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Post by QPR Report on Jan 19, 2009 13:41:35 GMT
Thus far, some of the names...  From The Daily Mail: Day#1 Numbers 41-50. Will better be able to judge when we see the final 50. Dave Thomas is an absolute definite for this list. (If he's not, then ...)Daily Mail THE LIST: 50-41 of football's greatest wing wizards By Sportsmail Reporter This week, it's those who do it with a bit more style and grace - the wingers. From Sir Stanley Matthews to Chris Waddle and Ryan Giggs, these wide men are the crown jewels of football. The dancers and dazzlers who make the game so beautiful, feared by opponents for their tricks, guile and pace. 50. Terry Curran (Doncaster, Nottingham Forest, Derby, Southampton, Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United, Huddersfield, Hull, Sunderland, Grimsby, Chesterfield) 49. Alan Walsh (Middlesbrough, Darlington, Bristol City, Walsall, Huddersfield, Shrewsbury, Cardiff) 48. Stuart Ripley (Middlesbrough, Blackburn, Southampton)47. David Moss (Swindon, Luton) 46. Kevin Sheedy (Hereford, Liverpool, Everton, Newcastle, Blackburn) 45. Brian Douglas (Blackburn) 44. Terry Paine (Southampton, Hereford) 43. Alan Woodward (Sheffield United) 42. Franz Carr (Nottingham Forest, Newcastle, Sheffield United, Leicester, Aston Villa, West Brom) 41. Ian Storey-Moore (Nottingham Forest, Man United)
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 19, 2009 14:17:21 GMT
Must be space for Dave Thomas in the final list. The R's list of my generation would include Sinton, Sinclair, Fereday, the brief but marvellous Kennedy....who else?
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Post by peterg on Jan 19, 2009 17:17:52 GMT
Mark Lazarus, wont be in the list though
if stuart ripley is in the 40's then Dave Thomas has got to be right up there.
Its difficult to judge from different era's obviously matthews is going to be very near the top, there will be a few from man united, Coppel and Hill no doubt, John Robertson from Forrest.
I would imagine Tony Morley would be up there and Peter Barnes although Thomas should be above both of them
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 19, 2009 17:38:03 GMT
And add Leighton James and perhaps Roger Morgan and Clive Clark. (That's how far back I can go).
I presume Stanley Matthews and Tom Finney will be the top two. With George Best, RYann Giggs and probably a couple of otehr Man Ut players. I'd definitely include Charlie Cooke in the list.
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Post by peterg on Jan 19, 2009 19:52:33 GMT
george graham and steve highway must be in there as well, more recently pirez and limpar from arsenal and andre konchelskis from man u
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 20, 2009 7:29:14 GMT
GBest=Winger?
And CR7 should be on there and Figo or I'll sulk.....not sure if this is a UK based only
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 20, 2009 7:43:05 GMT
List II: Numbers 31-40 Greatest Wingers- And there are some class names here - and some I remember well: Armstrong - who kept out Marinello; Lorimer - with that rocket shot; Alan Hinton, used to white boots; Tommy Cunningham (RIP) - and of course the others..But still none from QPR. I can see Dave Thomas still making the list; not sure about the others from QPR 40. Trevor Steven (Burnley, Everton) 39. Antonio Valencia (Wigan) 38. George Armstrong (Arsenal, Leicester, Stockport) 37. Len Shackleton (Arsenal, Newcastle, Sunderland) 36. Peter Lorimer (Leeds, York) 35. Arjen Robben (Chelsea) 34. Laurie Cunningham (Leyton Orient, West Brom, Leicester, Wimbledon) 33. Steve McManaman (Liverpool, Man City) 32. Alan Hinton (Wolves, Nottingham Forest, Derby) 31. Jesper Olsen (Man United)
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 20, 2009 9:06:04 GMT
Coppell & Eddie Gray come to mind...in fact the 70s seem to have been blessed with wingers, these days they're as rare as rocking horse doodoo
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 20, 2009 9:53:06 GMT
But surely only one winner for best "Twin Wingers" on a team  |
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Post by royboy on Jan 20, 2009 23:21:52 GMT
Greatest ever QPR wingers ? We know them already. But who would be in our top 20?
