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Post by Jon Doeman on Mar 9, 2011 17:41:30 GMT
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Post by cpr on Mar 9, 2011 17:42:38 GMT
www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2011/QPR-Paladini-chargedQPR and Paladini chargedWednesday, 09 March, 2011 Charges issued for breaches of Third Party and Agents Regulations. The FA has charged Queens Park Rangers FC with seven breaches of FA regulations. The Club charges relate to the player Alejandro Faurlin and concern the alleged existence of an agreement between the Club and a third party in respect of the player’s economic rights, and the alleged failure by the Club to notify The FA of that agreement before the player was registered to play in England in July 2009. These charges are brought under FA Rules C1(b)(iii) and E3, and the Third Party Investment in Players Regulations, A1 and A2. The Club is also charged with allegedly using or seeking to pay an Unauthorised Agent in relation to the player’s registration in July 2009. This charge is brought under the Players Agents Regulations, A1. The Club and Club Official Gianni Paladini are also charged in respect of allegedly false information contained in documents submitted to The FA in relation to the same player signing an extension to his playing contract with the Club in October 2010. These charges are brought under the Players Agents Regulations, C2, and FA Rule E3. The FA will make no further comment at this time. FFS!!!
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Post by toboboly on Mar 9, 2011 17:43:28 GMT
Paladini, corrupt? Whatever next?
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 9, 2011 17:43:38 GMT
Not sure what to say
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Post by toboboly on Mar 9, 2011 17:43:51 GMT
Will the club just be fined over this?
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Post by blockhead on Mar 9, 2011 17:43:56 GMT
oohhh, hope we dont get deducted points.
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Post by blockhead on Mar 9, 2011 17:45:12 GMT
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Post by londonranger on Mar 9, 2011 17:45:27 GMT
Good lord cp, shouldve kept it to yourself. Think Lakshmi will let him grab his lapel next time??
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Post by londonranger on Mar 9, 2011 17:46:47 GMT
Not points deducted. anyone have a gun.
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Post by cpr on Mar 9, 2011 17:48:11 GMT
Done me by a minute Jon
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Post by blockhead on Mar 9, 2011 17:48:57 GMT
have merged with cpr- who posted at the same time.
any advance on 5 pages?
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Post by londonranger on Mar 9, 2011 17:49:05 GMT
Why did they wait til now!! Smell of some other influence here.
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Post by blockhead on Mar 9, 2011 17:50:02 GMT
maybe tony knows!
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Post by cpr on Mar 9, 2011 17:50:40 GMT
West Ham didn't lose points and look how that turned out. I wonder what Colin makes of this
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Post by isleworthranger on Mar 9, 2011 17:51:56 GMT
Only at QPR Club have now issued a statement CLUB STATEMENT Posted on: Wed 09 Mar 2011 In response to a statement from the FA (click here) earlier today, Queens Park Rangers Football Club have issued the following response. Club Statement Queens Park Rangers and Gianni Paladini can confirm that they have received charges from the Football Association. Having co-operated fully with the FA's investigation, QPR and Mr Paladini shall be denying all of the charges and requesting a formal FA hearing to determine them. QPR and Mr Paladini are confident that there has been no deliberate wrongdoing involved. Given this matter will now be dealt with by an FA hearing, neither the Club nor Mr Paladini are able to make any further comment. www.qpr.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10373~2311830,00.html
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Post by cpr on Mar 9, 2011 17:55:28 GMT
Lets hope the hearing takes as long to organise as west ham's did !!!!! You couldn't make it up could you!!!!
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Post by londonranger on Mar 9, 2011 17:57:50 GMT
I remember that deal for Faurlein. It all looked square and perfectly above board to me. Clean as a whistle no ambiguities.
That silly talk about an Italian team was just his mother talking,My Lud.,
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 9, 2011 17:57:59 GMT
There always were questions about the Faurlin deal and the 3 million Pound deal as it was phrased on Official Site.
And a certain irony, Paladini only got "Credit" for the deal half way through last season by his "Friends." Before that it was always thought to be a Magilton-Gorman find.
