Post by QPR Report on Jan 9, 2009 7:14:03 GMT
Bump a couple of years...
The Independent
None actually from QPR List include Ben Watson...and Eubanks Blake (who we obviously should have signed a year ago)! ..
And see below, for Top 20 Players of 2007 and 2006
Click Here:
www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-20-best-players-outside-the-premier-league-1234196.html
Independent - The 20 best players outside the Premier League
Friday, 9 January 2009
This year's top player is Michael Kightly of Wolves
THE TOP 20 PLAYERS OUTSIDE THE PREMIER LEAGUE
“There are a lot of good footballers at this level now, more so than 10 or 20 years ago. The foreigners coming into the Premier League have pushed a lot of players down, and there are also a lot of young players coming through who have been well schooled in the academies. There are even plenty of good players in non-league.” The speaker was Mark Stimson, manager of Gillingham, but the sentiments were echoed by many of the managers and other experts The Independent spoke to when canvassing opinion for this fourth survey of the best players outside the top flight.
Once again the majority hail from the British Isles, players who, a decade ago, would have been fixtures in the elite league. Many will go on to be so. Sixteen of the 20 players named in each of the first two polls, in 2006, and 2007, went on to play in the top flight. Last season there was a feeling that the talent was not there. As a consequence we widened the survey to include the SPL, then riding high on the back of Celtic and Rangers’ European campaigns and a resurgent national team. Rangers’ Alan Hutton, who moved to Spurs soon after publication for £7m, came top. He, though, has struggled at White Hart Lane, largely, but not solely, through injury.
In that he is an apt metaphor for the Tartan game whose past buoyancy now appears to be something of a blip. So, conversely, was the apparent dearth of talent in the Championship. The league now seems to be flourishing again, with good football being played even by the struggling teams. Nottingham Forest’s Lewis McGugan claims a place in our top 20 and Doncaster (Brian Stock, Richie Wellens, James Coppinger) and Southampton (Andrew Surman, Adam Lallana) were close to being represented. The success of Hull and, to an extent, Stoke and West Bromwich in the top flight seems to confirm that the division’s quality last season was greater than appreciated at the time.
Thus we have returned to selecting only the best of the Football League system. Michael Kightly, second to Hutton last year, is now top. He is one of five Wolves players selected, reflecting their impressive first half of the season. Second-placed Reading have four representatives but Birmingham, the other front-runner, just James McFadden, and he is not considered to be performing at his best.
Kightly was discovered in non-League. So was the outstanding player in League One, Peterborough’s Craig Mackail-Smith, and one of the leading trio in League Two, Simeon Jackson of Gillingham. These selections give further credence to Stimson’s suggestion that the talent pool now extends to the Conference. The greater depth of talent has also led to more teams playing purer football. Gavin Strachan, of Notts County, writes in his BBC blog this week that pitches have improved during his dozen years in the game. His reasoning is that clubs are making that investment because more managers want to play a passing game.
Oddly, there are several full-backs but an absence of centre-halves. If a best XI were selected the choice would be between Wolves’ Richard Stearman, Cardiff’s Roger Johnson and Scott Dann of Coventry. There is a surfeit of wingers, including half the top 10. It is an indication of the attacking football being played by many of the leading teams in a division which, once again, has a confidence about itself.
Who we spoke to:
Players, managers, pundits and fans with an emphasis on people involved in, or observing, the Championship. Current players and managers were guaranteed anonymity. Only players under 30 on New Year’s Day 2009 were considered. Players on loan from Premier League not included. Nearly 100 names were mentioned, but the top five stood out.
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Independent - Previous surveys of the best players outside the Premier League
By Glenn Moore
Friday, 9 January 2009
More than half the 13 Englishmen in the original 2006 survey went on to be capped, four failed to reach the Premier League. Which tips were right, and which were not?
THE CLASS OF 2006
Sixteen of the initial 20 went on to play in the Premier League of which ten remain and Kenny Miller is in the SPL. Of the exceptions - Trundle, Kennedy, Fryatt and Garvan - the latter should still do so. Seven of the 13 Englishmen have subsequently been capped.