Where would for instance Ian Stewart feature or Gary Micklewhite or more recently Ainsworth and McLeod on his day, on his rare day..how do you compare Lazarus with Cook? Will Routledge join this pantheon of entertainers. Does Dave Thomas define a whole decade? Who else ran the channels in the seventies? Anyone old enough to remember that Mike Ferguson? Ugly looking geezer in the Gerry Francis sense, bit short in the neck department - he was Seventies. What happened to him? Talking of neck deficiencies, who was the eighties winger who looked like Gladstone Small?
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 20, 2009 23:40:17 GMT
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 21, 2009 7:22:16 GMT
The latest includes Don Rogers and Gordon Hill  30. Dave Wagstaffe (Man City, Wolves, Blackburn, Blackpool) 29. Don Rogers (Swindon, Crystal Palace, QPR) 28. Faustino Asprilla (Newcastle) 27. Billy Meredith (Man City, Man United) 26. Attilio Lombardo (Crystal Palace) 25. Marc Overmars (Arsenal) 24. Cliff Bastin (Exeter, Arsenal) 23. Gordon Hill (Millwall, Man United, QPR) 22. Charlie Cooke (Chelsea, Crystal Palace) 21. Steve Heighway (Liverpool) |
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Post by weavie on Jan 21, 2009 9:29:15 GMT
1ST...........DAVE THOMAS
2ND..........ANDY SINTON
3RD..........TREVER SINCLAIR
4TH ..........MARK LAZAROUS
5TH...........CLIVE CLARK
6TH ..........ROGER MORGEN
7TH...........ANDY IMPEY
8TH...........WAYNE FARADAY
9TH...........LEE COOK
10TH.........BARRY BRIDGES
DO YOU GUYS AGREE WITH MY TOP TEN OR NOT
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 21, 2009 9:44:38 GMT
No room for Mark Kennedy?
And I never really thought of Bridges as exactly a winger
Maybe Ian Stewart?
And how about Leighton James.
(I'm not wedded to these, but possibly?)
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Post by andyg199 on Jan 21, 2009 16:32:05 GMT
1ST...........DAVE THOMAS 2ND..........ANDY SINTON 3RD..........TREVER SINCLAIR 4TH ..........MARK LAZAROUS 5TH...........CLIVE CLARK 6TH ..........ROGER MORGEN 7TH...........ANDY IMPEY 8TH...........WAYNE FARADAY 9TH...........LEE COOK 10TH.........BARRY BRIDGES DO YOU GUYS AGREE WITH MY TOP TEN OR NOT I am happy to see Impey in your list. Kennedy hardly ever played for us so despite his impact I am not concerned by his absence! |
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Post by Zamoraaaah on Jan 21, 2009 17:03:26 GMT
Agree with Andy Re Kennedy but more because he dissed us!  (Welcome Andy) Stewart's a good shout. |
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Post by andyg199 on Jan 21, 2009 17:48:48 GMT
I can only remember back to about 1989 for people I actually saw playing, and it was quite sad how few good wingers we have had since - thinking Sinton, Impey, Sinclair and then the standards lowered.
I remember seeing Meaker play really well against I think Southampton in a night game once, coming on early for Impey...
Since then I would say Cook, Ainsworth and Darlington spring to mind, but I couldn't even form a top ten based on what I've been privileged to see!
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 22, 2009 7:28:21 GMT
Can agree of disagree where Dave Thomas ranks, but he's in very good company 20. Cliff Jones (Swansea, Tottenham, Fulham) 19. Peter Barnes (Man City, West Brom, Leeds, Coventry, Man United) 18. Jimmy Johnstone (Sheffield United) 17. Eddie Gray (Leeds) 16. Peter Thompson (Preston, Liverpool) 15. Dave Thomas (Burnley, QPR, Everton, Wolves, Middlesbrough, Portsmouth) 14. Alan Devonshire (West Ham, Watford) 13. David Beckham (Man United) 12. Robert Pires (Arsenal) 11. Andrei Kanchelskis (Man United, Everton, Southampton)
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 22, 2009 7:34:56 GMT
So just to compile (thus far) the 50 greatest Wingers (without the top ten yet!)
