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« Reply #420 on May 6, 2011, 8:32am » | |
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« Reply #421 on May 6, 2011, 8:36am » | |
Or from shitetu!
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« Reply #422 on May 6, 2011, 9:18am » | |
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« Reply #423 on May 6, 2011, 9:21am » | |
Just thank G-d we won at Watford, giving us the Championship...Makes a big difference I think
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« Reply #424 on May 6, 2011, 9:25am » | |
Andy Gray and Richard Keys are talking a lot of air on talksport
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« Reply #425 on May 6, 2011, 9:31am » | |
mark palios seems to talk without knowing any facts. i know he is a knowledgable man and well respected but he was just giving an interview on talksport and basically condemmed us to a playoff place but didnt actually discuss or mention any of the facts regarding the case. (and im aware that facts are hard to find and a lot of speculation has been made but u know wat i mean)
just my opinion so dont shoot me down but im pretty dissapointed that such a respected figure has been so daming of the case
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« Reply #426 on May 6, 2011, 9:34am » | |
He admitted to not knowing the facts - and clearly said IF found guilty then he would expect a 10-15 point deduction. I don't feel he was damming the case, just answering the questions thrown at him.
Unfortunately no one other than the people in that room will be able to give any actual facts.
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« Reply #427 on May 6, 2011, 9:37am » | |
Switch to talksport now talking about Dallas ophhs Rangers
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« Reply #428 on May 6, 2011, 9:42am » | |
May 6, 2011, 9:34am, eskey8 wrote:He admitted to not knowing the facts - and clearly said IF found guilty then he would expect a 10-15 point deduction. I don't feel he was damming the case, just answering the questions thrown at him.
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yeah sorry i may have not got my point accross properly.
i didnt mean he was trying to imply he knew anything. just mean he was basically saying we are going to get a deduction in his opinion and he didnt refer to anything about us maybe being not guilty. Or anything to do about us apparently making a lot of things transparent with the whole signing.
for someone of his previous position his opinion will be listened to by a lot of people.
anyway im probably just letting Richard Keys get to me (as per usual) and venting my frustration thru the means of a forum.
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« Reply #429 on May 6, 2011, 10:14am » | |
OK ive decided i cant take no more, this whole thing has made me sick, like taking medication sick...
so im not looking at anything until later this evening, like for everyone, its totally doing my head in.. all i can say is this,
to all Rangers fans everywhere, enjoy tomorrow, WE ARE CHAMPIONS, WE'RE TOP OF THE LEAGUE and after everything WE DID IT...... NOONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US... WE F**** DID IT... IM SO PROUD OF OUR TEAM......
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« Reply #430 on May 6, 2011, 10:32am » | |
Talksport news just reported rumors are saying we will find out the decision today. just rumors mind
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« Reply #432 on May 6, 2011, 10:33am » | |
Skysports say that hearing is finished. statement at 4. however decision might not be until next week.
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« Reply #433 on May 6, 2011, 12:57pm » | |
Just back from stadium and had a chat with Bryan Swanson who is the sky reporter who's been outside all week.
I asked why he was still there if the hearing was over and he confirmed that they had stopped hearing evidence but the deliberations were ongoing and he had a hunch that they might sneak out a statement tonight. He said that the whole thing was so cloak and dagger that they don't really know who is on the panel and anyone who says they do is speculating (he's seen no sign of Dein or Shearer)
He thought that there were huge implications for the panel not deciding before the final games and that it was likely that any decision would be challenged by someone. He also said that the Premiership would be furious if the FA tried to apply a point deduction that applied to next season.
I spent a lot of time telling him how upsetting it was to fans that we seem to have had our celebration stolen from us and how many of us had put up with 15 years of crap to have this moment stolen was criminal.
I also said that if they got rid of Paladini that would be great (that one was for you Mike).
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« Reply #434 on May 6, 2011, 1:00pm » | |
cheers eus. i do hope we find out soon.
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« Reply #435 on May 6, 2011, 1:03pm » | |
Either way we're screwed tomorrow!
Denied automotic promotion, we'll be depressed tomorrow...
Be acknowledged as Champions, we (and the players) Will have too much of a hangover!
No doubt even if cleared on every point, this has been tarnished.
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« Reply #436 on May 6, 2011, 1:05pm » | |
But if I was the FA, it's probably safer to clear us on most things than convict us. Cos conviction will lead to appeals and who knows what. Whereas clearing us, may lead others to kvetch and scoff, but don't see how there's any legal problem for them.
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« Reply #437 on May 6, 2011, 1:06pm » | |
but its an independent commission mac, so these guys dont care if the FA are sued.
end of the day the commission should look to act on the facts (if there are any).
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« Reply #438 on May 6, 2011, 1:10pm » | |
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« Reply #439 on May 6, 2011, 1:11pm » | |
May 6, 2011, 1:03pm, Macmoish wrote:Either way we're screwed tomorrow!