1. Phil Jagielka (Sheffield United, now Everton) Premiership
2. Andrew Johnson (Crystal Palace, now Fulham) P
3. Steve Sidwell (Reading, now Aston Villa) P
4. Theo Walcott (Southampton, now Arsenal) P
5. Cameron Jerome (Cardiff, now Birmingham) Championship
6. Kevin Doyle (still Reading) C
7. Dean Ashton (Norwich, now West Ham) P
8. Kenny Miller (Wolves, now Rangers) SPL
9. Joleon Lescott (Wolves, now Everton) P
10. Danny Webber (still Sheffield U) C
11. Lee Trundle (Swansea, now Bristol C) C
12. Ashley Young (Watford, now Aston Villa) P
13. Bobby Convey (still Reading) C
14. Nigel Quashie (now West Ham, currently on loan at Birmingham) P
15. Mark Kennedy (Wolves, now Cardiff) C
16. Seol Ki-Hyeon (Wolves, now Fulham) P
17. Matty Fryatt (then Walsall, now Leicester) L1
18. Nicky Shorey (Reading, now Aston Villa) P
19. Boaz Myhill (still Hull City) P
20. Owen Garvan (still Ipswich) C
CLASS OF 2007
Again, 16 of the 20 subsequently played in the top flight of which a dozen remain, though two are on loan to Sheffield United. Nugent and Upson were capped by England. Murray has been injured for most of the last two seasons.
1. David Nugent (Preston, now Portsmouth) P
2. Gareth Bale (Cardiff, now Tottenham) P
3. Gary McSheffrey (still Birmingham) C
4. Freddy Eastwood (Southend, now Coventry) C
5. Curtis Davies (West Brom, now Aston Villa) P
6. Giles Barnes (still Derby) C
7. Robbie Earnshaw (Norwich, now N Forest) C
8. Jason Koumas (West Brom, now Wigan) P
9. Grzegorz Rasiak (still So'ton, loaned to Watford) C
10. Matthew Upson (Birmingham, now West Ham) P
11. Michael Chopra (Cardiff, now Sunderland) P
12. Matt Murray (still Wolves) C
13. David Dunn (Birmingham, now Blackburn) P
14. Zoltan Gera (West Brom, now Fulham) P
15. Greg Halford (Colchester, now *Sunderland) P (C)
16. Anthony Stokes (still *Sunderland) P (C)
17. Tom Soares (Crystal Palace, now Stoke) P
18. Boaz Myhill (still Hull City) P
19. Lee Cook (back at QPR) C
20. Ben Watson (still Crystal Palace) C
* On loan to Sheffield United
CLASS OF 2008
Seven of last year's top 20 now play in the Premier League, David Murphy did so last season and Scott Brown is still in the SPL, which was included last season. Four appear again in the poll this season,
Many of last season's better Championship players were on loan from the top flight (notably Ryan Shawcross, Ishmael Miller and Fraizer Campbell, all of whom are now playing in the Premier League) and the top clubs were more interested in signing promising teenagers. Among 'ten teenagers to watch' were Plymouth's Dan Gosling, now emerging at Everton, Cardiff pair Chris Gunter (Tottenham) and Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal), Crystal Palace's John Bostock (now Tottenham), Gillingham's Luke Freeman (now Arsenal).
Of the players picked out in other categories several have progressed.
1. Alan Hutton (Rangers, now Tottenham) P
2. Michael Kightly (still Wolves) C
3. Joe Ledley (still Cardiff) C
4. Jonathan Greening (still West Brom) P
5. Marlon King (Watford, now Wigan - on loan to Hull) P
6. James Beattie (still Sheffield United) C
7. Zoltan Gera (West Brom, now Fulham) P
8. Scott Brown (still Celtic) SPL
9. Jonathan Walters (still Ipswich) C
10. Ricardo Fuller (still Stoke) P
11. Brian Howard (Barnsley, now Sheffield U) C
12. Marvin Elliott (still Bristol City) C
13. Ben Watson (still Crystal Palace) C
14. David Murphy (Hibernians, now Birmingham) C
15. Wayne Hennessey (still Wolves) C
16. Andy Reid (Charlton, now Sunderland) P
17. Gary Naysmith (still Sheffield U) C
18. Heinz Muller (still Barnsley) C
19. Akos Buzsaky (still QPR) C
20. Felipe Teixiera (still West Brom) P
Loanees, best: Ryan Shawcross (Manchester U to Stoke, now Stoke) P
Veterans, best: Kevin Phillips (West Brom, now Bimingham) C
League One best: Jermaine Beckford (still Leeds) L1
League Two best: Keith Andrews (MK Dons, now Blackburn) P
Conference: Stuart Fleetwood (Forest Green now Charlton, C, on loan to Brighton) L1
www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/previous-surveys-of-the-best-players-outside-the-premier-league-1234426.html
The Independent
None actually from QPR List include Ben Watson...and Eubanks Blake (who we obviously should have signed a year ago)! ..
