it as an idea discussed "half-heartedly" and as a "bit of a joke". They are not words, we are quick to point out, that are particularly appropriate to the future of our football club. It seems the idea was then discussed further at QPR board level and a more formal approach made to Wimbledon. Nick Blackburn said that the QPR board felt that, due to the financial difficulties facing the club, it was a proposal that merited a further look.
He asked us if we saw any merit in the merger or if the whole thing was the worst idea in the world? The latter, we informed him. Even if a merger meant come August we would be able to watch a team "wearing hoops" at Loftus Road, but with 'Wimbledon' incorporated into the club name, playing Manchester City in front of 20,000 fans, rather than QPR playing Bristol City in front of 8,000? Especially not if meant a team wearing hoops at Loftus Road, but with Wimbledon incorporated into the club name, playing Manchester City in front of 20,000 fans, we assured him. QPR then, QPR now, QPR always, to steal a line. We would rather watch QPR at the bottom of Division Three having retained our own identity, than watch some hybrid, mongrel club at any level. The continual use of the word 'hybrid' began to annoy Nick Blackburn after a while, we felt. Hybrid, mongrel, or whatever - what guarantee was there that the new amalgamated club would be successful. There were, we reminded him, alternative ways to fill a stadium. That was one of the ways in which QPR 1st could contribute. (Dare we suggest that a full stadium week in, week out is the wish of every QPR fan, or do we need to acknowledge that there are perhaps some fans who only want a half-full stadium?)
Chris Wright arrived not too long after. He sat down, and invited us to fire questions at him, anything we wanted to know. He would answer as honestly as could, he assured us. Tell us the precise situation QPR are in now, we invited.
He began by explaining the injuries which had blighted our season and eventually led to relegation. No, he wasn't happy with the performances, but impending relegation and the consequential worsening financial difficulties, whereby the club were potentially trading insolvently, forced the club into administration. Chris Wright is an engaging speaker in the surrounds of a less formal setting such as this, but there is still a feeling that you give him a cue and the well-rehearsed lines come out one after another. The product of a man who has been interviewed a thousand times, and forgiveable for that alone. There was nothing he said that any of us hadn't heard before. Until of course the point when he got to the merger.
He reiterated Nick Blackburn's views that it was merely an idea, one in fact that he himself had decided three days beforehand was a non-starter. Even so, he believed that many Football League clubs were looking at the possibility of merger - many Football League club's CHAIRMAN he agreed, after interjection on our part - and used the two Sheffield clubs as an illustration of how two medium sized clubs could merge to compete as one powerful one in a 50,000 stadium. The assumption that it would be a FULL stadium was one that didn't go unchallenged. Nor did Nick Blackburn's earlier suggestion that Loftus Road would be heaving with 20,000 punters desperate to see Quimbledon, or whatever the name was. More like a tenth of that, we suggested. And no support away from home.
It was always, he assured us, the club's intention to seeking the views of season ticket holders, shareholders and members, and the merger would only proceed if there was a significant majority against the idea. It would all have depended on the results of a ballot. And of the way it was worded, we interjected. It would have been a straightforward poll, he responded, and if the verdict had been anti-merger then he saw no way that QPR could go down that route.
We expressed shock that someone who is a fan, and around in 1987, should even begin to entertain a merger - a horrible word to QPR fans. Had the protests today come as a surprise to Chris Wright? No, they hadn't. Was he aware that whilst we might be sitting around the table in a calm manner, there were many, many very angry fans out there, some of whom were planning further protests both at Wolves on Sunday, and also at Loftus Road on Sunday? He didn't doubt it.
He was now talking in the past tense, we pointed out. Did this mean that no ballot would take place? The story breaking in the Sun, he felt, had scuppered any rational debate on the merits of the merger, so no it was not an option that the club would now persue. In any case the strength of feeling demonstrated at the ground, on the messageboards, and around the table here this evening had confirmed his own private feelings that a merger is not the way forward.
So what is the way forward? He confirmed that he would continue to fund the club until October, but of course a buyer may well come in tomorrow. And after October if no firm bid is recieved? What contingency plans did he have? None, was the short answer. But he stated he would not allow QPR to go bust. What conditions did he place on the sale? For example, would he consider selling Loftus Road separately to QPR? He promised he would do everything in his power to keep the two together.
What about the Wasps deal, which included Twyford Avenue as well? It seems he had kept Wasps out of the administration process as league rules meant any rugby club in administration would immediately be kicked out the league. The reason for buying the two was to reduce the debt linked to QPR, and therefore make it a more attractive proposition to any potential bidder. Would he agree to a clause whereby any bidder wanting to buy Wasps as part of the package could buy them and the training ground for the same price Chris Wright had paid. No, on balance, that wasn't something he was prepared to agree to. What about conditions of sale? What criteria, apart from bidders having the money, would he place on any sale? Again he thought it inappropriate to impose conditions on any sale but stated that he would ensure himself that any bid was the right deal for QPR. Did that include the City consortium who had made their interest public earlier that afternoon? They and anyone else who put in a firm bid, he stated.
Chris Wright wasn't the only person who had lost money with the collapse of the share price. He was though in a better position to shoulder the loss than many. What was his feelings on that? He was very sorry, of course, but football shares had performed poorly everywhere and we weren't the only club to suffer. What about accusations that he was really only interested in Wasps all along and that he has no interest in what happens to QPR? It was something he denied totally. Why had he used the incident at the Fulham game to step down as chairman and leave the club effectively rudderless? You are a rich businessman with diverse interests, we pointed out, surely you have not got where you are today without developing a thick skin? Anything but, he said, I am a very sensitive person, not thick-skinned at all. I take criticism very hard. I am used to dealing with singers, DJ's, actors - creative people. My skills lay in nurturing talent. But, yes, he agreed, the one thing QPR needed then, and needs now, is a 'hands-on' chairman. But it can no longer be himself. He had, we reminded him, actually got very little flak from the fans, certainly in comparison with chairmen at other clubs.
