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Post by harlowranger on Jan 8, 2011 11:23:43 GMT
Woy just gone , heard it on Sky!
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 8, 2011 11:24:44 GMT
Wow for Woy and not surprising.
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 8, 2011 11:26:29 GMT
Roy Hodgson has left Liverpool with Kenny Dalglish put in charge until the end of the season.
More to follow...
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Post by Jon Doeman on Jan 8, 2011 11:33:12 GMT
Hero to Zero. Feel sorry for him, left with Rafas dross signings.
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Post by klr on Jan 8, 2011 11:36:28 GMT
A thoroughly decent & good man, but he looked old & I'm glad he has got out of there with his health still seemingly intact.
Fulham is a nice little club, Liverpool is a lot more tribal & spiteful & they didnt accept him.
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 8, 2011 11:41:01 GMT
Liverpool sack Hodgson, Dalglish takes charge Published 11:20 08/01/11 By MirrorFootball
Liverpool today confirmed that manager Roy Hodgson has left the club by mutual consent. Hodgson had been under huge pressure following poor results this season and the decision came as no surprise with the club 12th in the Barclays Premier League, just four points above the relegation zone.
Kenny Dalglish will take control of team matters for tomorrow's third round FA Cup tie with Manchester United at Old Trafford.
In a statement on the club's website, principal owner John Henry said: "We are grateful for Roy's efforts over the past six months, but both parties thought it in the best interests of the club that he stand down from his position as team manager.
"We wish him all the best for the future."
Hodgson added: "Being asked to manage Liverpool football club was a great privilege.
"Any manager would be honoured to manage a club with such an incredible history, such embedded tradition and such an amazing set of fans.
"Liverpool is one of the great clubs in world football. I have, however, found the last few months some of the most challenging of my career.
"I am very sad not to have been able to put my stamp on the squad, to be given the time to bring new players into the club in this transfer window and to have been able to be part of the rebuilding process at Liverpool.
"The club has some great, world-class players, with whom it has been a pleasure to work and I wish the entire squad well for the rest of the season.
"I thank those with whom I have built up a close working relationship at the club for their loyalty and support during very testing times, and finally of course to the Liverpool fans, your passion and dedication to the club will see Liverpool at the top of the game once more."
Speaking about the decision to put Dalglish in charge of the team for the rest of the season, Henry added: "We are delighted that Kenny Dalglish has agreed to step in and manage the team for Sunday's FA Cup tie at Old Trafford and for the remainder of the season.
"Kenny was not just a legendary footballer, he was the third of our three most successful managers - three giants. We are extraordinarily fortunate and grateful that he has decided to step in during the middle of this season."
Chairman Tom Werner said: "No one who cares for this great club has been happy with the way this season has unfolded and we have examined options and considered at length what is best for us going forward.
"Kenny will bring considerable experience to the position and provide management and leadership for the rest of the season."
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 8, 2011 11:46:36 GMT
Predict where Roy Hodgson will go to next...
Burnley might be too early/and too late
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 8, 2011 11:47:21 GMT
Hodgson leaves Liverpool
Roy Hodgson has left Liverpool with Reds legend Kenny Dalglish put in charge until the end of the season at Anfield.
Hodgson found himself under intense pressure at Liverpool following the disappointing 3-1 defeat to Blackburn in midweek.
Liverpool are languishing in 12th spot in the Premier League and are sitting just four points above the drop zone.
The 63-year-old refused to answer questions on his future following the defeat at Ewood Park and speculation over his future intensified after his pre-match media briefing on Friday was cancelled.
Liverpool's owners Fenway Sports Group (FSG) have reportedly been looking at their possible options for a managerial change for over a week and they have now decided to act.
They had intended to see out the season with Hodgson before reassessing the situation but recent results - defeats to Blackburn and Wolves - and the deteriorating relationship with fans and associated falling attendances have prompted a rethink.
The club have turned to former player and manager Dalglish to take up the reins for the rest of the campaign and try and rescue a wretched campaign for the Merseyside titans.
Dalglish, who wanted to return as manager before the appointment of Hodgson in the summer, will now take charge of the side for this weekend's FA Cup showdown with arch-rivals Manchester United at Old Trafford.
In a statement on the club's website, the club's principal owner John Henry said: "We are grateful for Roy's efforts over the past six months, but both parties thought it in the best interests of the club that he stand down from his position as team manager.
"We wish him all the best for the future."
