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Post by Macmoish on Feb 13, 2013 19:43:28 GMT
THIS story not involving QPR... Jewish Chronicle
Israeli footballer barred from training session in Dubai By Sandy Rashty, February 13, 2013 Israeli footballer Itay Schechter has missed a team visit to Dubai as a result of ongoing political tensions between Israel and the United Arab Emirates. The 25-year-old striker, who plays for Swansea City, was prevented from attending the six-day group training session. The UAE does not recognise the state of Israel and Israeli passport holders can be arrested and deported on entering the UAE without a special visa. Mr Schechter, who was once a victim of antisemitic abuse when he was given a Nazi salute during a training session, has travelled to Israel to train with his former Hapoel Tel Aviv football club ahead of a Premier League match this Sunday www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/102442/israeli-footballer-barred-training-session-dubai
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Post by mfnc on Feb 13, 2013 19:45:18 GMT
so ben haim is barred too??
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 13, 2013 19:47:16 GMT
I havent seen so. Maybe not if he's travelling with the QPR squad as a whole (if he is). Or maybe has a dual passport.
Guess we'll find out.
(If we go to Malaysia again the Summer, that too will be interesting)
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 13, 2013 19:56:49 GMT
Update...Apparently Ben Haim also has a British passport Swansea pull Israeli footballer out of Dubai training camp John McAuley/The National Feb 13, 2013 DUBAI // The English Premier League football team Swansea City considered cancelling their mid-season training camp in Dubai because their Israeli player would have been refused entry on grounds of his nationality, said Michael Laudrup, the club's manager. Instead of travelling to the UAE with the team on Monday, Itay Shechter was granted permission to train in Israel with Hapoel Tel Aviv, his former club. He will rejoin his Swansea teammates ahead of their league match with Liverpool on Sunday. Cancelling the trip "was a possibility, but I thought we'd just made the arrangements and then would have to change", Laudrup said today at Dubai Sports City where his team were training. "Itay hadn't been home for five months so I said to him to go back for these three or four days. Right now he's happy being home with his family and training." Swansea reportedly discovered at the end of last week that Shechter would be denied access to the UAE. Laudrup said that should a similar situation arise, Swansea would consider an alternative option to the Emirates. "When we have to plan it then we will look into if all our players can come," he said. "But it depends if we're going for three days or for 10 days. Pre-season would be completely different; I would never do anything like that." It is not the first time an Israeli footballer has encountered problems entering Dubai. In 2009, Tamir Cohen, then of Bolton Wanderers, said he would not have travelled to the emirate for his club's training camp, even if he had not been injured. In 2007, Tal Ben Haim, then also a Bolton player, reportedly remained in England because of visa issues. However, Ben Haim now holds a British passport and is currently training in Dubai with his new club Queens Park Rangers.www.thenational.ae/events/categories/sport/swansea-pull-israeli-footballer-out-of-dubai-training-camp#ixzz2KoKkKyPp Follow us: @thenationaluae on Twitter | thenational.ae on Facebook
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Post by mfnc on Feb 13, 2013 20:04:40 GMT
thanks.
does israel have the same policy towards arabs?
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 13, 2013 20:09:29 GMT
No. Not unless you're a security threat...
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Post by mfnc on Feb 13, 2013 20:11:23 GMT
what a silly world we live in.
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Post by Hogan on Feb 13, 2013 21:25:17 GMT
All these clubs and all individuals should boycott UAE!
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Post by sharky on Feb 13, 2013 22:01:09 GMT
What will happen at the Qatar World Cup?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 5:08:28 GMT
I would guess that quite a few other Muslim countries would have the same rules then. I am disappointed to see that Swansea have still agreed to go. As Maude says, we live in a silly world
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Post by canadaranger on Feb 14, 2013 6:05:29 GMT
All these clubs and all individuals should boycott UAE! Antisemitism is ugly, ignorant and sooo 600 A.D
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 14, 2013 8:20:38 GMT
Obviously Israel is very unlikely to qualify for the World Cup (Hasn't done since 1970) and it's in the European Qualifying Zone (because of Politics) making it harder.