We talked about the concept of a supporters trust and what in-put one can have into the running of a football club. Both Chris Wright and Nick Blackburn stated they were receptive to the idea, and that they would be prepared to meet with QPR 1st on a regular basis. For now, on a weekly basis, we pitched? Fortnightly would be more realistic, given his full diary, responded Chris Wright. With that, and hour and a quarter after arriving, he was gone. Off to the BBC to give an interview to Radio Five.
The verdict of the meeting with him? He had given us a clear, unequivocal undertaking that there would be no merger with Wimbledon or any other club. He also stated that he would continue to do the best for QPR but it is always hard to pin someone down to hard specifics if they don't want to be pinned down. And the impression, as it always is with Chris Wright, is that he doesn't want to be pinned down. But the 'no merger' agreement was unequivocal enough - and all we can do is take that at face value. For now. No-one is under any illusions that there is a bigger game being played here. All we can really do is ensure to the best of our limited abilities that QPR fans are not treated as a pawn in all this, but as a major player whose views about the future of our club are paramount.
As we left the meeting and went home, Chris Wright was on Radio Five, saying much the same as he'd said to us. Merger had never been a serious issue, and he himself had big reservations about it. It would never have gone through without the backing of the fans anyway - and, no, it was "extremely unlikely" a ballot would now take place. No mention that the majority verdict had already been given anyway. All part of the game, of course, and one only just begun.
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2011 7:51:34 GMT
QPR1st Special Report on the EGM - Friday 18th May 2001
The heart and soul remain the same, but the face of football has changed rapidly this past decade. So too has the nature of fans' protests. There is still a place for public demonstration of anger and frustration aimed at the manager, the board... even the team itself. But as the game evolves, so too must the culture of the ordinary fans. No longer are pitch invasions, sit-ins, or protesting outside on the street the only option for fans to add voice to their discontent. In the Eighties we had fanzines, in the Nineties we had the growth of independent supporter associations, and here in the new millennium we have supporters trusts.
There is still a lot of suspicion and mistrust about what exactly is a supporters trust - most of it from the boardroom, where the notion of supporters having meaningful in-put into the running of their club is seen as impractical at best, threatening at worst. We fans pay our money at the turnstiles, and that for many chairmen is as far as it goes when it comes to supporter involvement in the running of their club. Which would be fine if they weren't making such a pig's ear of it in general.
But supporters trusts are the future. Run on co-operative principles, open and accountable, supporters trusts may not yet be custodians of their club, but they are very much the guardians. Ask Bournemouth fans, or Lincoln fans, or Northampton fans. Without the formation of supporters trusts at those clubs, all three would now no longer exist. We have seen the future in action, and it works.
QPR 1st, formed under that same co-operative principle, has to conform to strict rules and is regulated, directly by Supporters Direct, indirectly by Government, to ensure that it does. In line with that, our ultimate aim is to gain elected supporter representation on the board. That Chris Wright, with Nick Blackburn alongside him nodding in agreement, isn't sure that an ordinary fan would be appropriate "as it would mean wearing a suit in the boardroom" shows how far we have to go to make that a reality at QPR. At least, under the present directors.
Perhaps that attitude goes some way to explaining why there has been a high turnover of Chief Executives and related positions at QPR; men who have come to our club on big salaries and without the remotest idea or understanding of its culture and complexities, and left soon after... without achieving very much at all. Other than contributing further to the mountain of debt that has lead us into financial administration, that is. Should QPR be wound up as a result, you might find some comfort in fact that they at least wore a suit whilst leading us into oblivion.
Ah yes, the threat of being wound up. QPR no longer in existence. Defunct. To paraphrase Monty Python, an ex-club, one that has ceased to be. Not a threat hanging over the rugby union arm of the business. Wasps, we are told, were excluded from administration as rugby union rules do not allow clubs in administration to play. The Football League, on the other hand, does allow clubs in administration to fulfil their fixtures. No matter that the rugby union season was nearly ended, and we are talking here of one of the highest profile clubs in the land, currently second in the table, and the supplier of several international players. Would the authorities really take such draconian and immediate steps?
Within just a few days of the suspension of share dealing and BDO Stoy Hayward being appointed to run the financial affairs of the remainder of Loftus Road plc, there was an offer from Chris Wright to buy Wasps and the Twyford Avenue training ground for a fee of £5m. It transpired he had registered a brand new company, London Wasps Holdings, even before the High Court application for administration. Chris Wright explained that he was making an offer on Wasps and the training ground - leaving just QPR and Loftus Road under the plc banner - in order to reduce the debt and facilitate a sale of QPR and the ground to new owners. An EGM was arranged - called by Loftus Road plc - to approve the sales. With Chris Wright being the main creditor and majority shareholder of Loftus Road plc, then it is a formaility the sale will be approved.
The EGM was held at Loftus Road - not inside, but in the South Africa Road stand, a makeshift stand built over the directors box to accomodate the top table, and shareholders and guests sitting in the rows of seats alongside. A week that had begun in sweltering heat was now bordering on the chilly, and as the EGM progressed, so many amongst the 300 or so shareholders present began to regret not having worn a coat.
On the top table sat Chris Wright, and alongside him various directors and at least three lawyers. No Nick Blackburn, QPR's acting chairman. The meeting was chaired by Ross Jones, who stated he was a banker - of the investment, rather than high street branch variety, it was guessed. He chaired what proved a stormy and eventful meeting as even-handedly as anyone could reasonably expect.
There were four resolutions to be voted on. They related to the sale of Wasps, the sale of the Twyford Avenue training ground, to convert the single preference share into an ordinary one, and for a change to the memorandum and articles. The first two resolutions are self-explanatory. The second two, without going into lengthy explanations, related to a spot of plc 'tidying up' should the sale of Wasps be approved. As part of the plc, Wasps Trustees held a 'golden share', which gave them extra power and veto rights over any decision which would adversely effect Wasps. Now no longer part of the plc, there was no need for that one golden share, and it could safely be converted to an ordinary one. The changes to the articles simply amounted to removing references to Wasps.