Sad Hodgson admitted he was sad and disappointed to have left Liverpool after conceding the last few months had been some of the most challenging of his career.
"Being asked to manage Liverpool football club was a great privilege," he said.
"Any manager would be honoured to manage a club with such an incredible history, such embedded tradition and such an amazing set of fans.
"Liverpool is one of the great clubs in world football. I have, however, found the last few months some of the most challenging of my career.
"I am very sad not to have been able to put my stamp on the squad, to be given the time to bring new players into the club in this transfer window and to have been able to be part of the rebuilding process at Liverpool.
"The club has some great, world-class players, with whom it has been a pleasure to work and I wish the entire squad well for the rest of the season.
"I thank those with whom I have built up a close working relationship at the club for their loyalty and support during very testing times, and finally of course to the Liverpool fans, your passion and dedication to the club will see Liverpool at the top of the game once more."
Delighted Henry believes Dalglish is the right man to take charge of the club at such a difficult time.
"We are delighted that Kenny Dalglish has agreed to step in and manage the team for Sunday's FA Cup tie at Old Trafford and for the remainder of the season," added Henry.
"Kenny was not just a legendary footballer, he was the third of our three most successful managers - three giants. We are extraordinarily fortunate and grateful that he has decided to step in during the middle of this season."
Chairman Tom Werner said: "No one who cares for this great club has been happy with the way this season has unfolded and we have examined options and considered at length what is best for us going forward.
"Kenny will bring considerable experience to the position and provide management and leadership for the rest of the season."
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 8, 2011 11:52:41 GMT
Predict where Roy Hodgson will go to next... Burnley might be too early/and too late West Ham , Aston Villa , Palace or might just take a rest away from football. Shame he didnt just stay at Fulham where he could have become a legend ! Liverpool Manager is a poisonous chalice , the fans expect top 5 but the squad is poor if you take away 4-5 players like Cole ,Gerrard,Torres,Carragher. They need to rebuild and be a top 10 team for a couple of years and just accept it!
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Post by toboboly on Jan 8, 2011 12:14:36 GMT
Dalglish was poor the last time he managed them and has had no experience for a while. Will/can he cope? What happens when he fails? Will the fans turn on him? Will they go down?
Liverpool fans always at least had patience, now they are no better than Arse or scum fans.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 8, 2011 12:17:08 GMT
At Foolham he was already a legend after their european glory. He was in his element there and took on a poison chalice which lived up to expectancy. still he probably will get a few bob out of it.
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Post by blueeyedcptcook on Jan 8, 2011 14:33:49 GMT
That was quick,!! Wikipedia already has Dalglish, as caretaker manager. The last time they were relegated was 53/54, so I suppose it's about time they came down a peg. ;D ;D
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Post by obk on Jan 8, 2011 16:38:01 GMT
My old childhood hero from Örebro! Hodgson is the first one I remember coaching my swedish hometown club, back in 1984. He almost took us back to the swedish premier, only failing in the play offs...oh well, he will always be a hero to me.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 8, 2011 16:38:47 GMT
Warnock to West Ham...Hodgson to QPR!
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 8, 2011 17:04:20 GMT
That is about as funny as our balless F***en cup performances!
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Post by blueeyedcptcook on Jan 8, 2011 17:17:25 GMT
Hodgson sacked, I predict sacking for Tony Mowbray. When season started Middlesbourgh, were favoured for promotion, near bottom of table and now knocked out of FA Cup by BURTON ALBION.
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Post by obk on Jan 8, 2011 17:46:17 GMT
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Post by manta on Jan 8, 2011 21:48:40 GMT
A thoroughly decent & good man, but he looked old & I'm glad he has got out of there with his health still seemingly intact. Fulham is a nice little club, Liverpool is a lot more tribal & spiteful & they didnt accept him. Succinctly put. That is the problem with managing Liverpool, if their fans don't like the manager they've had it. I don't blame Roy for taking the job but I knew from the start it was never going to work out.
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Post by saphilip on Jan 9, 2011 7:23:55 GMT
During the week I was looking at various postings form Liverpool fans and was amazed by the venom and ignorance displayed by them. many of them thought that RH was out of his depth and was the one to balme for their current problems.
Probably the most ignorant comments centred on his so called lack of expereince at big clubs. Here is a man who won titles in places like Switzerland & Sweden, took Inter Milan to a UEFA cup final - and possibty an Italian Cup - when Inter were very much the poor relations of their city rivals and Juve. And let's not forget what he did at Fulham.
