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Post by Hogan on Oct 8, 2010 19:21:09 GMT
What a goddam awful game of football.
So negative playing a 4 - 6 formation, never seen it before and hope never do again.
Mackie or for that matter none of the attack minded players are in the game as they permanently camped inside their own half.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 8, 2010 19:22:28 GMT
No unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately)... But regardless, from now on it's "Queens Park Rangers' Scottish International Jamie Mackie..."
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Post by Hogan on Oct 8, 2010 19:25:17 GMT
Indeed.
Would love to see him put one past scum keeper Cech now that would be totally amazing.
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Post by harlowranger on Oct 8, 2010 19:27:44 GMT
Not watching , hows he looking on his debut Hogan !
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Post by Hogan on Oct 8, 2010 19:32:25 GMT
Well Scotland are very negative with their zero strikers upfront and very very poor. Mackie certainly is not the worst player out there though. He is playing wide right in a 6 man midfield.
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Post by Hogan on Oct 8, 2010 19:48:11 GMT
Mackie subbed on 75 mins.
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Post by Markqpr on Oct 8, 2010 19:48:56 GMT
They just took him off for Miller.
Not a scratch on him.
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Post by harlowranger on Oct 8, 2010 19:51:23 GMT
Glad he got a decent run out and didnt pick up a knock , we need him fully fit !
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 8, 2010 21:28:27 GMT
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Oct 8, 2010 21:29:52 GMT
Just watched the replay of his goal wrongly ruled out for offside. His confidence will still be sky high and he's still in one piece so tall good.
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Post by londonranger on Oct 8, 2010 23:15:23 GMT
Cech had one save in 90 minutes.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Oct 8, 2010 23:25:35 GMT
Czech Republic 1-0 Scotland news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9059609.stmBy Clive Lindsay Scotland suffered a narrow defeat as Craig Levein's controversial defensive formation failed to produce a result against the Czech Republic in Prague. Levein gambled on playing without a striker as he went all out not to lose the Euro 2012 Group I qualifier. Tomas Rosicky squandered the best chance for the Czechs during a first-half they totally dominated. Allan McGregor's superb save denied Jan Polak after the break, but Roman Hubnik headed the winner after 69 minutes. Spain take over from the Scots at the top of the table following their 3-1 win over Lithuania, with the Czechs now a point behind Levein's side, who have played one extra game. Mackie (yellow) earned his first cap for Scotland in Prague In-form Rangers striker Kenny Miller, who was due to earn his 50th cap, had been dropped to the bench despite having scored in Scotland's last qualifier, a 2-1 win over Liechtenstein. He made way for an unusual 4-6-0 formation adopted by Levein in the belief that he could catch the Czechs on the break. It meant a debut for Jamie Mackie, the English-born Queens Park Rangers forward being used in a wide role along with Steven Naismith. There were few chances for either of them to attack in the first half an hour as the Czechs probed against a Scotland side that were seeing little of the ball. Yet the home side were being restricted to some long-range efforts and a Tomas Necid drive from the edge of the penalty box was straight at McGregor, although the goalkeeper had to take two attempts to save. Arsenal midfielder Rosicky squandered the first clear-cut chance when he did superbly to break clear behind the Scots defence, but his attempt to curl the ball home with the outside of his boot flew wide from 12 yards. Lukas Magera beat the Scottish offside trap but failed to capitalise and the Scots started to create a couple of half chances of their own. Marek Suchy's attempt to clear a low Alan Hutton cross was only prevented from entering the Czech net by the unsuspecting face of goalkeeper Petr Cech. However, the Czechs were soon back in command and coming closer to a breakthrough, with McGregor gathering on the line after a combination of Hubnik and Gary Caldwell diverted a cross into the six-yard box towards goal. Necid had a 10-yard shot blocked by some desperate defending as Scotland ensured the first half drew to a close without the scoreboard ticking over. The pattern continued after the break and Michal Kadlec soon forced McGregor to turn his 12-yard header from a Rosicky corner over the crossbar. Dorrans half-volleyed the ball into the roof of the Czech net from 10 yards from a cushioned