In the week leading up to the EGM, QPR 1st had made formal requests to have included in the resolutions amendments which would allow for any bidder for Loftus Road plc to buy back either Wasps or Twyford Avenue, or both, at the same price Chris Wright, and any partner, had paid for them. Although Chris Wright would not agree to such an amendment, he did provide written assurances that his own intentions were to facilitate such an arrangement. However, in the absence of any formal amendment, QPR 1st announced we would be voting against the sales on the basis that we did not feel either was in the best long-term interests of Queens Park Rangers.
We were represented at the meeting by Maurice FitzGerald, who leads on shareholding, and Bill Butler, who is a commercial banking expert. Both are members of the QPR 1st Interim Committee. We were given a mandate by the floor at the Hammersmith Town Hall to take forward the business of the supporters trust and form a bona fide organisation under the Supporters Direct initiative within three calendar months. As an interim committee, we are able to co-opt other fans for specific tasks. Maurice has been an interim committee member since the formation, and Bill was formally asked to join the committee to utilise his skills and experience at the EGM. The right man for the right job. Both Maurice and Bill attended the meeting, legitimately, as ordinary shareholders, but with the mandate to act on behalf of QPR 1st.
The meeting began, unexpectedly, with a question and answer session. We say 'unexpectedly', as it had been reported that no questions would be allowed at the meeting, If that had ever been so, this more pragmatic approach helped keep the meeting to a semblance of order. Chris Wright took the lead in answering most of the questions from the audience. It appears that the blame for the proposed merger with Wimbledon could be laid at the feet of other board members and Wimbledon FC. The poor performances on the pitch this past season was the fault of Gerry Francis and the players. The mountain of debt the plc is now buried under was due to the extravagances and mismanagement of various individuals. And the succession of failed managers at the club was all the fault of the fans, who had called for the men appointed. Everyone, it seems, shares in the situation the club now finds itself in.
Chris Wright talked at length about how long fat contracts for lazy fat players had cost us our place in the First Division. He went on to say that they were making offers to some senior players, who he fully expects will advertise their availability to other clubs in search of a better deal... before coming back to QPR to sign on for another stint. No mention of telling them where to get off if they do. Chris Wright really does give the impression of a man who never learns from his own mistakes, but who has 20/20 hindsight when judging those of others.
The fun really begun when the question arose as to the value of the Twyford Avenue training ground. Did the figure of £2.5m, accepted by the adminstrator as a fair valuation, relate to the actual value of the land ('as is') or what it might be worth ('hope value') should, for example, planning permission, be granted in future years. Valuations carried out by members of the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors must adhere strictly to the rules laid down in what is known as their 'red book'. Banks, too, will only lend money on 'as is' valuation, not what might be realised from a sell-on in the future. How then had the £2.5m valuation been arrived at, and by whom, and where was the finance for the deal coming from?
If planning permission was one day granted for redevelopment of the training ground, and the land suddenly rocketed in value to, say, £20m, £30m or even £50m (the 'uplift'), then as the resolution stood now, the profit on any sell-on would go in full to Chris Wright. And partner. That's business, we guess. But is it in keeping with the oft-stated promise to protect the interests of QPR? Maybe, maybe not - but it is a perfect example of how, in trying to balance the demands of business and pleasure, a chairman can find himself firmly between a rock and a hard place. Chris Wright's favourite line is that Richard Branson is a businessman playing at being a hippy, and he is a hippy playing at being a businessman. Perhaps he's told it so often he has started to believe it himself. Someone has to.
The resolution, as it stood, had no provision for a sharing of any up-lift. A bit like a transfer deal without a sell-on clause. Would Chris Wright, asked the man from CARA, the local residents association, agree then to an amendment to the resolution, which would provide for a sharing out of any future windfall from the sale or redevelopment of the training ground?
Chris Wright went into a huddle with his lawyers and emerged figuratively reaching into his back pocket and offered 10 per cent of any up-lift to QPR, and a further 10 per cent to Wasps. "That is totally unacceptable," responded Bill, who then called for a straightforward three-way split between Chris Wright, QPR and Wasps, or thirty-three and a third per cent each. Chris Wright was by this time looking increasingly pale, and not through the cold. A robust 20 minutes of old-fashioned horse-trading ensued, with Bill holding firm on the principle of proportional sharing and arguing the finer points of banking practice and law with the top table, as he is qualified to do.
From what Chris Wright was saying in reply, it began to appear that it wasn't a bank funding the purchase, but in fact private money. That was confirmed when Chris Wright referred at one point to "various people offering financial backing". So a private individual or company then? Maybe a property company or a developer? Chris Wright wouldn't say. The penny by now had dropped amongst the assembled shareholders. As had become apparent to us throughout the preceding week, there was clearly more to the purchase of the training ground than mere goodwill on the part of Chris Wright.
Eventually, after many exchanges, Loftus Road witnessed one its more bizarre sights - Bill and Maurice standing in a stairwell with the lawyers, redrafting the resolution to include provision for a one-third share of any future up-lift - potentially worth millions to QPR - and arguing over the legal interpretations and implications of such phrases as 'change of use'. Finally satisfied with the wording, Bill, Maurice and the lawyers returned to their respective seats and the resolution was read out again. Not, though, the amended version, but bizarrely the original. Bill stood up and objected again. Again, argument and counter-argument ensued, with the top table increasingly looking totally disorganised and unable to grasp what was going on... a suitable snapshot of the past five years, some suggested later.
Chris Wright continued to prevaricate over the question of thirty-three and a third per cent. But he wasn't be asked to commit to that figure - he couldn't anyway - merely to commit to the principle of going back to his financial backers and obtaining that figure. He was asked this specific question over a dozen times, before finally agreeing to do so. Two votes amongst the shareholders present followed, in which the original resolution was unanimously rejected in favour of the new, amended one.
Sadly, that doesn't mean that QPR can look forward to a massive windfall in a few years' time. To begin with, any new buyer for the club has both written and publicly stated assurances that they can buy-back either Wasps and the Twyford Avenue training ground, or both, if they wish to. It also seems unlikely, at least in the present climes, that planning permission would be granted for the site, although it is reasonable to assume that if it is a building company backing Chris Wright, they will be reasonably confident that won't always be the case. The Sudbury site of Wasps old ground didn't have planning permission at the time Loftus Road plc was formed, although that later changed on appeal and saw the value rise to around the £8m, a sum the company subsequently realised from its sale. The site now houses luxury homes in the lower to middle six-figure price bracket.
