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Post by harlowranger on Sept 19, 2010 13:46:39 GMT
The best start to a season record that we currently are getting compared against 1947-48 was some start to a season , but really havnt we bettered it already on goal difference ! First 7 games 19/21 pts (if you base as 3pts win )same as now ! The goals scored was 18 for and 3 against so realistically surely this is better than 1947 ! Season started as follows QPR 3 NORWICH 1 BRIGHTON 0 QPR 3 BRISTOL R 0 QPR 1 QPR 2 BRIGHTON 0 QPR 2 NORTHAMPTON 0 NOTTS C 1 QPR 1 ALDERSHOT 1 QPR 4 Very weird how you used to play the reverse fixtures in some cases 2 weeks apart! Continued as QPR 4 NOTTS C 1 QPR 1 CRYSTAL P 0 QPR 3 EXETER 1 TORQUAY 1 QPR 1 QPR 3 SOUTHEND 2 QPR 0 SWINDON 0 13TH GAME FIRST LOSS SWANSEA 3 QPR 1 14TH GAME SECOND LOSS So 14 games , 2 losses in our current point format equates to 32 points from 42 pts after 14 games ! Heres our Target Boys !  On a serious note going back pre 1947 was there an even better start ?anybody know? Does anybody on the board who has a relative that can still remember the 1947 season ? Who was the star players of that season , i have some old programmes passed down a generation but they only start around 1960 , im going to dig them out this afternoon and see what was the oldest one ! On a different note what is the oldest programme you currently have ? |
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Post by londonranger on Sept 19, 2010 14:56:53 GMT
Bloody Hell mate I was there. Ivor Powell Reg Allen, Johnny Hartburn Arthur Jefferson, Frank Ramscar, Fred
Durrant, Alf ridyard, George Smith, Albert Smith, Danny Boxshall, Ted Reay, Cyril Hatton. Real football,big Brown heavy ball which we used in school. No fights, positive atmos got in for A penny hapeny. Stood on the terraces or kids section. HarryBrown, Danny Mills, George Powell, Ernest Bevin, (Danny Mills the brother or cousin of Freddie Mills the great BBC Light Heavyweight boxer. Heathcote, McEwan.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 19, 2010 15:20:19 GMT
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Post by cpr on Sept 19, 2010 16:12:37 GMT
Harlow had no idea he could actually discuss that season with someone on this site. ;D Nice one London, carry on Harlow.  The depth of knowledge on this board is unsurpassed. |
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Post by londonranger on Sept 19, 2010 16:42:59 GMT
No one caught the non footballer on the list.
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Post by harlowranger on Sept 19, 2010 16:49:47 GMT
Thanks for the input London ! Find it truly amazing you were their fantastic .
You must have truly seen some tremendous players in the hoops over the years !
I struggle to remember anything earlier that the mid seventies team which has always been my favourite with PARKES, THOMAS,GILLARD,MASSON,GIVENS , BOWLES, LEACH,WEBB,McLINTOCK
BOWLES etc to me this team will always remain with me forever .
Always found it hard to find out personal memories of beyond these days as my grandad was the reason i was an R, he moved from London to Harlow but passed away before i found out all the really old stuff !
My Dad took me but was always a Wolves boy at heart so hes no real knowledge!
( only ever bleats about how good wolves used to be before my time !)
Thanks for input london what season do you think you saw your first game !
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Post by londonranger on Sept 19, 2010 18:21:50 GMT
1943. War League. We used payers on leave or werent in war and often players from other teams would be loaned out for the match. One player on our team was an ARP, Air Warden, the attendances werent that great. Once in a while someone in crowd was used to fill in. Never was there personally though for that.. My avatar is the trolleybus that went down scrubs lane to Uxbridge Rd from Harrow Rd.
(The non footballer on my post was Ernest Bevin who was the Secretey of Defence in the government).
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Post by harlowranger on Sept 19, 2010 19:14:18 GMT
Excuse my ignorance London would not have known this ! A bit crafty of you ! Sounds surreal , a totally different ball game ! Typical attendance in those days would have been ? How did the attendances vary from Pre war , during and a couple of years after ! Thanks very for the input !  |
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Post by ronski on Sept 19, 2010 19:30:47 GMT
I was there too, Average crowds in those years were in excess of 20,000
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Sept 19, 2010 19:36:08 GMT
Welcome to the board Ronski.   |
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Post by ronski on Sept 19, 2010 19:41:12 GMT
Thanks for the welcome,My first match was in the 46/47 season we lost 3.1 to Cardiff was a regular for the 47/48 season and was hooked.
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Post by cpr on Sept 19, 2010 19:48:03 GMT
Welcome Ron, are you in Poland or just like skiing?
Another great addition to the board, look forward to some of your tales from the past as well.
If you don't mind sharing, obviously.
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Post by ronski on Sept 19, 2010 19:53:36 GMT
Not in Poland just a nickname, Shepherds Bush born and bred,well Notting Hill actually. I can name the whole of the team above but I don't want to bore you. Great board.