And see below, for Top 20 Players of 2007 and 2006
Click Here:
www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-20-best-players-outside-the-premier-league-1234196.html
Independent - The 20 best players outside the Premier League
Friday, 9 January 2009
This year's top player is Michael Kightly of Wolves
THE TOP 20 PLAYERS OUTSIDE THE PREMIER LEAGUE
“There are a lot of good footballers at this level now, more so than 10 or 20 years ago. The foreigners coming into the Premier League have pushed a lot of players down, and there are also a lot of young players coming through who have been well schooled in the academies. There are even plenty of good players in non-league.” The speaker was Mark Stimson, manager of Gillingham, but the sentiments were echoed by many of the managers and other experts The Independent spoke to when canvassing opinion for this fourth survey of the best players outside the top flight.
Once again the majority hail from the British Isles, players who, a decade ago, would have been fixtures in the elite league. Many will go on to be so. Sixteen of the 20 players named in each of the first two polls, in 2006, and 2007, went on to play in the top flight. Last season there was a feeling that the talent was not there. As a consequence we widened the survey to include the SPL, then riding high on the back of Celtic and Rangers’ European campaigns and a resurgent national team. Rangers’ Alan Hutton, who moved to Spurs soon after publication for £7m, came top. He, though, has struggled at White Hart Lane, largely, but not solely, through injury.
In that he is an apt metaphor for the Tartan game whose past buoyancy now appears to be something of a blip. So, conversely, was the apparent dearth of talent in the Championship. The league now seems to be flourishing again, with good football being played even by the struggling teams. Nottingham Forest’s Lewis McGugan claims a place in our top 20 and Doncaster (Brian Stock, Richie Wellens, James Coppinger) and Southampton (Andrew Surman, Adam Lallana) were close to being represented. The success of Hull and, to an extent, Stoke and West Bromwich in the top flight seems to confirm that the division’s quality last season was greater than appreciated at the time.
Thus we have returned to selecting only the best of the Football League system. Michael Kightly, second to Hutton last year, is now top. He is one of five Wolves players selected, reflecting their impressive first half of the season. Second-placed Reading have four representatives but Birmingham, the other front-runner, just James McFadden, and he is not considered to be performing at his best.
Kightly was discovered in non-League. So was the outstanding player in League One, Peterborough’s Craig Mackail-Smith, and one of the leading trio in League Two, Simeon Jackson of Gillingham. These selections give further credence to Stimson’s suggestion that the talent pool now extends to the Conference. The greater depth of talent has also led to more teams playing purer football. Gavin Strachan, of Notts County, writes in his BBC blog this week that pitches have improved during his dozen years in the game. His reasoning is that clubs are making that investment because more managers want to play a passing game.
Oddly, there are several full-backs but an absence of centre-halves. If a best XI were selected the choice would be between Wolves’ Richard Stearman, Cardiff’s Roger Johnson and Scott Dann of Coventry. There is a surfeit of wingers, including half the top 10. It is an indication of the attacking football being played by many of the leading teams in a division which, once again, has a confidence about itself.
Who we spoke to:
Players, managers, pundits and fans with an emphasis on people involved in, or observing, the Championship. Current players and managers were guaranteed anonymity. Only players under 30 on New Year’s Day 2009 were considered. Players on loan from Premier League not included. Nearly 100 names were mentioned, but the top five stood out.
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Independent - Previous surveys of the best players outside the Premier League
By Glenn Moore
Friday, 9 January 2009
More than half the 13 Englishmen in the original 2006 survey went on to be capped, four failed to reach the Premier League. Which tips were right, and which were not?
THE CLASS OF 2006
Sixteen of the initial 20 went on to play in the Premier League of which ten remain and Kenny Miller is in the SPL. Of the exceptions - Trundle, Kennedy, Fryatt and Garvan - the latter should still do so. Seven of the 13 Englishmen have subsequently been capped.