On top of this, even allowing for the amendment, Chris Wright's majority shareholding will eventually ensure that the proposed figures are down-sized, but where before there was no provision for QPR to receive a share of any up-lift, now there is something, although the chances of QPR benefiting from it remain remote. Chris Wright, despite objections from the floor - "Is it right and proper that someone with a vested interest in the deal should vote on it too?" - exercised his right to vote as a shareholder.
One of the considerations of voting against the deal was how it might affect the continued financial backing of Chris Wright. After the EGM, Bill sought him out to explain that there was nothing personal in the exchanges over the previous two hours. He had, he explained, merely been acting in the best interests of QPR. Chris Wright, in turn, assured Bill that there was no question of his withdrawing funds, and was verbally explicit in saying that he would do "absolutely anything" to facilitate the sale of QPR into good hands. We really do not doubt that Chris Wright is committed to that, and let the record state as much.
One sour note to the EGM, though, came when QPR 1st co-founder, Tracy Stent, along with other guests, was asked to leave the meeting and re-register. Having done so, Tracy was alone subsequently refused re-entry. Not a shareholder, she had been asked to attend as a guest on behalf of an elderly shareholder unable to go along in person. She did not force her way in, as was suggested by the top table, but legitimately presented her admission card, explained the circumstances of her attendance and was shown up to the meeting. Although within their rights to ask Tracy to leave on a matter of technical procedure, it was disappointing that board chose to do so. No official protest will be pursued, though. All the same, it is difficult to understand why it was done. Tracy subsequently visited the shareholder in person to explain the circumstances, and apologise for not being able to provide a first-hand report of proceedings.
The sale of Wasps (voted on and agreed without objection) and the training ground will realise £1.4m, of which QPR will see just £400,000. The remaining £3.6m of the combined deal will be written off the existing debt, which includes a £600,000 loan made by Chris Wright on March 13. The deal gives QPR a guaranteed five years' tenancy at the training ground, with a 12-month notice period thereafter. QPR will pay what has been described as a 'commercial rent' to use the facility, and Wasps will in turn pay a 'commercial rent' to play at Loftus Road. It is envisaged that QPR will train in the mornings, Wasps in the afternoon, and the Wasps amateur teams in the evening.
Although powerless to prevent the sale, this was still a moral victory for QPR 1st. It brought out into the open various pieces of information that would otherwise have remained undisclosed. It exemplified how by utilising the skills within the fan-base, a supporters trust can and does act in the best interests of the club and the fans. It is merely a beginning. There is much to do, but the will and the organisation is there. We need a strong, well-supported and active trust at QPR and everyone has a part to play in that. If you haven't registered support for QPR 1st, do it now. You won't be committing to anything other than your backing for the kind of in-put Bill and Maurice had at the EGM.
There were plenty of impassioned speeches from the floor, with Joe Hylton again to the fore, but the star of the show was undoubtedly Bill Butler. Without his persistence and doggedness, supported by others, but unequalled when it came to challenging financial issues, QPR would today be a little poorer as a result. The likes of David Mellor and Gary Newbon can rubbish QPR supporters all they like, but here was the acceptable face of fan-power in action. To the casual observer it might have been just another day, and another chapter in the life and troubled times of Queens Park Rangers Football Club. But to the thousands of fans who have pledged their support to the new supporters trust, and to the lucky few who were present, this was the day that the bloodied QPR fan decided to stand up for himself at long last. The blue and white hooped genie is out of the bottle and nothing - and certainly no individual - will ever force it back.
"One Bill Butler... there's only one Bill Butler..." went the chant as the meeting closed and people headed off to get warm at last. It seems you can take the shareholder out of the fan, but you can't take the fan out of the shareholder… Chris Wright, meanwhile, hurried out of Loftus Road and climbed into his chauffeur-driven Rolls Royce and sped off to Lords for the test match - an incongruous image against the backdrop of the White City Estate.
Just an old hippy? Who's he kidding?
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2011 7:52:35 GMT
QPR1st
April 18th...2001
Dave Barton Live At Hammersmith...
On the way to the meeting tonight I was a little apprehensive. I was worried about how it would all go and if the people in attendance would be hostile to the idea of a supporters trust. I needn't have worried.
Upon arriving we were handed a Supporters Direct booklet, which contained lots of useful info on what Supporters Direct is all about.
I haven't had a chance to read it all yet but it mostly stuff that can be found on their web site for those who want to read more. On everyone's seat was a form explaining how the evening will work and who the speakers are.
It also gave you the chance to sign up for membership to QPR 1ST and explained how this all came about.
The hall was pretty packed as the interim committee took their seats and the meeting begun. Chairing the meeting was a QPR fan called David Price and he thanked everyone for attending before asking us to all rise for a minutes silence on honour of the late great Alec Stock.
The silence was greeted with the respect it deserved. David introduced the speakers, which were Brian Lomax (chairmen of the Supporters Direct), Tracy Stent (QPR 1st co-ordinator), Symon Eales (LSA Treasurer), Maurice Fitzgerald (shareholders), Dave Thomas (AKUTR's) and Justin Pieris (ASB QPR Supporters team).
Members of the local council were also introduced and were the first to speak. The first to speak was a season ticket holder at QPR, apologies for not remembering his name, he spoke of his passion for the club and how we wants to do all he can to help the club.
He mentioned that the council wanted QPR to stay in the borough and offered his services to help in any way he could. One suggestion he made was to try and speak to the board of directors and the administrators about how much the club means to the local community, which received applause from those in attendance.
Next up was our local MP Clive Soley, who continued on the same theme saying how proud the council is to have three top class teams in the borough and they want to keep it that way. He spoke of wanting three premiership teams and wanting to do all he could to keep QPR going. He did stress though that the council would not be able to buy the club, which I think we all knew anyway.