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Post by harlowranger on Sept 19, 2010 19:54:47 GMT
Its just endless QPR history on this board ! So glad i joined up ! Good work Mac ! Welcome Ronski thanks kindly , Just post w.war 2 and crowds of 20,000 unreal ! I love this club !  |
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Sept 19, 2010 19:58:06 GMT
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Post by Bushman on Sept 19, 2010 19:58:19 GMT
I do not go back that far my first game was 1959 but I had the pleasure of knowing through my father Arthur Jefferson and Albert 'Smudger' Smith although I knew him as Bert. They were both great men and thought the world of Rangers.
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Post by londonranger on Sept 19, 2010 20:01:08 GMT
And they had a fish and chip shop.
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Post by ronski on Sept 19, 2010 20:04:01 GMT
In around 1954 Bert Smith was my coach at the Harrow Boys Club top man he was.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 19, 2010 20:06:08 GMT
Posts like these are just such great pleasure to read So indeed welcome Ronski |
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Post by londonranger on Sept 19, 2010 20:11:07 GMT
Somehow I never paid attention to attendance, It always seemed packed on Sat matches but for a kid a crowd is a crowd but a very orderly one, since I never remember feeling scared. Earlier on tho in 40s tons
of empty seats. My mum and dads family lived near Notting Hill, Oxford Gardens off ladbroke Grove. I have an aunt now that lives up Campden Hil road near that fantastic fish and chip shop.
Dave Mangnall was the manager those years but couldnt hold team together when we were promoted. Had to sell to stay in biz, Reg went to Man c for biggest fee ever, Powell, Ivor sold off and Cyril Hatton also.
We got some decent players in, but were punching above our weight in 2nd div. Awful.
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Post by ronski on Sept 19, 2010 20:16:12 GMT
I was born in Wilsham Street and lived there until the mid sixties,
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Post by londonranger on Sept 19, 2010 20:22:24 GMT
Actually not boring the right wing is Danny Boxshall but next to him I cant place, thought it was Ramscar but it aint.
During War, HARLOW THEYD have names like Sergeant Heathcote, or Cpl Swinfen, and players from other teams on leave like a WBA or Bolton player for us which I have on this piece of program somehow saved with my 1948 Olympic programs. Ronski did you get to see any of the Olympics?
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 19, 2010 20:28:10 GMT
Well in your honour: from the following season. Were either or both of you there?
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Post by ronski on Sept 19, 2010 20:28:13 GMT
London, The guy next to Danny Boxall is a guy name of Stewart I can not recall his first name but you are correct that FRED Ramscar was also the inside right we bought him from spurs. (ow my god those were the days0!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ronski on Sept 19, 2010 20:31:50 GMT
My recollections of the Derby game was that they scored a offside equaliser and gave us a good hiding in the replay although we only had ten men.
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Post by Bushman on Sept 19, 2010 20:51:02 GMT
I do not go back that far my first game was 1959 but I had the pleasure of knowing through my father Arthur Jefferson and Albert 'Smudger' Smith although I knew him as Bert. They were both great men and thought the world of Rangers. They also coached me at school in the late sixties. Also back row right hand side next to Jeffers in the suit Alec Farmer lovely man. |
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Post by londonranger on Sept 20, 2010 2:27:34 GMT
Was at Ist leg at Loftus and crowd was heavy. see it was all terraces and one stand the precursor ot ellerslie.so
ocer 24 thousand was possible. Remember Johnny Hartburn scoring our goal , he was the Taraabt of that era,
Up at Baseball ground we listened to Raymond Glendenning. We imploded. Reg got his hand broken and had to play on wing, I think George Powell went in goal but they got 5. No subs for injury those days.
Before war crowds varied but heavy compared to now. In George Goddard era we drawing high and remember that was our first Whit City tour in those years crowds could be up to 50 000. Imagine that many
supporters!. We played Cardiff in Ninian Park away and thy could get 50 000 in also.
Our second White City tour in 60s was not succesful at all. But best crowds in our history were at Park Royal before world war 1 which was a massive stadium. Park royal and white City were better known for the Dogs than football.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Sept 20, 2010 2:28:37 GMT
Thanks for the input London ! Find it truly amazing you were their fantastic . You must have truly seen some tremendous players in the hoops over the years ! I struggle to remember anything earlier that the mid seventies team which has always been my favourite with PARKES, THOMAS,GILLARD,MASSON,GIVENS , BOWLES, LEACH,WEBB,McLINTOCK BOWLES etc to me this team will always remain with me forever . Always found it hard to find out personal memories of beyond these days as my grandad was the reason i was an R, he moved from London to Harlow but passed away before i found out all the really old stuff ! My Dad took me but was always a Wolves boy at heart so hes no real knowledge! ( only ever bleats about how good wolves used to be before my time !) Thanks for input london what season do you think you saw your first game ! So what was your guys take on Reg Allen? Welcome Ronski. Do any of you know or remember Vic Gibbons? He started watching the Hoops as a nipper in 1946. |
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Post by londonranger on Sept 20, 2010 5:09:30 GMT
Allen was a force that few teams could solve. He was big agile and sure handed . Quicker than Seaman but not as rangy or as exciting as Parkes, He has to rate as one of the top goalkeepers of QPR all time. the other bloke, need more data Loneg.
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Post by blueeyedcptcook on Sept 20, 2010 6:59:11 GMT
Welcome ronski. The fellow next to Danny Boxall, was George Stewart. Due to the loss at Derby, and the number of injured players, Dave Mangall immediately signed George Stewart, a inside forward, from Brentford.
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