Nevermind that he had to pick up the pieces from a Raf Benetiz era which left him with a host of mediocre players - not to mention dealing with the aftermath of a boardroom that would have killed the club if they had not been displaced. Oh no it was because "Woy" was clueless and had no experience.
No Liverpool fans it wasn't his so called lack of exprience that counted but rather it proved that he could not work with a team of mediocre players with high opinions of themselves and a fan base with totally unreliastic expectations.
He is better of without them in my opinion as it was the club that failed him - rather than the other way round.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 9, 2011 8:00:13 GMT
Probably bs, but NOTW says getting 7.5 million payoff. Of course on occasion, even very good managers sometimes don't fit at certain clubs. Think Brian Clough at Leeds. But usually just lack of patience to give the manager a chance Meanwhile this piece in the Independent on League Managers Association The Last Word: Sorry, Hodgson may have talent but the Axe Factor is compulsive viewing By James Corrigan Sunday, 9 January 2011 It's that time of the season again when the League Managers Association come over all Bob Crow and lambast those damn overlords for persecuting their already put-upon members. Respect to Richard Bevan, because his latest missive would have had Karl Marx crying into his season ticket. Yet, isn't it funny that while Crow, the transport union chief, is roundly criticised as being a trouble-maker, Bevan is depicted as the conscience of English football? One is sticking up for Tube drivers, the other is sticking up for Jaguar drivers. "There is an incomprehensible belief that the continued sacrificing of the manager, the 'scapegoat', will turn around a club's performance," said the LMA chief executive. "Here, here," screamed the disbelieving audience. Before rushing down the bookies to put a tenner on Roy Hodgson becoming the next evictee on The Axe Factor. Of course, Bevan is not stupid and knows the blame game won't be ending, or even being curtailed, any time soon as fan power grasps its ever firmer hold. The reaction to the midweek mayhem – not to mention the fall-out that brought its first victim in Hodgson yesterday – has proved as much. How many neutrals found it compelling to sit there and sign off the P45s as the results came in of Chelsea, Liverpool, Aston Villa and West Ham? The answer is many more than a sick minority. Sorry, but it's part of the entertainment. The Drab Four rocked us that night and their plight will continue to do so. Claim what you will about the merits of Carlo Ancelotti (numerous), Hodgson (several), Gérard Houllier (lapsed) and Avram Grant (unspecified), but none of that quaking quartet has ever inspired too much sympathy in this quarter. Perhaps that has something to do with their dour characters; or perhaps it's because they would leave full of pocket; or because in football management disloyalty is hardly a one-way street. Didn't Hodgson turn his back on Fulham not so very long ago? A good football man left a good football club, but, apart from the faithful down by the Thames, few managed so much as a shrug. It's ever been thus in the have-your-cake-and-eat-it hotseat. Yet why is it? Why is it any less destructive for, say, Owen Coyle to leave Burnley in mid-season, and thus condemn them to relegation, than it is for Newcastle to sack Chris Hughton when they are nowhere near relegation? Burnley hadn't let down Coyle, just as Hughton hadn't let down Newcastle. Is a manager's ambition deemed more important than an owner's ambition, or is it merely easier to understand? Furthermore, where are the "oh, woe is the game" howls when a manager unashamedly walks into a position vacated by a fellow LMA member so reluctantly? These are not questions for Bevan to answer. The LMA must back their members when they are supposedly treated badly and proceed to uphold the illusion that all the other managers are united in their disgust of the "short-termism". Disgusted maybe, but also comforted that job opportunities will arise very shortly. Who needs the "Latest Vacancies" board at the Jobcentre when you have the "Breaking News" panel on Sky Sports News? Is there any way for the LMA to bridge this divide between the self-obsessed individual and the caring collective? It would be nice to cite the recent example ofSir Alex Ferguson calling his loan players from Preston because he didn't agree with a knee-jerk sacking as one method by which the strong could support the weak. For if sympathy lies anywhere, it isn't with Hodgson but with young managers struggling to obtain any sort of workable foothold. Alas, Darren Ferguson is Sir Alex's son. Self-interest governs the picket line yet again. However, thinking about it, this genuinely could be a process by which the supposedly powerful could register their disapproval and make the trigger-happy hesitate. Premier League loanees are becoming more influential in the Championship by the season. Adel Taarabt started out on loan at table-topping QPR and Cardiff wouldn't be second without Manchester City's Craig Bellamy. All it would take would be for the LMA to draw up a blacklist. But who would decide which clubs are boycotted, and who would obey it? One man's blatant injustice is another man's overdue replacement. Maybe