He went on to explain how he wasn't a football fan but knew how important QPR was to the local community and he hoped that if we all pull together we would get back to Division one which caused much amusement but it seemed a genuine mistake. (Perhaps he was reading his speech for the next meeting)
Later the local Mayor Andrew Slaughter who came in to speak and just added to what the previous two guys had said that he wanted QPR to stay in the borough and would do all he could to keep QPR going. He mentioned the impressive turnout comparing it with the recent meeting for Fulham, which got a few boos. The supporters in attendance seemed encouraged by his words and it was now the turn of the QPR supporters to speak.
First up was Tracy Stent who told us she was very nervous about speaking. She shouldn't have been though as she spoke with real passion and enthusiasm about what a Supporters Trust is all about.
I won't go into huge details of what she said, the main point of her speech was to explain what a supporters trust is and how as QPR fans we must take this opportunity to start this trust to hand down the club to future generations.
This comment in particular seemed to hit the nail on the head for many people who love this club. Tracy also explained how this was a one member one vote system which was a very important point.
She also explained how they would be bringing around some buckets to raise some money. Tracy showed the hall a copy of the bank account waiting to be set up explaining how the co-oprative bank have accounts for football trusts to help raise money for day to day costs and enable the initiative to have some money to spend as the members wish. I would imagine the initial money raised will go towards printing posters and sending out leaflets to members during the summer.
Tracy received a huge ovation for her speech with some standing up and applauding, it was all going rather well so far.
Next up was a very long speech from Brian Lomax. Brian gave a very interesting talk about how supporter's trusts came about and his own experiences with the club he supports, Northampton. I won't be able to cover all of his points here as he made so man but he basically explained how Northampton went into administration in 1992 and supporters gathered to form a trust and try and bring the club back to the fans.
The club had debts of over £1.5million and with gates of 2,000 it was not a good position. The fans rallied round and with help from the council they made sure that whoever bought the club had to have a Northampton fan on the board and made that a condition for building the new stadium. Brian was one of those voted onto the board and spoke of the ideas the supporters brought forward which helped them clear the debts and make a profit. Some of these included excellent disabled facilities and making the club work within the community to make the local people proud of the club and raise attendances.
I can't do Brians speech justice here but it was quite interesting to hear how well this worked and he went on to tell us how other clubs have followed his lead and that as chairmen of Supporters Direct they have the backing of the FA, Football League, Premier League and Government to make this work.I fear some may have switched off during his talk as he did go on a bit but it was really good of him to travel down to speak to us and his views and information were very helpful I felt in giving us a better understanding of what the trust was all about.
Next up was Simon from the LSA. Simon spoke briefly saying that he was pleased to see so many members of the LSA here tonight but that he could not speak for all members. He announced there would be a ballot to all LSA members whether to join QPR 1ST or not. He added that the LSA and QPR 1ST were not in competition with each over and gave the impression he was very keen to see the formation of this trust.
Introduced next was Maurice Fitzgerald who runs a local business. Maurice told the room how he wants to pull together all shareholders into one. He mentioned that he had a list of all QPR fans who were shareholders and would be contacting all of them in the coming days/weeks. The idea was to give all shareholders a voice as most of us only have a few hundred pounds worth of shares and they are not worth a penny now.
He went on to tell us how he had spoken to local business around Uxbridge and Goldhawk road about the impact QPR have on them. It was not surprising to know that they all loved to have the club in the area as money must roll in to local pubs, restaurants and shops on match days and the impact that no QPR would have was bigger than some will have imagined.
Dave Thomas was next to speak looking very smart in a suit. DT did not
disappoint with an absolutely brilliant speech. I don't want to take anything away from the others who all spoke brilliantly but DT seemed to sum up exactly what this club means to us. I'll try and recall as much as possible.
He started by saying "Cometh the Hour, Cometh the fans" before getting a bit for stick for wearing a suit.
Dave mentioned how "bloody irnoic" it was that the great Alec Stock had died this week. It did not go unoticed that the man who took QPR out of Division three has died with the club set to go back to where we were before Stock came to Rangers. This was met with many nods of agreement around the hall.
DT was soon in full flow though saying how if a 120 year old building was set to be knocked down then their would be an outrage but a 120 year old football club does not seem to matter, it's only QPR after all.
The disgusting local media coverage was mentioned with just three lines given in the Gazette to this meeting, as DT said, the competition to push a trolley round the new shopping centre to be built on Loftus Road would get more coverage.
Dave brought home to us all what this all means to us, we don't want to lose our club and the Fulham Park Rangers saga was mentioned by DT when he said the fans stopped that happening and can stop the club dying again. One comment I did like was that the Daily News (can't remember if that's the right name for the paper) offered season tickets to Fulham Park Rangers. That newspaper is not around anymore but QPR is, DT did not know what happened to Fulham though.
DT compared the difference between QPR and other business well saying how if a new manager comes into your local supermarket who cares? But when a new manager comes in to QPR we talk about it non-stop. DT received a standing ovation for his words, as with all the speakers I can't begin to do them justice here but believe me it was enough to make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up.
Last of the speakers was Justin "Juzza" Pieris and I didn't envy him having to follow DT. Juzza responded though with some brilliant words. He explained how the ASB team was formed. It started out with just seven blokes playing in a park and grew to a team with one Spurs fan. That then grew into the ASB becoming British Champions four years out of five and just showed how something small can grow into something a lot bigger. (No jokes please) Juzza also received a huge ovation as those of us in attendance were offered the chance to ask questions.
This would be my only complaint of the evening, as several questions seemed to be met without answers. I don't think this is the fault of any of the committee but perhaps some standard answers could have been prepared before hand. It wasn't a major problem though as I think everyone's questions were fully answered eventually.
The main question at first was "What are you actually going to do for us", the question came in different forms but it seemed many were still confused as to what the supporters trust was. Juzza and DT tried to answer this but many still seemed confused. Brian tried to explain again as did Sean, who is a Celtic fan who is part of the Celtic trust. Sean seemed to explain it a little better saying that protests by fans are a thing of the past as they worked years ago but now they are dismissed. The difference that a trust can make is massive as supporters have a voice which is not just a couple of fans who can be ignored and QPR fans will have a chance to put our fears, concerns and ideas across to the club.