1. Phil Jagielka (Sheffield United, now Everton) Premiership
2. Andrew Johnson (Crystal Palace, now Fulham) P
3. Steve Sidwell (Reading, now Aston Villa) P
4. Theo Walcott (Southampton, now Arsenal) P
5. Cameron Jerome (Cardiff, now Birmingham) Championship
6. Kevin Doyle (still Reading) C
7. Dean Ashton (Norwich, now West Ham) P
8. Kenny Miller (Wolves, now Rangers) SPL
9. Joleon Lescott (Wolves, now Everton) P
10. Danny Webber (still Sheffield U) C
11. Lee Trundle (Swansea, now Bristol C) C
12. Ashley Young (Watford, now Aston Villa) P
13. Bobby Convey (still Reading) C
14. Nigel Quashie (now West Ham, currently on loan at Birmingham) P
15. Mark Kennedy (Wolves, now Cardiff) C
16. Seol Ki-Hyeon (Wolves, now Fulham) P
17. Matty Fryatt (then Walsall, now Leicester) L1
18. Nicky Shorey (Reading, now Aston Villa) P
19. Boaz Myhill (still Hull City) P
20. Owen Garvan (still Ipswich) C
CLASS OF 2007
Again, 16 of the 20 subsequently played in the top flight of which a dozen remain, though two are on loan to Sheffield United. Nugent and Upson were capped by England. Murray has been injured for most of the last two seasons.
1. David Nugent (Preston, now Portsmouth) P
2. Gareth Bale (Cardiff, now Tottenham) P
3. Gary McSheffrey (still Birmingham) C
4. Freddy Eastwood (Southend, now Coventry) C
5. Curtis Davies (West Brom, now Aston Villa) P
6. Giles Barnes (still Derby) C
7. Robbie Earnshaw (Norwich, now N Forest) C
8. Jason Koumas (West Brom, now Wigan) P
9. Grzegorz Rasiak (still So'ton, loaned to Watford) C
10. Matthew Upson (Birmingham, now West Ham) P
11. Michael Chopra (Cardiff, now Sunderland) P
12. Matt Murray (still Wolves) C
13. David Dunn (Birmingham, now Blackburn) P
14. Zoltan Gera (West Brom, now Fulham) P
15. Greg Halford (Colchester, now *Sunderland) P (C)
16. Anthony Stokes (still *Sunderland) P (C)
17. Tom Soares (Crystal Palace, now Stoke) P
18. Boaz Myhill (still Hull City) P
19. Lee Cook (back at QPR) C
20. Ben Watson (still Crystal Palace) C
* On loan to Sheffield United
CLASS OF 2008
Seven of last year's top 20 now play in the Premier League, David Murphy did so last season and Scott Brown is still in the SPL, which was included last season. Four appear again in the poll this season,
Many of last season's better Championship players were on loan from the top flight (notably Ryan Shawcross, Ishmael Miller and Fraizer Campbell, all of whom are now playing in the Premier League) and the top clubs were more interested in signing promising teenagers. Among 'ten teenagers to watch' were Plymouth's Dan Gosling, now emerging at Everton, Cardiff pair Chris Gunter (Tottenham) and Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal), Crystal Palace's John Bostock (now Tottenham), Gillingham's Luke Freeman (now Arsenal).
Of the players picked out in other categories several have progressed.
1. Alan Hutton (Rangers, now Tottenham) P
2. Michael Kightly (still Wolves) C
3. Joe Ledley (still Cardiff) C
4. Jonathan Greening (still West Brom) P
5. Marlon King (Watford, now Wigan - on loan to Hull) P
6. James Beattie (still Sheffield United) C
7. Zoltan Gera (West Brom, now Fulham) P
8. Scott Brown (still Celtic) SPL
9. Jonathan Walters (still Ipswich) C
10. Ricardo Fuller (still Stoke) P
11. Brian Howard (Barnsley, now Sheffield U) C
12. Marvin Elliott (still Bristol City) C
13. Ben Watson (still Crystal Palace) C
14. David Murphy (Hibernians, now Birmingham) C
15. Wayne Hennessey (still Wolves) C
16. Andy Reid (Charlton, now Sunderland) P
17. Gary Naysmith (still Sheffield U) C
18. Heinz Muller (still Barnsley) C
19. Akos Buzsaky (still QPR) C
20. Felipe Teixiera (still West Brom) P
Loanees, best: Ryan Shawcross (Manchester U to Stoke, now Stoke) P
Veterans, best: Kevin Phillips (West Brom, now Bimingham) C
League One best: Jermaine Beckford (still Leeds) L1
League Two best: Keith Andrews (MK Dons, now Blackburn) P
Conference: Stuart Fleetwood (Forest Green now Charlton, C, on loan to Brighton) L1
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