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 9, 2011 18:01:05 GMT
July 2009 - Flashback: Faurlin SignsQPR Official Site - EXCLUSIVE: R'S AGREE FAURLIN DEAL- Jim Magilton's first signing as QPR Manager has arrived in the shape of Argentinean midfielder Alejandro Faurlin. - he 22 year-old has penned a three year deal at Loftus Road, with Rangers agreeing a deal worth £3.5million for the left-sided player. - The deal, however, is subject to Faurlin receiving international clearance. - Speaking exclusively to www.qpr.co.uk, Magilton expressed his delight at the signing of the left footed midfielder, commenting: "He's a good signing for the Football Club. - "We've had a good look at him and I believe he'll be a valuable addition to the squad. - "He's a likeable young lad who plays with a smile on his face, so we'll have no problems." - Faurlin, who made 34 appearances last year for the Argentine Club Instituto, said: "I am really pleased to be here in England, playing for a Club like Queens Park Rangers. - "I know a lot about the English game and I really admire the ability of the teams at this level. - "I am really looking forward to playing for the Club and showing the Manager, my fellow players and the QPR supporters what I can do." - Faurlin added: "I had opportunities to play in Spain, Italy and Greece, but QPR was my choice and I'm delighted to be here. - "I was really impressed with the set-up and the ambition of the Club and can't wait to make my QPR debut." - More reaction to followQPR QPR Official Site - JIM'S JOY AT FIRST SIGNING - Jim Magilton wore a broad smile this evening (Tuesday) after clinching the signing of Argentinean ace Alejandro Faurlin. - The 22 year-old midfielder has penned a three year deal - subject to international clearance - and becomes Magilton's first signing at Loftus Road. - "We've been watching the lad for some time. John (Gorman) recognised him a long time ago," Magilton revealed to www.qpr.co.uk. - "We've seen him in action and on DVD's and assessed what he's about, but having him here for the last few days has given us a chance to see what he's really like and we've been impressed. - "He plays central midfield. He's got a lovely left foot, a great work ethic and in a 46 game season, he'll be a valuable player for us." - Magilton added: "We knew about his quality and ability, but his attitude over the last few days has been great too. - "I've signed an Argentinean before and the attitude and the hunger is apparent with Alejandro, as it was with (Luciano) Civelli. - "It's all happened pretty quickly, but we're delighted to have him here. He'll bring extra quality to the squad, there's no doubt about that." QPR qprreport.blogspot.com/2009/07/faurlin-signs-for-qpr-subject-to.htmlAUGUST 2009 - Official Site QPR Official Site - GAFFER: FAURLIN WILL NEED TIME - Jim Magilton insists it will take time for summer signing Alejandro Faurlin to find his feet in the English game, but can't wait to see the Argentine show his true class. - After being plagued with a thigh injury during pre-season, the 23 year-old was made to wait for his full QPR debut. - But having come through an 85 minute appearance at Bristol City on Tuesday night unscathed, Magilton is relishing the opportunity to see him adapt to the rigours of the Championship. - "It was a baptism of fire for Alejandro at Bristol on Tuesday night," Magilton told www.qpr.co.uk. - "It was a very hard learning curve for him in the first 45 minutes, but he coped well. - "And credit to the lad, he got on the ball regularly in the second half and showed glimpses of what a fine player he is. - "He passed the ball well and in the manner we want him to." - Magilton added: "He's been out for a long time and missed a lot of pre-season, so it's a matter of waiting for him to catch up on his match fitness. - "He lasted longer than we thought we would, but he needs game time in his legs. - "I think he's a very, very good player and will prove to be a decent acquisition for the Football Club" QPR
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Post by toboboly on Mar 9, 2011 18:02:00 GMT
Magilton find, Paladini 'negotiations' perhaps?
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Post by blockhead on Mar 9, 2011 18:02:50 GMT
Only at QPR Club have now issued a statement CLUB STATEMENT Posted on: Wed 09 Mar 2011 In response to a statement from the FA (click here) earlier today, Queens Park Rangers Football Club have issued the following response. Club Statement Queens Park Rangers and Gianni Paladini can confirm that they have received charges from the Football Association. Having co-operated fully with the FA's investigation, QPR and Mr Paladini shall be denying all of the charges and requesting a formal FA hearing to determine them. QPR and Mr Paladini are confident that there has been no deliberate wrongdoing involved. Given this matter will now be dealt with by an FA hearing, neither the Club nor Mr Paladini are able to make any further comment. www.qpr.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10373~2311830,00.html quick to issue for a change, that sums it up for me I'm afraid.