Denied automotic promotion, we'll be depressed tomorrow...
Be acknowledged as Champions, we (and the players) Will have too much of a hangover!
No doubt even if cleared on every point, this has been tarnished. |
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Yes its been tarnished, no doubts about that now.
The FA havent exactly covered themselves in glory here ( understatement of the year ), but its just F*cking disgusting really, & its a shame because QPR is a good club, a nice club & the fans dont deserve this, nor do the players & management, but for the fans, its just disgusting.
Fans should be out celebrating & having a drink & a chat with each other, but instead are feeling like this, what can you say ?
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« Reply #440 on May 6, 2011, 1:11pm » | |
@ Gib
An independent commission generally establishes corruption and recommends a civil or criminal court action ?
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« Reply #441 on May 6, 2011, 1:13pm » | |
May 6, 2011, 1:11pm, klr wrote:
May 6, 2011, 1:03pm, Macmoish wrote:Either way we're screwed tomorrow!
Denied automotic promotion, we'll be depressed tomorrow...
Be acknowledged as Champions, we (and the players) Will have too much of a hangover!
No doubt even if cleared on every point, this has been tarnished. |
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Yes its been tarnished, no doubts about that now.
The FA havent exactly covered themselves in glory here ( understatement of the year ), but its just F*cking disgusting really, & its a shame because QPR is a good club, a nice club & the fans dont deserve this, nor do the players & management, but for the fans, its just disgusting.
Fans should be out celebrating & having a drink & a chat with each other, but instead are feeling like this, what can you say ? |
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Well said ... but we should of known that anything that piece of Italian crap has to do with the club always fecks up.
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« Reply #442 on May 6, 2011, 1:18pm » | |
Eusebio that mate is the scoop of the year. Isnt this fun ![[image]](http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh20/fatbirdie/f_tongueincheek.gif "[image]")
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« Reply #443 on May 6, 2011, 1:20pm » | |
Even if the hearing in terms of taking evidence has been completed and even if the panel know in their minds what the verdicts are on each count, writing up the judgement will take time as it will be the detail of the judgement upon which any challenge would be mounted.
I suspect this is where the legal people will have to really work carefully to set out why they consider a particular charge is proven or not proven, what evidence they accepted, what they rejected and the weight of the evidence. whatever the outcome, be it in favour of the club or not on each allegation they will want to make sure that the written judgement is as carefully crafted as it can be. Whether or not this is something that can be crafted in a matter of hours I have no idea but presumably will be a big factor in determining when the verdict is known.
This really is killingwhat should have been a great week and whilst on the limited information (as opposed to speculation) the process seems to have been cumbersome and poorly managed, the club has clearly acted in a way that provoked suspicion in the minds of the FA regulators.
Whatever the outcome, I would hope that there is at least transparency as to what this suspicion was, what was found and why we ended up in this terrible situation. I think every supporter has a right to a full and detailed explanation when this affair is concluded.
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« Reply #444 on May 6, 2011, 1:20pm » | |
You have to say that whatever happens, this is a truly amazing denouement to the Paladini years, almost Shakespearean in a way.
And to think that there were QPR "fans" that defended him to the absolute hilt "mistake" after "mistake" after "mistake" after "mistake"
Unbelievable is the only word that I can think of that comes close.
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« Reply #445 on May 6, 2011, 1:21pm » | |
May 6, 2011, 12:57pm, eusebio13 wrote:Just back from stadium and had a chat with Bryan Swanson who is the sky reporter who's been outside all week.
I asked why he was still there if the hearing was over and he confirmed that they had stopped hearing evidence but the deliberations were ongoing and he had a hunch that they might sneak out a statement tonight. He said that the whole thing was so cloak and dagger that they don't really know who is on the panel and anyone who says they do is speculating (he's seen no sign of Dein or Shearer)
He thought that there were huge implications for the panel not deciding before the final games and that it was likely that any decision would be challenged by someone. He also said that the Premiership would be furious if the FA tried to apply a point deduction that applied to next season.
I spent a lot of time telling him how upsetting it was to fans that we seem to have had our celebration stolen from us and how many of us had put up with 15 years of crap to have this moment stolen was criminal.
I also said that if they got rid of Paladini that would be great (that one was for you Mike). |
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« Reply #446 on May 6, 2011, 1:22pm » | |
Jesus dies for your sins.
If you don't sin, he died for nothing.
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« Reply #447 on May 6, 2011, 1:26pm » | |
I can think of at least of at least one example for whom supporting and defending Gianni had its advantages!
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« Reply #448 on May 6, 2011, 1:29pm » | |
Anyone else seen this? They are setting up loftus road for tomorrow
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« Reply #449 on May 6, 2011, 1:30pm » | |
Someone said something on one of the other QPR messageboards that I thought was very clever & apt, something along the lines of..............
"He may cost us Promotion, but he's great at getting you a signed QPR shirt" lol
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