Daily Mail
50. Terry Curran (Doncaster, Nottingham Forest, Derby, Southampton, Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United, Huddersfield, Hull, Sunderland, Grimsby, Chesterfield)
49. Alan Walsh (Middlesbrough, Darlington, Bristol City, Walsall, Huddersfield, Shrewsbury, Cardiff)
48. Stuart Ripley (Middlesbrough, Blackburn, Southampton)47. David Moss (Swindon, Luton)
46. Kevin Sheedy (Hereford, Liverpool, Everton, Newcastle, Blackburn)
45. Brian Douglas (Blackburn)
44. Terry Paine (Southampton, Hereford)
43. Alan Woodward (Sheffield United)
42. Franz Carr (Nottingham Forest, Newcastle, Sheffield United, Leicester, Aston Villa, West Brom)
41. Ian Storey-Moore (Nottingham Forest, Man United)
40. Trevor Steven (Burnley, Everton)
39. Antonio Valencia (Wigan)
38. George Armstrong (Arsenal, Leicester, Stockport)
37. Len Shackleton (Arsenal, Newcastle, Sunderland)
36. Peter Lorimer (Leeds, York)
35. Arjen Robben (Chelsea)
34. Laurie Cunningham (Leyton Orient, West Brom, Leicester, Wimbledon)
33. Steve McManaman (Liverpool, Man City)
32. Alan Hinton (Wolves, Nottingham Forest, Derby)
31. Jesper Olsen (Man United)
30. Dave Wagstaffe (Man City, Wolves, Blackburn, Blackpool)
29. Don Rogers (Swindon, Crystal Palace, QPR)
28. Faustino Asprilla (Newcastle)
27. Billy Meredith (Man City, Man United)
26. Attilio Lombardo (Crystal Palace)
25. Marc Overmars (Arsenal)
24. Cliff Bastin (Exeter, Arsenal)
23. Gordon Hill (Millwall, Man United, QPR)
22. Charlie Cooke (Chelsea, Crystal Palace)
21. Steve Heighway (Liverpool)
20. Cliff Jones (Swansea, Tottenham, Fulham)
19. Peter Barnes (Man City, West Brom, Leeds, Coventry, Man United)
18. Jimmy Johnstone (Sheffield United)
17. Eddie Gray (Leeds)
16. Peter Thompson (Preston, Liverpool)
15. Dave Thomas (Burnley, QPR, Everton, Wolves, Middlesbrough, Portsmouth)
14. Alan Devonshire (West Ham, Watford)
13. David Beckham (Man United)
12. Robert Pires (Arsenal)
11. Andrei Kanchelskis (Man United, Everton, Southampton)
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Post by QPR Report on Jan 23, 2009 6:29:57 GMT
No Leighton James in the 50 And Stanley Matthews and Tom Finney NOT #1 and #2  HAVE YOUR SAY: What do you think of Nos 10-1 and who is your greatest winger?It was tough, but have Sportsmail's team of experts got it right? Check out the final batch of 10, and be sure to have your say. 10. Steve Coppell (Tranmere, Manchester United) 9. David Ginola (Newcastle, Tottenham, Aston Villa, Everton) 8. John Barnes (Watford, Liverpool, Newcastle, Charlton) 7. Chris Waddle (Newcastle, Tottenham, Sheffield Wednesday, Bradford, Sunderland, Burnley, Torquay) 6. John Robertson (Nottingham Forest, Derby) 5. Sir Tom Finney (Preston) 4. Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United) 3. Sir Stanley Matthews (Stoke, Blackpool) 2. George Best (Manchester United, Stockport, Fulham, Bournemouth) 1. Ryan Giggs (Manchester United) |
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 23, 2009 8:08:48 GMT
In ten years Giggs won't be in the top 10 and Ginolas only in for his hair
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 23, 2009 10:53:05 GMT
Totally agree with Giggs as number one. His domestic medals haul is second to none.
Am surprised that Craig Johnson didn't get on the list and Ginola in the top ten? Have to disagree with that one.
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Post by cpr on Jan 23, 2009 19:38:35 GMT
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From The Daily Mail: Day#1 Numbers 41-50. Will better be able to judge when we see the final 50. Dave Thomas is an absolute definite for this list. (If he's not, then ...)
- And after we sold Marsh and Venables was injured, he captained QPR to almost promotion that year.