This appeared to help explain the idea but still some queries remained as to what involvement the committee have had with the administrators already. Juzza was quick to point out that the meeting they had with the administrators was not the most fruitful. They asked if the fans could be told of any bids and developments but were not given any assurances that this could be done. This seemed to worry the majority of us who were perhaps hoping to hear something a little more positive come out of that initial meeting but I am not sure that they are allowed to share such details with the supporters, I could be wrong though.
Another to speak was a guy called John who handed out those leaflets on Monday. He basically said the same thing as was on those leaflets about how this was a good idea and that the club must stay local but warned that he had received a call from Nick Blackburn who had told him that part of the deal of selling the club is that the ground is sold.
That was rather worrying news but why Nick Blackburn would choose to phone a supporter to tell him this is a little strange but wouldn't be the first time Mr Blackburn has telephoned supporters so don't dismiss that news out of hand.
Following on from that, one supporter asked if QPR 1ST was aligned with the Socialist Party after John had given out leaflets promoting QPR 1st via this political party.
DT announced that the trust is in no way aligned to any political party, the trust is for QPR fans and will work in the best interests of QPR fans only. This went down well as I feel the leaflet handed out on Monday worried many in attendance.
Some good points were made about moving from the area. This appeared to be the main concern among supporters with the majority speaking out against moving ground but one bloke asked fans not to dismiss the idea of moving as still having a club was more important.
During this discussion came the quote of the night, which was ' I don't want to go to a Beefeater in Egham'.
It was pointed out to the Mayor that the reason we didn't expand the current stadium is because the council made the land to expensive and houses were built instead. The Mayor responded by suggesting it was the clubs fault that they showed no interest in the land and if they had a deal could have been arranged. He mentioned the speculation at the time of QPR moving away to Heathrow could have had something to do with the decision not to expand Loftus Road.
The committee listened to all these comments but could not really say much on them, as that wasn't the point of tonight's meeting but it seems this will be a huge issue in the future and what with the council seeming to back us in wanting to stay in the area that was a big positive to take from the evening.
One supporter asked the Mayor is Loftus Road could become a listed building to only be used for football. Obviously the Mayor could not say too much on this but said it was something that could be looked at. Other comments made all seemed to be supportive to the idea of QPR 1ST and many thanked the hard work, which has already been done.
I felt the evening was going very well and everyone seemed to be trying to be positive to the idea. One guy who had earlier asked a couple of questions as to what the point was came back on the microphone to tell the committee that he would like to thank them for what they have done and explain that he feels that most people attending tonight expecting to hear what actions will be taken next but wanted to make it clear that everyone was behind the idea.
One idea brought forward was to perhaps print out posters or leaflets to give out at games. The point of this would be aimed towards Chris Wright to ask him to wipe off the debts the club have and give us a chance to start again. Juzza explained that Chris Wright holds all the cards at the moment and DT added that the one thing which would scare him is the supporters.
One guy took a different view to this saying that Wright seemed a sensitive man and if we want to get through to him we should do so by trying to speak to him rather than scare him which I felt was a good point.
The main worry, other than the ground move, seemed to be that the clubs assets could be sold off before anything is done. Brian explained that the trust could take months to put into place if we follow the structure, which have proved successful elsewhere.
What many were worried about was that the club, stadium and players could all be sold off before the trust is formed and then what do we do?
Good PR was also mentioned and one guy said he offered his services to the club to help them out as he works in PR but didn't get much of a look in. He kindly offered his services to QPR 1ST.
Other comments and questions included what happens next and how do supporters get feedback when the season ends. Tracy stepped in to explain that info would be given out on the Internet and newsletters sent out to those who have signed up.
The same guy also said that he had heard there were twelve parties interested in buying QPR. Juzza confirmed that the administrators had told those who met wit them that six parties were interested but obviously things are progressing by the day.
One of the lasting memories of the evening came from Joe Hylton who gave two of the most passionate speeches I have heard in a long time. You could feel the emotion in his voice as he offered his shares to the trust and spoke of how proud he was at the turnout.
Joe spoke very intelligently about how Loftus Road has the best train and bus access of any club in the country and just spoke so much common sense you wondered why talk of a ground move ever became an issue.
Joe spoke again later on praising the hard work of everyone so far and gave a rousing note to everyone to get along to the last two away games, as we have to stay up. If I hadn't have already bought a ticket for both games I would have gone straight to Loftus Road and camped out to get a ticket.
With time running out David Price asked for a vote. First for the setting up of QPR1ST Supporter's Trust, second the interim committee to come back with rough objectives of the supporter's trust and lastly to get legal advice on fund raising, etc.
All were met with a sea of raised hands and shouts of UR'S as the evening ended with a standing ovation for all the hard work put in and it felt like a new beginning for us supporters.
As we all left I felt a sense of real pride and that I had just witnessed history being made.
Thank you to everyone who worked so hard to make this all possible tonight and well done to every QPR fan that attended. I really feel we can make a difference now and more proud to be a QPR supporter tonight than I have been in a long time.
Come on You R's
Dave Barton
All views expressed are of the named contributor, and do not necessarily reflect those of this website, or QPR 1st
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2011 7:53:26 GMT
QPR1st May 5, 2001
"Merger Thursday": We Meet Chris Wright
A horrible day. QPR fans woke up to the breaking news that, 14 years on from the last proposed merger, another was on the cards. This time it wasn't Fulham, but Wimbledon. Different club, same reaction.
So, first, a press release - in which we state our opposition to the proposed merger and promise to fight it all the way. We do so in the belief that the overwhelming majority of QPR fans will be opposed to such an idea. "Working to protect the identity of and future of Queens Park Rangers". That is the platform on which we launched QPR 1st. Here then is our first big test. We are an organisation just three weeks into existence, still sifting through close to 2,000 registrations and putting in place a truly democratic 'one member, one vote' set-up. In that time, we have had a thousand people turn up to a public meeting and provide overwhelming support for the idea of setting up a supporters trust.