Naismith header, but the effort was correctly ruled out for offside. Rosicky was the man making the Czechs tick and, when his cross found the head of Polak 15 yards out, McGregor stretched himself superbly to claw the ball off the goal-line and turn it round for a corner. However, the pressure eventually told when Rosicky's header was flicked on by substitute Roman Bednar and Hubnik diverted it past McGregor from four yards. Bednar sent a low drive a foot wide from 14 yards as the Czechs looked to extend their lead. Levein brought on Miller and Chris Iwelumo for Mackie and Caldwell as the Scotland coach had to abandon his defensive formation for a more adventurous 4-4-2. The Scots had more territory in the remaining minutes but were now under threat on the break as the Czechs secured their first win of the campaign and inflicted a first defeat on the visitors. Czech Republic: Cech, Suchy, Michal Kadlec, Hubnik, Hubschman, Pospech, Plasil (Rajnoch 90), Polak, Rosicky, Magera (Bednar 59), Necid (Holek 84). Subs Not Used: Lastuvka, Pudil, Vaclav Kadlec, Stajner. Booked: Necid, Hubschman. Goals: Hubnik 69.Scotland: McGregor, Hutton, Whittaker, McManus, Weir, Caldwell (Miller 76), Darren Fletcher, Morrison (Robson 84), Dorrans, Mackie (Iwelumo 76), Naismith. Subs Not Used: Gordon, Maloney, Bardsley, Berra. Booked: Whittaker, Weir, Robson.Att: 19,000 Ref: Ivan Bebek (Croatia).
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Post by coitparkrangers on Oct 8, 2010 23:47:46 GMT
Let's hope Levein knows he didn't play him in his own position when he thinks about who plays next game. 4-6-0? I thought that was a steam locomotive's axle configuration. New sponsor for the Scottish national team = Hornby?
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Post by londonranger on Oct 9, 2010 1:38:08 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 9, 2010 6:13:17 GMT
Herald/Richard Wilson
Jamie Mackie frustrated on his Scotland debut but not for lack of effort Jamie Mackie inadvertently found himself at the centre of a small outburst of indignation. On his first call-up to the Scotland squad, he was drawn into a row about the team selection being revealed in a newspaper last Wednesday, with Craig Levein reduced to a barely suppressed fury. Mackie might have been perturbed that the decision to name him in the starting line-up ahead of Kenny Miller would be at the heart of a story that became a confrontation. Yet this has been a season when the striker has found every hindrance overcome by an irrepressibility that has arrived suddenly, like a revelation. He had scored eight goals in 11 matches before making his debut last night, but then it was not for this refinement of his finishing ability – he amassed only 19 goals in 87 games for Exeter City, and 16 in 98 for Plymouth – that Levein chose him to face the Czech Republic ahead of Miller. The Scotland manager explained it by saying that Mackie’s qualities are better suited to the role he wanted him to play. The reasoning was clear enough when the game started and the QPR forward lined up wide on the right. He has played there in the past, where his hard running and sheer heartfelt effort finds an outlet tracking up and down the wing. But then he would normally have been allowed rein to support a central attacker, rather than being required to hold his position and keep the shape of a formation that was essentially 4-6-0, something rigidly unfulfilling. It was in the ninth minute that he made his first intervention, with a foul on Michal Kadlec, the Czech left-back. The pair were to find themselves in direct competition throughout, mostly with Mackie following the Bayer Leverkusen defender deep into his own half. There is a diligence to Mackie, an earnest willingness to sacrifice some of his own ambition for the cause of his team. It is this relinquishment – of all but a sense of duty – that Levein values. He had to be stoic and trust there will be other nights when he can express himself. Richard Wilson Mackie is well-built, tireless in his industry, and committed to applying himself. Scotland were effectively playing with two inside forwards – James Morrison and Graham Dorrans – with Mackie on the right, and Steven Naismith on the left. The wide men were mostly providing support to the full-backs, and even when Scotland eventually fell a goal behind, the first response in switching to a 4-4-2 was to send Morrison and Dorrans up front. It was a night of frustrated effort for Mackie. One clearance deep into the Czech Republic half in the 21st minute almost allowed the QPR striker to run at Kadlec. But the way the ball landed allowed the defender to tidy up the potential danger. The closest that Mackie found himself to a goalscoring opportunity was the one moment of crisp counter-attacking football. Morrison broke from deep before feeding the ball out to Gary Caldwell. His cross reached Mackie in the