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Post by blockhead on Mar 9, 2011 18:03:48 GMT
maybe there was more to Jims dismissal than first thought?
threatened to lift the lid!
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Post by londonranger on Mar 9, 2011 18:05:06 GMT
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Post by cpr on Mar 9, 2011 18:05:34 GMT
So the stories regarding the FA's visit a couple of weeks ago being about the suitability of the ground was another bloody smokescreen then!!!!!
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 9, 2011 18:09:45 GMT
But there was published stuff about QPR paying some other club 500,000 or something like that. So that wasnt hidden
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Post by blockhead on Mar 9, 2011 18:10:12 GMT
so what sanction can they place on the club [if] they find it and him guilty of the charges?
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 9, 2011 18:13:05 GMT
TELEGRAPH/Paul Kelso
Points Deduction
Queens Park Rangers face points deduction after fielding ineligible playerChampionship leaders Queens Park Rangers face a possible points deduction after they were charged with a breach of rule banning third-party ownership in relation to Alejandro Faurlin. Costly mistake: Alejandro Faurlin (left) in action for Queens Park Rangers in their recent defeat of Ipswich Town Photo: The Argentine midfielder joined QPR in July 2009 from Institute FC for £3.5 million but it is now alleged that when he did so an un-named third-party retained a stake in his economic rights. The FA on Wednesday charged the club and chairman Gianni Paladini with breaching seven regulations, including providing false information when the player was registered. It is also charged with making payments to an unauthorised agent when Faurlin was signed. If found guilty the club could face a range of penalties from a fine to a points deduction that might place their promotion chase in jeopardy. They are currently seven points clear at the top of the Championship and strong favourites to return to the Premier League. The closest parallel to the case is that of Carlos Tévez who played for West Ham United in breach of the Premier League's third-party rules. West Ham were eventually punished with a £5m fine rather than a points deduction and Tévez was permitted to continue playing, scoring the goals that kept the club in the league. Sheffield United were the biggest losers from the Tévez case, being relegated under the management of Neil Warnock, who is now in charge at Loftus Road. The FA consider that Faurlin, who is a QPR regular played 31 games and has scored twice this season, has been eligible to play because his registration was lodged with the FA. The club will be charged with concealing the true nature of his contract from the FA when making that registration. The Football League discovered the alleged breach of rules in September last year but as it did not have rules banning third –party ownership at the time he signed the case was passed to the FA. The FA allowed QPR to buy out the third-party rights in October 2010 so that the player could continue to play without breaching any rules. At the time QPR announced he had signed a four-year contract extension but did not mention the change in his contractual arrangements. In a statement the FA said: "The FA has charged Queens Park Rangers FC with seven breaches of FA regulations. "The Club charges relate to the player Alejandro Faurlin and concern the alleged existence of an agreement between the Club and a third party in respect of the player's economic rights, and the alleged failure by the Club to notify The FA of that agreement before the player was registered to play in England in July 2009. "These charges are brought under FA Rules C1(b)(iii) and E3, and the Third Party Investment in Players Regulations, A1 and A2. "The Club is also charged with allegedly using or seeking to pay an Unauthorised Agent in relation to the player's registration in July 2009. This charge is brought under the Players Agents Regulations, A1. "The Club and Club Official Gianni Paladini are also charged in respect of allegedly false information contained in documents submitted to The FA in relation to the same player signing an extension to his playing contract with the Club in October 2010. These charges are brought under the Players Agents Regulations, C2, and FA Rule E3." www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/8371690/Queens-Park-Rangers-face-points-deduction-after-fielding-ineligible-player.html
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Post by cpr on Mar 9, 2011 18:14:16 GMT
Precedent set by west ham so a fine. Knowing the FA and their whims, it'll be points deducted.
Colin loses out twice on illegal ownership.
The more I consider this, the more angry I become.
If the charges are proven I don't want to hear anybody defending Paladini. Innocent until proven guilty must be the mantra for now!