We have backing from the government, from the FA, the Football League, and the PFA. We receive support from the council, from the Mayor, from the local MP, and from the Shepherds Bush business community. We now have the voting power of over two million shares pledged. Of course, that is insignificant compared to Chris Wright's majority shareholding, but as a meaningful lobby of small shareholders, it is a hugely significant figure.
So the wording of the press release, then. We promise to fight any merger. It is our unshakeable belief that it is something the overwhelming majority of QPR fans are opposed to and state as much. Predictably, from some, there is criticism that we don't represent the views of ALL the fans - not something, to the best of our belief and knowledge, we have ever done. There are those who in favour of a merger, we accept that. And indeed respect their views.
But we're a democratic organisation, and the messages of support from people registering support for QPR 1st merely confirm our unshakeable belief that the majority of QPR fans oppose a merger. It is all very well arguing that, if looked at unemotionally, the merger is a good business proposition. Which of course it is. But you can't conveniently take the emotional aspect out of the equation. Choosing to support a football club is not a cold decision. It's one that comes from the heart, and is pursued via an emotional roller-coaster. That's the appeal, the very essence of supporting a club. Those of us who came to the fore to take QPR 1st forward - not just for our own benefit, but for all QPR fans who share our beliefs and visions - bleed blue and white. If you love something - truly love something, even if it is only a football club - then you'll not only nurture it, you'll fight tooth and nail to protect it. We are QPR. We are not QPR incorporating anyone else.
The amount of vitriol that comes our way because of that stance is astonishing. There are ridiculous suggestions that we knew about the merger three weeks ago, although nothing to explain why we would wish to keep that to ourselves. We are accused of everything from being "unrepresentative" (don't think so!) to being a cosy little clique with all sorts of hidden agendas (not so). What an insult that is to those who have pledged support for QPR 1st, numbers which are rising rapidly every day. In fact so vitriolic is it at times, that you would be forgiven for thinking it was almost orchestrated. At least we always put our proper names to, for example, postings on the Internet. It's interesting that so much of the criticism of QPR 1st comes from anonymous sources. Fine, democracy means that those who support the merger are entitled to form their own collective voice. Let them come to Molineux on Sunday and canvass support.
So the wording of the press release contains no prevarication. As a responsible organisation, of course we have to listen to the proposals with an open mind. But they are splashed all over the newspapers, and in turn reproduced on the Internet. There's nothing in the proposals to make us believe the majority of QPR fans will view this merger any differently to the one in 1987, or significantly oppose it any less.
The merger story in the Sun can, we decide, be looked at from one of three perspectives. Firstly, that it is the route Chris Wright and the administrators are set on. In which case, it is something that will inevitably be fought by fans of both clubs. Secondly, it is a story deliberately leaked to the press and designed to create a smokescreen whereby the fear of merger tempts a firm bid to the table. So far, we are told, there have been 30 or so expressions of interest in buying QPR but no firm bid tabled. Nothing like a good scare story to propel potential buyers into action. Thirdly, it is a classic negotiating tactic - present a worst case scenario, then downgrade it to something not quite so unpalatable, but something which in itself would have met opposition. A groundshare perhaps? A sell-off of Loftus Road and QPR groundsharing somewhere else? A move to a new stadium? It's all guesswork, but the meeting with Chris Wright this evening will present an opportunity to sort out some fact from fiction. Or not as the case may be.
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The meeting with Chris Wright and representatives from QPR 1st, had been agreed a week or more beforehand. The objective of it was to obtain first-hand information about his plans and intentions for QPR. It was also to convey the aims and objectives of a supporters trust and take the first step in what we hope will eventually lead to a 'listening club' - not one that merely pays lip service to the notion that the fan-base should be an inclusive part of the way the club is run, not peripheral to it. But of course the merger was now the key issue to address.
Would the story coming out in the papers (a coincidence or timely?) and the protests which had gone on all day, both outside Loftus Road and at the FA, scupper the meeting. We assembled, nine of us from the Interim Commitee, there representing QPR 1st, but equally drawn from across the broad spectrum of QPR support, incorporating the LSA, shareholders, webmasters, and A Kick Up The R's. Even up to the last minute we were waiting to confirm the location of the meeting. As it transpired, Nick Blackburn and Chris Wright came to us, not us to them
Nick Blackburn arrived first, and proceeded to tell us about the thinking behind the proposed merger. It seems it was first mooted at Selhurst Park after the 5-0 defeat by Wimbledon. He describes it as an idea discussed "half-heartedly" and as a "bit of a joke". They are not words, we are quick to point out, that are particularly appropriate to the future of our football club. It seems the idea was then discussed further at QPR board level and a more formal approach made to Wimbledon. Nick Blackburn said that the QPR board felt that, due to the financial difficulties facing the club, it was a proposal that merited a further look.
He asked us if we saw any merit in the merger or if the whole thing was the worst idea in the world? The latter, we informed him. Even if a merger meant come August we would be able to watch a team "wearing hoops" at Loftus Road, but with 'Wimbledon' incorporated into the club name, playing Manchester City in front of 20,000 fans, rather than QPR playing Bristol City in front of 8,000? Especially not if meant a team wearing hoops at Loftus Road, but with Wimbledon incorporated into the club name, playing Manchester City in front of 20,000 fans, we assured him. QPR then, QPR now, QPR always, to steal a line. We would rather watch QPR at the bottom of Division Three having retained our own identity, than watch some hybrid, mongrel club at any level. The continual use of the word 'hybrid' began to annoy Nick Blackburn after a while, we felt. Hybrid, mongrel, or whatever - what guarantee was there that the new amalgamated club would be successful. There were, we reminded him, alternative ways to fill a stadium. That was one of the ways in which QPR 1st could contribute. (Dare we suggest that a full stadium week in, week out is the wish of every QPR fan, or do we need to acknowledge that there are perhaps some fans who only want a half-full stadium?)
Chris Wright arrived not too long after. He sat down, and invited us to fire questions at him, anything we wanted to know. He would answer as honestly as could, he assured us. Tell us the precise situation QPR are in now, we invited.