penalty area, but with his back to the goal, he took a touch before trying to turn and the ball was cleared. Mackie is effective in the air, but was restricted to keeping his discipline and holding to a position wide on the right, at least until the ball entered the final third, which was a rare occurrence. Instead, he had to be regimented, as though operating in narrow confines. His selflessness was evident in the way that he followed Kadlec’s surge into the penalty area in the 43rd minute. When the ball broke off Allan McGregor and was spinning towards Kadlec, it was Mackie who swept out a leg to clear. There was a grim dependability to Mackie, and little opportunity to show the sharpness, of instinct and technique, that has allowed him to make such an impact this season. It would have felt like a wry observation to Mackie that the qualities he was expected to rely on were the traits that served him while he toiled away in the lower reaches of the game after leaving Wimbledon as a teenager. He had to be stoic and trust that there will be other nights when he can find a little room in which to express himself. The second half was even less ready to offer up moments of attacking purpose and Mackie fell from the game like an afterthought. There was almost a forlorn inevitability that when the Czechs scored and Levein sought to rearrange his side in the search for goals, Mackie was the first to make way. As he was replaced by Chris Iwelumo, and shook the hand of Kenny Black as he walked to the bench, he looked a little dispirited. James Mackie holds off Michal Kadlec www.heraldscotland.com/sport/more-scottish-football/jamie-mackie-frustrated-on-his-scotland-debut-but-not-for-lack-of-effort-1.1060408
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Post by bowles on Oct 9, 2010 12:12:49 GMT
I thought mackie was totally wasted! he was playing as a second fullback what was that all about??? scotland were shite and ther tactics so boring, just park the whole team behind the ball against a czech side who had won one game in there last 13!!! i would put money on that rangers would beat both these teams blind folded! i just cant understand why he took mackie off either he should have left him on so the scots had more attacking options when they went a goal down! still as has been stated he come through unscathed and he has a cap to his name!
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Post by manta on Oct 9, 2010 18:24:18 GMT
Will not watch Scotland and not interested at all. Sorry, but don't think I need to explain my reasons!
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Post by harlowranger on Oct 9, 2010 18:43:24 GMT
Mackie will play anwhere Scotland new boy has no qualms at being asked to play on the flank Last updated: 9th October 2010 ..Jamie Mackie has told Scotland boss Craig Levein that he is prepared to adapt his game to any formation. The Queens Park Rangers forward was handed his debut on Friday in a contest which saw Levein line up with an unusual 4-6-0 system. Rangers' in-form Kenny Miller was dropped to the bench to help accommodate the tactical re-think, with Mackie coming in to fill a wider role. The approach failed to produce the required result as the Czech Republic claimed a 1-0 win in Euro 2012 qualifying, but Mackie was delighted to have made his international bow. "I would have loved a result for my first cap, but it hasn't turned out that way and I'm very disappointed with the result in the end," he said. Selection "I was delighted to get my first cap and I would have played in any role for the country. The players are there to do a job. "You're playing for your country and you'll play wherever you're told to play. The manager selected a team and a formation and you've got to play to that." Mackie is hoping he will be offered another opportunity to impress on Tuesday, when Scotland face world champions Spain, and he will be more than happy to fill a role on the wing again if asked to do so. "I'd be delighted if I played on Tuesday and, if I do, I'll play wherever I'm told to play," he added Whoever I play against, I'm very confident in my own ability and I'll give anyone a game on my night. "Hopefully I get the chance to show that. And hopefully we'll get a few more chances offensively." Wide role While holding out hope that he will figure against Spain, Mackie does not buy into the belief that he has directly replaced Miller in the Scotland side. "I believe I was picked on merit and I'm not too familiar with Kenny Miller playing in a wide role like that," he said. "Kenny Miller is a great footballer and he's got a great goalscoring record. I don't feel like I'm taking anyone's place. "The manager picks the team and you get picked on merit . I didn't slot straight in up front so I don't see it like that." Sounds keen to play anywhere ! Good attitude !
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