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 9, 2011 18:18:57 GMT
And other Press
PA Sport QPR charged by FA Published on Wednesday 9 March 2011 13:10
The Football Association have charged npower Championship leaders QPR with seven breaches of regulations relating to third-party ownership and agents.
The charges relate to Argentinian midfielder Alejandro Faurlin, who signed for Rangers for a club-record fee believed to be in the region of £3.5million in 2009.
The club have been charged with agreeing a deal with a third party for the player's economic rights and allegedly failing to notify the FA of the arrangement before registering Faurlin. Rangers are also alleged to have used or sought to pay an unauthorised agent in relation to Faurlin's registration in July 2009.
Furthermore, club official Gianni Paladini has been charged, along with Rangers, over documents alleged to be false which were sent to the FA when the 24-year-old extended his contract at Loftus Road in October last year.
In a statement on their official website, the club acknowledged the charges received by themselves and Paladini but denied any wrongdoing.
"Having co-operated fully with the FA's investigation, QPR and Mr Paladini shall be denying all of the charges and requesting a formal FA hearing to determine them," the statement read.
"QPR and Mr Paladini are confident that there has been no deliberate wrongdoing involved."
Copyright PA Sport 2011, All Rights Reserved
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Post by cpr on Mar 9, 2011 18:19:25 GMT
TELEGRAPH/Paul Kelso
Points Deduction
Queens Park Rangers face points deduction after fielding ineligible playerChampionship leaders Queens Park Rangers face a possible points deduction after they were charged with a breach of rule banning third-party ownership in relation to Alejandro Faurlin. Costly mistake: Alejandro Faurlin (left) in action for Queens Park Rangers in their recent defeat of Ipswich Town Photo: The Argentine midfielder joined QPR in July 2009 from Institute FC for £3.5 million but it is now alleged that when he did so an un-named third-party retained a stake in his economic rights. The FA on Wednesday charged the club and chairman Gianni Paladini with breaching seven regulations, including providing false information when the player was registered. It is also charged with making payments to an unauthorised agent when Faurlin was signed. If found guilty the club could face a range of penalties from a fine to a points deduction that might place their promotion chase in jeopardy. They are currently seven points clear at the top of the Championship and strong favourites to return to the Premier League. The closest parallel to the case is that of Carlos Tévez who played for West Ham United in breach of the Premier League's third-party rules. West Ham were eventually punished with a £5m fine rather than a points deduction and Tévez was permitted to continue playing, scoring the goals that kept the club in the league. Sheffield United were the biggest losers from the Tévez case, being relegated under the management of Neil Warnock, who is now in charge at Loftus Road. The FA consider that Faurlin, who is a QPR regular played 31 games and has scored twice this season, has been eligible to play because his registration was lodged with the FA. The club will be charged with concealing the true nature of his contract from the FA when making that registration. The Football League discovered the alleged breach of rules in September last year but as it did not have rules banning third –party ownership at the time he signed the case was passed to the FA. The FA allowed QPR to buy out the third-party rights in October 2010 so that the player could continue to play without breaching any rules. At the time QPR announced he had signed a four-year contract extension but did not mention the change in his contractual arrangements. In a statement the FA said: "The FA has charged Queens Park Rangers FC with seven breaches of FA regulations. "The Club charges relate to the player Alejandro Faurlin and concern the alleged existence of an agreement between the Club and a third party in respect of the player's economic rights, and the alleged failure by the Club to notify The FA of that agreement before the player was registered to play in England in July 2009. "These charges are brought under FA Rules C1(b)(iii) and E3, and the Third Party Investment in Players Regulations, A1 and A2. "The Club is also charged with allegedly using or seeking to pay an Unauthorised Agent in relation to the player's registration in July 2009. This charge is brought under the Players Agents Regulations, A1. "The Club and Club Official Gianni Paladini are also charged in respect of allegedly false information contained in documents submitted to The FA in relation to the same player signing an extension to his playing contract with the Club in October 2010. These charges are brought under the Players Agents Regulations, C2, and FA Rule E3." www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/8371690/Queens-Park-Rangers-face-points-deduction-after-fielding-ineligible-player.html If all of the above is true then how can we be charged? Football League rules were not broken and we complied with FA rules when required. This makes no sense!!!!! Other than the FA hate Warock obviously! ;D
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