it could be drawn up purely on "time granted in the position", but that would be ridiculously simplistic. But so much is in the oft-cited case for keeping faith in the manager. Here is an argument so well-worn it even has its own clichés. Hodgson's dismissal gives them yet another airing. Certainly, far too much is made of Manchester United allowing Sir Alex such a prolonged spell to turn it around and so benefiting in the long term. In his first season, he hauled United from 21st to 11th. In his second campaign they finished second. Even Manchester City circa 2010 wouldn't have sacked him in his very early days. And in the third season, which saw United challenge and then dip? Well, by then he was settled in and had outlined his vision. The Big Man can be quite persuasive, you know. Indeed, it makes just as much sense to look at an another tale of success. Juande Ramos lasted less than a year at Spurs until they replaced him with Harry Redknapp. Then Harry was considered nothing greater than a desperate stop-gap. Evidence, surely, that "short-termism" can have such a lasting future. Who is to say the same won't apply at Liverpool? Not the LMA. They can throw around statistics and try to present football management as any other profession. It isn't, never has been, never will be. It's about emotion, results, instinct; about dreamingwhat could be and updating these dreams on a weekly basis. No doubt Bevan is correct; no doubt lower League clubs can't afford to keep firing managers. But that won't stop them. Just as they won't stop paying managers wages that they cannot afford. You see, it's all jumbled together as part of English football's glorious mess. The cause, the symptoms, the cure and the bleating. Remember the LMA are only an "association". "Guilty by..." wouldn't be the most ill-fitting prefix. www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-last-word-sorry-hodgson-may-have-talent-but-the-axe-factor-is-compulsive-viewing-2179667.html
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 9, 2011 18:54:30 GMT
Paul Fletcher/BBC Blog
Sacking season in full swingPaul Fletcher | 11:05 UK time, Friday, 7 January 2011 Phil Brown walked through the doors at Preston North End on Thursday afternoon delivering the time-honoured line about the honour of taking over at a great club with a long history. We could be hearing quite a lot of that sort of talk over the next few weeks given the current number of managerial vacancies in the Football League. North End appointed Brown after dispensing with the services of Darren Ferguson on 29 December. Burnley parted company with Brian Laws on the same day. Since then Barnet have sacked Mark Stimson, Crystal Palace fired George Burley, Stockport dismissed Paul Simpson, Charlton waved goodbye to Phil Parkinson and Walsall ditched Chris Hutchings. Then on Friday morning it emerged that Roy Keane had lost his job at Ipswich. Phil Brown (left) is the new manager at Preston after the sacking of Darren Ferguson. Brown (left) is hoping to rescue PNE after succeeding Ferguson. Photo: Getty Images Preston are the first to plug the gap, with Brown's appointment coming on the same day as Port Vale named Jim Gannon as their new manager after predecessor Micky Adams left to take over at Sheffield United. Brown took Hull into the top flight for the first time in their 104-year history in 2008. He later grabbed the headlines with his half-time haranguing of his players on the pitch during a fixture at Manchester City and his full-time serenading of supporters after the Tigers avoided the drop. He might have got a little carried away at times but he was a firm success at Hull and is keen to repeat that at Preston. He has got his work cut out. North End are seven points adrift of safety, have managed to win just five of 22 league games and are desperately short of players after the spate of loan recalls that quickly followed the dismissal of Ferguson. Brown, 51, and wily assistant Brian Horton had been out of a job since they left Hull in March. Brown was heavily linked with Burnley before signing an 18-month deal at Deepdale. Several other out-of-work managers such as Paul Jewell, Paul Hart and Chris Coleman were also mentioned as prospective managers at PNE. Burnley, desperate for an instant return to the top flight, are now apparently keen on current Watford boss Malky Mackay. The season is reaching its midway point, the transfer window is open and, without doubt, the managerial merry-go-round is in full swing. There are currently seven Football League clubs looking for a manager, with Bristol Rovers still to appoint a successor to Paul Trollope, who was sacked on 15 December. It is entirely feasible - indeed likely - that a manager sacked at some point so far this season will end up at another club before the campaign finishes. It happened 12 times last season in the Football League. One strong possibility is former Portugal international Paulo Sousa, who was sacked by Leicester in October and is being tipped to take over at Palace. If Sousa was to succeed Burley then the Eagles would become the fourth Championship club he has managed in just 26 months. Arguably the unluckiest manager to lose his job in recent days is Parkinson at Charlton. OK, the Addicks have not won in League One since 20 November, but three draws from their last five fixtures since then