But if the highly unlikely did occur, and Israel actually did qualify for 2022 (assuming no massive "Peace in the Middle East" between now and then), will pose some problems. I presume to get the World Cup, made some promises about the World Cup being open to all. What actually happens will see. Might well turn a blind eye and let Israel. If push comes to shove. I doubt that the World Football Authorities will actually jeopardize the World Cup on the matter of principle!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 8:59:52 GMT
maybe they will say Israel can play in the world cup but none of the players are allowed to hold Israeli passports
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Post by toboboly on Feb 14, 2013 9:43:28 GMT
All these clubs and all individuals should boycott UAE! 100% agree. There are other warm places to train.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Feb 14, 2013 10:52:41 GMT
Obviously Israel is very unlikely to qualify for the World Cup (Hasn't done since 1970) and it's in the European Qualifying Zone (because of Politics) making it harder. But if the highly unlikely did occur, and Israel actually did qualify for 2022 (assuming no massive "Peace in the Middle East" between now and then), will pose some problems. I presume to get the World Cup, made some promises about the World Cup being open to all. What actually happens will see. Might well turn a blind eye and let Israel. If push comes to shove. I doubt that the World Football Authorities will actually jeopardize the World Cup on the matter of principle! If Israel qualified i could imagine the Qatar representatives paying them off not to turn up. That way it's a win win for the brown envelope boys. (Insert nudge nudge, wink wink Smiley)
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Post by bowranger on Feb 14, 2013 12:47:57 GMT
Obviously Israel is very unlikely to qualify for the World Cup (Hasn't done since 1970) and it's in the European Qualifying Zone (because of Politics) making it harder. But if the highly unlikely did occur, and Israel actually did qualify for 2022 (assuming no massive "Peace in the Middle East" between now and then), will pose some problems. I presume to get the World Cup, made some promises about the World Cup being open to all. What actually happens will see. Might well turn a blind eye and let Israel. If push comes to shove. I doubt that the World Football Authorities will actually jeopardize the World Cup on the matter of principle! If Israel qualified i could imagine the Qatar representatives paying them off not to turn up. That way it's a win win for the brown envelope boys. (Insert nudge nudge, wink wink Smiley) Just because somewhere is in the Middle East does not de facto mean the Israeli national football team is going to have problems getting in. Qatar does not, and never has had, a ban on people entering with Israeli passports. They are also one of the countries in the Arab League to have diplomatic relations with the state of Israel. I know it's convenient to think "arabs" and put 2 and 2 together, but it doesn't work that way. For example, these are the countries that have an official policy of no-entry for Israeli passport holders: www.theexpeditioner.com/2012/03/14/are-you-banned-from-certain-countries-if-you-have-an-israeli-stamp-in-your-passport/So why would a country, who has no ban on Israeli citizens entering there, jeopardise the world cup which is a huge PR and economic opportunity for the rich rulers there? Makes no sense whatsoever. I think the fact that FIFA has stood by its decision to give Israel the European U21 championships, despite a lot of opposition, shows you that they aren't exactly trying to leave the Israeli football team out in the cold.
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Post by Jon Doeman on Feb 14, 2013 13:41:24 GMT
If Israel qualified i could imagine the Qatar representatives paying them off not to turn up. That way it's a win win for the brown envelope boys. (Insert nudge nudge, wink wink Smiley) Just because somewhere is in the Middle East does not de facto mean the Israeli national football team is going to have problems getting in. Qatar does not, and never has had, a ban on people entering with Israeli passports. They are also one of the countries in the Arab League to have diplomatic relations with the state of Israel. I know it's convenient to think "arabs" and put 2 and 2 together, but it doesn't work that way. For example, these are the countries that have an official policy of no-entry for Israeli passport holders: www.theexpeditioner.com/2012/03/14/are-you-banned-from-certain-countries-if-you-have-an-israeli-stamp-in-your-passport/So why would a country, who has no ban on Israeli citizens entering there, jeopardise the world cup which is a huge PR and economic opportunity for the rich rulers there? Makes no sense whatsoever. I think the fact that FIFA has stood by its decision to give Israel the European U21 championships, despite a lot of opposition, shows you that they aren't exactly trying to leave the Israeli football team out in the cold. They've got a ban on plenty else though!