He began by explaining the injuries which had blighted our season and eventually led to relegation. No, he wasn't happy with the performances, but impending relegation and the consequential worsening financial difficulties, whereby the club were potentially trading insolvently, forced the club into administration. Chris Wright is an engaging speaker in the surrounds of a less formal setting such as this, but there is still a feeling that you give him a cue and the well-rehearsed lines come out one after another. The product of a man who has been interviewed a thousand times, and forgiveable for that alone. There was nothing he said that any of us hadn't heard before. Until of course the point when he got to the merger.
He reiterated Nick Blackburn's views that it was merely an idea, one in fact that he himself had decided three days beforehand was a non-starter. Even so, he believed that many Football League clubs were looking at the possibility of merger - many Football League club's CHAIRMAN he agreed, after interjection on our part - and used the two Sheffield clubs as an illustration of how two medium sized clubs could merge to compete as one powerful one in a 50,000 stadium. The assumption that it would be a FULL stadium was one that didn't go unchallenged. Nor did Nick Blackburn's earlier suggestion that Loftus Road would be heaving with 20,000 punters desperate to see Quimbledon, or whatever the name was. More like a tenth of that, we suggested. And no support away from home.
It was always, he assured us, the club's intention to seeking the views of season ticket holders, shareholders and members, and the merger would only proceed if there was a significant majority against the idea. It would all have depended on the results of a ballot. And of the way it was worded, we interjected. It would have been a straightforward poll, he responded, and if the verdict had been anti-merger then he saw no way that QPR could go down that route.
We expressed shock that someone who is a fan, and around in 1987, should even begin to entertain a merger - a horrible word to QPR fans. Had the protests today come as a surprise to Chris Wright? No, they hadn't. Was he aware that whilst we might be sitting around the table in a calm manner, there were many, many very angry fans out there, some of whom were planning further protests both at Wolves on Sunday, and also at Loftus Road on Sunday? He didn't doubt it.
He was now talking in the past tense, we pointed out. Did this mean that no ballot would take place? The story breaking in the Sun, he felt, had scuppered any rational debate on the merits of the merger, so no it was not an option that the club would now persue. In any case the strength of feeling demonstrated at the ground, on the messageboards, and around the table here this evening had confirmed his own private feelings that a merger is not the way forward.
So what is the way forward? He confirmed that he would continue to fund the club until October, but of course a buyer may well come in tomorrow. And after October if no firm bid is recieved? What contingency plans did he have? None, was the short answer. But he stated he would not allow QPR to go bust. What conditions did he place on the sale? For example, would he consider selling Loftus Road separately to QPR? He promised he would do everything in his power to keep the two together.
What about the Wasps deal, which included Twyford Avenue as well? It seems he had kept Wasps out of the administration process as league rules meant any rugby club in administration would immediately be kicked out the league. The reason for buying the two was to reduce the debt linked to QPR, and therefore make it a more attractive proposition to any potential bidder. Would he agree to a clause whereby any bidder wanting to buy Wasps as part of the package could buy them and the training ground for the same price Chris Wright had paid. No, on balance, that wasn't something he was prepared to agree to. What about conditions of sale? What criteria, apart from bidders having the money, would he place on any sale? Again he thought it inappropriate to impose conditions on any sale but stated that he would ensure himself that any bid was the right deal for QPR. Did that include the City consortium who had made their interest public earlier that afternoon? They and anyone else who put in a firm bid, he stated.
Chris Wright wasn't the only person who had lost money with the collapse of the share price. He was though in a better position to shoulder the loss than many. What was his feelings on that? He was very sorry, of course, but football shares had performed poorly everywhere and we weren't the only club to suffer. What about accusations that he was really only interested in Wasps all along and that he has no interest in what happens to QPR? It was something he denied totally. Why had he used the incident at the Fulham game to step down as chairman and leave the club effectively rudderless? You are a rich businessman with diverse interests, we pointed out, surely you have not got where you are today without developing a thick skin? Anything but, he said, I am a very sensitive person, not thick-skinned at all. I take criticism very hard. I am used to dealing with singers, DJ's, actors - creative people. My skills lay in nurturing talent. But, yes, he agreed, the one thing QPR needed then, and needs now, is a 'hands-on' chairman. But it can no longer be himself. He had, we reminded him, actually got very little flak from the fans, certainly in comparison with chairmen at other clubs.
We talked about the concept of a supporters trust and what in-put one can have into the running of a football club. Both Chris Wright and Nick Blackburn stated they were receptive to the idea, and that they would be prepared to meet with QPR 1st on a regular basis. For now, on a weekly basis, we pitched? Fortnightly would be more realistic, given his full diary, responded Chris Wright. With that, and hour and a quarter after arriving, he was gone. Off to the BBC to give an interview to Radio Five.
The verdict of the meeting with him? He had given us a clear, unequivocal undertaking that there would be no merger with Wimbledon or any other club. He also stated that he would continue to do the best for QPR but it is always hard to pin someone down to hard specifics if they don't want to be pinned down. And the impression, as it always is with Chris Wright, is that he doesn't want to be pinned down. But the 'no merger' agreement was unequivocal enough - and all we can do is take that at face value. For now. No-one is under any illusions that there is a bigger game being played here. All we can really do is ensure to the best of our limited abilities that QPR fans are not treated as a pawn in all this, but as a major player whose views about the future of our club are paramount.
As we left the meeting and went home, Chris Wright was on Radio Five, saying much the same as he'd said to us. Merger had never been a serious issue, and he himself had big reservations about it. It would never have gone through without the backing of the fans anyway - and, no, it was "extremely unlikely" a ballot would now take place. No mention that the majority verdict had already been given anyway. All part of the game, of course, and one only just begun.
Dave Thomas (Fri May 5th 2001)
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2012 6:47:38 GMT
Bump...
Truly the Bad Old Days! (And yet....)
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2013 9:00:45 GMT
Bump....
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2014 9:02:05 GMT
Bump again. I imagine there are still things out there and known about that time which have not been written about...
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2015 8:48:06 GMT
Bump: The early days
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2016 5:59:54 GMT
BUmp
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 1, 2017 9:00:50 GMT
Flashback 16 Years - Terrible times...And making whether or not we're promoted...puts more into perspective
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