is hardly a complete disaster. Parkinson had worked within budget restrictions but took Charlton to the play-offs last season and was sacked with the club fifth in the table. "It is extremely disappointing that Phil has become the next manager to get the sack in this new year period," said League Managers Association chief executive Richard Bevan. "It is even more remarkable given Charlton are currently only three points from the automatic promotion places." Charlton chairman Michael Slater explained that recent results had not been good enough and that it had become necessary to appoint a new manager to keep the club in the hunt for promotion. Paul Jewell (left) has been linked with Ipswich after the sacking of Roy Keane. Paul Jewell (left) has been linked with Ipswich after the sacking of Roy Keane. Photo: Getty Images But does sacking your manager at this time of year lead to an improvement in results? Over the previous five completed seasons 32 managers have been sacked by clubs in the Football League during December and January. On 15 occasions clubs have finished the season in a higher position than when they sacked the manager, while on a further 12 the club in question finished lower. Five times the club finished in exactly the same position. Of the 32 dismissals, 21 clubs finished the campaign within three places of where they stood in the table when the sacking took place. Not once did a club who sacked their manager to reinvigorate a foundering promotion campaign end the season going up. Five times clubs that sacked their manager while in the relegation zone still went down, but a further seven managed to avoid the drop. Perhaps a change of manager is worth a gamble if you are in the relegation zone when the season reaches its midway point? The recent spate of sackings - eight in the last 10 days - was the first issue discussed in an open letter sent out by the LMA on Thursday. There have now been 30 changes of manager in the Premier League and Football League this season, with 20 of them dismissals. Although this is slightly down on the 33 by the end of the first week of January last year, the LMA argued that year on year the figures "serve to highlight the continued chronic short-termism in football manager employment". It added: "Clubs in lower leagues simply cannot afford to keep sacking managers. Short-termism does not work. It is hugely destabilizing to the club and its staff and a new manager wishing to stamp his own mark on the playing squad brings with him the additional cost of the transfer budget needed to do so. "In football, there is an incomprehensible belief that the continued sacrificing of the football manager, the 'scapegoat' and installing another will turn around a football club's performance." Former Sheffield Wednesday chairman Lee Strafford sacked Brian Laws in December 2009 with the Yorkshire club 22nd in the Championship. Alan Irvine took over in January but, after a brief improvement in results, the Owls slipped back into trouble and were relegated on the final day of the season. Strafford is adamant that the timing of Laws' dismissal had nothing to do with the forthcoming transfer window, instead arguing it was a consequence of events that started in the Wednesday boardroom. Strafford, who resigned at Hillsborough last summer, agreed with the LMA that many chairmen are looking for a scapegoat when sacking their manager.
"Most of them are thinking about using manager change to deflect blame from the dis-functionality within their clubs such as boardroom problems, lack of reality in expectations associated with their club, operational/infrastructure issues with their club or financial issues," Strafford told me in an email.[/u] "The next largest group are thinking about manager change to deflect from spending money in the transfer window ('new man needed to review things and also tried to sign players but couldn't get em in'). "Only the ones with cash to burn (i.e. the overwhelming minority) are thinking about transfer windows as a driver for manager change." The LMA is keen to stress the instability of football management. The average length of time a manager keeps his job was three and a half years in 1992 but this had declined to one year and four months by last season. The most common period for a first-time manager to remain in his job is between six months and one year. Almost half of them do not get a second chance in management. Of the current managerial vacancies in the Football League, Burnley and Charlton are still hopeful of promotion, while Ipswich, Crystal Palace, Walsall, Stockport and Barnet are all after someone to steer them away from relegation. There is no shortage of potential suitors. As I write this I am being told that Jewell is taking over at Ipswich. His last game in management was Derby's final game of 2008. The Rams lost 1-0 to Ipswich and slipped to 18th in the Championship table and Jewell resigned afterwards. The LMA quite rightly argues that many first-time managers do not get a second chance but for plenty of familiar faces - such as Brown and Jewell - the merry-go-round will eventually stop at a new club. You can follow me throughout the season at twitter.com/Paul__Fletcher www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2011/01/sacking_season_in_full_swing.html#280872
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