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Post by bowranger on Feb 14, 2013 13:50:02 GMT
Just because somewhere is in the Middle East does not de facto mean the Israeli national football team is going to have problems getting in. Qatar does not, and never has had, a ban on people entering with Israeli passports. They are also one of the countries in the Arab League to have diplomatic relations with the state of Israel. I know it's convenient to think "arabs" and put 2 and 2 together, but it doesn't work that way. For example, these are the countries that have an official policy of no-entry for Israeli passport holders: www.theexpeditioner.com/2012/03/14/are-you-banned-from-certain-countries-if-you-have-an-israeli-stamp-in-your-passport/So why would a country, who has no ban on Israeli citizens entering there, jeopardise the world cup which is a huge PR and economic opportunity for the rich rulers there? Makes no sense whatsoever. I think the fact that FIFA has stood by its decision to give Israel the European U21 championships, despite a lot of opposition, shows you that they aren't exactly trying to leave the Israeli football team out in the cold. They've got a ban on plenty else though! Haha very true. Both Brazil and Russia are trying to get alcohol restricted from sale for their world cups to try and curb crowd trouble and if FIFA let them then Qatar may actually get away with upholding that ban. Gutted, you'd be gasping for a beer in that heat!
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 19, 2013 8:03:29 GMT
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Post by toboboly on Feb 19, 2013 10:59:16 GMT
Why don't clubs just go to southern Spain? Closer, cheaper, not quite as warm but this week Seville is 16 degrees (dubai 24). Greece and Turkey are similar. How about Bermuda? Miami? Or how about Jordan, Israel?
Still don't agree with them going mind.
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Post by blueeyedcptcook on Feb 19, 2013 11:36:56 GMT
All these clubs and all individuals should boycott UAE! Antisemitism is ugly, ignorant and sooo 600 A.D I think, no I wont say it, bite my tounge instead.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 22, 2013 8:44:40 GMT
Jewish Chronicle Swansea red-faced over Shechterâs Dubai ban By Marcus Dysch, February 21, 2013 Premier League club Swansea City has admitted it considered cancelling a training trip to Dubai after striker Itay Shechter was refused entry because of the countryâs ban on Israelis. Swansea said last Wednesdayâs trip had been âhastily arrangedâ and the state of the United Arab Emiratesâ diplomatic relations with Israel was only brought to the attention of club officials âat a late stageâ. Mr Shechter, 25, instead flew to Israel, where he trained with former club Hapoel Tel Aviv and visited his family. Swanseaâs decision to go ahead with the trip without one of their players was heavily criticised by the Board of Deputies and anti-racism campaign Kick It Out. Board chief executive Jon Benjamin initially said the clubâs actions were âdisgracefulâ. Speaking before the club explained its reasons for going ahead, Mr Benjamin said: âBy choosing to train in the UAE, Swansea City has tacitly accepted the discrimination against one of their players. This sends a terrible message at a time when racism and antisemitism are sadly real problems in world football.â The Board will now write to the Football Association and leading clubs to make them aware of the communityâs disappointment over the issue. Mr Shechterâs absence was the latest in a number of similar cases. In 2009, Bolton Wanderers midfielder Tamir Cohen was left in Lancashire while his team-mates trained in Dubai. Yossi Benayoun and Yaniv Katan were in the same position when West Ham held a training camp in the UAE two years earlier. Israel defender Tal Ben Haim has also previously been barred from entering Dubai, but he has now obtained British citizenship and used his new passport to enter the country on a Queens Park Rangers trip earlier this month. Kick It Out said that Mr Shechterâs absence was at odds with the organisationâs âfundamental anti-discrimination messageâ. It also contacted Swansea to complain. Swansea manager Michael Laudrup discussed the problem with Mr Shechter and agreed that he should spend the time visiting Israel for the first time in five months. Mr Laudrup added: âCancelling the trip was a possibility, but we had just made the arrangements and it was too late to change." www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/102694/swansea-red-faced-over-shechterâs-dubai-ban
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